Castle Super Beast Clips: Anthem Review

[@arempy5836]

This whole podcast can be divided into 3 hour-long chunks. -Computer problems -Anthem problems -Woolie's soul problems

[@Caidezes]

@@92deadbodyman Close. A Titanfall (3) shaped hole.

[@DemPop]

Woolie's soul problems was one of the best podcast segments they've had in a long time

[@Raven_Frame]

Woolie’s soul problems? I think that should be everyone’s soul problems.

[@lifeiscrap103]

@@Raven_Frame The Battle for -Everyone's- Woolie's Soul.

[@Zantetsu13]

Kinda dissappointed they didn't touch on the Metro shitstorm Deep silver whipped up with epic.

[@danherondraws]

I love these bit sized clips! So easy to consume, so light!

[@BeePuncher]

These are 'Merican portions. You'll not be leaving hungry.

[@pyrorecipelist2]

You say that like its a joke.

[@KeroKaminaX]

we need to re-evaluate your definition of "clip" woolie

[@andrewsandoval2409]

no we dont keep em coming. after watching the podcast live and then listening to it again at work, i come home and watch these "clips" and its still not enough.

[@SoaringLettuce]

Nope. No, we do not.

[@demondton96]

And the amount of ads

[@GreedAndSelfishness]

Do I still need to pay the full stream videos?If yes, then no, no we dont.

[@Just_Matty]

No we don't, let him do his thing.

[@N00BSYBORG]

I can't wait to play a dumbed down Frankenstein's monster of Warframe and Destiny with a $60 buy-in, less content, more grind and overpriced microtransactions.

[@WonderGamer101]

I knew I wasn't the only one who thought it was a Frankenstein's monster!

[@N00BSYBORG]

@@WonderGamer101 Pat pointed it out too and its pretty blatant. The game is cynically made. You can tell EA wanted it to be like those games because they've seen how lucrative they are.

[@RF9431]

Just jam a fat fucking syringe full of boring in my arm and kick me down some stairs

[@warzone822]

Real talk though in all fairness warframe has a ton of content once they decided to expand the story and open areas

[@N00BSYBORG]

@@NeightrixPrime I know Warframe has grind but it doesn't feel like an artificially padded shitfest. This is EA we're talking about. They absolutely will pull an Activision and fuck with the number values to make the grind as long and tedious as possible to drive microtransaction sales. There also isn't a market in Anthem, unlike Warframe. So you're stuck with garbage you don't want if you get "unlucky." Which you will. Ergo, you're gonna be grinding more in Anthem.

[@bellboy64]

I'm fine with the hour-long "snippets". Saves Solidus the work, :P

[@cytorakdemon]

EA wants Anthem to sell 10 million units in the first two weeks in order to be considered a success. That ain't happening for a game out of Bioware's wheelhouse, post Battlefront 2 controversy, and a Destiny clone that boils down to be "alright". EA just told Bioware to make Destiny with the EA brand and sell more than Red Dead 2. The saddest part is, if this was being made by Ubisoft instead of EA, it might have a chance to get better because Ubisoft has that rep of sticking with games that suck at launch and staying with them to fix them, we saw that with the Division and For Honor. EA dropped Mass Effect Andromeda like 6 months after launch and cancelled all it's DLC plans because "eh, nobody likes it", so I seriously doubt EA will keep Anthem alive long enough to get better.

[@dantr14]

@@NeightrixPrime yea it's a destiny AND warframe clone mixed together rather poorly

[@xxxmachsevenxxx2440]

@@dantr14 Nah, it really isn't a good comparison to Destiny though. There are guns and rpg mechanics, but the similarities mostly stop there. The camera is third vs. first person, the controls and gunplay feel nothing alike, the leveling system as of the demo is not even close to similar (and frankly, quite trash as of now), and the enemies are all too much of a bullet-sponge. I agree with Pat, it really is a better comparison to The Division. If they did Anthem right, it will at least have a bit more compelling game play by endgame.

[@dantr14]

@@xxxmachsevenxxx2440 so destiny with a jet pack then?

[@Reqqqqqs]

Fuck, didn’t even think of that. I have sorta looked at Anthem as “eh, maybe I’ll pick it when it gets the inevitable overhaul that makes it good”, I completely forgot that it’s published by EA who doesn’t do those kinds of overhauls.

[@kielbasamage]

So they're loading another Dead Space 3 bullet in their gun and pulling Destiny behind the farmhouse?

[@RennyNanaya]

58:00 That uncooked steak analogy is made more terrible in that just after the podcast I learned a nearby restaurant has a specialty where they bring out your steak on a scorching hot Rock so you can cook it yourself to your liking. So yeah... There are people that do pay top dollar to literally cook their own meal at the table.

[@JoseRS1186]

Hey, don't knock SoaR. It's for people who like all the stages of steak. You can eat the whole rainbow, from BloodyRaw to pink to cardboard brown. I get the comparison, but people who fall for that gimmick usually don't get the idea of Steak on a Rock. They wait for it to be to their liking and then get mad when the steak is only "good" for a few minutes. Don't order Steak on a Rock unless you like all or most of the stages of steak. Don't order Anthem unless you like...I don't know...broken games? I feel the more apt comparison would be steak on a dustpan. Wherein the waiter continuously serves up a marginally less dust and hair coated slab of cold steak till, eventually, you get an actual serviceable meal or the restaurant closes down for good. Whichever comes first. Probably the later.

[@RennyNanaya]

@@JoseRS1186 I just find it an odd dining experience. Wouldn't it be pretty functionally similar to just cooking steak at home by then? But I'm not really here to debate the merits of cuisine, I just thought the proximity of these two pieces of information was comical.

[@regularspecial1]

@@RennyNanaya well chances are those cuts of meat are extremely expensive and you are generally purchasing the experience as well right? like you could ask the same question, why would anyone want to go to a comedian? just make yourself laugh eateries usually invest a bit of money into getting the connections to do that kind of thing (again its usually a very expensive meat) so its a lot more nuanced then someone cooking their own meat

[@RennyNanaya]

@@regularspecial1 that's a terrible point. I don't have the perspective or wit to create the insightful commentary to create a humorous commentary. Nor do I have the skill to cook a high quality cut of meat properly. They don't even provide an internal thermometer, so I can't even pretend to know I cooked it right.

[@regularspecial1]

@@RennyNanaya you don't need skill to leave a piece of meat on a heated rock and take cuts as you please. look, if you still have any left over money from our stimulus checks i would highly suggest just spending $100 on a nice resteraunt on your own and ordering something like this to get the real world experience of something instead of over-analyizing it on a forum right? one of these is gonna lead you to make judgements about something without really understanding the context. its literally fundamental attribute error.jpg not even touching upon the fact that if you seriously cannot just leave a 8oz cut of meat on a rock and let it cook to your own liking, i think we're starting to get into statements about you and not people who pay top dollar to make their own meal.

[@TheKrawtch]

BioWare and Respawn might get buried in the same grave if EA times it right

[@N00BSYBORG]

If they're really good they can even save money by hitting them both with the same bullet.

[@TheKrawtch]

@@N00BSYBORG why pay for a bullet when you can just starve them to death for free

[@xsoultillerx]

people have been saying bioware is going to end up in the EA grave pits for years now. I'll believe it when it actually happens.

[@aaronkling344]

Anybody here remember Westwood Studios Inc? ...anybody? Just me? Ohhhhh...

[@geekdoms]

Apex Legends is actually fun, but its not gonna be nearly as big as fortnite which is what EA wants

[@skieth9999]

Here's my issue with Anthem: >Every aspect of its visual and mechanical design feels done by committee; it feels like a more brain-dead, less tactical version of ME2 or ME3. >PC build is broken as fuck, Bioware can't optimize the Frostbite engine to not take up 100% of my CPU apparently. >Every ability and combo is just targeted towards doing more and more damage. There are some variants in the way damage is dealt and distributed but... >None of the enemy designs properly take advantage of those ability's unique aspects. >The aspect of these suits being mechanized IronMan suits never seems capitalized upon. The Javelins might as well just be jetpacks because there's nothing in the abilities that makes it feel like the Freelancers are that much stronger than your average person. The super strength and speed that these suits should provide is never really implemented in the kits. Why is the Ranger's melee on cooldown? Shouldnt it be able to swing the thing like a whiffle bat if the suit is granting some level of super strength

[@yewwowduck]

>1 hour clip Why not just put up the whole podcast (really, why not)

[@Goutyard]

I think they have a twitch exclusivity deal or some shit

[@TDShadow079]

Also probably to get good traction on the new site.

[@fourseamSeal]

Why not check the website to find out? ;)

[@SoaringLettuce]

Cuz spotify, itunes and the rest would lose traffic and youtube is getting harder to monetize.

[@gameb9oy]

TDShadow079 if he can put up an hour “clip” of the podcast, the 20 minute clips of most of his current playthroughs are actually insults

[@SoaringLettuce]

With everyone asking "why not the whole podcast?", I'm pretty sure if they upload the whole thing on youtube then itunes, spotify, google, etc wouldn't get traffic and probably drop them. That'd be pretty bad with the monetization disaster that is youtube right now.

[@fadedLotuz]

Ok...can someone explain to me how Woolie's hair did that at 46:49? was that a glitch in the matrix? he just leans back a bit and the dread jumps. I've been replaying that bit over 5 minutes now.

[@JoseRS1186]

Great. Now I'm doing it

[@SergioSource]

he's medusa confirmed

[@pieranyx9506]

fadedLotuz omg WTF

[@fadedLotuz]

@@pieranyx9506 I need to know! Someone call Woolie!

[@pieranyx9506]

fadedLotuz it like FLIES UPWARDS. I initially thought a fan or something but nO what is happening!?!

[@XanderCottrell]

wouldnt mind jsut watching the whole thing, i usually miss it live

[@AlfredoTaken]

If you subscribe on twitch you get access to the vods

[@captainrish3818]

Hour long single conversation uploads are good. You guys are just mean

[@Saramusvasque2838]

Woolie! Dont listen to them! An hour long clip is good! You've done it before. Do whatever, even the complainers will still watch them.

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

Man remember when a game would come out complete for 60$ and if it did well enough they'd make another one

[@conspiracypanda1200]

Mmmm recieving these 1 hour long clips like going to a fancy restaurant and expecting them to hand you those cliche little appetizer lookin scams but instead they just SLAM a plate on the table thats bigger than your god damn head! Like, you gotta cancel your plans for the rest of the day B I G (Edit) Re-reading this I realise that it's silly to compare this podcast to a fancy restaurant. Lots of other podcasts can be compared like that, but Super Castle Beast is definitely a pub. This is a pub meal.

[@fanguchiha194]

A giant plate of fries, covered in cheese with wings hidden inside the pile

[@EggBastion]

When's Woolie killed TitanFall3?

[@flooboo1502]

"This game needed 6 more months in the oven, and it's being shoved out for the quarter." This quote aged like fine wine, looking at you Cyberpunk 2077.

[@originalscreenname44]

Anthem is going to be a disappointment, but Apex Legends is going to be EA's cash cow. They're going to turn every game they have into battle royale regardless of whether it fits or not. Prepare for Madden Royale and FIFA Royale.

[@manjackson2772]

sports royale makes too much sense though

[@manjackson2772]

66 men on the field and three balls, you lose a man each time your goal is scored in, if you get to just the goalie your team is out the closing in walls are represented by the goals being brought closer and each team dropping a man

[@xenonecromera]

So, I wanted a Tf3 badly. I still play Tf2 every day and hate BR games. I gave Apex a chance...it's actually a solid, solid game with real effort put in. I'm surprised and disappointed because I wanted to hate it.

[@FlippyMcGiantDad]

@@xenonecromera I am MIFFED it doesn't have the freedom of movement, but it's a solid game on it's own. There's enough TF blood in it to be interesting, without making it way too hard for the casual gamer. Feels like an acceptable medium between skill required and mass appeal, though they could work on those visuals.

[@realbattleonfilm8299]

WWE Battle Royale (Rumble)

[@JerZeyCJ]

Someone on twitter: "hey Pat, how long will the shitting on anthem portion of the podcast last?" Pat on twitter: "I dunno, around five minutes?" Pat on the podcast: *one hour long review*

[@scooda]

>Handshakes It was a different time

[@Ike_of_pyke]

51:30 will say no man's sky "its good now" patch was the building off the several patches, as unlike most "it's tweaked" here and there, no man's sky added shit and added shit then it tied it up to a nice bow.

[@vikingdeath1]

28:34 I love when Woolie gets all up in arms over other people being weirded out by his french pronunciations. The curse of having a mostly United States-based audience.

[@acezar2644]

"clip" i would like the entire episodes please

[@waypastthenorm8629]

Get a good handshake.... well that aged well

[@kekula69]

Huh

[@waypastthenorm8629]

@kekula69 honestly don't remember why I said that. Maybe something about social distancing idk.

[@kekula69]

@waypastthenorm8629 it's 2024, people handshake with their dicks now

[@MrGeremyTibbles]

I feel like the biggest issue with "it'll get fixed in a year", is that EA's very beholden to their share holders and has shown zero hesitation to just outright kill a project if it's not making the money they want, and they tend to have astronomically over inflated projections for their games.

[@wolfen9113]

The longest anyone has spent talking about anthem

[@pirateking56128]

It looks like Woolie is the video game guy talking games, and Pat looks like an old man on his front porch politely listening to the young man.

[@tychoazrephet3794]

Everyone think of it this way: Watching this hour long "clip" of Castle Super Beasts is far more productive use of your time than watching the State of the Union address.

[@gameb9oy]

It’s longer than an hour when you take into account the ads... like my word Woolie

[@Aqua-wc2bk]

ended up back on this after seeing that anthem was being sold for a penny.

[@ldw_sparky]

28:40 Whoa, calm down there, Gashkwuan!

[@DotDusk]

Hot flame, lean back. Lean back!

[@RicochetForce]

I really felt for Woolie when he talked about broader trends going out of their way to fuck over people's niche interests. Especially in gaming.

[@TheScheckig]

I like the full length video uploads.

[@MidgarMerc]

1/3 of the podcast is not a "clip"

[@Drawersama]

New podcast new rules.

[@onimaxblade8988]

Theyve always did big clips for big topics like, say, RE2 though. To be fair to them.

[@MidgarMerc]

@@onimaxblade8988 "always" here being the last 50 minute clip that all the comments were also saying "this isn't a clip"

[@GreedAndSelfishness]

Shhh. Shut the fuck up. You want 4 minute videos?

[@princepurple3814]

"Now that we're shaking more hands", huh, yeah, PAT AND WOOLIE GONNA DIRECT AND MAKE A NEW VIDEOGAME, HOLY SHIT, HOLY SHIT. ALL OF MY CHIPS ARE GOING INTO THIS BARREL. EVERY CHIP. I unironicly believe this. For real.

[@jakejutras5420]

LMFAO

[@Zantetsu13]

Maybe they couldn't find the colors. Or maybe, just maybe, the game is not loading the customization settings from other players correctly. I'm looking at you too, Pat. Edit: I see Father Gascoigne left Woolie scarred in more ways than one.

[@q9308]

The worst bug i had was where I alt tab'd out of the game and when i tried to go back in I was greeted with a Black Screen. So I closed the game and went back into the mission my friends and i were doing. My custom paint I had for my character was gone, I would run backwards, I couldnt fly and would instead glitch out and hover instead, I couldnt use my weapons and I had no head. So my friends had to finish the mission while I glitched and hovered around. The worst part was that I painted my ranger like Crazy Diamond and he looked fucking dope.

[@69KnightBlack]

I played the demo and loved it but I encountered some of the major issues they talked about as well I’m gonna still buy it but now I’m probably gonna wait till after it releases to see how it’s finished baking so to speak

[@AncelDeLambert]

I'm so glad Pat introduced me to Quite Shallow (aka Quiet Shy,) she's so damn funny.

[@DanielZ5]

The game just reminded me of dark void but with a modern day daily grind feel and I was one of those people who couldn't find the color customizer but after like 40 minutes of game play I really didn't care anymore I just deleted it

[@gregstinkston7634]

Dunky gave the new KH game a 1/5 but I feel like I had a better time with that than anthem's "demo".

[@gregstinkston7634]

I might get this game when it's 20 bucks in like a month and a half

[@4Wilko]

I just wanted to say that it's nice that Woolie is no longer stuck with the low framerate camera. But I will also miss the silly low framerate clips.

[@Entropic_Alloy]

Warframe is free and is made by an indie company. Anthem is $60 and run by a company with shareholders.

[@MajorCrasher]

Digital Extremes is no longer an indie company. They may have been when they started Warframe but the amount of money they make and the number of employees they currently have no longer makes them indie. Not to mention they're owned by Chinese shareholders as well.

[@MajorCrasher]

Digital Extremes is no longer an indie company. They may have been when they started Warframe but the amount of money they make and the number of employees they currently have no longer makes them indie. Not to mention they're owned by Chinese shareholders as well.

[@invertin]

Multiple planets with varying mission modes, multiple warframes and weapons that play completely differently from one another and a fun, interesting and unique movement system (and yes I am talking parkour 1.0 here, 2.0 is better but 1.0 still had some neat shit) is "infantile"? And also all of the stuff I just said is completely free while Anthem costs $60 and has the most boring gunplay I've ever seen?

[@RadMatter_]

I am avid PC gamer but i agree with Pat, fighting games? just get it on PS4

[@benhramiak8781]

I don't think I'm gonna get this. Might just wait and see

[@Avossk]

Yoooo that shoutout to Shy, nice!

[@danherondraws]

what name are they in the tubes or the twitch?

[@AmazingNil]

@@danherondraws Quite Shallow on youtube, I don't believe she has a twitch

[@Avossk]

TheAmazingNil She does have a twitch but she streams art most of the time, not actual games that often

[@danherondraws]

@@Avossk TheAmazingNil Thanks you two!

[@CPL.van7]

24:24 QUIT FUCKING YELLING! Jesus H. Christmas, Pat. It's inanimate fucking object... (Just gonna leave that secret joke there)

[@freshboy3968]

1:44 not been shaking so many hands after that years....

[@warzone822]

The thing about warframe cosmetics is the colors and attachments can be moved around with no cost

[@originalscreenname44]

An hour clip? Jeez, just upload the entire podcast why don't you?!

[@turkm]

Actually that'd be great

[@magnumbadguy9354]

Hey man I ain't complaining

[@manjackson2772]

because having access to the full live version is something they charge for

[@LeMasterofSwords]

originalscreenname44 they upload it on Spotify and iTunes

[@fourseamSeal]

Fuck u how bout that

[@therealjuralumin3416]

I know it’s a french word, but as someone who plays flight sims and is well versed in military aviation lingo, “sortie” is pronounced “sorty” like “shorty.” “sore-tea” might be the correct pronunciation, but real life pilots and air force personal would call it a “sorty” or at least the US and British do.

[@WoolieVersus]

+TheRealJuralumin Totally normal for this to be the case, yeah. It's more so the idea that I live in a city where the original word is used everyday in life, so there's a reason for the way it's said. Both contexts make sense, but some specific folks who aren't aware the other exists then go on to assume you're just a dumbass, when they're actually missing information.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

If a handshake if how you determine your feelings about me, I’m abit worried about how any of that’s gonna go afterwards

[@EvilPineappl]

Rhino has some of the best default colors tho. Him and Limbo look sick in their default skins.

[@TomboTime]

so in Woolie's mind a "clip" of his podcast is the equivalent to what most people would consider full podcast length.

[@animateacumen9396]

Someone able to clip Pat's "Bwha!" At about 9:30? Slightly before maybe by a second or 2. I see possibilities here :p

[@NexusARC]

Is that Samus in an IronMan like suit? Fucking top tier shirt Woolie.

[@orpenq]

Surprised woolie dont mentioned the FF14 since that was a super fk up game at lauch, cost money and they had to kill it to rebuild from nothing

[@traxthetrashwizard]

I tried playing Warframe on console, and it gave me mouse and keyboard prompts.

[@Fox_Olive]

When the heck was that?

[@traxthetrashwizard]

@@Fox_Olive a few months ago.

[@Fox_Olive]

Crimson Trax might have been during the UI rework, that was a prominent bug during that time

[@Icarus2063]

Talking about bugs in the demo....has anybody had the bug in the free roam mode where all mobs were invisible? It happened to me and I want to know if anybody else encountered it.

[@matthewbarnum4196]

Well they have said their doing a complete rework... Wonder if they can turn this around.

[@jakejutras5420]

Nope.

[@Szriko]

Calling Billy Minh... He's still Billy in my heart, fuckos.

[@TheNocturnal1]

Shoutout to fellow Funhaus viewers!

[@ghostparker1987]

Pe/\k

[@zeterzero4356]

I had the same problem getting started as Pat.

[@StubenhockerElite]

I hope Bioware may rest in peace soon

[@2Eliishere]

Yeah I'm just going to hold out for Division 2. Division got really fanastic in the last year of its life, if 2 launches at that level I will never stop playing it.

[@at0micl0bster]

don't hold your breath and never pay full price for ubisoft games

[@drewdahlen9660]

"the lost save feeling..." know that pain,not gonna do it.fuck anthem!

[@jormungandr147]

Was this a ps4 problem? because i played on pc and other then in the first weekend demo having infinite loading screens and the hub being terrible i was perfectly fine and the second weekend i didn't have any problems

[@justwungo]

GasQUAAAAH getting annoyed at people pronouncing things wrong huh?

[@derrickrsay]

Watching that let’s play now just to listen to something in the background at work and he keeps saying that, I don’t know how I feel

[@jittaijin]

Anything but the dead fish handshake!

[@TheFranssiBrother]

11:55 Someone seems to have watched Shy's videos :^)

[@vanhende]

Game publishers treat game creators, like aristocrats treat racehorses.. "below average this quarter, you say...." (click click, BOOM!!!) "brandy? oh yes, a-haha... jolly good show, old been.." 400000 people just lost their jobs... and yes yes, not all "suit" are evil... But, I can't be the only one who has trouble telling the thieves from the liars.

[@Smoofyful]

No Woolie, that's now how you pronounce sort-... Ah fuck it. Omelette du fromage.

[@chrisp.8401]

Does anyone have a link to the video Pat is talking about. The one about the Warframe player poking fun at Anthem?

[@rogermoraldo2782]

The name is Quiette Shy. Look her up, she's got some dope content.

[@chrisp.8401]

Roger Moraldo Thanks!

[@pirateking56128]

Amazing analogy

[@sawysauce1256]

1:08 damn right

[@Benigndepressedbear]

God damn one whole hour just to Anthem

[@Benigndepressedbear]

By the way fuck Google Voice Text for capitalizing anthem

[@darrianweathington1923]

BioWare is hosting the next Fyre fest...

[@CezrDaPleazr]

Gonna have to wait for Anthem, no way in hell I'm buying it at full price. This podcast has done something for me tho, ima go play more Warface

[@benhramiak8781]

It looks mixed to me. Combat looks good but story looks meh. So destiny again

[@whatsuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu]

Well its bioware so it already beats destiny on story not to mention you cant judge story from a first impression

[@throwdown1776]

Anthem is basically gigantic but without the heart

[@jakejutras5420]

What? Its absolutely nothing like Gigantic.

[@varietywiarrior]

No, Woolie, have a good handshake.

[@generalhayes2332]

oh man we need some new lps

[@1dayago843]

Woolie Versus Warframe: The Second Dream when damnit

[@Adriangabs]

Maybe they should stop calling these "Clips" and start naming them "[Topic] discussions" instead so that people would stop complaining

[@ricardomilos10]

Surprise me. Another EA scam?

[@llRecks]

Just post the whole podcast. i stupid brain needs something to look at while i listen. I would watch every episode if you did upload it here.

[@bLu48o]

Petition to change the name of these to "Castle Super Clips"!

[@HellecticMojo]

RIP Bioware

[@danhectic5629]

they shoulda just made MDK 3.

[@thelaughingrouge]

You know what This game is? It's Bioware's Final Fantasy.

[@Deadespejo]

1hr? Just fuck my shit up already Woolie

[@ApathyParabellum]

All my first impressions have been bad, but I'm pretty popular.

[@helloimtom100]

I listed to the whole thing on soudcoud but it's way better on video.

[@magnumbadguy9354]

Yes to what Pat is saying. Big yes.

[@ToozdaysChild]

So long, Bioware. It was nice knowing you.

[@angelon3637]

Fuck if you gonna upload a solid hour, upload Woolie vs Skelleton Graham Bell or The Saga of Punished Woolie and Titanfall

[@Draygarth]

I was the same as Pat I got in played for 10 minutes and was just bored. Your abilities feel so weak, mainly because every enemy is a bullet sponge and just ignore whatever you do until they die. Compared to Warframe and Destiny, I can't see the appeal.

[@michaelmaguire4147]

Also destiny 2 had to make the game free for a little bit to try to entice people to actually give it a chance.