Casual Yu-Gi-Oh! Elitist Players are Hilarious

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[@Danxv33]

The reason you play magic cylinder: In case your opponent summons a 44,000 atk winged dragon of Ra

[@Gadlight]

Owen Lloyd A magic cylinder a day keeps the shadow realm at bay.

[@DarthNash6]

So, I’m just sitting at the car shop getting my oil changed, and I burst out laughing when I read your comment, and this old lady just glared at me hahaha

[@zakd2124]

It's why you play Blast Held By A Tribute. It's an unfair card that useful against basically the entire metagame. Obviously a staple 4 of

[@khalifeh22]

Owen Lloyd but ROAR’s hidden ability is that it’s unaffected by spells and traps.

[@joshgrabinski]

I mean to be fair if by some twist of fate that ever does happen AND you have a magic cylinder set you basically just stole a game you have no business winning

[@akba666]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand .

[@runningoncylinders3829]

Rick and Morty

[@SakuraPhoenix153]

Victory Dragon FTK

[@zariygo]

Bujin pass

[@mastern9293]

yugimumoto1 but thats the best deck

[@ShuraEssays]

You have to have a very high IQ to understand Super Quants. After all, they have Quantum in the name.

[@blindfreak9]

Better analogy is wearing sandals to the Olympics 400m and getting mad at all the other runners for wearing shoes

[@jigglestheclown219]

Shoes don't cost hundreds of dollars though

[@steliostoulis1875]

Jiggles the Clown they do

[@ccggenius]

I mean, it's an insult to the ancient Greeks. Running is supposed to be done with sandals, just as wrestling is to be done all naked and greased up.

[@invertedcrayon]

@@jigglestheclown219 shoes not costing 100s of dollars. Oh man you've been wearing broke Boi shoes lmao

[@jigglestheclown219]

@@invertedcrayon Not really, unless that's what clown shoes are

[@colinbrown74]

He just did an indirect “My Dad works at Konami” on ya

[@loganburnette7984]

Colin Brown OH YEAH. WELL MY BROTHER WORKS AT KONAMI AND HE IS ONLY THREE YEARS OLD BUT I CAN GET YOU BANNED. WATCH WAT U SAY PAL.

[@thesaltmerchant4564]

Speech 100

[@rr_gaming4954]

r/woosh

[@Kuriboh1008]

@@rr_gaming4954 that was also a joke you're whoooshing a joker

[@donovanjeppesen2446]

*Oh yeah. My brother works at Konami. Even though he he is only three years old i can still get you banned. Watch what you say.* You had some grammar mistakes.

[@hiddenvoice27]

Dark magician isn't bad at all, it's just that not everyone can summon him with no monsters on their field and declare a direct attack.

[@adm102401]

Leo F Or be able to summon 3 Blue eyes turn one

[@therealneal3034]

Vesper Kovak I mean, if your starting hand was 3 Blue Eyes, a poly, and a decision... you could. 😂

[@Aventrixmusic]

Vesper Kovak i was playing vs an ai on ygoproes and it dropped 3 blue eyes, an alternative, and a dragon spirit of white on me, in one turn xD

[@helloNotato]

GG

[@ceasebenjaminbeast3947]

@@helloNotato I gotta bounce guys

[@ButterclawEnthusiast]

but dzeeff, didn't you know? Mystical Elf has a secret effect where it can gain you life points and draw you cards and can hit the dab on your opponent and declare victory

[@ButterclawEnthusiast]

not even the meta can stop the dabs

[@TomtomTM1]

ACTUALLY it increases the atk of the Blue-Eyes. I swear, Yami said so and also Dark Duel Stories said so too. If you take this serious, consider yourself sarcasm-immune.

[@austinbentley6471]

Also you can special summon Dark Magician with no monsters left on the field and declare a direct attack

[@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa]

It actually did have a "secret effect" in the anime. But that was just to give its attack points to another monster.

[@LoneStarVII]

But only if your opponent accepts the handshake.

[@DonPiantissimo]

You're full of it metacheater, Ra does have a hidden effect. Source: It's written on my back in ancient egyptian

[@kmw5100]

Al Bhed Hi Melvin

[@realzachfluke1]

_metacheater_ wow lol. just take it easy, man. ;)

[@realzachfluke1]

Captain Bruh I did, hence the wink

[@DungeonGeists]

Yeah but mines a ghost rare so I can flex on timmy at Saturday tournaments and take his rarest card

[@AlphaC0re]

this is a very good comment. i love the term “metacheater”.

[@NickersonGeneral]

Love the guy calling Zane a "technical duelist", as if he's some real life person noted for his excellent use of real world mechanics and skill that other players can aspire to have, and not a completely fictional character who was only good at this game because he magically drew every card he needed in his opening hand every time.

[@roberthansen5727]

Yeah exactly, he was a real master because he was good enough to draw the out

[@DrDrao]

Let's be fair, before he switched to cyber darks, zane had the most consistently powerful, and least convoluted deck in gx. Like jaiden is running vanilla e heros, and cyrus is running vehicleroids, it's not a tall bar to clear. One of the series villians who was painted as this invincible menace was on arcana force.

[@NickersonGeneral]

​@@DrDrao You're right, his deck was probably the best one out of anyone in the series. I mostly pick on him because I swear every opening hand he had in the show was 3 cyber dragons + some fusion spell, and everyone goes "ahhhhhh, what talent! Notice how skillfully he draws everything he needs to summon guy with big numbie every duel!". I mean say what you will about Jaden or Syrus (or even Sartorius), at least their opening hands varied from duel to duel, and thus is SLIGHTLY more believable.

[@ahmadazem4167]

​@@NickersonGeneral drawing good is a skill in gx, so yes it's a skill in the anime lol

[@Tastypieinyourmouth]

There are 2 possible explanations for the Ra comment: 1. It was written by a 12 year old 2. It was a huge troll (the uncle at Konami bit is a dead giveaway)

[@brycethomas4290]

Tastypie option 2

[@PrimordialNightmare]

Well, while this comment is full of shit for the "I talked to konami people" and "They jsut didn't wnat to put so much text" there is actually a precedence for people thinking Ra works that way. He did in the Video Game Nightmare Troubardour. which made him attack point wise pretty powerfull. But still not really worth playing.

[@mcbadrobotvoice8155]

3. It was written by a huge 12 year old.

[@Isolated_Inception]

4. All of the above

[@realzachfluke1]

mc bad robot voice the big ones do tend to be even more filled to the brim with shit.

[@Silamon2]

That guy said he was playing a "Dark Magician" deck in 2002...? And that it was good...? Did he not notice that Summoned Skull had the same attack for 1 less tribute, or that there was no dark magician support in 2002...?

[@XxZigiixX]

Ahh Summoned Skull, the memories...

[@ymmijx6061]

but he had all the secret abilities on the card!!!

[@softback132]

@@ymmijx6061 perfect explanation

[@baconsir1159]

Summoned Skull was the OG World Champion deck

[@smoothSnake23]

"I summon Summoned Skull."

[@bearyboy9088]

Casuals > Pros Btw last week I talked to a konami employee that had gotten lost and accidentally ended up in a homeless shelter where I met him. He told me that if I'd pay him he would give me secret konami tips and rules that employees are allowed to know because they are too op for normal players. See u at the next YCS, scrubs.

[@nurikwon1591]

R/wooosh

[@michaelsantangelo1875]

Sounds like a FAT shit bag of Lie

[@breadcyclone]

this has to be a joke

[@TomtomTM1]

C'mon guys, can't you read a fucking cynical comment, this is obv a joke :V

[@Skinskinable]

Beary Boy was it Hideo Kojima?

[@jacktbc3947]

Reason to run dark bribe: To force your opponent to draw a garnet

[@bruhmoment1835]

So you can counter Upstart Goblin.

[@onyxshade5381]

Bruh Moment literal galaxy brain play.

[@flinngordon68]

@@bruhmoment1835 Hang on a just a second... That's fucking HUGE brain

[@Willium95]

In todays game, probably true.

[@niero4201]

@@bruhmoment1835 Okay... I want to laugh... But my stupid ass has done that before...

[@acooper11397]

I Apologize on the behalf of the Red-Eyes player whom is an idiot. We Red-Eyes players revoke him from our circle.

[@hi-i-am-atan]

+Captain Aaron Cooper That guy had a _helluva_ lot more comments and he seriously seems like a guy who has a Red-Eyes body pillow. He was literally talking shit about anyone who ever played more than a single deck in their entire life, all with a healthy dose of sexism, toxic masculinity, and the whole "oh you used an insult that means you're like 6, but that doesn't loop back to me even though I've been insulting a metric fuckton of people this entire time."

[@blacktimhoward4322]

(whispers) who

[@israeldelarosa5461]

Cringe Lord *whispers softly in ear* Red-Eyes Zombie Necro Dragon, a REZD retrain and Red-Eyes Synchro, is coming out in the Zombie World Reloaded SD.

[@sideways992]

I love Red-eyes it my favorite Monster but I will be the first to say its not my best deck

[@section4344]

Well, Odd-Eyes has a red eye, so I guess I stand with you?

[@so0meone]

My standard response to the Red Eyes player: "Here, let's switch decks, I'll beat you using yours as well."

[@_Asleep_]

Classic

[@thedootlord]

Legend

[@michaelwrong57]

"You don't get any special award for playing bad decks" -pretty much sums up the video

[@ThisDudeCrisis]

Did you know that Swamp Battleguard & Lava Battleguard have a hidden ability when their both on the field together? If you don't destroy both of them at the same time the other Battleguard can deflect your attack back at you, destroy your monster & you lose half their attack points from your life points. Ahh, so much bullshit in the anime.

[@NerdyTransformed]

Season 1 was the definition of "lol random"

[@off-the-grounder568]

Hey, Battleguards gotta look out for each other!

[@szabok1999]

@@NerdyTransformed At one moment, Yugi attacked a spell card... And succesfully destroyed it.

[@nabeelnitro6447]

@@szabok1999 I attack the *MOON* No moon= No water Fish is kill *no*

[@genericname3516]

There is a prize for playing bad decks at a tournament. It's called meme cred. :P

[@tanith117]

Yes but its so inflated and not widely recognized the most it will get you is a few Luls.

[@doombybbr]

Nah, you only get that if you run an off meta deck that is actually good. Like how every few years in mtg a weird deck comes out of nowhere and starts stomping people left and right. Then it becomes meta and you are no longer special.

[@macchi004]

We get OST packs just for entering at our locals. KAPPA

[@tripwirecreator25]

doombybbr Yep, that leaves a legacy for pulling that off then on to the next rogue strat.

[@xbotscythe]

I may only get 1 Ost pack for entering with Crystal Beasts and go 0-4 or 1-3, but I can meme it

[@mcbadrobotvoice8155]

“My deck [deck] is actually really good. You just don’t have a high enough intelligence to play [deck] you are just a meta loser who plays nothing but [other deck]. I talked to an employee at konami and they said [favorite card] has [broken ablity] and its just not on the card text. I am the king of games bow down to me” i think that sums most of the comments up

[@___i3ambi126]

Playing a meta deck at a tournament is like using the best known training techniques to prepare for the Olympics. They aren't being unfair, they just aren't arbitrarily handicapping themselves.

[@peanutbuttereggdirt1]

It's like wearing running shoes. Sure, the guys on stilts might be having more fun, but they're missing the point.

[@paulomachado7328]

HettGutt Uh, no? There's a banlist for Yu-Gi-Oh, and no tournament allows people to use banned cards, so like, what's your point?

[@ignaz-one7430]

HettGutt Nope... 1) Steroids are something external to the body (which would be the equivalent to the Deck in Yugioh) For your analogy to work, it should be applied to Stacking or some other cheating methods. 2) Using Meta Decks is perfectly legal... it's just as legal as using a casual or rogue deck. If you don't like whatever your opponent plays... there's the door. I play Dragunity... it's been my only deck since 2013 (i didn't use any Dragon Rulers if that's of concern) And no one can deny the love i've put in that deck. The deck doesn't always win... but i honestly don't care what my opponent plays... because it's their choice. We let you make your choice about your deck... Why must you decide about what WE play?

[@unsungangel7269]

IGNAZ-ONE same man. I’m only a casual player but I love playing cyber dragons mostly because they are nostalgic to me. I can’t wait to rework my deck with the new cyber dragon support that just came out.

[@ignaz-one7430]

Pneuma The Aegis That's great, Cyber Dragons are a pretty fun deck to both play and play against.

[@hesterEX]

When I was 6 someone traded me a blue eyes white dragon for a magical fish because he said it could grant 3 wishes per duel

[@adamnovak7602]

Damn you finessed this kid's Blue Eyes

[@Jeeves_0]

@@adamnovak7602 nah the kid finessed himself

[@SolarFlareWings]

Dark Magician isn't an ace card. It's just the card your actually good cards require you to have. And I love Dark Magician.

[@ColArana]

SolarFlare Assuming that commenter was serious, I feel when he says “ace card” he means “win condition”, ie. “Dark Magician is what I use to win games, not any of the cards that use it as a component of its summoning condition.”

[@therealneal3034]

It’s an ace card if you build a deck around it. It’s hart to pull off the win if you build a deck around it, but it is plausible. Dark Magician is my fave. Also a big fan of Dark Magician With Big Boobies.

[@Kuriboh1008]

@@therealneal3034 stop it, get some help.

[@Kuriboh1008]

@@therealneal3034 sarcasm

[@therealneal3034]

Domino Hevy bro you gotta add emojis on the internet lmao

[@luca65182]

Toadally Awesome has a hidden effect, just like Trickstar Candina, which reads as following; "While this card is on the field, your opponent can inflict salt on you during every Standby Phase. If your opponent quits, they can use this card as an excuse as to why they quit." When I read it I was astonished, I just fell right for the hidden effect! I still hate those cards, but this new perspective has changed my way of thinking about them.

[@pedrodarosamello64]

I genreally like to play trap-heavy decks and ho boy, there's a lot of them with that Hidden eff. The entire Lair of Darkness deck has that eff.

[@THEN00BINATORX3]

only when you use enchanted javelin over magic ctlinder will you reach true enlightenment

[@SakuraPhoenix153]

Sapphire But your opponent could activate Bad Reaction to Simochi when Magic Cylinder requires no risk and is free damage.

[@THEN00BINATORX3]

Alden Flores get out of here with your toxic meta game

[@iliketutles8525]

Sapphire this is every casual elitist player I talk too oml

[@SakuraPhoenix153]

I was kidding lol

[@THEN00BINATORX3]

Alden Flores i know you were. i was kidding as well

[@paulotruzzi3652]

To be fair, Konami does release broken cards to make money and banlist them 1-3 formats later, but that doesn't mean every single card in a deck is broken just because it's better than other decks

[@sblower9410]

I love being fair! Its a useful alternative to being spiteful and mean.

[@619ver1]

Well not a fan of cards like evenly matches myself but meh, just means trying to avoid running into it.

[@furymonger5395]

@@sblower9410 how is saying i love being fair spiteful and mean? For me i just don't like to have infinite negates and meta cards like ash or access code so people can have fun.

[@Imperatorumgladio]

Back in the days, when I played with my brother, I used to argue that the Science Soldier a normal lvl 3 monster from PSV, would allow you check the set monters of you opponent because the description says that he has a weapon to face unknown creatures. On my defense, back then we got only some booster packs and made up rules since the show literally was nonsense land.

[@ninetails6218]

That was me and my friends with the Pokémon TCG. We would play it like the Pokémon games bc we only ever got boosters, it wasnt until we got out of elementary did any of us know what tf we were doing, but by then we were deep into YGO

[@andreaseverin1346]

Man... I remember when people had Italian cards in my middle school, were making up straight up broken effects like, I shit you not, "you can special summon this card from your hand" without restriction. On a 5k monster that also got rid of your opponent's hand. Except I understood the basic Italian of these cards, turns out the card was just that one 5k beater with a bunch of restrictions, that sends YOUR hand to the grave. I was hated in middle school because of this

[@strikingshadow0219]

@@andreaseverin1346 rocket arrow express right?

[@Oni_SmokeCG]

That's actually amazing hashhahsh

[@inusan2198]

Casual players be like mst negates

[@darthdragonborn1076]

Inu San actually dueled a person said mst negates,showed him the rulings on it and he just rage quit

[@shyguysquad5231]

Inu San oh my god so relatable 😡

[@LordPyotr]

Every new guy at my locals

[@greedyboy4449]

Inu San i used to think that too when i was 12

[@infiniteshay8660]

No that's just silly. We all know that the true negating card is Twin Long Rods #2.

[@chrisburns9898]

I actually know a guy like this. He builds 60 card decks that rely on ridiculous 1 ofs to completely carry his strategy, and when I call him out on his flawed logic, he just claims that I’m ‘too naive to understand’. Like he built a deck revolving about neos wiseman, and was running only one of neos and yubel, and not even running other cards to like tutor them out either. He was running 1 neos, 1 yubel, 1 neos wiseman, and 1 card to tutor out yubel, which is a LVL 6 GEMINI. It was genuinely the most dumbfounding thing I’ve ever heard and seen. I kinda got off topic, either way, casual elitists are quite funny when they think they’re hot shit, and in all reality, they make decks I would have made when I was 10 buy a pack or 2 a month with my allowance.

[@TomtomTM1]

I want to quote some guy with whom I had a discussion about why usually your deck should be 40 cards: "But if I play 60 cards, I won't end up dead-drawing."

[@chrisburns9898]

Seinaru the funny part about my guy is that he’s a like a respected person in a discord server I used to frequent. I would call him out on his bs, and he would get all defensive about his deck building skill, boasting about how he was like respected on the server. I don’t think he’s shit, he just has a few people fooled that his abysmal deckbuilding skill is good.

[@sharkodile22]

Ever try demonstrating for him why that's not smart? Convenient thing about competitive games, it's pretty easy to put someone on blast.

[@Dd5yr5g]

cant you just duel and beat with something like ozama to humiliate him?

[@chrisburns9898]

Kumo I don’t go on that discord anymore. There was a good amount of annoying people on there, so I left

[@kimlugt5809]

8:55 Atem came back from the afterlife just to post that comment.

[@akrybion]

Ah, I remember in primary school making up card effects as I go along like in the Anime, because nobody could read that well yet and understand what every card does. That also means that my Ultimate Ra deck that runs 3 copies of Ra is the best thing since the invention of chocolate and everyone who disagrees I personally challange to a duel and will decimate with Ra's twenty hidden abilities! Good day, Sirs!

[@kylianos3907]

But what if i tribute your 3 Ra's for a Ra - sphere mode. Two can play that game.

[@akrybion]

Kylianos3 Only of you can recite the ancient aegyptian text on the card!

[@KovoN]

P K >You watch in horror as he pulls out Google Translator on his phone.

[@justanothercommenterwithan9089]

@@KovoN GOOGLE TRANSLATE IMPOSSIBLE NO ONES BEEN ABLE TO SUMMON HIM

[@willsandin2365]

when I was in elementary school, I had a friend claim that every time you played a Dark monster, you drew 4 cards,

[@aestheticso3964]

The uncle that works for Konami.

[@ego2133]

A lot of these casuals elitists players seems to have relations with Konami, in some way. That's convenient. :P

[@Karmabud-Sirius]

美的Aesthetic So The new best horror game of the year

[@WilliamBeason]

I’ve never played Yu-Gi-Oh, but I find your videos very interesting from a game design standpoint. It’s interesting to listen to how different mechanics combine into strategies, and how even individual cards can impact so much about how the game is played.

[@JesseNightingale]

That Ra dude is just... Wow xD If you want hidden abilitys go to pokemon xD

[@calvinb4769]

Jesse Nightingale not in Pokemon either lol

[@JesseNightingale]

??? b In the handheld games there is hidden ablitys

[@calvinb4769]

Jesse Nightingale ah I was talking about the TCG

[@JesseNightingale]

??? b I honesty forgot there was a TCG or I would have made my original comment more clear.

[@ShuraEssays]

My friend - sorry, no, that's not quite right, my slightly aggravating acquaintance, was playing Monarchs against my DDDs and tried to tell me and everyone else that D/D/D cards weren't D/D cards. He then threatened to rip my cards. After I schooled him, he told me to "never pull that crap (paraphrasing there) again" and left. Good times. That's not how names work.

[@user-ur5sc3tg8x]

“I normally wouldn’t snitch, but you don’t mess with someone’s cards” I’m sorry, I had to.

[@Judgeharm]

There are two types of players in YuGiOh. 1. Blue eyes players 2. Plebs

[@boooster101]

Oh hello, Kaiba

[@DakarrtheTerminator]

Shiver and fright before my mighty Tier 0 tindangles

[@iliketutles8525]

Sophie Ruggwain bow down before my mighty Tier 0 Ojama Tindangle Ghostrick

[@snom2187]

Pfft.... BOW DOWN TO MY TIER -3 MOKEY MOKEY OTK

[@Bokune9999]

@@iliketutles8525 somebody should totally make that... itd probably be the best worst thing ever (and look at all that synergy!!! the tindangles have effects that help the ghostricks since they like being facedown and the ojamas can reverse atk and def so that your defense intensive monsters can be decent beatsticks and you also get the boss monsters of all three with the tindangle link monster the ghostrick XYZs and ojama king)

[@adamantium4999]

I’ve noticed causal players are either really chill and just enjoy the game for using what they wanna play with; then there’s the “ casual” player that are literally channeling Yugi/Kaiba/Yugioh Series character while playing the game and the anime is fueling their ideas and that there are no jank cards especially ones that appeared in the anime (Note: most anime cards were awesome but severely nerfed in real life lol)

[@NickersonGeneral]

For me, I think it boils down to 4 types Type 1 are the people literally just starting out with little knowledge of how to properly build, so they're just trying everything they can all at once. These are people who struggle to beat their friends and/or video game AI. Type 2 are the people Dzeeff are describing here. Ones that have been playing for a while, know the rules pretty well, but are on the extreme end of the Dunning Kruger effect where they think they know better than competitive players. They either have zero idea of what competitive decks are actually capable of, or THINK they do and think their decks have zero issues countering them (this is often based on blind speculation and/or one time they got lucky against a meta player), and most of their experience with yugioh comes from playing against video game AI, their friends, maybe even a local tournament or two. Type 3 are the people who have at least seen competitive yugioh decks in action, and potentially got their asses handed to them. These are the people who whine constantly about how bullshit the meta is, have extreme solutions on how to "fix" it (limit extra deck space or special summons, unban X card, literally throw out the entirety of a new summoning mechanic, etc). Type 4 are people who are well aware of how the meta works, knows why there are a non-insignificant amount of people who enjoy it (hint: maybe just because YOU don't find something fun doesn't mean other people can't possibly find it fun), but decided that the meta isn't for them, and continue playing their rogue decks/made up formats/etc without bothering anybody about it.

[@Z_Cerulean]

That 'spoke to Konami' thing is like the Yu-Gi-OH equivalent of 'dad/uncle that works at Nintendo'

[@DwayneTheSquidJohnson]

6:35 This dude sounds like the ‘I graduated the top of my classes in the navy seals’ copypasta lmao

[@narfd.8837]

The worst thing is, that many elitists or so called "creative players" just don't even care to listen to facts. I for example had to explain to someone that a deck that wants to get Legendary Fisherman III on the field, should play as many consistency cards as possible and not just 1 Legendary Fisherman, II & III each and a bunch of water monsters that basically do nothing. He didn't even care about the mathematical facts I provided! One time, I even heard someone say, that he plays his best cards just 1 or 2 times as he likes the diversity of playing the other cards of his archetype (i.e. the bad ones). Life (and Yu-Gi-Oh) can be frustrating at times.

[@Hewhowantstoknow]

At my locals there's this guy that'll come to you for help to make his deck better and then make excuses for why he runs a card and disregard it entirely. He'll do that multiple times during each local event he's at.

[@OnEiNsAnEmOtHeRfUcKa]

That just sounds like you being a salty bitch because two guys wanted to play their decks for fun rather than optimizing them to be competitive.

[@Symonch_]

Well i like veriety in the deck. It's no fun just having 3 copies of the same 4 monsters. I have a deck dragon with too many normal monsters maybe, but since i play casually i like to see different monsters btween a duel and the other. It also mixes up who has the upper hand sometimes, give some more tension

[@dongabonga6472]

I mean just because you want to play something that isn't mathematical or tactical doesn't mean the dude can't have fun? If he doesn't expect anything then why would you even give af

[@Brutaltronics]

ok, but how do we know they are not just trolling? *wooshception*

[@mahdmahn]

Now you'll say "I was only pretending to be retarded" ツ

[@risebellthesummoner]

mahdmahn is that a....

[@trubica]

Risebell ゴゴゴゴゴ

[@mahdmahn]

Risebell :^)

[@pepenaman]

3 words: Too much effort.

[@mergedpotato]

i feel like what a lot of these "this deck is actually super good and super skillful" comments miss is that if it's a skillful deck then it should actually show some good results when played well. there are things in games even outside yugioh that reward you immensely for being able to master and flop if you're unable to learn the strategy, but when a deck shows no results even after mastering the hyped up skill curve, mayyyybe it just isn't very good.

[@onyxshade5381]

Mergedpotato My perfect example of a “skillful deck” is probably D/D/D. It has results but it’s a damn hard archetype to play because your mechanical understanding has to be on point af. There are freestyle D/D/D combos and strategies. I’m starting to play them and I’m shocked how little I actually know about them. Then again just came back after a few years so I don’t know as much as I once did.

[@FeanixFlamage]

i get a lot of people at my locals that have more or less this type of mentality. they come in, they think they're the best player, their deck is amazing, and then they get swiftly 2-0'd by one of my more casual decks (because i feel bad playing shit like trickstars, lol.) and they don't understand why they lost. some of them are a tad less full of themselves and are willing to listen to feedback, and some just double down. i think the one thing i hate the most is when people playing a "casual" deck like ice barrier, they always dismiss losses with "oh, you beat ice barrier, big deal..." but then let even a single win go right to their head like "HAHA! you got beat by ICE BARRIERS!!!" and they turn into insufferable assholes for the rest of the day. they basically deflect any responsibility for their loss while also diminishing any work you put in by blaming it on their shitty deck, while also getting super big headed and trying to put you down because hey, you lost to a shit deck ONE time. because it's not like rng is a thing and sometimes no amount of skill can compensate for luck/probability. i had one guy saying that he knew he'd win a game before they even started because he saw his opponent's deck beforehand. his deck literally only won because it was so bad that none of the other guys cards actually mattered. because their deck was designed to play against actual good decks and didn't have an out for something like the first of dragons. (i think he had raigeki, but he milled it because lightsworn rng) he also would have actually won in time had he not decked out first. so the other guy was more or less handed a win because he happened to have one card in his extra deck that the opponent only had one or two ways to deal with, AND got lucky enough to open with his SINGLE copy of dragon's mirror that he for some reason was running in a cyberse deck, and was able to use it early enough.

[@619ver1]

Well honestly i mostly play casual decks as well, only going into budget meta decks like paleo/frog because they have an interesting mechanic. The guys you decribe though are the ones i use psyframe against. Not because its good, just because it simply says a whole lot of nope and its fun to see them rage quit.

[@beybladebabe4459]

There's a Mark Twain quote that summarizes your experience very well: "The best swordsman in the world doesn't need to fear the second best swordsman in the world; no, the person for him to be afraid of is some ignorant antagonist who has never had a sword in his hand before; he doesn't do the thing he ought to do, and so the expert isn't prepared for him."

[@baconsir1159]

Build Ice Barriers optimally and destroy him with them

[@jandaxprss6784]

I’m casual. I have a lot of confidence with my deck. And I will always have confidence. I want to duel competitively but the nearest local is an hour drive from me. I know there are “better decks” but has nothing to do with “better player”. All decks can lose and all decks can win. Some matchups are worse but you can still win. “Better player” is important.

[@poptart2323]

s?

[@JuwanBuchanan]

Casual Elite Yu-Gi-Oh players are just as bad as the Competitive Elite players if not worse in some cases.

[@daserfomalhaut9809]

Divine_Wrath Honestly, competitive Yugioh players are bigger assholes than the LoL community excluding some exceptions like DZeef. The shit I put up with before it drove me away from physical Yugioh was absurd. Verbal abuse, card theft, people putting their hands on me, the general smugness from unbathed nerds thinking they're Kaiba. Just awful.

[@noukan42]

Basically Casual elitist are scrubs, and competitive elitist are bullies.

[@TomtomTM1]

Well yes, that is true. But both of them have one thing in common: They won't let you play the game the way you enjoy it. That's what's making them asshats. :)

[@cnssegura]

Didn't even know that category existed before this post, but agreed. lol

[@jordansanders9623]

X P i left the game a few months back for that same reason . i dont think i wanna come back

[@DarthNash6]

So, I used to be one of those guys who thought meta players were all douchebags because at my locals they were. And then my friends and I started to actually look into how we could be more competitive because we wanted to beat the choades who always won our locals. Ironically, the first tournament we ever went to when we all got back into the game was a Regionals tournament, so we kind of knew there was a more competitive scene. Eventually we met more competitive players and we really liked the meta scene and just discovered that douchbags were everywhere, casual or competitive. Like, I know that I’ll probably not top a tournament again for awhile because I work and do 16 credits per semester, so I just don’t have the time. The only top I ever got was because I just graduated high school and didn’t have any responsibilities so I focused all my time of Yu-Gi-Oh lol

[@ymmijx6061]

ah one of the great lessons of life. x isn't full of douchbags the world is!

[@ShuraEssays]

Can I just mention that at some point in my Yugioh "career" I thought it would be a good idea to play Blasting the Ruins in Lightsworn? For those of you who don't know, Blasting the Ruins is a trap card that lets you burn for 3000 damage, but only when you have 30 cards in your graveyard. It makes sense logically, but this was also before Grass, so there's that.

[@ShuraEssays]

DR XYZ is Dark Rebellion XYZ Dragon . . . God, that's your go-to? And you play three? I can't even take this guy seriously anymore. I mean, it's an alright card. I play 3. It's my ace monster. Like, what?!?

[@Yumil_fab]

Oh god I wouldn't have realized it without your comment, thanks a lot, this puts the original comment to a whole new level of stupidity. If at least it was supreme king rebellion, I could see some occasionnal surprise swings for game with him, but vanilla rebellion being the ace of cyberdarks is the biggest joke of the day.

[@wolfox7776]

I guess Dark Requiem is in that deck as well?

[@Yumil_fab]

Oh yes, because a rank-up magic is exactly what cyberdark needed. more bricky situationnal cards. Can't go wrong with that. I hope slash draw's in there while we're at it.

[@ShuraEssays]

Fabien Bonnet use it to recycle your one ofs of course. Like magic cylinder and call of the haunted.

[@xbotscythe]

i use Dark Rebellion in Crystal beasts for rank 4 memes

[@Railkyon]

I met a guy who claims that exodia has a different win condition in tournaments, that instead of having the 5 pieces in hand you must have them on the field to win. He said that's the reason not many people play exodia in tournaments instead of accepting the shocking truth that exodia isn't even near to be best deck . I just followed along 'cause I didn't have enough time to discuss with him and was too tired 'cause we just had an exam so I wanted to go home soon

[@Bladewarriorcat]

Rail I wish Exodia could win when he's on the field. That would be very nice twist of things.

[@baval5]

I think exodia would be better like that. Mill the pieces with necros or something and then youre one soul charge to victory

[@runningoncylinders3829]

Dusk Darthon They did something similar with the sorta recent Destiny Board Support. They let you get those into the Monster Zones to free up backrow.

[@TomtomTM1]

I made people believe that I can use Exodias effect with two left arms/feet in school.

[@Bladewarriorcat]

Runningon Cylinders that's awesome

[@wheelotime2581]

I know you're hilarious Dzeeff, that's why i watch you bro

[@curziomalaparte3008]

Omg the Ra comment made me laugh in public why did you do this Dzeeff

[@eririspencersawamura5291]

The Ra effect as the guy described is actually true at one point in time (in the TagForce games)

[@CrnaStrela]

It is anime eff lol, people who only watched anime and play games based on the anime will always confuse the God card's effect and think we all dumb for not using them.

[@teguhlg]

Curzio Malaparte If you looking for the original japanese version, there is no such [Effect] neither the description of it, even the colour is bright yellow like a normal monster card. So yeah, it is true at the time.

[@PiPArtemis]

@@eririspencersawamura5291 the only card I remember having an effect like that was Great Maju Garzet (forgive my spelling its only been like 14 years lol) That card was my favorite dick move in the game. Get a couple chunky monsters down then slam down that hulking mansandwich and watch the life drain from your younger brother's eyes

[@PiPArtemis]

so i just looked up the card and I was reading it wrong that whole time, you only get the doubled atk/def from 1 of the tributes not both. Now I kinda feel like a dick retroactively to all the duels i won by unintended cheating

[@edibleplates]

magic cylinder is secretly actually just a pot of greed reprint and if you activate it during your own turn it draws you 2 cards i read it in a secret internal Konami rulebook once

[@xbotscythe]

pomf pomf kimochi the fbi is after me

[@Tempus_Sicarius]

The Ra guy was trying to use Ra's anime effect

[@TheSuperM101]

I'm a fairly new casual player. I don't hate on meta decks though, I just accept and enjoy playing with the 60 pile deck that i have lol. I have only been playing with a couple of my friends and it's been interesting learning the game and what you can and can't do. By watching these videos it not only keeps my ADHD busy while I do something else but it allows me to open my eyes to new cards and what to avoid and what could be useful! It also helps me learn more specific rulings I may not have known before!

[@differentting4215]

A better analogy would be using meta decks is like taking your Olympic team to the Olympics rather than taking your 13 year old kid.

[@skylarpolek6724]

Imagine making up some effect for a monster in a tournament and when your opponent/the judge calls you out you say “Nah I talked to someone at Konami it’s a hidden effect not actually printed”

[@federicodc]

"Konami is afraid of putting too much text on a card because people wouldn't want to use it" *looks at Endymion, first printed in a structure deck*

[@ozzymandice7558]

I feel like half the thing about elitist casuals and a lot of more snobbish casuals in general is understanding that you're casual. I, myself, am a casual. A lot of my friends say I'm more competitive but I don't actually play competitive decks (i play nekroz) so I KNOW I'm not competitive

[@kennethholbrecht6103]

I loved yugioh since it started . Went to some local tcg , at the time . Everybody was playing Light/dark, black luster soldier. There was no other way

[@adambraun1990]

I consider myself a “casual competitive” player. I usually play casually, just whenever someone I know wants to duel, but when I get a chance I do like to compete if I can, just to see how I do. I also like to brainstorm with other Duelists on my deck (or if I can see a strategy in theirs they may not) and try to grow and get better at the game...but just for fun though. Win or lose, I still have fun and after the match if we’ve got time, I’ll usually ask my opponent for input to see what they’ve got to say about how I played and if they ask me, I’m glad to give my opinions and insights. At the end of the day, it’s all a game and I’m just there to have fun.

[@tatsuyas.drakensang4826]

Although I study the game and its more complicated nuances, and understand competitive play, I think myself as a casual because I don't go to eventes, just play with friends, and I have no absolute talent or clue on actually good deckbuilding. And, that being said, oh boy, your videos help me a lot on understanding the game better.

[@lightning0938]

That was the anime Ra effect because Marik made up a new effect for it each time he summoned it. So if it really had every effect it'd be a college essay

[@arsia.]

goblin elite attack force is hilarious for this xD

[@viperlouco]

"When you build the deck you claim to be very powerfull but can't win againist certain decks: that's meta bullshit"

[@HyperKnuckles01]

I really feel a lot of these people should just quit Yugioh. Not because they're bad or anything, but they obviously don't enjoy it, so why do something you don't enjoy?

[@tanith117]

They do enjoy it, Only they enjoy it in their small group with little outside knowledge, or they got butthurt after getting slaughtered by a less casual player.

[@HalozillaEX]

I remember when I first started playing yugioh. I brought a thrown together deck to school and tried to summon great moth from my hand, but the kids there told me that the game isnt played like that and how the anime was wrong. I started to learn the actual game from there on out. I havent played against another person in years, but always kept my deck around. These days, I've invested in a an actual, competitive blue eyes deck, pot of desires and all. Not because I intend to use it, but just for my own satisfaction.

[@dustynvega]

DR XYZ = Dark Rebellion XYZ Dragon? I think?

[@dirtydan9636]

You guy remember the deck name Pepe I thought it was Pepe the frog

[@TTRPGSarvis]

I mean...My favorite Deck is Skull Servants. I'm completely aware that a meta deck in a tournament would beat me down. But I'm kinda okay with that. I'm perfectly willing to admit that the Current Yu-Gi-Oh meta really intimidates me, and I can't even keep up with what's going on anymore. Whatever's going on there takes more skill than I have. Both Competitive and casual play are fine. Just NEVER mix the two.

[@catalysts94]

Exactly. Best part I you can still enjoy the game.

[@thegoodoldays911]

But I want to extra link someone that's only playing bad main deck monsters.

[@phantomnite]

I love skull servants too though, these days I'm mainly using Evil twins. They're super fun and can beat decks like drytron if your opponent doesn't play the main ritual

[@supersendojarren]

"noble knights are best, you aren't gonna beat me" *proceeds to OTK with chemicritters*

[@VaderTheWhite]

I laughed my ass off at the "Cyberdarks for advanced duelists." Look, I love Cyberdarks. I've been wanting to build a Cyberdark deck since I was in high school, when the only cards were Keel, Horn, Edge, Dragon, and Impact. The reason I'm getting back into Yu-Gi-Oh is BECAUSE of the Cyberdark Structure Deck that's only 2 months away from the TCG release. I never thought they were even necessarily good when I wanted to build it in high school, I just liked them. Just liking a deck is fine, but don't act like it is secretly super powerful. NOTE: Yes, I know I'm commenting on a video from 2018, years before the new Cyberdark support in Cyber Strike. I understood that before I started this comment.

[@freyathedragon899]

I once played a tag duel with this one guy who called me out for using a Simochi deck. The asshole read my whole hand out to my opponents, cussed me out, embarrassed me in front of our opponents, and then terminated the connection before I had a chance to retaliate. That was my first elitist, and I kicked his ass the next time I saw him.

[@slaw1990]

Let’s be honest, these comments have a common thread - they all think they’re anime protagonists

[@PuffyJetsnake]

I'm a filthy casual player who runs a blue eyes/felgrand/galaxy-eyes deck and I could build a home with all the bricks it got me. I will say though, I have to give the comp fellas props for being able to build a ton of these nutty decks that us casual guys like to often emulate to a modest degree. I know full well I'd get my ass handed to me against a competitive player but I'd still accept the challenge/beatdown

[@walkaroundincircles]

I don't play the game anymore and play MtG I just enjoy hearing about other card games and you're the only YGO youtuber I subscribe to. Elitist casuals are also annoying in MtG since they can't understand that people actually enjoy going to big tournaments and events like Grand Prixs and Opens so they play tiered decks so they don't scrub out after paying a $50 entry fee and I'm not surprised YGO has these kinds of people as well. It's honestly annoying because they have this belief that tournament players think they're better than them when we're just enjoying the game in our own way and don't really care if they're off having their own fun. Hell a lot of us even play casual formats like Commander and Horde so the idea that we're always playing hyper competitive decks is completely wrong. Commander itself was made by judges even.

[@catalysts94]

It’s the worst when a more scrubby casual player makes the notion that competitive players don’t have fun/can’t have fun.

[@tanith117]

To be fair, I have a competitive friend who plays High tier decks in commander who has had to start Self nerfing to be able to play the game with us instead of just Winning turn 3 and letting us fight for 2nd.

[@Dualities]

there is a difference between being competitive and regularly visiting turneys. everybody is competitive

[@olddeon9863]

Has to be the same guys who stroll up to locals and expect to win because they have "a far deeper understanding of the game" from watching the anime when they were kids.

[@Oni_SmokeCG]

Actually, dinos have a secret effect, if you summon 5 dinossaurs you can activate the meteor that killed them millions of years ago, ensuring you an instant win, just like exodia

[@NineTailedFiend]

Pretty sure these sorts of players can be summed up with this; "Just because Yugi/The Pharaoh can pull off Off-Meta strategies in a fictional anime does not mean anyone can play average or low tier cards and expect pristine results." A thousand games at the dinner or lunch table pales in comparison to 20 games in a competitive environment.

[@iliketutles8525]

Culex Nunyabizness Yugi stacks his deck when the camera pans away

[@acetraker1988]

Side Note: I started since the first booster pack, I played in locals formats that had original perfect circle monarchs, goat control, chaos, Glad Beast, Teledad, Lightsworn. I know that even with the best deck you need skill to fight in high end top 8 / 32 in large events. As mirror match ups are the worst I really don't like them.... as I don't find them fun due to how they are at the high end. The players who say meta decks require no skill, must really never have netdecks a top deck an actually used it against other good players and other top meta decks. It easy to know within seconds you can win unless you have a strong understanding of how the decks play and interact.

[@berserkerciaran]

And then there's me, "creating" a deck with just 3x of each card in an archetype I like the flavor of, plus random Mirror Forces and Trap Holes (and a Scrap-Iron Scarecrow bcause why not). Also, I consistently win in casual matches because the last deck I "built" is a Gouki deck

[@furymonger5395]

Same

[@dracompb966]

There's a special place in hell for people that call cards unbalanced solely based on the fact that they're expensive. I've seen some dumbasses say shit like "Ash Blossom would be more balanced if it was easier to get", and it drives me up the wall like THAT'S NOT HOW CARD BALANCE WORKS

[@THEN00BINATORX3]

im gonna generalize here. most casual players are most likely in middle schoolers who play with their group of friends, went to a card shop once and got bodied. so rather than get better than the card shop players, got salty and just stuck to their friends. so, i used to be in this group minus the elitist and scrub mentality simply because i couldnt afford the good stuff. so i just took the mentality of, okay since i cant play with the good stuff, im gonna study what i can to make sure that when i was able to afford the stuff i knew what i could do to become a better player. this was way back in 2010-2012. now im playing lightsworn zombies and dinos my advice to these players, just find a good paying job. buy your stuff gradually. all you need to do is be patient. if you arent smart with money you wont be able to afford to live and play yugioh at the same time. it is expensive but it isnt impossible to play smart

[@noukan42]

You can't be more wrong. Are you familiar whit the 3 player types of magic the gathering? Most casual player belong to the "timmy" category: timmies play for the experience, and chose their deck based on thing like artworks, big numbers or the fact that their favorite anime character used it. They are more interested to win on their own terms (which in yugi usually mean by using some huge,animesque play)than to win as many games as possible. It like the difference beetwen the people that play the adventure of a pokemon game using their favorites and those that ladder on smogon. No play style is more or less valid.

[@noukan42]

For example i am a jhonny and even if i am not playing right now, i took some interest in ABC just because A-to-Z exist. I simply value the "bragging right" of having summoned it over the higher win% that i coul get whit an optimal abc build.

[@THEN00BINATORX3]

sono un idiota i was generalizing. and no. i play magic never heard of the johnny types. all im saying is that stereo typically the people that get upset over metaplayers are just people who have this mindset of pay to win. the point i was making is yes, yugioh is pay to win sometimes but eventually a person with patience will be able to get decks that they can win with. as i said in the OP, i am generalizing. i was a casual player but i didnt want to suck at the game. so i studied it and was patient with the game. i kept striving to get better rather than complain. a lot of players as demonstrated in this video just hate on better players simply because they cant beat them for whatever reason

[@noukan42]

Mtg card maker have 3 "types" of player in mind when they create new cards. Timmies, Jhonnies, and spikes. I already covered timmies. Spikes are the tournament player that just play what is the best at the moment . Making spike card is easy, you just need to make them strong. Jhonnies like the deckbuilding aspect and value creativity and uniqueness. Usually they like card that are "awesome but impractical" and try to find ways to make those more effective. ABC is an intersting archetype because it has something for everyone: timmies get "kaiba cards", jhonny get the challenge of summoning A-to-Z and spikes gets a competitive deck. You seem to be a spike for example and i wanted to explainn what is in mind of timmies and jhinnies to make easier understanding how this game work(but the timmy-jhonny-spike division exist in a lot of game and is generally very useful). Not everyone play to win as much as possible.

[@noukan42]

magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/timmy-johnny-and-spike-2013-12-03

[@iBenjamin1000]

welcome to 2020 my favorite way of approaching the Dark Magician deck is "Dragoon machine go brrrrrr"

[@Gadlight]

You know there is this twitter account called ScrubquotesX who deals daily dose of rants of casuals in fighting games, but lately they are branching out a bit. They need to compile YgoScrubquotes too it seems.

[@TheOriginal009]

Someone needs to do this.

[@thevaporeonkid3456]

I think what the guy at 6:32 means by personal deck is that a deck that you made from the ground up without any sort of outside help, and the we part is referring to every person that made decks like that. Now I understand what they mean because the one time me and my friend when to a pokemon TCG locals (I know it's not related to yu-gi-oh, but it's related to what I'm saying) and while we used decks that we build ourselves, a lot of others used decks that we're more competitively viable and available online to view and probably cost a good amount of money to make.

[@Joshmanikus]

I love how you refer to these guys as "players" lol I wouldn't even go close to there

[@darthvaderreviews6926]

I'm personally not a competitive person, when I did play YGO (and as I've been enjoying Hearthstone for the past several years) I've always been a casual and have never personally had the desire to try and move up the competitive ladder. I'll always prioritise building a deck that's fun to play over a deck that wins, hence why if I do get back into YGO, I don't think I'll be removing Magic Cylinder ;) However, neither casual play or competitive play is universally "better", it all depends on what you're looking to get out of a game and which playstyle is more desirable depends completely on the person playing. Elitists, be they casual or pro, just end up being assholes to the other side and don't really help anything. Not to mention that, at least personally speaking, even from a casual perspective there's a lot to love out of the competitive angle of things. I don't think I'd enjoy competitive YGO, but I absolutely enjoy these videos analysing what works and what doesn't in competitive YGO as well as going over its history, because it's fun to observe from an outside perspective and I think, despite me never playing in a YGO competition in my life, I'd have a dimmer view of the cardgame without that competitive experience being there.

[@TomtomTM1]

Color me corrected, but I believe Ra's effect to have collective effect was in some video game? I am really not sure, but I believe that was a thing at some point. Maybe it just happened in the anime and I remember incorrectly.

[@eririspencersawamura5291]

It has that effect in the early Tagforce games

[@Pkgymmtr]

and in every single DS game. (Still didn't make it good)

[@hoppyman11]

Seinaru I've got this one, that's a skill for Marik in Duel Links.

[@TomtomTM1]

Oh. I didn't play Duel Links all that much, doubt I got it from there

[@xdarkangerx7601]

It also had that effect in the weird GBA games (the not-card simulator ones like Sacred Cards and Reshif of Destruction), but when you look at how far they are from the actual TGC, it gets a bit hard to take that effect seriously...

[@muda8616]

44,000 atk ? laughs in 1 BILLION ATTACK BEAVER WARRIOR

[@chaos_magician6689]

Those who complain about people playing the meta decks don’t understand that people play them to have the best chances to win in competitive tournaments. Yeah, you can play rouge, but how many have actually made it to the top cut as frequent as the meta in tournaments? Not many.

[@gameking8809]

Or maybe YOU don´t understand that they are just criticizing that the game is too unbalanced.

[@jigglestheclown219]

I agree, but people who play meta decks should understand the frustration of wanting to play competitively, and wanting to win, but being unable to afford a better deck because the top-tier decks are all unreasonably expensive.

[@Kintaku]

Dude. You were so nice in the way you approached and I appreciate you poking fun without being mean. That 3rd guy man smh. Red Eyes is my favorite deck in YuGiOh, but pure Red Eyes is just bad. You can’t be mad at the meta when you’re playing Red Eyes. You just take your occasional wins and be grateful 😂

[@electrocast]

GOD these comments remind me of me back before I attended my first tournament, which was just a local one of less than 20 players, and got my ass handed to me badly -- it's clear people like this haven't even experienced that, much less any official event lol

[@jonmichaelgalindo]

You're not playing real yugioh unless you're arguing about whether you can do something they did in the anime.

[@ShadowCrescent]

6:30 Make this comment into a meme please! I'm crying of laughter.

[@huk6249]

First dude finally got his dream come true with Ancient Chant

[@blacktimhoward4322]

I'm a rocket league player unwarranted arrogance gets me hot

[@AzureKite]

Every competitive game to be honest... I've seen this behaviour from League of Legends players and it's just as hilarious (and ocasionally infuriating)

[@xbotscythe]

May I add overwatch

[@Wii4000]

"Everyone has their own ace card. Yours just happens to not be the Dark Magician." Because Brilliant Fusion is your ace card. xD

[@trappyboi8678]

Casual Elitists = Yugi Meta Elitists = Kaiba

[@ellienixon3437]

3:50

[@kurtmostat8491]

I feel attacked by the title

[@sblower9410]

Best case scenario you walk away knowing your not the dumbest person in the room. Worst case scenario you walk away knowing you'll be smarter tomorrow.