Case 86: Amy Allwine

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The 31st of May 2016 was much like any other day. Until the monotony was broken up by a visit from the FBI. Although not an everyday occurrence, it was not completely out of the ordinary for the FBI to contact local police as a courtesy to let them know that they were investigating a crime in their area...
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Narration - Anonymous Host
Episode researched and written by Eileen Ormsby, author of ‘The Darkest Web - Drugs, Death and Destroyed Lives: The inside story of the internet’s evil twin’
Production, scoring - Mike Migas
Additional scoring - Andrew Joslyn
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[@heavymetalredneck7973]

Best crime podcast on the Internet! Keep up the good work.

[@sherrywebster1675]

Wow. That was an investigation and a half. Sadly it wasn't completed in time to save Amy's life. What a devious man. Thank you for the fantastic detailed research in all the cases you present.

[@jenford7078]

This program is so well done, heads above most other, the narrator keeps me mesmerized. I can't believe I live in the Minneapolis metro and never heard of this case. Creepy how a religious doctrine meant to make their sheep stay in the flock can turn some into wolves.

[@scratchking3205]

The doctrine didn't turn him in to a monster. He was always a monster. If he really believed the doctrine he wouldn't have done any of the things he did

[@PoetofHateSpeech]

Not really. They got so much wrong in regards to the technology and religion

[@arangojuanp]

Thank you, Casefile Team!

[@jkmjdm3629]

Amy comes across as such a kind and warm person. I wish I could've known her. She sounds sweet. I feel for her parents, siblings and son. :(

[@NotIfWhen]

I’m angry. They absolutely could have stopped it if they investigated the husband immediately they way it is ALWAYS done.

[@scratchking3205]

For what reason though? He did nothing to warrant investigating him.

[@emma75]

@@scratchking3205 Because husbands are always investigated first either as the most likely suspect or to eliminate him from the suspect list. I mean, come on, there's a pattern. Happened in my country again not 2 months ago !

[@thecatatemyhomework]

They did investigate him and there was nothing found.

[@daymeinvanblocken3407]

Great Podcast. Keep it up, thanks.

[@BrittleSun]

Why didn’t they suspect the husband from the get go?

[@romystumpy1197]

Exactly,it was my first thought,

[@RenoReborn]

Dude was an IT expert, his devices would have presented as totally clean during any initial investigation from the FBI, the Police had to do a deep dive, restoring fragmented data and sifting through all the backup data to actually uncover any evidence and the emails definitely did a good job of casting suspicion away from him.

[@SHurd-rc2go]

I have too many years with true crime. I thought it was the husband from the beginning. But what a twisted story! I feel so sorry for son, Joe, and the grandparents.

[@JudeNance]

He is a pathetic excuse for a human.

[@leeahblueyes]

Came across your channel about a month ago and I have been on a binge ever since! You go so in depth with these stories! Great job

[@lenafranklin7262]

You are beautiful ❇️

[@leeahblueyes]

@@lenafranklin7262 Thank you 😊☺️🤗

[@markeywestskies6503]

It's always the SO, right?

[@ilovesnoopy7018]

I suspected her husband. So sad. I’m sorry for her family.

[@marktrezise7312]

So sickening.

[@lenafranklin7262]

This. Nearly made me vomit. Nice one Steven..set up a creepy alibi while you let Joe see his mum on the floor. Just get a fricking divorce

[@iknitbecuzmurderisfrownedupon]

Imagine getting marriage counseling from *him*. "Elders" almost got me killed attempting to get away from my abusive then husband. Cuz thry dont know shit about marriage counseling.

[@heavymetalredneck7973]

Women are better off to just arm themselves in case they have to deal with some psycho, just because women are usually physically weaker it doesn't mean they can't get an equalizer, click click bang! No more psycho 😊

[@SquirtleSquady]

I think the husband was suspect when he kept saying she committed suicide when there had been past threats made against her, a truthful person would keep the idea of it being a murder an open possibility

[@NotIfWhen]

Who would make it so complicated? Not nearly as bright as he thought he was. Tracks everywhere!!

[@susiefoxy8130]

Soon as they said the husband was a pastor, i knew he was guilty

[@malovela]

I'm afraid I feel the same way.

[@user-gt8uf3nd9i]

Sadly , I feel the same way poor Amy seems to be a genuine loving kind Christian lady her husband was a none practising Christian very sad .thou shall not commit adultery thou shall not commit murder didn't seem to faze him 😢

[@MR-pv7qg]

Impeccable podcast!

[@user-gt8uf3nd9i]

Poor woman , horrific story 😢

[@julieblackstock8650]

Goodness me!! What a tangled web.

[@zenfan1098]

Amy was my sister's friend with dog training, it is a devastating murder 2😣😣😣

[@SugarFreeBoi]

Sympathy from a fellow Minnesotan

[@amy0077]

💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@user-gt8uf3nd9i]

I am so sorry, Amy seemed like she was a lovely lady Steven not so much a none practing Christian unlike Amy 😢

[@ausplus]

I even enjoy the ads on this channel

[@yukiefromoz2573]

Interesting case. I had a feeling it was to do with the husband's infidelity..

[@dr.lorismith445]

Yukie From Oz, isn’t it always?

[@johnirish2969]

No it had to do with religions blinding spell of ignorance over people. Someone cheats they make a mistake they either move on or reconcile in a logical world, they dont order a hit over the dark web and murder their wife when it doesn't go through

[@charlenemonique1]

I figured that it was most likely her husband. She sounds like she was truly a kind and loving spirit too .. so sad 💔

[@KathleenCalhoun-em6ys]

This was one case that the police let slip through the cracks. Always, they suspect the spouse as the most likely, but maybe due to the husband's position in his religion and the whole family's involvement with it, they let down their guard this time. When it was said that their church allows no divorce under any circumstances, that's when I suspected the husband as being behind it.

[@KaitlinLuksa]

How horrible that he let his son find his mother's body. Nothing good in that man at all.

[@rkh7904]

What a depraved character Amy was married too.

[@wajtopaz4073]

So sad, she didn't see what slept beside her. What a disgusting man to let his son find his mother dead. He has no love in his heart. This is sickening.

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

It's often the most innocent, devoted church goers who are the most evil

[@garethcooley1318]

Spoiler alert much?

[@thecatatemyhomework]

​@@garethcooley1318don't you know the first rule of a crime podcast is not to read the comments? Comments are to comment on the story. Why would you read the comments first.

[@cannedsquasher5923]

​@@thecatatemyhomeworkon my phone it shows one comment as I loaded the video and saw "let his son find" before I registered I was going to be spoiled. Which basically already told me who was at fault.

[@user-gt8uf3nd9i]

Yeah look dont spoil it for others please 😢

[@JD-qd5zp]

This murder should have been prevented. I knew it was the husband within 10 minutes of the start of this podcast.

[@scratchking3205]

For what reasons did you suspect the husband? Until Amy died I had zero suspicion about him

[@thecatatemyhomework]

Suspecting someone and having concrete evidence to arrest a person are two different things

[@Aryasvitkona]

​@@scratchking32052 major things. 1) Husband is always the prime suspect 2) The claims of infidelity sounds like insecure hubby's behaviour. Less severely, the claim of inheriting her business...

[@pillettadoinswartsh4974]

The man was a pastor who fixed it so that his young son would be the one to find his Mommy dead on the floor. He should have gotten the death penalty for that alone.

[@aliliving7774]

Honestly. When they explained the darkweb thing to the couple, i wa thinking "totally the husband". How didnt the FBI check the family's digiral footprints?

[@scratchking3205]

Maybe he accessed it from a different computer not in the home

[@thecatatemyhomework]

​@@scratchking3205exactly. He was too computer savvy to leave a trail.

[@iknitbecuzmurderisfrownedupon]

They went to my church.

[@angelabordack]

This is what extreme religion does to you. I don’t disagree with people being religious but don’t go the extreme route. Sad case.

[@HandOfThemis]

This goes for extremes of any sort of ideology, not just pertaining to religious sects.

[@belladonna5904]

This was just a sociopath who infiltrated religion to hide his true nature. He was never religious. This is a story about deceit...in all facets of life

[@scratchking3205]

There has nothing to do with Religion. This is a criminal trying to manipulate people in to feeling sorry for him. You were manipulated.....you took the hook

[@susiefoxy8130]

So many god fearing men pull this shit...glad my husband is not religious!

[@iknitbecuzmurderisfrownedupon]

And it's full of general type wife abusers, so i no longer attend.

[@jessicawalton3497]

Did he really think God would prefer murder over a divorce? Pretty sure God's okay with divorce.

[@Cheka__]

It's always the husband.

[@fryarsandy2200]

Apart from when it's the wife 😂

[@Cheka__]

@@fryarsandy2200 Touché, my friend.

[@susanpitkin4022]

I really shouldn't read the comments first 😣🙄

[@ericamartiin]

Susan Pitkin me either just ruined the whole podcast for me trying to get just a little more info on what it was about.

[@johnirish2969]

No shit, how about learning some patience and actually listening to the entire episode. Then the both of you would have your problem solved. Casefile is always thorough in their account of each case.

[@susanpitkin4022]

Well okay then 😏

[@Mel-jo6bg]

@@johnirish2969 somebody needs to get laid 😉

[@scottbrown6248]

Haha, you said it, man.

[@dougstyles5091]

Get that apple ad off my screen. I'm a Droid man.

[@IGotTheFlag]

Intresting case, but the real question is... what is ninja warrior class?

[@thecatatemyhomework]

Probably some type of karate.

[@skitch1518]

ads end at 44:35

[@carolinebrennan3864]

Fry steven

[@wookiedog]

Ah yep, as soon as religion came into it. Curtains.

[@Raventooth]

Vallow/Daybell

[@plusminus5483]

Totally!

[@scratchking3205]

Nothing to do with Religion. The man is a murderer and a manipulator. See how easy you were manipulated. You think what the criminal wants you to think

[@wookiedog]

Still, they always seem to end up as sex pests

[@donnablack6280]

So much tech in the house to keep clean, and using google for anything, he'd have left less of a trail asking a stranger at a bar to do it.

[@thomasdoubting]

When religious people are caught mourning, there religuis club should loos there no-tax-status.

[@xWILZTAx]

Crazy God botherers at it again

[@scratchking3205]

This has nothing to donwith Religion. The husband a criminal is trying to justify his actions. He is a manipulator...I see he manipulated your mind.

[@marycaine8874]

Makes a change from the usual atheists.

[@JudeNance]

I would have gotten a German Shepherd for protection.

[@thecatatemyhomework]

The German Shepherd would have lived with the husband.

[@irocksixx]

OK I have no idea what happened now....

[@johnirish2969]

Another reigious nutjob, who tried to order hit on wife, gets scammed and carries out a poorly executed murder on his wife trying to make it look like she committed suicide.

[@86crud]

He turned 3 atheists lololol!

[@tarajh]

I call bullshit!

[@tebsa76]

He tells us what Amy does for a passion and a living... then we hear the username of the person requesting the hit... No shit Sherlock!

[@thecatatemyhomework]

There were multiple people that were involved in the dog business that she had association with.

[@yellowheart9255]

Me too lea 😁

[@KimPufferCrossley]

if all you do is download tour to get access , then, it stands to reason the authorities can do the same. ppl are gullible

[@veganandlovingit]

Oh I see Amy Allwine not Winehouse, lol

[@SH-to8sh]

omfg lol

[@charlieangkor8649]

If someone ordered a hit on the hitman himself (i. e. a suicide), would the hitman execute it? And if not, why another person dying is OK but the hitman dying is not OK? Does he think his life has higher value? Isn't it a little bit selfish?

[@thedisabledwelshman9266]

must have been a bloody big shed lol.

[@PoetofHateSpeech]

Hate sites 😂😂

[@PoetofHateSpeech]

Tor gets you on the dark Web lol what? Shit I better remove it. It's not for anything like a privacy lol Tails is a Linux security/privacy operating system. It doesn't just "hide" Tor

[@brookbaldock2598]

Too many ads, greedy for a small channel, imagine what it'll be like once it's big.

[@thecatatemyhomework]

It's small because of all the ads. If I didn't have KZbin premium I would not be listening to this podcast no matter how great it is.

[@iknitbecuzmurderisfrownedupon]

It's not actually fundamentalist. Irs primitive christian.

[@anthonychristian4807]

If it was the husband then you can't blame him as the amount of excess weight she'd gained probably pushed him over the edge