Case Closed JFK 1/2

[@jefftappan381]

My only question is this: if Oswald was the " lone gunman " , then why would keeping all of the documentation hidden a matter of national security?

[@jefftappan381]

55 years? If our national security agencies are as good at ferreting out information as they would like us to believe, why has it taken this long? I've worked for the government. They're not that efficient.

[@jefftappan381]

Also, Hoover had written a note that Oswald was the gunman, less than 24 hours after the assassination.

[@jefftappan381]

Every question answered raises at least two more.

[@jefftappan381]

For starters, the rifle that Oswald used was known as the ' humanitarian killer ' , because there was no record of its ever actually been involved in a killing. Every question answered brings up 2 more questions.

[@fk8118]

Jeff Tappan yes, we all have that question: the only possible answer is that there were many misdeeds by agents and Intel and persons like J Edgar Hoover would be "exposed."

[@Steve-nm9qy]

This murder is only a mystery to those who wont acknowledge the facts.

[@geoffreyjohnstone5465]

Depends on the realistic term of "facts". If evidence doesnt have full, unbroken chains of custody that can be identified by everyone within that chain then it is not evidence. I am amazed how 7 men that were not even in Dallas that day can better judge what happened than the very witnesses who were there.

[@eddrane4064]

Well said!

[@Ckom-Tunes]

@@geoffreyjohnstone5465 Because witness testimony in inherently unreliable. For witness recollections to be considered reliable it is often necessary to have some objective corroboration (like photos of the assassin holding the murder weapons.) I’ll provide an example of how bad witness testimony can be: Do you recall the sensation and controversy regarding the internet meme; ‘What colour is this dress?’ Millions of people looked at the dress and fully half could not cite the correct colours. There were also many variations on the colours seen. Now, it may have been lighting, perspective, or quality of the image but it is clear that different people see different things based on a number of different factors. Many witnesses are simply wrong! There are also memes that relate to hearing, smell and timing that all demonstrate human diversity in determining objective fact. With regard to the seven men…really? It’s a staple of the system of justice we tend to believe in. Also, there weren’t ‘seven men’ there were thousands of men and women who investigated, analyzed, catalogued and discussed every single aspect of the event. The seven men were representing all that went into determining what happened.

[@geoffreyjohnstone5465]

@@Ckom-Tunes No...there were 7 men that decided the reliability of those witnesses. When 2 witnesses stated they saw Jack Ruby at Parkland they said they were mistaken. One knew Ruby very well (Kantor) and another heard someone say, how you doing Jack (Tice). How can 7 men that were not there say these 2 witnesses were mistaken?

[@Ckom-Tunes]

@@geoffreyjohnstone5465 It’s entirely possible (well it’s probable) that the Warren Commission got some facts inadvertently wrong. But, your example is a long way from manipulation of fact to change the outcome! That was the job of the Warren Commission-not to accept rumour, speculation, hearsay or hucksters trying to make a name for themselves as fact! Do you accept Beverly Oliver‘a witness statement? Which one? She’s a great example of a witness who should have been excluded from ever giving testimony! Also, there are those who are bitter because they didn’t get a chance to testify. So, automatically, their stories become sensational! It’s human nature. That’s why we have juries. Not trial by accusation. A mob can be an ugly thing. If you were accused of something I’d bet (unless you were mentally ill) you’d choose either a trial by judge and jury or even by judge alone. Moreover, defence lawyers often argue that a trial should be taken out of the community where it happened in order to get a less biased trial. It’s a fundamental legal principle that community opinion (one way or the other) should not effect the determination of guilt or innocence! Further, you wouldn’t want witnesses to simply get up on the stand and start hurling accusations at you. You (or your lawyer) would demand that witnesses be vetted, that irrelevant information (like your example) be excluded and that objective corroboration be demonstrated. If you argue that you prefer to have all the witnesses line up, give their testimony and that you be convicted or acquitted on that evidence you’re either nuts or you’re lying. My guess is you haven’t thought this theory through very well.

[@TheTEAMBUTLER]

Who else sleeps to this ☺️

[@ryans756]

Me. Haha. Just about to take it to bed with me :)

[@lunarmodule6419]

Conclusion: Believe every lies we told you. It's all true! The lone commie mad man thesis is real. (Nope!)

[@ryans756]

@@lunarmodule6419 Just saying "nope" isn't an argument. You need to lay down facts and evidence like the Warren Commission did.

[@lunarmodule6419]

@@ryans756 Nahhhh that will do for now :-)

[@ryans756]

@@lunarmodule6419 Alright cool :)

[@Ghostmanriding]

Wildwood Wanderen Thanks for up loading this. I appreciate it.

[@michaelbarnhart2593]

If Richard Pavlick had been successful, we would have never known of Oswald. That's how "random" destiny can be.

[@averyswarts]

if who did what?

[@jonparrie8380]

A wife beater, a fantasist, a minimum pay worker, a drifter: would a high powered government conspiracy to assassinate the chief executive really choose such a man to pull the trigger? Three bullets, one rifle, one location and one assassin named Oswald.

[@walman16]

Couldn’t have said it better.

[@wildflowerred6323]

Not to mention one who scored below average on military aptitude tests, incapable of understanding how a radio works (unable to fix his own), with two court martial convictions, who was stupid enough to be seen by the leader of the anti-Castro group he was trying to infiltrate while openly handing out Fair Play for Cuba leaflets (leading to his being arrested in a street brawl with the anti-Castro guys who saw him passing out the leaflets-not a guy to be trusted with an assassination plot), and failing in a previous attempt to assassinate General Walker. Not a bright bulb and definitely not to be trusted to pull off such an important assassination. This would be a great guy to fail and expose a complicated plot. Oswald succeeded because the motorcade conveniently passed by the building where he worked at a time when he was looking for a big figure to assassinate. All he had to do was take his rifle to work. He didn’t even have an escape plan. Had the highest ranking official on that motorcade been VP Johnson, Senator Yarborough, or Governor Connolly, he would have shot any of them instead. He shot Kennedy because he was President, not because he wanted to kill Kennedy specifically (according to Marina and Michael and Ruth Paine, he liked Kennedy for what he perceived as leniency toward the USSR).

[@jonparrie8380]

Absolutely. Warren said if this was a simple nondescript murder case it would be open and shut in three days. In fact it was. But the inconsequential Oswald, according to the conspiracy junkies, could not have killed a figure so consequential as Kennedy. Hence 'Who Shot JFK' was born.

[@jonparrie8380]

Absolutely. Warren said if this was a simple nondescript murder case it would be open and shut in three days. In fact it was. But the inconsequential Oswald, according to the conspiracy junkies, could not have killed a figure so consequential as Kennedy. Hence 'Who Shot JFK' was born.

[@JMC786]

I’ve been saying that for 50 years but these conspiracy morons won’t realize what really happened. It wasn’t that complicated

[@timinla64]

One only has to stand in Dealey Plaza to be skeptical of any multiple shooter theories, in my view. It looked so spacious in all the old grainy videos, but is actually quite intimate in person. I got the feeling that nobody could have pulled it off without someone noticing.

[@davidarbuckle7236]

They did notice. Nearly 70 % of the witnesses heard the shots (and most said they were in quick succession which eliminates one shooter) Over a dozen said they saw smoke. A half dozen or more said they smelled Gun Powder, A few even stated they were asked to walk back or risk being shot at the fence while being shown bogus Secret Service I.D.s. Many saw the blood and bone splatter on the back of the Limo and the front of the Secret Service Limo. Witnesses saw plenty. From Parkland to Bethesda and everywhere in between.

[@Number4lead]

For sure. Things look so different on film and TV. I didn't realize how much the road sloped toward the triple underpass until I visited the site and stood on the top of it and looked back up toward the TSBD.

[@j.dragon651]

There were people who noticed. Some of them were sitting directly under the 6th floor window where the shots came from. They weren't the only ones.

[@davidarbuckle7236]

@@j.dragon651 There were lots of people who noticed. Their Testimony was suppressed by not being called to the Warren Commission, or they were threatened and or killed. 7 witnesses saw multiple people on the 6th-floor minutes before the shooting. Three of them stated that they saw a 2nd man with a gun. A dozen witnesses reported seeing smoke coming from the grassy knoll. Several saw a flash of light. A half dozen smelled gunpowder. That is the easy stuff. Once you start digging into the particulars, you learn that the normal military presence that was present in processions like this with a POTUS driving in a convertible along with other dignitaries was missing. There were only 30 Secret Service agents for the Dallas Parade. The night before half of them were getting drunk at a place called "The Cellar". Several of them lost their I.D.s. During the parade, the Press Truck that rode in the front of the Presidential parades was switched from its normal position in the front to the rear. Why would they do that? Could it be that someone knew that frontal pictures on Dealey Plaza would have revealed the very same thing that the Zapruder film revealed? And it would make it more difficult to sell the big lie.

[@retiredby3570]

And that's the most important thing right, your feeling😂😂😂

[@allenatkins2263]

With conspiracy buffs, there is always more "what about?".

[@mikelldaley9078]

FYI LHO TESTED NEGATIVE FOR POWDER BURNS. AND YOUR WHAT ABOUT ? SCHEESH

[@allenatkins2263]

@@mikelldaley9078 Ah, Buff Forensic Lab has spoken. The "paraffin" test, as given to Oswald at the time, was considered to be unreliable. FYI his hands did test positive for gun powder residue his cheek did not. It was most often used as a form of coercion to elicit a confession from a suspect, not as anything that would be needed in court. FYI the test is for residue, not powder burns.

[@frogger1952]

It's like a religion with them. They will ignore actual and create new evidence to fit their bizarre theories.

[@timothywilliams1359]

@@mikelldaley9078 Rifles do not typically leave powder burns.

[@NoNameNo.5]

Especially with bolt action rifles without pistol grip

[@southerntiger3107]

Thank you for uploading this audiobook!

[@fk8118]

Really appreciate this book on video w/o commercial interruption

[@WrathofArminius]

There’s nothing worse than listening and falling asleep then a loud commercial comes on. With a 10 hour video they could’ve thrown 100 commercials in.

[@JardineFlower]

@@WrathofArminius omg, exactly! I listen to audio books to fall asleep!

[@WrathofArminius]

@@JardineFlower it’s the only way anymore. Sometimes I dream that I’m talking to a guy about the stuff that is being said and I wake up like, oh… that’s why he wouldn’t let me get a word in.

[@MrOuija-rr8kq]

You should purchase more audiobooks then. No commercials and you’re supporting the author.

[@mauiswift6391]

You have to pay for a KZbin membership for that

[@gregfox5453]

Having read and seen all things conspiracy, this book should be heard, if only for balance, or even to persuade. I have to admit its thoroughly researched, and absorbing.

[@TT-hl5ql]

😂

[@TT-hl5ql]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pl69kHWjYp5mjLs Maybe that will give you a clue.

[@jamespuckett5547]

@@TT-hl5ql I've seen it before. There is a reason they never mention frame 312. That's where his head goes forward first. So much for your familiarity with the facts.

[@Beatgeneration2010]

Balance? He used the Warren commission as his basis in fact? Its a fairy story! Balanced my eye!!!!

[@gregfox5453]

Like I said read all things conspiracy, one thing for sure is, Oswald was a complete loser a wannabe, and yes Posner uses WC, but only 28%, if you read whole book you would see that.

[@stevenscott6598]

I went to the museum in the book depository building and stood right where Oswald was, and the vantage point was perfect for a sniper. Not a difficult shot at all.

[@ryanwilliams6206]

Ok. Still offers no proof oswald did it

[@henochparks]

Hahaha the alleged rifle Oswald was supposed to use didn't work well enough to hit a moving target, not to mention the fact the scope didn't work at all .

[@ryanwilliams6206]

@@henochparks there was a bare minimum of 5 shots fired. These lone nut theorists believe someone courier 5 shots in less than 7 seconds?

[@ryanwilliams6206]

Could fire 5 shots I meant

[@paystarbuzzy]

Steven Scott not with any of the rifles on the attached list would it be difficult but Lee Harvey Oddball, the epic stooge, did not have access to a real rifle; but the real shooters did. Frangible rounds from an M-1 are what turned POTUS #35's brain into a gushing fountain of raspberry jam. Oswald was sucking on chicken bones when the shots flew. And he damn sure was not at the Tippit scene according to the best witness in the entire case, Mrs. Aquila Clemmons. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assault_rifles

[@calwianka]

Nosenko's treatment by the US Government was an utter disgrace. Poor Nosenko. Rest in Peace.

[@Baldgol4]

No doubt in my mind. Why else would Oswald flee from work, pick up a hand gun, kill and police officer and hide in the theater if he was innocent?

[@1828tolstoy]

He didn't kill the cop either.Which Oswald are we talking about the one that went out the front door or the rear door of the theatpr.

[@Huffy1001]

Maybe Oswald knew somethin’ he did say “that’s not what I’VE been charged with..”

[@Huffy1001]

@Tim Hands He could’ve thrown the automatic pistol away, thinkin’ investigatively you wouldn’t carry around a weapon you just killed someone with and carryin’ a revolver would just show how planned/thoughtout and deprived Oswald may’ve been👍

[@thelakeman5207]

@@Huffy1001 If our government agencies have killed JFK, no one will EVER find out. All evidence has been destroyed and the people that know are either dead or will never talk. Who ever shot JFK will never be proven.

[@paulspears715]

you can't prove he killed a police officer, you can't prove he killed JFK

[@j.dragon651]

I gave this book to a skeptic friend of mine to rebut him. He wouldn't ever open it saying it was part of the conspiracy lol.

[@julians9070]

Perhaps one day your skeptic friend may want to read the book and no longer rely on the mainstrean media for information.

[@j.dragon651]

@@julians9070 That was around ten years ago, no hope I am sorry to report.

[@julians9070]

@@j.dragon651 Thank you for you quick reply. It's a pit that your answer is "no hope". Perhaps yyou might cross paths with other who are interested in reading the book or listening as I would like to the audiobook, if I cannot find a cop in my local libraries. ou don't need to be discouraged from people who have the "I am not intterested" and "I don't care " attitude.

[@j.dragon651]

@@julians9070 I watched it all unfold when I was a kid. I read just about every book written about it up until around 1985-90. In my opinion, based on the evidence I have read and seen, Oswald acted alone and shot the president. I don't waste my time reading any more nonsense and I don't really care what peoples opinions are on it anymore. I am not about to convince anyone so why bother. I don't need anymore drama in my life than I have now.

[@DaveSCameron]

What a shame, I don't swallow Lone Nut nonsense but there's always something to learn from every book 📚👋💙😊

[@harlhequim]

This argument ends proportionally as you get into the psychological profile of Oswald.

[@peterfraser9070]

Yes, the psychological profile of the disturbed Oswald does put things into perspective alright.

[@isaespinosa81]

Cheers from argentina... He was a looser Big time and also a Libra

[@harlhequim]

@@isaespinosa81 asi es. Se entiende que el asesinato de Kennedy fue tan trascendental que cuesta pensar que un idiota de su calibre lo haya hecho. Peeo quedan las innumerables evidencias durante toda su vida de un reverendo mequetrefe . Delirios de grandeza con fervor idiologico que decantava en violencia cin cada fracaso personal.

[@65TossTrap]

If Lee had been institutionalized as recommended by the psychiatrist in NYC we would have never known his name.

[@kevinowensjr6671]

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[@johndeagle4389]

Oswald would have assassinated his psychiatrist.

[@cdorman11]

Or if he'd received Russian citizenship. Or if he'd made it to Cuba. Or if the presidential route hadn't been scheduled to pass his place of employment.

[@davidarbuckle7236]

Except he wasn't crazy. He wasn't an Egotistical maniac as the Apologists have described. He was working in the Intelligence Community. He was a paid informant and so was Ruby. Marines in 1962 do not defect to Russia, and marry the daughter of a Russin Intelligence officer and then just come back to the States no questions asked. His friends were all CIA. George DeMarchildt, Ruth Paine. They were his handlers. Someone had to buy the $3000,00 dollars worth of cameras that he had in Ruth Paine's' garage next to his $12.99-cent rifle. These were spooks. through and through. Alan Dulles had to be on the Commission to keep that from coming out.

[@susannamarker2582]

True, 65TossTrap, but the assassination would still have taken place.

[@edro3838]

So Oswald got a job at the TSBD in Oct. Knew the motorcade would pass by the TSBD in Nov. Took a rifle in to work. Made a shooters nest on the 6th floor. Got set up for the shots (at just the right time) while on work duty. Took 3 shots and killed JFK. Casually walked out of TSBD, got on a bus, then decided to get off, flagged down a cab, went to boarding house, got a pistol and a jacket, walked up the street, shot a cop, went to a movie? That’s a hell of a getaway plan for someone who masterminded the assignation of the most powerful man in the world.

[@81overon]

Don't forget that a night club owner, acting on his own, shot LHO in the police station. Move along. Nothing to see here.

[@calwianka]

What's the big deal? JFK took crazy risks-as did Oswald. They were made for each other given the risky habits that they had.

[@jefftomasello3258]

That's exactly how it happened. All the facts prove it! Life is stranger then fiction

[@ryans756]

Funny thing is, Edro, you just about summed up the entire truth of what happened that day, despite your misguided incredulity. My answer to your question is YES. THAT IS HOW IT WENT DOWN :)

[@geoffreyjohnstone5465]

@@ryans756 Except Ruth Paine got Oswald the job at the TSBD. He did not make the shooters nest on the 6th floor as that was made by a floor laying crew that was working up on that floor. As for the rest of what Edro said, that is merely what we are told happened. The only thing we know for sure is that Oswald said he was a patsy, that he said he didnt shoot anybody and that he wanted legal represenatation. Anything else is what we are told he said by a corrupt Dallas PD and FBI that were lead by DA Henry Wade and J Edgar Hoover.

[@JfK--OBJECTivE]

Case Closed is quite a good read, if you like fiction. Amazing how much verified evidence he leaves out so it suits his narrative!

[@alwagner9722]

*EXACTLY.*

[@cravinbob]

You are almost the top idiot in comments here. "Verified evidence"? All you theorists cannot agree on what conspiracy to go with. No evidence to back up anything any of you have conjured up after 60 years. It was Oswald's rifle and that right there is plenty then add fired from where he worked and he fled the scene-the only one to leave work. Oswald in less than a year has two murders and 3 attempted murders. It was an easy shot at JFK and bullets fired from his rifle excluding all other rifles in the world. Warren Commission, FBI , CIA etc had no jurisdiction in Dallas. Dallas PD had it pretty much wrapped up by midnight. Saying "I'm a patsy" means nothing and it was his answer to a question Oswald was asked, what was the question dummy? You are all soooo stupid, how in the hell can you get through life without falling off ckliffs or choking on chicken bones??

[@doubanjiang]

you're a buffoon

[@jetcat132]

And yet it’s infinitesimal compared to what verified evidence the CT authors and their cult leave out so it suits their narrative!

[@danieleyre8913]

Ahahahahah ah no other way around. This book covers all the bases while the conspiracy drivel leaves out the facts.

[@BrisLS1]

At what minute of this, is the failure of the sharp-shooters to reproduce the 2/3 hits at a moving target explained away? I'll come back and listen to that.

[@johncooper7663]

Videos on my channel playlist disprove your claim. People physically recreated the shots

[@jefftomasello3258]

Easy shot for someone with training like Oswald had.

[@jrbonner5858]

shots been made over and over again quit being obtuse

[@j.dragon651]

The FBI recreated the shots also.

[@peterfraser9070]

"the failure of the sharp-shooters to reproduce the 2/3 hits at a moving target: Will you just believe anything? A good marksman cannot hit a close target which is moving directly and slowly away? The angle (not speed, although it was slow) of the limo moving away made it pretty much a stationary target. The irony is that you probably think a grassy knoll shooter did hit a target that was moving from left to right; a much harder shot. lol.

[@mootamoonta261]

2021 they still won't release the file's.

[@Dan.50]

That says it all.

[@Daash27]

If Oswald could shoot at General Walker as revealed by Marina because of his politics, I have no doubt he was capable of shooting at a bigger personality than General Walker, Kennedy without coercion or grand conspiracy

[@81overon]

There is no solid evidence that LHO made an attempt on Gen Walker.

[@9Ballr]

@@81overon The evidence is not conclusive, but it is certainly suggestive that Oswald did it.

[@jerrymarshall2095]

Well reseached im surprised the author didnt document every loaf LHO pinched off

[@russellgay5337]

This is an excellent book.

[@stutzbearcat5624]

Posner is a cia tool.

[@russellgay5337]

@@stutzbearcat5624 You offer no substance to your remark.

[@stutzbearcat5624]

@@russellgay5337 Yeah it's a youtube post. I have studied Kennedy assassinations (and cia excesses and 'neutralizing') since the mid 70s. Have read more 100 books on the subject. More than once. Been to the National Archives - actually held the mannlicher-carcano rifle - have formed actual relationships with some of the players. And this Posner guy shows up whenever the cia has some limited hangout they want to drop or some shit they want to cover. The best book right now on the Kennedy assassination is 'JFK and the Unspeakable' by the tireless impeccable researcher James Douglass - do yourself a favor - read just the 1st two chapters for starters.

[@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr]

@@stutzbearcat5624 Stop falling for fake conspiracy theories so easily. I'm sure you also believe conspiracy for mlk jr, flat earth, for rfk shooting, for 911 for moon landing and for Sandy Hook. None of those conspiracy theories pan out though, I feel sorry for you that you are so willing to believe nonsense and so unwilling to look at the legitimate sources without letting your confirmation bias continue to taint your point of view. Please answer this question, do you believe in those other conspiracy theories as well, or is this the only conspiracy theory you believe in?

[@CoolhandLukeSkywalkr]

Yes, one of the best books about Lee Harvey Oswald and JFK that exists.

[@christophermanley3602]

04:50:28 - When Paine tried to have a debate with Oswald, he found it was not possible. "He was quite dogmatic," he recalled, "He thought he knew the truth, and therefore, I was just spouting the line that was fed to me by the power structure." That night at dinner, Oswald closed off any discussion with the Paines once they challenged his ideas.

[@christophermanley3602]

Sounds like this comment section, doesn't it?

[@timmckeown1313]

He’d fit right in with today’s MAGAts.

[@marksmale827]

This is all fine if you ignore a raft of independent evidence that points elsewhere. And the conclusions of the second official inquiry in 1977 that it is highly likely that there was more than one assassin and therefore, that there was a conspiracy of some kind. The KGB conducted their own investigation of the assassination (fearing that Russia would be blamed, and the event used as an excuse to start a war with them), released decades later, and concluded that the CIA, using the Mafia, were responsible, a widely held view. You can filll many pages with independent evidence which points elsewhere.

[@jerrymarshall2095]

I wouldnt put much weight in a KGB investigation;I'd assume that the ussr could use it for propaganda purposes.

[@marksmale827]

@@jerrymarshall2095 Neither would I, if it didn't essentially agree with the conclusions of so many other people around the world. All I know is that are dozens of pieces of independent evidence which refute the findings of the orginal official investigation, mostly by ordinary people with no axe to grind.

[@charlenegarrigan1393]

Mark Smale right on excellent point it was not as if you were suggesting well the kgb says so there you have it!! No you were just showing that many many independent studies which most of these studies had no skin in the game so to speak, so the reports together become another piece of the puzzle. Such as the assassination attempt that was foiled in Miami a month or so before the Dallas trip. (I’m not certain of the exact timing of the Miami episode except it was prior to Dallas n not that long before the successful assassination) By the way not claiming to be an authority on this topic but have read much over the years n am always willing n eager to hear anyone’s point of view without wearing a white wig n judging. Hope you all are healthy as well as your loved ones!!!

[@marksmale827]

@@charlenegarrigan1393 Thank you. How much happier we would be if it were a open-and-shut case of a lone nutter. At the time of the assassination, Lee Oswald was having an affair with a medical researcher in New Orleans. She has, much later, spoken out and written a book (doesn't everybody?), and claims that Lee told her thathe was a CIA asset, a claim for which there is other independent evidence. Tellingly, most of the members of the orginal inquiry (Warren Commission) had serious doubts about its conclusion that Oswald was responsible, and solely responsible. For me, the simplest fact that no-one, not even expert marksmen, has ever been able to replicate that many shots in that space of time from that make and model of firearm rules out - even in the absence of any other evidence - the lone gunman conclusion of the Warren Commisssion, and leaves open several other possibilities: (1) Lee Oswald with another firearm than the one he is supposed to have used (2) Someone else with a different firearm (3) Lee Oswald and someone else (4) Two other people (not including Lee Oswald) I think 4 is the most likely by far.

[@Bamruff62]

Mark Smale, ... The House Select Committee conducted another investigation in to the Kennedy Assassination because of all the conspiracy books and literature that came out a few years after the assassination; most of which was pure hype and conjecture. Very little, if any, of the conspiracy literature showed any new evidence. What the conspiracy literature manage to do was sow seeds of paranoia and suspicion among the American public. But no hard evidence ever came forward to overturn the Warren Commission's theory that Oswald acted alone. ...HSCA was under public pressure to find something sinister and conspiratorial, and thus threw in the second gunman on the grassy knoll to appease the growing suspicion the American public had towards the Warren Commission and to give some semblance of transparency. .. HSCA did not have any physical evidence of gunshots being fired from grassy knoll. No cartridge was ever found. HSCA was totally silent on I.D. of the assassin. They gave no description of the Assassin. HSCA gave no explanation of the trajectory of the bullet and where it went. ... HSCA concluded if an assassin fired from grassy knoll he not only missed the occupants in the car, he missed the whole car. ... The National Academy of Science lambasted the HSCA finding positing there was a second gunman on grassy knoll. ... The HSCA did not absolve Oswald from the assassination. It agree with WC that Oswald fired 3 shots and ONLY 3 shots at Kennedy's motorcade with 2 bullets striking the President and mortally wounding him. We're back with Warren Commission.

[@thebiggerman6975]

People cannot get over the fact that such a insignificant person and a cheap rifle could bring down the president of the United States, even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while, Oswald did it, get over it

[@jerseymusicman3332]

In order to make a real decision one must listen to both sides. Well... I have. I have no idea what happened.

[@larrysunde8878]

Join the club

[@Daash27]

LHO did it.

[@pinehawk9600]

@@Daash27 but was he groomed?

[@pinehawk9600]

Same.. The more I learn the less i know whats true

[@ryans756]

I've listened to both sides thoroughly and with an open mind, and Oswald was clearly the lone shooter. The only - ONLY - question is whether or not he planned and executed the assassination alone or with help. There's no need for help. He took a gun to the top of his workplace and shot his target, then failed trying to flee. There's absolutely not one single shred of evidence to suggest there were other shooters or anyone working with Oswald. It's possible but there's zero evidence for it! Only speculation. You're welcome :)

[@wallersmith1921]

Funny how the conspiracy plots keep changing but the Warren commission report survives the test of time

[@christophermanley3602]

After sixty years you would think they would come to a consensus.

[@uploadJ]

At one point, in interviews, its interesting to hear Gerald say that LHO as the gunman here in this case, there could have been other plots brewing at the time that obviously never went anywhere after Nov. 22nd ... so one can consider that aspect too.

[@lynngregory393]

Vincent Buglioso’s book was more interesting.

[@Alexander-tj2dn]

Bugliosi

[@jimjohnston526]

Don’t ever try to reason with a conspiracy theorist. Conspiracies and stories are their facts.

[@billolsen4360]

Yup, I gave up trying to reason with my friends in Nevada about Area 51. When they bring it up now, I just repeat that Bigfoot is still there and they release him when people get too close to the fence, so they better watch out!

[@fobrien1]

yup conspiracy theories are not proven fact , that is for sure , because if they were they would be called fact not theory . so you dont like theory ? ok how are you on facts then ?. or do you avoid those also ? .

[@fobrien1]

@@billolsen4360 exactly what has area 51 got to do with jfks assassination ? . or is that your go to MET ME OUT OF JAIL CARD ? . i mean when you cant deal with proven jfk facts you pull out your OH YOU PROBABLY BELIEVE THERE ARE LITTLE GREEN MEN IN AREA 51 card lol . you are both free to attack or indeed ignore me now lol .

[@jimjohnston526]

@@fobrien1 👈 loves tinfoil.

[@fobrien1]

"loves tinfoil."@@jimjohnston526 it would have served you better just to ignore me lol , now you made yourself look like an even bigger idiot lol . and the best bit was it was completely self inflicted . ha ha . the only thing better than making a lone nut advocate look like a horses rear end is seeing them do that all by them selves lol .

[@Uncle_Neil]

Reading through the history of this case is a worthwhile thing. Once you plow through the books (I did, for ten years) and reach further into the case to the source documents (did that as well) here is where you will end up: 1) Oswald did the crime. He wanted to be "somebody." His wife Marina was a fan of JFK and Oswald was jealous. He did many things that drew attention to himself. 2) Both the FBI and the CIA knew of Oswald, the CIA tried to draw him out and keep an eye on him as a counterintelligence activity. 3) Both the FBI and the CIA rated Oswald as of no particular interest as an asset or possible asset. 4) Oswald saw himself as a fighter against fascism, he was pro-communist as near as anyone can discern. His attempts to "join" the espionage world failed. 5) After JFK was dead the depth of the failure by the agencies involved (FBI, CIA) had to be covered over up. Remember this is 1963-64, the depth of the Cold War. 6) The number of groups, agencies, syndicates who wanted to take revenge of JFK is staggering. Oswald brushed shoulders with several. 7) Yes, there are still documents being held, what is left is largely concerned with the CIA's relationship with Oswald. 8) After all these years it is and will be impossible to really resolve this case. Sorry, its a dead end research-wise. As much as anything how you appraise the case depends on your view of the world. Can you accept the idea that an individual can make history without a conspiracy acting in the background, hidden and protected? There are so many research paths in the case you can spend your life chasing all the routes to the truth of the case. I would say it will teach you a great deal about societies and human nature, however, in the end Oswald killed JFK. The rest will never be resolved.

[@EntertainmentAustin]

Dead wrong in every aspect.

[@trekkiejunk]

Neil, yours is the most level-headed, intellectual argument that I’ve ever read on KZbin regarding this topic. But I still think it was Col. Mustard conspiring with Mrs. Peacock with the lead pipe in the library.

[@ryananon779]

Not a single point I can challenge. Good work.

[@darrell6800]

@Kberns 3 shots in 8 sec or more. watch Nova program

[@peterfraser9070]

@Kberns "he was able to pull off 4 shots in 6 seconds": 4 shots? in 6 seconds?? What a strange thing to say. "one of them a "magic bullet"": That's just downright ignorant. "one of the shots striking Kennedy in the head causing his head to go back and to the left": You're no expert. One entry in the back of the head and an exit in front of that is what matters.

[@johnadams5489]

1. Lee Harvey Oswald owned the rifle found on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository 2. Oswald owned the handgun was used in the murder of Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit. 3. Oswald was identified by witness Howard L. Brennan as the person firing a rifle at JFK . 4. Marina Oswald admits to having taken pictures of Lee with these weapons in the back yard photos. 5. Buell Wesley Frazier observed Oswald take a package into the Book Depository Building 6. Oswald's claim of "curtain rods" within the package was bull shit. 7. Oswald was working on the Depository's sixth floor that morning. LHO was the only one left on the 6th floor after everyone else left for lunch. 8. Oswald’s palm print and finger prints are on his Mannlicher-Carcano rifle after the assassination. 9. "A.J. Hidell" was actually Oswald himself; and the order form from Klein's Sporting Goods to purchase the rifle was positively proven to have been in Oswald's handwriting, and sent to a Dallas post-office box that was used by him. 10. Not ONE SPECK of any bullets/bullet fragments/bullet shells OTHER THAN THOSE COMING FROM OSWALD'S 6.5-MILLIMETER MANNLICHER-CARCANO RIFLE were discovered anywhere in Dealey Plaza, the limousine, the TSBD, Parkland Hospital, or in the victims 11. The majority of Dealey Plaza witnesses said shots came from behind the President, in the direction of the School Book Depository Building. In addition, an even larger percentage of witnesses said they heard EXACTLY three shots fired. No more, no less. And three spent shells (co-incidentally?) were found in the Sniper's Nest. 12. EVERY SINGLE ONE (if not 100%) of the newsmen and reporters riding in the motorcade in Dealey Plaza, who were in a position to immediately report the shooting to the world via media outlets (radio, television, and newswire services), heard EXACTLY THREE SHOTS FIRED. 13. Oswald makes an unusual trip to Irving on Thursday, Nov. 21, 1963, to retrieve his "curtain rods". His rifle is found missing from Ruth Paine's garage. Some curtain rods, which Mrs. Paine testified she DID have in her garage prior to the assassination (via 1986 questioning of her by Vincent Bugliosi during the TV Docu-Trial "On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald"), were STILL IN HER GARAGE AFTER NOVEMBER 22. 14. Oswald left behind his wedding ring and $170 for Marina on the morning of 11/22/63 15. Oswald, in flight, shoots and kill Dallas patrolman J.D. Tippit on 10th Street in the Dallas suburb of Oak Cliff. Multiple witnesses confirm it was Oswald who shot Officer Tippit. 16. Oswald attempted to murder retired General Edwin Walker in Dallas, on April 10, 1963. 17. Oswald could have indeed traveled, in 90 seconds or less, the distance across the sixth floor of the TSBD and descended the four flights of stairs in time to have been seen by policeman Marrion L. Baker on the building's second floor. Oswald was guilty as hell. That's where he is now.

[@wesleyantrim6648]

Spot on. Nobody wants to believe that some crackpot loner can topple a dynasty, but that’s exactly what happened.

[@ChadEAult]

John Adams All good points John. But I must say while the focus here is on Oswald, and rightly so, there are many to coincidences and bizarre events that led up to this event. Was Oswald a “crackpot?” Seems so. But look at all the assassins throughout history: Sir Han Sir Han, John Hickley, James Earl Ray, even John Wilkes Boothe. All could be labeled as crack pots. There were so many things that happened that day that was extraordinary. Like secret service detail being called off the limousine from Love Field. Also, many of the secret service was out late the night before. The route not being secure. The amount of suspicious people being in Dallas that Day: Richard Nixon. Kennedy opponent in the 1960 debate. Interesting is his longstanding ties to Prescott Bush. Many skull and bones man, including Malcolm Wallace, and George HERBERT Bush. Also, heads of the Maria were there that day. Jack Ruby was a non mafia member from Chicago. It interesting if you just look at following the money. The history of Allan Dulles, Prescott Bush, Malcolm Wallace, Jack Ruby, the head of the New Orleans, Dallas, and Chicago Mafia, the mafia’s ties to Joe Kennedy a non bootlegger for the mafia, LBJ, governor Connoly, even the southern racist factions, Kennedy being Catholic, his wanting to break up the CIA (again see Dulles and Bush), Kennedy wanting bust up the Federal Reserve, his turning against the Mafia, his disdain for J. Edgar Hoover, his mistrust of the Generals and the military industrial complex, his speech in Berlin, the switching of Caskets, the mishandling of evidence, the autopsy performed by someone who had never done an autopsy before in Washington not Dallas, the suspicious deaths of witnesses, E. Howard Hunt also being in Dallas, Kennedy not wanting to go into Vietnam. Appointing the man Kennedy despised to lead the warren commission, sealing documents for decades. The list goes on. Lincoln was assassinated also for many similar reasons. One being printing our own money. This thing is very complex, very compartmentalized, and many powerful people benefited from the death of Kennedy. To paint Oswald as a lone crackpot gunman is very convenient. I just don’t buy it. I don’t claim to be certain exactly who, but saying it was only Oswald just doesn’t pass the common sense test. While Oliver Stone’s movie is laced with many inaccuracies, Donald Sutherland character Col. Proudy, I might have misspelled that, hits the whole thing on the head. Who could have carried it out, who was to benefit, follow the money. Researching the history of all the characters that was in Dallas that day, and the participants at LBJ’s the night before can not be overlooked. Kennedy despised LBJ. But he needed him to win the South and help control the house. He was more than likely going to be dropped from the ticket in 1964. This also happened in his home state. To think Oswald COULDN’T have been used as just what he said he was, a patsy, is ludicrous.

[@johnadams5489]

@@ChadEAult You bought into conspiracy kooks horse shit. Have you been watching one too many youtube videos or did you read a couple of far fetched conspiracy books? For starters: NO SS agents where called off the motorcade. Total bullshit. Malcolm Wallace was NOT in Dallas on November 22 1963. Nixon had been hired as a speaker for an organization that booked him long before the Kennedy Dallas trip was set up. LBJ did NOT have a meeting in Dallas the night before the assassination with other co-conspirators. He was with the traveling Kennedy group in Houston, where they all stayed the night before flying to Dallas. That phony story was made up by his former mistress after LBJ died and her gravy train of money ended with his death. I am NOT going to waste anymore time with yet another conspiracy kook parroting 50 year old horse shit on youtube. I can smell it from here. Tell you what. If you have a case for conspiracy, hire a hot shot attorney and take it to the Grand Jury in Dallas. Prove it in Court. Stop blowing smoke on youtube. Its way old and so are your conspiracy stories. Yawn.

[@1994g0]

What about Jack Ruby`s murder of Oswald?What about the murder of Nicoletti?The murder of Roselli?

[@johnadams5489]

@@1994g0 What about it?

[@DianaMerritt-xn6mj]

If this was a conspiracy book there would be over a million views

[@dougstyles]

So much unknown mentioned in this book. Ive probably read/listened to 3 dozen books on this topic and never heard alot of whats mentioned. Is this author well respected? Im half asleep but i will research more tomorrow.

[@ronmarvicsin7709]

My personal opinion , Mr Posner simply repeats everything from the Warren Commission. See they have no where else to go. They are stuck with the story the WC chiseled in stone. If you challenged anything they say they just refer back to the WC which believe me is 26 volume of sleeping pills. Its only purpose was to prove Oswald guilty without a trial or any serious investigation. Really, if you were JFK and you fired Allen Dulles from the CIA would you want him on the commission to investigate your murder?

[@jetcat132]

Posner is very much respected, except by the conspiracy industry. As a former conspiracy believer, I despised Posner. But once I opened my eyes and decided to see the actual facts instead of what I wanted to see, I realized I disliked him only because he told the inconvenient truth. It upended what I wanted to believe and replaced it with what really happened that day.

[@dougstyles]

@jetcat132 the human brain is an interesting mystery

[@jetcat132]

@@dougstyles It sure is…

[@DaveSCameron]

Read wider 😂

[@rawbacon]

Almost 60 years and not one speck of evidence that even comes close to suggesting a conspiracy.

[@dinomader306]

Except on the involvement of the Mafia!

[@LuisaRodriguez0212]

There is an excellent book by James Douglass.

[@joemckinnon2834]

How about the video showing him getting shot FROM THE FRONT in the right side of his face while Oswald was supposedly way "behind him", another magic bullet huh, you fucking idiot. The country is doomed with pussies like you with zero intelligence being able to walk around freely...

[@mauiswift6391]

@@dinomader306evidence?

[@itsme-qk2vb]

The simple truth how refreshing

[@DaveSCameron]

Hahaha 🤣! If you enjoy a rehash of the WC then yes 😂

[@itsme-qk2vb]

@David S Cameron Oswald killed Kennedy all by his lonesome. Case closed you can wallow in your conspiracy all ya want my dimwitted friend

[@alwagner9722]

​@@DaveSCameronsome people wouldn't know the truth if it punched them in the face.

[@jetcat132]

@@DaveSCameron It’s better than the vile casserole of a biology experiment the conspiracy theorists baked up.

[@woodie6408]

The warren report needs to be put in the section next to huckleberry fin and tom sawyer.

[@DaveSCameron]

Why insult such literature with a potboiler!

[@edlutz7218]

So true

[@madshadows7083]

It got a few things wrong but on the central issue of who killed JFK, the Warren report got it right. In 57 years no one has proven a conspiracy nor has any physical evidence of any other fire arm in Dealey Plaza ever been found.

[@DaveSCameron]

@Kimberly Marshall There's countless documents hidden, Warren has been proven faulty, there's myriad scholarly works displaying direct links with others and yet you somehow read this single book claiming the truth? How arrogant are you!

[@jeperstone]

Have you read the Warren Report? No, of course you haven't 😉

[@mootamoonta261]

For those that see. Oswald told you he did not kill the President.

[@johnkru1295]

Strange his brother Robert believed he did it for the glory and fame. But Oswald denied it at least for two days.

[@danieleyre8913]

Oswald was a compulsive liar.

[@Steve-nm9qy]

One Irony is that Oswald wanted to be a historical figure even if it meant murdering another man yet the CT's won't give him the credit he obviously earned

[@alwagner9722]

I'm no theorist but, if it's as simple as Oswald was the "lone nut", why have so much classified documents sealed forever? You don't find that curious? Do you have the wherewithal to question authority?

[@davidarbuckle7236]

Surely you can explain how Oswald did it with a 12-dollar rifle from 220 feet away on a right-to-left trajectory and creating 7 wounds and with only 2 bullets. Who says he wanted to be famous? Who? Where?

[@phonicwheel933]

*_@Steve-nm9qy_* Yes, Oswald had allusions of grandeur and a death wish. He wanted to go down as an infamous assassin and the tragedy is that he got his twisted wish. The irony of your post seems to be a bit subtle for, *_@alwagner9722_* and *_@davidarbuckle7236._*

[@johnbarry8542]

Oswald is the only one who didn't shoot that day.

[@crimony3054]

Bummer huh? The one conspirator who didn't shoot got blamed for the whole thing.

[@user6008]

Bugs bunny did it.

[@jonchaney]

@@user6008 it was Hillary! By the way, may I have your John Hancock?

[@jamiemoffatt50]

How is it being this dumb?

[@allan9603]

Read this book years ago, and I must say Posner almost had me convinced, until he gave no explanations as to why: 1. Ruth Paine's location prior to and after the assassination, wasn't verified? 2. LHO was never shown to have money to travel and provide for himself 3. Why many of those who were on the grassy knoll, and near the Pickett fence who smelled gun smoke, were never called to testify by the Warren Commission? Posner, obviously pro government, made points already known by those in and around the investigation, but failed to dwell deeper into such things such as who exactly LHO met in Mexico City? Who paid for his room and board there?

[@LRRPFco52]

Read the Hoover memo: "We have a Mexico City Problem", where he details how the guy in Mexico City pulling the stunts with the embassies wasn't Oswald.

[@allan9603]

@@LRRPFco52 , I will go back and look at it. Posner obviously took advantage of all the pro conspiracy theories by writing a book to the contrary, naming LHO as the "Lone Ranger" He read the Warren Report, expounded on it, threw in a few rumors, twisted in his own take and put it out there. Keep in mind that Posner was an out of work Wall Street lawyer with no experience in Criminal Law.

[@christophermanley3602]

He covered all of those points in the book.

[@LRRPFco52]

@@christophermanley3602 Posner covered what points? The fact Oswald wasn't in Mexico and Hoover knew it was a problem for the WC report BS? Posner fails to understand basic firearms mechanics, principles, and characteristics, let alone basic Anatomy & Physiology. That makes him incompetent and irrelevant for any analysis of any crime involving firearms, let alone the crime of the 20th Century. If you read anything he has to write on those subjects, you're wasting your time.

[@Heroball299]

Don't lie. You never read the book. All the questions you mentioned are answered in the book, so why don't you read it and answer your own question.

[@jamiebond3040]

This is interesting 🤨

[@jenniferwise8515]

Oswald shot no guns on 11 22 1963. No rifles or handguns.

[@ryans756]

That's the exact opposite of the truth, especially considering he ordered the rifle, owned the rifle, was photographed with the rifle, was seen transporting the rifle into the Depository, and considering every other piece of solid evidence in this case.

[@jenniferwise8515]

@@ryans756 Alex Hidell ordered the rifle. The photo was doctored. Head of Lee put on the body at the wrong angle. Kill head shot was an exploding bullet which Lee never owned. Caliber of the pistol that killed Tippet was wrong.80% believe the lying CIA which feeds the media. Keep digging. You are only spouting the Warren Omission. You believe lying devils like Allen Dulles etc who planned this( JFK fired him as CIA chief)

[@jamespuckett5547]

@@jenniferwise8515 the photo was not doctored. Marina herself admitted to taking the picture. Oswald also gave a copy to George Mohrenschildt. Quit relying on bogus KZbin videos for your sources

[@jenniferwise8515]

@@jamespuckett5547 George DeMorenshield was a Oswald CIA handler and oddly.taught Jackie Kennedy to ride horses growing up. It is obvious that.photo with Os and the rifle was a horrible photoshop. As for Marina, no one could believe her. She had 4 stories that contrdicted the previous storym

[@jamespuckett5547]

@@jenniferwise8515 well the onus is on you to prove it. But that’s the route all conspiracy advocates always seem to get lost on.

[@markhansen2981]

I can't believe this was a "bestseller". Family members of the Warren Commission must have bought multiple copies! Thank God for truth seeker's like Doug Horne!

[@paulspears715]

I actually read this when it came out, and ,sad to say i believed, then I came to my senses. Even Jesse Curry said we don't have any witness that saw him with a gun in his hand and shoot. Any good lawyer would have got him off, easily.

[@markhansen2981]

@@paulspears715 If you get a chance to watch Doug Horne's podcast. I cannot suggest it enough! He has access to so everything that was made available by the "freedom of information act" just after the movie JFK. Although there is still much we don't know, there is a lot more we do know thanks to the AARB and Doug Horne

[@camoss3724]

@@paulspears715 Not likely. As G. Robert Blakey noted, "If Oswald had shot his brother-in-law from the sixth-floor window, he'd have been tried, convicted and forgotten in about three days. But for the fact that this was the President of the United States, this is an easy case."

[@vestibulate]

The author of this book was forced to resign from The Daily Beast due to multiple instances of plagiarism. He's also been repeatedly accused of altering quotes provided by interview subjects.

[@DaveSCameron]

Is this true?

[@vestibulate]

@@DaveSCameron Yes.

[@DaveSCameron]

@@vestibulate That`s appalling!

[@vestibulate]

@@DaveSCameron Here are a couple of paragraphs from Posner's Wikipedia entry: In 2010, Posner was the chief investigative reporter at The Daily Beast. Following the revelation that a number of Posner's stories for the Beast contained portions plagiarized from articles in other publications, Posner resigned from the Beast.[94][106][107][108][109] According to Posner, the plagiarism was inadvertent and the result of the "compressed deadlines" of the Beast and confusing his assembled research with his own writing in the "master files" he assembled on each story. Allegations of plagiarism also surfaced concerning his book, Miami Babylon (October 2009).[110][111] Posner said the Miami Babylon plagiarism occurred because of a new system of "trailing endnotes", because an individual he interviewed read one of the plagiarized sources and reiterated it during the interview, and because he mistook other people's writing for his own after scanning source documents into a computer database.[112][113] The Miami New Times also found that Posner "seems to add, subtract, or misattribute quotes" and displayed a series of such "apparently altered or misattributed quotes".[111][114] For all the examples shown, Posner cited a source article, where an examination of the source showed that the quote given in Posner's writing was either substantially altered (e.g., words added), never said by the subject, misattributed, or used out of context. Posner subsequently hired attorney Mark Lane, threatening litigation against the Miami New Times on grounds of tortious interference (i.e., that its investigation and reporting of this case damaged Posner's business relationship with his publishers) and emotional distress.[115][116][117] In a press release, Posner stated "Although I'm convinced Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated President Kennedy, I've always believed that had Mark Lane represented Oswald, he would have won an acquittal. That's why Mark Lane was the obvious choice as my own attorney."[115] Soon thereafter, the Miami New Times published evidence of additional plagiarism from multiple sources in both Secrets of the Kingdom and Why America Slept.[118] According to Poynter Institute senior scholar Roy Peter Clark, "This constitutes plagiarism by any definition I can think of. ... The capturing of someone else's material that is this extensive cannot, in my opinion, have been done accidentally."[119] Evidence was also presented indicating that Posner had repeatedly "scrubbed" elements of the journalism scandal from his Wikipedia page.[119] According to Posner, the media reports detailing his journalistic transgressions were actually the result of a "coordinated effort" to "discredit ... Miami Babylon" because of the book's "unvarnished and investigative history".

[@henochparks]

@@vestibulate Thanks

[@susannamarker2582]

Mr. Posner's enviably clear and detailed descriptions of Oswald show that the CIA, ONI and FBI would immediately identify Oswald as the perfect patsy for any future high-level operation.

[@peterfraser9070]

You guys are literally patsies and shills of the conspiracy to fabricate a JFK assassination conspiracy.

[@hiataki7]

Couldn't agree with you any more. You know, I've always wondered what the conspirators plan B option was if on the morning of 11/22/63 if Oswald, you know the patsy, had decided to call in sick to get an early start on his weekend and not even been close to the TSBD that day, I'm sure they would have come up with something though, for they control all.

[@TELEVISIONARCHIVES]

What?

[@peterfraser9070]

Except that he would be unreliable and likely to eff it up and / or could easily change his mind and want to control his own actions and be the one to do this big momentous action - alone, since he was such a narcissist.

[@jayfrank1913]

Yeah sure. How could they have known he would be employed in the book depository? He could have been assigned to a different location, but he was assigned to the book depository weeks before the presidential motorcade route was even announced, Every other presidential assassination, with the exception of Lincoln, was perpetrated by a "lone nut."

[@sandrasanders706]

Is this a revised version if the book? I read it when it first came out.

[@TheJer1963]

It does seem to be a little different. I still have my copy of it and the book cover is different than this one.

[@DaveSCameron]

It's the state sponsored edition with CIA appendix.

[@latinforever]

Oswald, according to this book, appears to be the type of person who believes in conspiracy theories.

[@christophermanley3602]

I noticed that, too. Very interesting.

[@toddness305]

I love all the pro-conspiracy comments. Body doubles, invisible gunmen shooting non-existent bullets, tampering with JFK’s corpse while it’s being flown to Washington, it’s adorable. 😂

[@stevemill8959]

I thought that was all crazy talk until I really looked into it and why people said that. Oswald was documented in multiple places all that same time lol

[@stevemill8959]

It’s all strange

[@williamanthony9090]

@@stevemill8959 Well, there's no doubt that after the shots were fired, Oswald left work, went to his rooming house, put on a different jacket, stuck his '38 snub nose in his pocket, got stopped by Officer Tippet, and in front of witnesses shot him dead. Oswald then ran off, entered a movie theater without bothering to buy a ticket, and when Dallas cops showed up at the scene, Oswald yelled "It's all over now," and attempted to shoot one of the arresting officers. This was not a patsy. This was not an innocent man. And none of his actions between the time of his arrest and his own murder, indicated a poor fellow wrongly caught up in the machinery of the law!

[@wagstaffe7]

Oswald was someone who craved attention at any cost. And the great irony was he was in turn killed by someone with the very same temperament

[@432b86ed]

If he "craved attention", then why did he vociferously and incessantly refute any and all involvement in the matters at hand? If he "craved attention _at any cost_ ." then why would he deny having anything whatsoever to do with it? Why would he be taking every step he could to distance himself from the act which put him in the spotlight?

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

@@432b86ed Because if he had said yeah, I did it he wouldn't have been the star at the trial of the century. Think O.J.Simpson x 100.

[@432b86ed]

@@GeorgePenton-np9rh That is one way to look at it - I suppose. However, you should consider what Dallas Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig said about the way Oswald sounded when he said, "Now everyone will know who I am". That "it wasn't a brag". Link upon request.

[@paulspears715]

I have seen that clip, very believable, see the look on Oswald's face when he is informed that he has indeed been charged JFK's murder, it's like..oh shit i'm fucked now

[@paulspears715]

if he "craved" attention, he would have bragged about shooting the president, he did not, in fact he denied it, repeatedly

[@lbennhtx6072]

I think Oswald did it all by himself.

[@mauiswift6391]

There is amble evidence he did so.

[@ClintSutherland-f7i]

lol

[@bobhimes7936]

He did.....

[@larryrichards6093]

Ah, the conspiracy theorists. They hate it when someone shows how shallow their theories are. Pay attention, folks. This case is closed. Oswald acted alone. Period.

[@LazlosPlane]

And Santa will bring me a brand new bike!!!!!

[@jamespuckett5547]

@@LazlosPlane Have him bring you a cure for your cognitive dissonance too

[@LazlosPlane]

@@jamespuckett5547 Poor Jimmy. Nobody believes his safe little world story anymore.

[@jamespuckett5547]

@@LazlosPlane nice try. Is that the best you can offer? LMAO!

[@allancove4483]

@@LazlosPlane lol You cracked a good one!

[@dennisjager770]

I don,t believe not a word Gerald !!!!

[@dennisjager770]

Can,t you read i said not a word Gerald is a paid government agent, there to spread lies!!!

[@wallykatny]

Idiot

[@shanecarpenter7776]

Yeah lets lock up info because 1 guy did it, bs

[@DaveSCameron]

Can`t fault your logic and the clear fact that TWO of your potus`s have failed to release said documents screams why!?

[@thelakeman5207]

It will never bring JFK back. There may never be evidence as to who really did it. Move on. It drove me nuts for years until I let it go.

[@shanecarpenter7776]

There shouldn't be need to lock anything up, that's the point

[@thelakeman5207]

@Bryan Mack Do you really think that the government will release any records stating it was a conspiracy by the CIA and NSA? LOL!

[@DaveSCameron]

@Bryan Mack Indeed and no signs of that golden "Hitler ordered Jews dead" document.

[@Number4lead]

After reading this book and seeing some TV shows I am convinced there were no other shooters, any connected to Oswald anyway. Or any others who took any shots. If they did they missed.

[@Knossos22]

After reading many books and seeing as many TV shows, I am convinced the official story about the assassination of JFK is false! I suggest you read JFK and the Unspeakable by James W. Douglass.

[@td4190]

Have you heard the audio of the bullets. There is no way one person shot those rounds that quickly. It's bang wait wait bang wait wait bang bang wait wait bang. I don't think there is anyone ever has been in the military or any other field who could take a shot reload and take another shot in that quick. Not even if you had the extra bullet in your hand and your finger on the release part there's no way you could get that new bullet in in time and then Cochran Swift before you pulled that trigger there's just no time for all that

[@td4190]

First 3 and last shot you can hear are definitely same shooter that 4 the shoot doesn't even sound the same to me and definitely couldn't have been from same shooter or at least not with the gun they say he used

[@DaveSCameron]

Read on Sir.. 😂

[@justin3947]

@@td4190what audio of gunshots are you talking about?

[@GeorgePenton-np9rh]

He had a good rifle, he was 75 yards from the target, and was trained by the Marines.

[@DaveSCameron]

And CIA

[@paystarbuzzy]

@@DaveSCameron Fuck, yeah! Oswald was ONI from Day 1, and bet your boots, bro, someone looked at his file and saw his destiny as a sheep dipping subject from DAY FUCKING ONE!!!

[@goodgood9955]

@@paystarbuzzy Wrong Mr Penton. Rifle good enough and thats all one needs. Distance short enough. Experience with rifles BEFORE Marines, DURING Marines and AFTER Marines; that's about 5 years worth experience...and tha'ts ALL one needs.

[@goodgood9955]

@@paystarbuzzy Which one is the lie? That he had experience with rifles DURING the Marines?

[@paystarbuzzy]

@@goodgood9955 you know the lie. He had no shooting skill.

[@Stryker20008]

The casualty is truth

[@dannybubalo5656]

1:30:49 my bookmark

[@DWizzle0007]

It was the "Texas Theater" not Dallas Theater but its ok ha

[@DaveSCameron]

Nitpicking nut, where were you on the 22nd Nov. 1963 young man? ;-}

[@DWizzle0007]

@@DaveSCameron I was the second gunman on the grassy knoll lmaooooo STFUUUUUUU u sensitive prick

[@DaveSCameron]

@@DWizzle0007 Hahahahaha!!

[@tw364]

O

[@ryans756]

It's quite common to call something by a less accurate name when writing. When writing, you don't want to repeat yourself too much. If you write "Texas Theatre" two or three times in the same couple of sentences, it's bad form. So you might use "Texas Theatre" once or twice and mix it up with "Dallas" or "Downtown" or "large" or whatever the fuck other adjectives you can think of :)

[@jayheinkel]

This book needs a part 2 especially now with more info coming out.

[@rosaoddin4338]

There is a part two

[@DaveSCameron]

Part 2 arrived months back ❤

[@peterfraser9070]

@@DaveSCameron It's a shame you didn't read it and pay attention. A person who is serious and pays attention to all the hard, physical evidence - and pays attention to what Oswald was like, does not conclude with something shallow and dismissive like "Lone Nut nonsense".

[@DaveSCameron]

@@peterfraser9070 I appreciate your condescending reply, best 😎

[@peterfraser9070]

What relevant "info" do you think cam out? Because I think that's an empty bluff.

[@single55]

The case will never be closed.

[@dougmaclennan8654]

Michael Collins Piper closed it in Final Judgment.

[@calwianka]

Please. It's obvious. Oswald was a horrible human being capable of murder. He did over the top things like defecting to Russia and starting a chapter of Fair Play for Cuba in New Orleans.

[@yuothineyesasian]

@@calwianka Who was impersonating Oswald in Mexico City?

[@peterfraser9070]

for you, yeah

[@noroar3258]

what rifle did LHO use earlier in the year in his attempt to kill the General ,the carcana ?

[@j.dragon651]

yes

[@81overon]

The evidence that LHO made an attempt on Gen Walker is very thin.

[@Steve-nm9qy]

Ruby did this country a great favor.

[@marksmale827]

There are still fundamental underlying questions unanswered. Such as the one below from me about the withholding of official documents. If this were a simple open-and-shut case of a lone nutter as concluded by the original inquiry, why the conspiracy theorising which has been going on for generations now? And again, are the many ordinary folk who saw and heard things that do not accord with that conclusion liars? Who rang The Times newspaper on London shortly before the event and said that there was going to be big news coming out of Dallas today? Who was the man - not Oswald - carrying a high-powered rifle - not an old bolt-action one - seen leaving a rear entrance of the TSBD building minutes after the event and being driven away in a waiting car? On and on it goes.

[@DaveSCameron]

Hear hear!

[@syourke3]

The Kennedy assassination conspiracy is no longer a mere theory - it’s a proven fact. If you’re serious about learning about, I strongly recommend watching the BBC documentary “The Men Who Killed Kennedy” cane out in the 1980’s and it’s on KZbin. We have learned a lot more since then, but it will provide you with a good foundation. Tons of interviews with eyewitnesses, identifies the killer specifically. It’s in nine parts and last around 6 hours but it’s mandatory if you really want to get at the truth. Second, read The Devils Chessboard by David Talbot. Published a couple years ago. Biography of Alan Dulles. Talbot makes a strong case for Dulles - CIA chief fires by Kennedy after Bay of Pigs fiasco - as brings the mastermind behind the conspiracy. Talbot is a very serious journalist and his book is brilliant. If you want to understand the rise of the national security state, it’s a must-read. Cheers.

[@rebeccapardue8438]

There are several things that stand out but this one thing in particular. According to the FBI statement, according to the autopsy doctors, the shot to President Kennedys' back entered at an angle between 45 and 60 degrees. My question is, what is the angle from President Kennedy to the 6th floor window where the shots supposedly came from ? Mike Pardue ✌

[@syourke3]

@@rebeccapardue8438 You have to watch The Men Who Killed Kennedy if you want to learn the truth about the assassination. It’s mandatory. Should be on KZbin. Anyway, it the Warren Commission is a pack of lies. They say that Kennedy was bent leaning forward when he was struck by the bullet from behind and so the bullet’s trajectory measured by the path it took inside the body can be different from the downward trajectory from the window to the President. But the Warren Commission actually altered the position of the upper back wound in order to align it with the wound in the throat in order to make it seem that there was only one entry - in the upper back - and one exit wound -in the throat - where in fact they were both entry wounds. It was a CIA coup d’etat. Alan Dulles was the mastermind behind it.

[@marksmale827]

@@rebeccapardue8438 Was that the first non-fatal shot that exited his throat? if so, it's not particularly relevant. The shot that killed him was the second one, to the head.

[@richardpytel2467]

Yeah Posner "knows" the truth and nothing but the truth. Wonder who paid/sponsored him to write this.

[@ronfrey6639]

I wonder if hes related to leanord posner who is also a piece of shit ??

[@travismaxwell211]

Oswald......and who else?????

[@vernpascal1531]

if you have no curiosity or honesty whatsoever Oswald acting alone will sound reasonable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@rodtaylor1322]

Secret Service agent George Hickey. He was standing in the back seat of the follow-up car behind the presidential limo in the motorcade. After hearing shots being fired in the plaza Hickey reached down and picked up the Colt AR-15 rifle from the back seat floorboard. When the presidential limo driver pressed the brakes on the limo this forced the driver of the follow-up car to press the brakes on his car. This caused Hickey to lose his balance and accidentally fire the rifle that he was holding. JFK was hit in the head and killed by that rifle shot. So, LHO tried to shoot JFK in the head, but Hickey is actually the one that killed JFK.

[@robertdore9592]

@@rodtaylor1322 Absolute Bull excrement! BACK and to the LEFT!

[@miked9112]

Rod Taylor horseshit, that conspiracy theory has been disproved - LHO acted alone, this has been proven

[@bohemiancorporal]

Travis, don’t overlook the Aliens from Area 51. They supplied the stealth shooter on the grassy knoll.

[@ClintSutherland-f7i]

no lie can live forever.

[@DaveSCameron]

Amen

[@danieleyre8913]

Yeah. The conspiracy theories are dying off.

[@gregfox8132]

Bagley and angleton (sic) what become of these persecution chiefs. I found that chapter really interesting. Torturing an innocent man, sickening.

[@jeffersonianideal]

If Oswald committed the crime alone it is still plausible to have a conspiracy after the fact.

[@jeffersonianideal]

Hit and run comment republished: "Steve A jeffersonianideal evidence?" There is ample evidence. Even Gerald Posner mentions the omissions in the Warren Commission report, and in keeping some of Oswald's political history hidden from public view. Again, an open and shut case against Oswald can be made so that doesn't change who committed the crime. A conspiracy after the fact simply means that government acted clandestinely to conceal the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. This has happened many times throughout history.

[@halwarner3326]

jeffersonianideal true. It was a strange time.

[@jeffersonianideal]

@hal warner Huh?

[@paystarbuzzy]

Alas alas, he did not, he did not. Military ambush/Coup d'Etat

[@jeffersonianideal]

@@paystarbuzzy Why haven't conspiracy theories arisen about Oswald's attempted assassination of General Walker?

[@Steve-nm9qy]

Just saw a Hyundai commercial with no black people in it. Thank you, Hyundai. Not anti-black. Just tired of em being forced down my throat. You wanna divide people? That's how ya do it.

[@cumswag1222]

based.

[@TheTEAMBUTLER]

This is better to sleep too than any rain n thunder 😎

[@jonchaney]

Lol, I just put it on and am stretching out .

[@peterfraser9070]

@@jonchaney Yes, the boring old truth is not as exciting as ct stories; and the boring old truth requires more than a 5-second attention span.

[@jonchaney]

@@peterfraser9070 hmm. What are we talking about?

[@peterfraser9070]

@@jonchaney I forget

[@johnferreira7419]

Oswald wanted Fame he was evil , but guess what Jack Ruby wanted Fame too , so Oswald you reap what you sow. Jack Ruby the avenger or equalizer.

[@deborahleone4351]

Although I TOTALLY disagree with this author, there is a video of him teaching on this book. I know he must have done sooooo much work! But it seemed to me that he just took puzzle pieces of this tragedy and shifted them around, also utilizing statements from involved parties (Such as Marina Oswald) that could not be corroborated one way or another! He speaks like a Salesman, but it’s great to see someone totally passionate about their work subject! My opinion of what actually happened before the PLANNING of JFK’s murder has not changed after listening to him speak. But that doesn’t mean the author didn’t do a great job of writing.....he certainly knows how to turn truth into seeds to create a “Doubting Thomas”. The video I’m talking about can be seen on You Tube under “ON STAGE”. They’re part of the Sixth Floor Book Depository, and both speakers and guests appear to collectively be fans of anything that can bring the TRUTH to those of us who lived through the tragedy, albeit from afar. This is the name of the video as well....”Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald”. There are more speakers on different areas of the assassination, My favorite so far is one by Dr. Grover Proctor! NEW PROVEN INFORMATION! He is GREAT, GREAT, GREAT! He KNOWS what he’s talking about. God bless all here, and may He open our physical AND spiritual eyes and hearts, to see the Truth about the murder of a sitting President of the 🇺🇸USA. Still so very, very shocking and sad. WhenDr. King and RFK were also murdered, I remember fed,in very unsafe in my own skin. After the whole Trump Mess (don’t be offended🙋‍♀️, we’re all entitled to our opinion! 😘), caused me to have a new wave of mistrust of our government’s behind-the-scenes games they play. I LOVE MY COUNTRY! But it was so difficult to watch what went on, once a dictatorial Mad Man got behind the “pulpit” he was preaching from whenever he wasn’t Tweeting. So sad. 🌹

[@ronmarvicsin7709]

Nice reply until you got to the utterly uncalled for transition to the next President D Trump. You refer to him as a dictatorial madman.? Why are you so against a man a president that is trying to get our country back from these snot nosed Dems who believe they are above ever law? Dictator? Unlike a party that tried to impeach a sitting president twice with evidence of ”colluding with Russia all made up by Adam Schiff? It’s been proven already and what happens to him, censure? He should be arrested for treason at the very least. And now your knight in shining armor is a man who doesn’t know which side of the stage to exit time after time? He goes to shake hands with people who aren’t there? Messes up peoples names and forgets peoples names every-time he speaks? Polosi wanted to impeach Trump saying that he wasn’t mentally fit to be president but now it’s Biden stumbling and mumbling around and you forget? Now after all he’s been through and is ready to come back, your party tries everything they can to keep him from running against this mummy and you call him a dictator? Sadly your party is AFRAID of Donald Trump.

[@CWYMAN77]

Spoiler: It was a conspiracy.

[@jamespuckett5547]

Proof?

[@CWYMAN77]

@@jamespuckett5547 Common sense.

[@jamespuckett5547]

@@CWYMAN77 Common sense is something you can’t use became you don’t have any

[@CWYMAN77]

@@jamespuckett5547 you’re a moron.

[@damongreville2197]

I wonder how much they paid Posner for this bs!

[@1956gaba]

You don’t get paid for yours. Open your eyes

[@jeffersonianideal]

8:00:14 “The cable to Moscow about Oswald from the KGB agents in Mexico City ended up on the desk of the agent who had first handled the matter in 1951, Yuri Nosenko.” 1951?

[@stevea6192]

jeffersonianideal I caught that too. I’m guessing 1961. Unless you want to believe the KGB was investigating a 12 year old Oswald in 1951

[@jeffersonianideal]

Communist indoctrination starts at a young age.

[@paystarbuzzy]

Steve A This is a typically Posnerian jedi mind trick. It is definitely NOT 1951. Sorry. In my mind that inexcusable error renders the man's entire body of work not credible. He is vintage bratocracy gone mad, a cowardly drama queen to a mendacious extreme. He is a legally proven plagiarist. His sacharrine voice makes me puke if I listen to this long enough.

[@paystarbuzzy]

@Snaggle Toothed no, sir, as it happens, he earns more of my contempt every new time it plays. As for whether my mind was already made up, that is my business alone. Because the important thing to know is Oswald was still the intended target of guilt and suspicion by meticulous paramilitary planning. Despite plotter efforts and despite Posner's brilliant book, he was an innocent fall guy. What we are seeing is the best p.r. money can buy, laboring to this day to keep the American people from reacting in what they feel is the wrong way to our country's only obvious Coup d'etat ever. Exhume JFK. Lean Hardly Oddball was a SHEEP-DIPPED patsy.

[@paystarbuzzy]

If my mind were any more open, my brains would have fallen out by now.

[@allancove4483]

LEGAL DOCUMENTAION is not wrong, anymore than the LAWS are not wrong. So if anyone has a problem with the LEGAL DOCUMENTATION, you must have a problem with the truth of which our government leaders seem to never tell. And if anyone has a problem with the LAWS, take that issue up with those who make them. My information is 100% accurate based on both, LEGAL DOCUMENTATION & the LAWS that we ALL must abide by, including the government. Something of which, they never seem to do.

[@MrJamesradcliffe]

Complete nonsense. Be warned, if you watch this you will be lied to

[@K131399]

6:46 start

[@davidarbuckle7236]

Another whitewash of the facts. Sorry, you cannot make the magic bullet go through 15 layers of clothing from a right to left trajectory create 7 wounds changing directions more than once and end up in Connally's left thigh. Not to mention Connally himself stated until his death that the bullet that struck Kennedy in the neck was not the bullet that hit him in the back. And you still cannot account for the bullet hole in the front window, or the bullet that struck Teague, or the bullet found at the manhole cover. Not to mention the debacle of the non Autopsy at Bethesda or the missing brain, etc etc. This was an obvious conspiracy and the only people who believe the Warren report are authors of Warren Report Apologist books or either connected to the Dallas Police or FBI or CIA or the Mob or Secret Service or members of the Warren Report.

[@danieleyre8913]

No apology offered; you're effecting a pantomime of denial.

[@williamanthony9090]

zzzzzzzzzzzz

[@FredPena-rd5cf]

​@@williamanthony9090< just like the Warren Commission.

[@williamanthony9090]

@@FredPena-rd5cf zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[@williamanthony9090]

@@FredPena-rd5cf ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[@fk8118]

I'm plowing through this, but it is ugly the way LHO treated his wife (women)

[@rustyshackelford9156]

When I got to the part where Posner claimed Lee Oswald slept in the same bed with his mother until he was fourteen. With no citation? That was too much for me. It's just weird and creepy for any author to say that. Certain intimate details of a then minor should be off limits.

@@rustyshackelford9156 One thing for sure, Oswald was 10 times better read than Posner. For age 24 he was an intellectual.

[@rustyshackelford9156]

@ definitely. Lee is supposed to teach himself Russian before he is even 20 years old? This is an amazing accomplishment that strongly indicates a high level of intellect.

@@rustyshackelford9156 Find his unedited library reading list: sci-fi, to geo-politics to classic novels.

[@rustyshackelford9156]

@ thanks. I will

[@Daniel-sh3os]

The Kennedy Limo had a fatal flaw. The car would stop when the driver took his foot off the gas thereby allowing its occupant's head to be blown off.

[@jamespuckett5547]

That is utter nonsense and untrue.

[@Daniel-sh3os]

@@jamespuckett5547 Its a joke. You idiot.

[@jamespuckett5547]

@@Daniel-sh3os It's hard to tell what some one is trying to impart in written words. Maybe try adding an emoji you, dumb azz LMAO!!! That *dumb azz* was a joke, you idiot... :-)

[@johnkru1295]

I still don't get it.

[@ryans756]

@@Daniel-sh3os What's the punchline of this joke? Nothing in your post has any irony or humour, or anything traditionally thought of as "funny". I'm not doubting that it was a joke, I'd just like the joke explaining please, so I can smile/laugh accordingly.

[@yozzsongs]

Good try but far too many holes in the narrative. And JFK unfortunately...

[@timwood3331]

Wouldn't 3 shots, from a rifle, echo like crazy throughout the building and wouldn't that be Oswald's concern if he planned to get away with it and not taking credit or suicide?

[@ryans756]

How many people do you think Oswald expected to be inside the building when PRESIDENT KENNEDY was about to drive by OUTSIDE? Seriously.

[@watermelonlalala]

Most people reported three or less shots, so I don't think echoes of bullet sound were an issue. That is some red herring that got introduced into the story. From my own experience with my neighbors, when they are making bangs and thuds on their driveway, the sound seems to come not in the window next to the driveway, but from a window in the rear of the house. The sound travels and bounces and sounds - once - like it is coming from the wrong direction.

[@watermelonlalala]

Did Oswald even know the boss was going to tell them everybody could go out and watch the parade?

[@letsgobrandon6281]

@@watermelonlalala good point

[@letsgobrandon6281]

OSWALD SAID ,IM A PATSY. HE WAS. BUT HE WAS INVOLVED SOMEHOW

[@allancove4483]

Some food for thought. The "Katzenbach Memo" (which if you do a google search) is free & in the public domain for all to read & come to your own conclusions on, came from acting Attorney General Nick Katzenbach & it came out just ONE DAY AFTER Jack Ruby murdered Lee Harvey Oswald. I only bring this up because it lays out the whole plan for the cover-up. Keep in mind that it came from the U.S. Department of Justice, the Attorney General's office that Robert F. Kennedy himself was the head of, & it detailed exactly what had to be done. That document PROVES that the whole U.S. Government cover-up was not some idle occurrence & did not just evolve as the circumstances developed. That was their plan from the start. So look at the words & get yourself a good handle on the truth. It tells you what the plan was, straight from the get-go. "The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large; & that the evidence was such as he would have been convicted at a trial." Is that clear enough for you? Because it's sure as hell clear to me. We need something to head off public speculation or Congressional hearings of the sort. Yeah. We wouldn't want the public to wonder what actually happened to their President who just had his brains blasted to smithereens. We wouldn't want our duly-elected officials in Congress to conduct an actual investigation & try to figure out what actually happened. We wouldn't want any of those things, would we? The only other step would be the appointment of a Presidential Commission of unimpeachable personnel to review & examine the evidence & announce its conclusion. And THAT'S why they formed the Warren Commission. That's the REAL reason; Not to find the TRUTH but to bury it.

[@stddisclaimer8020]

@Allan Cove: Which is the reason you can retreat to the echo chamber of your own forum where you can "bury the truth" while listening only to like-minded fools who profess a deep abiding belief in Santa Claus conspiracies.

[@phonicwheel933]

Of the 2,000 books published about the JFK assassination, this is one of the best. It demolishes the sensationalist and false claims of the majority of books, and the movie, _Executive Action_ and the two Stone movies, especially, _JFK,_ that make money out of gullible people. BTW, a movie that is engaging, without distorting the facts, is _Parkland._ This book gives a comprehensive description of Oswald's background, and explains how he became a twisted little punk, who alone killed JFK in cold blood, with the sole intention of satisfying his narcissistic yearning to be an infamous assassin. It's an ironic travesty that he achieved his goal.

[@tetr2024]

Bingo!!

[@LRRPFco52]

Weird. Carlos Hathcock and all the senior Scout Sniper instructors could never duplicate the shots in the Quantico Urban village, using a 6.5 M38 Carcano carbine with scope. They used that scenario as an end-of-course challenge for attending Scout Sniper Instructors, none of whom ever matched Oswald's rifle wizardry. I guess the Marines really did train the best rifleman in history when barely qualifying Oswald went through BRM in the 1950s with his M1 Garand, never to be matched by even the best Marine Snipers with hundreds of confirmed kills at distances averaging 5-10x what Oswald performed in Dealey Plaza that day. Even better, Oswald performed this riflery with a disassembled piece of excrement Italian War effort surplus rifle with a cheap 18mm tube scope, that he transported in a 24" package thrown in the back of Buell Frazier's car. Amazing how Oswald mastered the esoteric art of turning a 35" rifle stock into a 24" long compact break-down assassin system, complete with a quick-attach return-to-zero mount and scope, which he assembled covertly somewhere in the building. Sure, he dropped the barreled action into the wooden stock, tightened the action screws to exacting torque specs with his USMC Radar operator calibrated hands, and voila! Would you believe it? The carbine returned perfectly to zero that he confirmed at the Dallas Shooting Drome Range on the night of Sep 28, while he was in Mexico City screwing around with consulates trying to get a Visa into Cuba. When the motorcade rolled through, he carefully chose his moment to begin the target engagement sequence from the window, using his fresh 1954 CIA contract 160gr RNFMJ low antimony composition projectiles specifically made for the Agency, which were designed to rapidly fragment upon impact. Using rapid bolt manipulation techniques no School-trained USMC Scout Sniper has ever matched, he was able to get a quick shot register off the curb within the yellow kill zone paint brackets delineating the area where JFK would be engaged, adjusted his sight picture accordingly within 1 second, hit JFK in the back below his R scapula, hit Connally in the back, hit JFK through the front throat, and hit JFK through the front of his head. For anyone with a basic amount of firearms experience, you know this story is cursed bovine excrement. For starters, you aren't breaking down the rifle, reassembling it, and having your zero, especially a non-bedded surplus piece of trash that the FBI couldn't even zero after they shimmed it, then bought 4 other duplicate rifles and scopes to try to make it work, but never could. Posner is a effing retard. I could crush him for hours in debate about this, and would love for the opportunity to do so.

[@phonicwheel933]

@@LRRPFco52 _"Weird. Carlos Hathcock and all the senior Scout Sniper instructors could never duplicate the shots in the Quantico Urban village, using a 6.5 M38 Carcano carbine with scope... Posner is a effing retard. I could crush him for hours in debate about this, and would love for the opportunity to do so."_ Great post, written in classical CT style. You obviously feel strongly that Oswald could not have fired three shots from the 6th story of the TSBD, for the many reasons that you describe: the rifle and scope were not accurate enough, Oswald didn’t have sufficient skill, the range and angle made the shots impossible, the rifle could not be operated fast enough [to make three shots in 8.3 seconds], and Oswald could not have brought his rifle into the TSBD, because the curtain rod package was too short. There was also some sort of problem with the bullets, that was not clearly explained. But the overriding factor is that all the bullets that wounded JFK and governor Connally came from the front. It follows then that you would trash Posner’s book, which essentially supports the Warren Commission findings, and in true CT form, you then go on to gratuitously insult Posner himself, and brag about how you would crush him in a face to face debate. So the question is, what did happen at 12:30pm on the 22 November 1963, and who orchestrated it? Can you tell us and recommend a source for your scenario, an alternative book for example, or perhaps a website or movie?

[@DaveSCameron]

Defo a quegg

[@DaveSCameron]

Great book, if false and it's terribly clear who butters Gerald's bread. 🙏

[@shanet5604]

It’s an excellent book and torpedoes all the CT bullshit !!

[@DaveSCameron]

@@shanet5604 Not sure about this as it avoids plenty whilst cherry picking the weakest arguments and individuals however it is a very enjoyable and stimulating read and highly recommended to all. 🙏 📚

[@j.dragon651]

@@DaveSCameron not one argument has any facts, you want the facts, here they are.

[@DaveSCameron]

@@j.dragon651 appreciate the reply.

[@DaveSCameron]

04:50:00 Michael Paine was a little more than ".. Interested in politics..." working for Bell Helicopters /CIA and more shows again that Posner cherry 🍒 picks...

[@td4190]

Well the Oswald couldn't have been all that crazy if that was his opinion of Ike cuz let's face it definitely f***** over the common Man hes a good part of the reason for the crash

[@jason-ian-Van-Sloten]

James Sutton / Files was the shooter of the fatal headshot. Mercury filled fireball round from a Remington.

[@ronaldsimmons7638]

Files is a liar. A mercury filled slug in something as small as a .222 would destabilize the trajectory of the round, making it useless. Things like that work in James Bond movies, not in real life

[@johncooper7663]

In Files confession he stated that he and Oswald were shooting at the same time. You don't know much about this subject

[@ronaldsimmons7638]

Prove it

[@Garymayo]

Nonsense. Fiction. Research your opinion.

[@jefftomasello3258]

Bigfoot fired from the grassy knoll!

[@halwarner3326]

This is a very good book as well as Vincent Bugliosi's book.

[@geoffreyjohnstone5465]

Give Di Eugenio's Reclaiming Parkland a read, it rips Bugliosi's book to shreds.

[@michaelivey1087]

hal warner might be a good book, but it's just a rehash of the Warren Commission Fiction,

[@johnadams5489]

@@michaelivey1087 Another conspiracy kook that spins one liners about an investigation that you don't want to believe.

[@michaelivey1087]

@@johnadams5489 I would suggest that you are the kook. I have read and tried to study everything i can possibly get my hands on including thWarren report. While i agree with Mr. Adams that there are some really stupid theories(Like the driver or a secret service in a backup car, absolutely insane). It is just as Insane to think that the Warren Commission got it right. They didnt on purpose. By the directio. Of most likely, LBJ. But to say the Single Bullet theory is correct, more Insanity. Not looking to argue. But, if Oswald was involved, he didnt do ot by himself!

[@michaelivey1087]

@@johnadams5489 By the way, I want to believe the W.C, just makes no sense. No way I would vote to convict him at trial. Based on this evidence, no way.

[@bobokicks]

First, find out about Jack Ruby's movements on Nov 24. I had believed in conspiracy for years until I became aware of the facts. These are facts that even the most fervent believer in conspiracy can't deny: Ruby's whereabouts at 10:00 am (the announced time of Oswald's move to the city jail); the phone call from one of his dancers (Karen Bennett, aka "Little Lynn"); his trip into Dallas with his dog, Sheba; his waiting in line at the Western Union office to make the wire transfer; the timestamp on the transfer document (11:17 am). Once you realize that Ruby could not possibly have been hired by the conspirators to "silence" Oswald, you can't help but wonder why a sensationalist media and an avid conspiracy community never mentions these details. The reason is simple: they don't want you to start thinking. Know the facts, and the "conspiracy" house of cards will quickly come tumbling down at your feet.

[@bobokicks]

ps - never get into an argument with a hardcore believer in conspiracy, especially a social media/chat forum argument. It will drive you bonkers.

[@ryans756]

You might need to help me out here because I fail to see how your details remove the possibility that Ruby was ordered to take Oswald out during the conspiracists' planning phase. For example: Day 1 - They trick Oswald into thinking he just needs to do one thing (hide a gun behind some boxes and get the hell out of there) and they'll recognise his greatness and give him a job at the Agency. Day 2 - They order Ruby to find Oswald after the assassination (carried out by whoever on the grassy knoll) and kill him. Day 3 (day of the Assassination) - Oswald places the rifle as instructed and panics when the actual assassin/s kill JFK. Ruby fails to locate Oswald. Oswald, confused, perhaps expecting a car to pick him up, perhaps a car being driven by Ruby, tries to hide until his new CIA (or whoever) friends find him and pick him up to take him to safety. Day 4 - Desperate not to fail his controllers, Ruby, in front of the fucking MEDIA and POLICE, shoots Oswald. Day 5 - The plan, while not going as smoothly as intended, is a success. JFK is dead, Oswald gets the blame. That's a win. Your timeline of events doesn't seem to negate the possibility I just laid out.

[@j.dragon651]

They are in it for the money and there is a gullible audience to take them up on it.

[@camoss3724]

@@ryans756 The problem I find with your scenario is Ruby killed Oswald nearly two days after the assassination. If Oswald was to be silenced, would the conspirators really have waited until he had been interrogated by police for some 36 hours? If there was a hit to be carried out on Oswald, he would never have made it out of Dealey Plaza alive. If someone wanted Oswald dead, Jack Ruby would have been the last person they'd have entrusted with the task. He was the type of guy who, if he knew something, couldn't get a block away without telling someone. He just couldn't keep his mouth shut.

[@thomasraftery409]

The way Ruby acted when in Police custody after he shot Oswald Accordingly he was sweating and restless. When informed by the Police that Oswald had died he lightened up took a cigarette even through he didn't smoke and was not fazed even when they told h he would get the Chair. Odd behaviour. Ruby had to silence Oswald on someone's orders or forfeit his life.

[@chuckhauser6336]

The greatest fiction ever told, Case Closed

[@alinlou9236]

Check all please

[@DaveSCameron]

The Butler with the lead pipe in the drawing room...

[@bohemiancorporal]

Jeeves

[@goodgood9955]

LOL! Good one.

[@paystarbuzzy]

@@DaveSCameron prying lies out from the front of the truth is what's charming. Watching karma blow Unholy Hell back on to the Institutions that made this happen; that, too is charming. Our country did this to itself. We got to look in the mirror and acknowledge the sickness before everything good about this country goes away. But me, charming?, maybe to you, baby. But to single-bullet suckasses like John Adams,Terms of Service or Randy Harris, I AM A CANTANKEROUS CUNT!!!

[@paystarbuzzy]

@@DaveSCameron hypersaucy comment deleted and right back at ya from San Marcos (that's Lyndon's old stomping ground,) in the garden spot of the THC (Texas Hill Country,) Matey! Happy Shakespeare's Birthday (and date of death, as well) this coming Thursday, April 23!

[@paystarbuzzy]

What goes around comes around and the Oil & Gas industry "went around" the backs of Mr. and Mrs. Joe America to foment and subsequently get richer than Hell off the Vietnam War. Now families dependent on West Texas Oil Patch income are suffering. And gasoline prices just continue to tumble. That is Old Lady Payback just a doing her thing, people. She's a bitch. And her stripper name is "Karma."

[@general_burkhalter]

Oswald = Lone Assassin....No Conspiracy !!

[@miryamhmagdala4034]

General Burkhalter *#TREAS**😈N....*

[@georgesciblojr1517]

I do believe the FBI and the CIA didn't try real hard to keep him safe

[@geoffreyjohnstone5465]

Can you prove that? Reliable witness that saw him shooting? Proof he fireda rifle that day? Proof that rifle was fired that day? Proof he took a rifle to work that day? Where did he hide it that day that would keep it from everyone but allow him instant, unseen access? If it was that good no one saw it all morning, why didnt he just put it back there after he supposedly shot JFK? Its dead easy to say he took it to work even though no one saw him with it. Frazier and Randle say he didnt have the large package Its dead easy to say he was identified by Brennan. Brennan described someone different wearing different clothes and failed to pick him out that evening. Its dead easy to say he fired a rifle. Tests showed no nitrates on his cheek casts Its easy to say he fired that rifle. Tests were not even carried out to see if the rifle had recently been fired Its easy to say he hid the rifle. Tell us where You ask anyone that thinks it was a conspiracy to name names, where they where, how many shots etc but you havent answered any questions yourselves. Its not enough to say a dozen doctors are wrong, most of the witnesses are wrong and loads of documents produced by senior FBI officials are wrong. I dont expect a reasoned, sensible answer in fact I dont expect an answer at all for you. Your reputation precedes you

[@geoffreyjohnstone5465]

@Snaggle Toothed Thats hearsay. Never been under the scrutiny of cross examination or defence council experts. If what someone says constitues proof then there are plenty of witnesses that said 2 shots came on top of each other, shot from the knoll area and a large blowout in the right rear of JFKs head. I have read the volumes of the Warren Report and they most certainly do not equal the conclusions laid out in its report. Like I was trying to say, talk is cheap. Evidence has to be authenticated, have a full, unbroken chain of custody and be scrutinised and validated by defence team experts. Then it would be up to a jury of the accused peers to decide on his guilt. Try writing a list of things that show Lee Harvey Oswald was guilty that would also get in to a genuine trial. Give it a whirl

[@georgesciblojr1517]

@Snaggle Toothed what i meant was i do believe they heard static of people conspiring to kill the president. And they did not notify the SS .

[@maryjaneblues7712]

Oswald did it.The end.

[@9Ballr]

A much shorter book!

[@phonicwheel933]

*_@maryjaneblues7712_* Well said.

[@DaveSCameron]

Are you serious 😂

[@kyleeverett7059]

"Oppressive Washington summers."... I'm from south Mississippi that's hard to believe

[@jesse75]

Case is closed ?

[@DaveSCameron]

😂😂😂

[@9Ballr]

Yes, it closed on November 24th, 1963.

[@tankman5]

The book the conspiracy kooks cannot ignore!!!

[@ronmarvicsin7709]

Oh it’s easy to ignore it. It’s just laughable that anyone buys the book. Try reading Best Evidence that’s the one you’ll can’t handle

[@phonicwheel933]

*_@tankman5_* You spoke too soon.👆

[@wallykatny]

Best evidence makes donald duck a real person. Fool.

[@danieleyre8913]

Unfortunately they do.