Cast Testing Tsurinoya Dark Wolf 50 BFS Reel

[@greenie915]

I *Need* those small walking baits. I have so much luck with them in the fall. Pickerel and Bass love them.

[@rawrfishing]

I wouldn't mind throwing that at NBL at the fall.. but right now, how does it look? weeded up?

[@chuelee7201]

I think that sound is your braid line coming off the spool a little too fast for the lure to pull out and it ends up slapping against the frame of the reel killing your distance.

[@rawrfishing]

You know what, I thought of that too. We shall see how it goes when I respool with some copolymer...

[@НикитаАльбертович-ы9о]

Great visibility! What is the minimum and maximum lure weight this reel can support? thanks for the answer

[@rawrfishing]

i would say 2 grams and up. I don't know the max. But as you have seen, the 1/16th oz jig didn't do too well.

[@rawskullx]

Are you looking to try the Black Knight bfs reel? Apparently it comes with stock hybrid ceramic bearings

[@rawrfishing]

I thought about it but I don't think i am. It was a great move on their end as those are not that expensive if they can get it in bulk. I bought mine in bulk as a consumer and got them 2 dollars a piece. Imagine they buying it by the thousands. Could be a dollar or less a piece. I believe the reel test did it already so I will pass on this one. 3 bfs reel in one season already.

[@rawskullx]

@@rawrfishing sorry if I sound new, but are any of the budget bfs reels you used able to be used in saltwater? How do you tell if the reel is saltwater ready?

[@rawrfishing]

For BFS? i don't fish saltwater like that, so my knowledge on saltwater BFS reels are pretty much non-existence. sorry :(

[@wanzhaf932]

hello...may i know bearing size on the spool and drag?....for dark wolf 50

[@rawrfishing]

I believe they are Bearing sizes: 5x10x4 & 3x10x4

[@wanzhaf932]

@@rawrfishing thanks.......btw....clean your thick greasy oem bearing with zippo fluid (oily fast dry), put a drop of it spin the bearing SLOWLY/BARELY., blow bearing with camera lens blower, once dry put a drop of thin quality oil.....u will notice some performance increase while waiting for full ceramic bearing to be available.....might help u....its work great for me....

[@rawrfishing]

@@wanzhaf932 let me tell you what I am waiting for. .. my spool replacement lol. I broke my pin remover on this guy -_- not happy!

[@wanzhaf932]

@@rawrfishing its 6 months ago....😱

[@rawrfishing]

@@wanzhaf932 they had no spares and wasn't willing to send one from a working reel. Then when they sent one it never came. Thx covid 19!

[@noobpyrotech9991]

Would you suggest this dark wolf or the XF-50? I am looking to add to my BFS line up. I already have the Zephyr.

[@rawrfishing]

XF-50 is not a BFS reel, more of a Long Cast reel as stated in my previous comment. Dark wolf 50 is okay, but the Dark Wolf Ultra is their best and most UL BFS Reel Tsurinoya have. In fact, probably the most UL BFS Reel out currently on the CDM world

[@lorenzoborseti1227]

Ciao amico ti seguo sempre con piacere anche se non conosco l inglese...sapresti dirmi secondo te quali sono i migliori mulinelli da bfs low cost su Aliexpress da te recensiti? Con quanti max grammi possono lanciare senza problemi per i freni? 15/20gr ?

[@rawrfishing]

I appreciate watching my videos even though we have a communication gap. I don't think you would be looking for a BFS reel if you want to throw 15-20 gram lures. I would use mid-spool to standard size spool. But if you want a good reel out of the box to cast light lures, This is a great candidate if you clean the stock grease off the bearings and apply your own thinner oil for bearings. Alternative would be the KastKing Zephyr if it ever returns back on sale. It's been sold out each time it got restocked. I have seen the MegaJaws come out with a shallow and a medium spool... could potentially something you may want to look at. The MegaJaws BFS reel isn't going to be better than the Zephyr, but the mid-shallow spool for long cast might be something that most people want!

[@arcuriotv6894]

I like 6lb Jbraid the 8 carrier for all my bfs reels. Gliss in 8lbs works really well. Gamma braid in 6lbs is 🔥 as well. I find anything over 8lbs is just not great on my bfs reels.

[@rawrfishing]

I wanna try gliss! i heard so much about those. Pricey but i think i'll give it a try!

[@arcuriotv6894]

Yes those lines are a little pricey!! But honestly they perform so well and on the bfs stuff ,as your surely aware many things can become magnified, so having quality product really helps out. Also the longevity of those lines are very good, so essentially they help offset the cost at least in my mind. Keep up the good work!!

[@rawrfishing]

I may get some. i think i saw some at TW... i need to buy another rod from there so i'll throw that in the cart too!

[@sgtpavlov]

I guess I haven't been in a store in a long while, and it doesn't seem to feel like there's a shortage of gear. I can find fishing line I need on amazon or ebay, without much trouble. Pretty recently, I got a zviber and zspender, but I haven't tried them out yet. Got some other plastics as well, and some other stuff is going to arrive tomorrow in the mail.

[@rawrfishing]

i go here and there. hard to make content when you gotta wait for something in the mail lol. but man it's pretty empty at Walmart or dicks sporting goods! The z viber is an ice jig, i found it more effective vertical jigging it than casting and retrieving but it's a fun lure. i use it primarily for cast testing and nothing else during the warmer season lol. the spender tho, it's pretty cool, i trout fish with it earlier this year and landed a few.

[@sgtpavlov]

@@rawrfishing thing is, amazon prime ships in 2-3 days, sometimes arrives in 2 days. So you're not really waiting that long, so long as you order things fulfilled by amazon prime. Now, if you're fishing every day, I guess I could see what you mean. But you could always just use something you already have, until what you ordered arrives. Funny thing, I've got a growing pile of fishing things I've ordered over the weeks, here and there, that I need to go try soon lol. Haven't been out fishing in awhile. My health isn't all that great, and I been feeling kind of tired, and lacking energy. I like the slightly cooler weather, like the spring and fall best.

[@rawrfishing]

yeah that is true. I am pretty spontaneous sometimes. work, new baby and wife, then fishing, making videos while fishing, and then video editing and then planning for future videos. As you see, the agenda is pretty full... so sometimes i leave out the most important things and just gotta make a quick run for something. Plus, when i visit family and i cross the state borders and i see tax free opportunity.. it's me! lol diapers cost too much so i gotta save every little penny when i pay toll to cross the bridge.

[@finessefishing3870]

Do you have the sizes of the bearings? On the spool and in the side plate? I’ve ordered the reel after watching your review and now I’m searching for bearings to upgrade ;) Thank you so much for the great videos - keep them coming!

[@rawrfishing]

I made an assumption but until i can take my spool pin off, i don't wanna say i am certain. if you seen my unboxing video, my pin was bent and won't come out >_

[@finessefishing3870]

raWr Fishing , mine should arrive till the end of this month. If you haven’t found the dimensions by then I’ll share :) A solution you can try for the pin is to twist it with the pliers, but you risk breaking it. Hope Tsurinoya will cooperate and will send you a new spool!

[@rawrfishing]

they were a tough cookie. they first blamed my pliers... but after i went off at them they somewhat rescind their remark and retracted their blame on my end. SO we shall see! i gotta follow up maybe every two weeks to see when they have it in stock

[@rawrfishing]

So... since they said they will send me a new spool... i man handled my current spool and got the pin out. Confirmed gh100 and dark wolf uses same sizes

[@finessefishing3870]

raWr Fishing , great news ;) thank you so much for the feedback! I’ll order some of the ray’s studio’s bearings. Can’t wait for your next video with the upgrades- what have you planned?

[@xaviermartinez774]

So if you had to pick one budget bfs reel which would it be?

[@rawrfishing]

Zephyr lol... but waiiiiiiit.... new video dropping soon!

[@xaviermartinez774]

@@rawrfishing been looking for a left handed zephyr. No luck yet

[@rawrfishing]

Delayed restocking due to my feedback! You can blame me lol... sorry

[@Larseyful]

Hello! Nice to se casting video o a vareity of lures on this reel. The braid was not behaving nicely on that reel, but as you said you have used same on other reels without issue... I have had the best result with stiff hard braids like fireline ultra8 6lb, Nanofil 6lb and duel armored F+ in pe 0.8 to 1.0 when using braid for bfs. The casting brakes on the gh100 iteration reels should have an advantage over the static mag brake on the others like spirit fox etc, but there could be other factors... I hope you will do a casting comparison between them when you get your preferred bearings and line. Tight lines.

[@rawrfishing]

Yeah i felt that the line was smacking the spool a few times too. As another comment have indicated, that odd sound could been the line over spooling and smacking the reel body. Probably need to go back to mono for now or copolymer. Yeah I can't wait to get a new spool but tsurinoya said they do not have spares yet and they are not willing to take one out of another reel. So it will be a while! I guess I will play with zephyr instead.

[@gangstakoen]

Hey man, Love the BFS vids! Which reel do you prefer more: Dark Wolf or Spirit Fox?

[@rawrfishing]

I love bfs! Hmmm... Probably the spiritfox for now but build wise I know dark wolf will be better. I just need to replace the bearings. But it's still too soon to say! I will have to play with it longer

[@gangstakoen]

@@rawrfishing appreciate the quick response! What about comparing both these reels to the KastKing Zephyr...what do you think?

[@rawrfishing]

Out of the box Zephyr wins! The FTB brakes supposed to be good tho. So once I change line and bearings we will try again. I hope it will be good

[@johnhanes3450]

You are making me go broke lol. I ordered a spirit fox after watching one of your videos. Then got the Strike King new BFS and before all that the GH100. Just fished the GH100 tonight with a Euro Tackle jerk bait. 6 bass and a massive panfish!

[@rawrfishing]

lol i try to use the most budget friendly rods/reels to make videos, else i'll be broke too! I can easily get one JDM reel and it would likely perform awesome! but more people would be willing to use a cheaper reel, especially because BFS fishing tackle just starting to blow up and folks just want to get their feet wet.. like me! Just keep playing with what u got. btw.. what is this strike king BFS? O_o they make lures no?

[@davydeceuninck273]

easy way to flush is break cleaner spray couple off times on the bearing. spin it u wiil see it works very good without opening the bearing . we use diameter to mesure braid. i prefer to use 0.06 to 0.10 MM diameter the smaller the beter

[@rawrfishing]

I use brake cleaner as well! Works great!👍 But the purpose of the video is to see how the reel performs out of the box before i do any tuning. Thx for the line suggestion! I rarely use braided line but will have to explore more for my BFS journey 🙏

[@mojondro]

I use 6 pounds braid from China,the piscifun onyx in white with a hybrid leader from 10 pounds to 30 pounds depending on where im fishing and I already have caught some really big tarpon in the 15 pounds range and snooze in the 10 pounds and I can tell you that you're focusing way to much on distance when bfs is more important the accuracy of the cast, remember when you fish with really shallow spools what good is to cast more than 60 percentage of your line, I never try to cast that far,at least not in my secret spot where i know there are really big fish

[@rawrfishing]

I boycott Piscifun because they stole my video before. But if it works for you that's great! I think i focus on accuracy more than you think. After all, being an advocate for more people to use BFS gears, i tell people accuracy and efficiency are the two primary things casting reels have over spinning. But we can't deny that every one wants distance before accuracy. With that said, my videos i talk about both casting distance and accuracy. This is why i confirm my casting stance in some of my casting.

[@mojondro]

@@rawrfishing i have an angler Saito style of fishing without the absolute casting proficiency of that monster of a fisherman,at least not yet but soon I hope to be very very good with my accuracy,im from Puerto Rico,a small island cris cross with a million of small rivers and creeks and as a tropical paradise we have a plethora of species in our waters from peacock bass to the humble mountain mullet in the 2 pounds range and those are really fun to catch as they fight like a trout then we have the estuaries and there is where the fun is with snook up to 40 plus pounds and the king, tarpon up to 190 plus pounds but I don't target those with bfs obviously the weather here is well a tropical island so I can fish 365 days so nothing to complain and planing on to change line soon,i found one in Ali that is promising,the sea knight nano

[@rawrfishing]

we will all become saito one day! lol. i am playing with some spiral/flip casts lately. Wouldn't mind going to PR for some stream fishing. I was in Hawaii and they introduced smallies there. super fun! I had a freaking coconut float down towards me.. i tried cracking it open.. didn't work... so i kept fishing LOL

[@ratapolkanop7439]

I order slow speed reel from Aliex.For texas rig softbait and bullet weight total 4-7g. 1.kastking royale legend II.used with mono 15 lb 0.33mm 2.tsu darkwolf used with mono 8 lb 0.23mm Kastking cast better than darkwolf in any style of casting ,low backlash,easy tune,long distant,good break,and half price of tsu DW.Except anti reverse is very poor quality for Kastking.I suggest for test this reel.

[@rawrfishing]

cool man! i don't have plans to test the KK RL 2 at the moment, but could be something to consider in the future :) budget got depleted haha.

[@ratapolkanop7439]

freeimage.host/i/31QREv I solved break problem with cotton budd stick to disable dynamic break.Now cast like a bullet,no backlash,can control cast very well. Thank, comment about darkknight reel from THE REEL TEST.

[@rawrfishing]

@@ratapolkanop7439 oh cool. so now it's just regular magnetic braking lol.

[@ratapolkanop7439]

From raWr Fishing comment,I test left one side for original dynamic and another for static (shim to high level magnatic) also good result,Now i have two system in one.555 lol,,,

[@narkqesse3606]

its pretty much expected, gh100 perform way much better than this dark wolf reel, the reason you constantly get backlash with dark wolf is because of spool dimension which is inner diameter of dark wolf spool are a little bit larger than gh100 creating weak braking cause the length of inner diameter to magnet became more further than what it used to be (cause tsurinoya just slap gh100 ftb brake to dark wolf without changing ftb brake dimension), you can fix this problem by adding 8 magnet on top of it just like avail magnet kit or change it to stronger magnet. Honestly, i dont recommend you to "super tuned" dark wolf, its not worthy cause of weight of the spool is 10g, if you want to super tuned china oem reel, better go with gh100 because the weigh of the spool is 8+g and its the lightest spool among other china bfs reel. The secret of casting light lure is mostly depend on spool weight, reel line guide distance ....bearing doesn't contribute too much when casting light lure (good normal working bearing does the job pretty much the same as using "micro bearing") but i do recommend changing to lighter bearing (full ceramic is lighter than hybrid/micro) so that you can shave off the weight of spool. Basically, if you super tuned gh100 (dremel gh100 spool to sub 6g weight, lighter full ceramic bearing, wide & further 3d print reel line guide hole), you gonna get poor man aldebaran bfs (perform better than stock 2016 aldebaran bfs but doesnt last longer)

[@rawrfishing]

oh i see. i would never super tune a GH100 tho. as you mentioned, it's too much work and the quality assurance for the reel is pretty bad. I was lucky not to have a mechanically not functioning one when it was first released, unlike many others. I cleaned the reel and lubricated it and it's working okay with some bearing changes, but still, it can't out perform my other reels. but if you actually done all that to your GH100.. but kudos to you lol.

[@narkqesse3606]

@@rawrfishing i done all that to my gh100, my gh100 finally gave up last season (spool collapsed probably because i dremel it too much) after few fishing trip. lol

[@rawrfishing]

@@narkqesse3606 lol good lord! At least u can say u did it lol. It would be interesting to see if the alde spool fits the gh100. If so.. buy an aftermarket one:o

[@michaelfoster5044]

Spiderwire 8x 15 pound line

[@rawrfishing]

Stiffer braided would be best for these shallow spools! Also strong too

[@michaelfoster5044]

I dint know that i been trying to get the thinest lines darn

[@rawrfishing]

So after discussing and thinking about it, did u remember that weird sound while casting? The flimsy braid folded on itself when it over spooled and kept smacking my reel.

[@michaelfoster5044]

Yeah had to brake in the line both the speed demon pro and gh100 made that sound after a few days of fishing it goes away

[@michaelfoster5044]

Yeah had to brake in the line both the speed demon pro and gh100 made that sound after a few days of fishing it goes away