The SECRET Black Cat Spider-Woman Connection!

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@davidgranados1608
@davidgranados1608 2 жыл бұрын
When they dated, I thought it was interesting how she preferred the Spider-Man persona over Peter Parker. To the point where she hated seeing him in his civilian identity.
@MysteryFoxx3506
@MysteryFoxx3506 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the simple addition of Black Cat having actual superpowers separated her from Catwoman but much like Spiderwoman that’s been so inconsistent over the years I have no idea what she can do now… So yeah, I would enjoy that powers video if you don’t mind.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 жыл бұрын
The decision that she was only prepping her battlefields rather than having actual luck did lead to interesting character drama with Spidey flipping out that since she's now trying to be a hero the villains are going to be picking the battlefields. But I did sort of like her with the vague luck power. Put her in a team with Longshot, Domino, that one Irish hero chick and some of the other luck heroes as a gag one-off. See if you can get John Jackson Miller to write it, he wrote outrageous swings of luck very well in his Star Wars KotOR comic.
@thebandwagonfanpodcast
@thebandwagonfanpodcast 2 жыл бұрын
Same. It adds another layer to the character.
@227060
@227060 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the key difference is that Felicia is ultimately a thrill seeker who is WRONG for Spidey whilst Selina has deeper motives behind what she does and is ironically Bruce's perfect woman. I think catwoman also has a longer history of being on the good side whereas Black Cat has flitted between them more
@vic5015
@vic5015 2 жыл бұрын
Felicia and Selina are very similar. So much so that I'm surprised DC hasn't sued Marvel. Both, however, could be said to draw from similar source material: the idea of a film noir femme Fatale Cat burglar. Similarly, both DC and Marvel have supervillains named The Enchantress. But the concept of a seductive femme Fatale who uses her sexuality to manipulate men is one that exists throughout mythology and legends across cultures. Neither DC nor Marvel originated the idea, so neither one owns it and, therefore, they cannot sue over it.
@jhornacek
@jhornacek 2 жыл бұрын
She originally didn't have powers. In her next appearance they revealed that she would go to certain places and set traps, then lead people there and things would go wrong and she'd claim it was her "bad luck powers". Eventually she and Spidey became a couple but he worried about her getting hurt fighting villains. So she went and got actual bad-luck powers from scientists who turned out to be working for the Kingpin. She had lost and regained these powers over the years so I don't really know if she still has them now.
@robsyers8647
@robsyers8647 2 жыл бұрын
I imagined Black Cat having a "Lois Lane Room" for Spiderman being an actual Lois Lane Room, filled with images, and statues of Lois Lane, but with pictures of Spiderman's head taped over the faces....
@pqcowboychanel
@pqcowboychanel 2 жыл бұрын
No… they are spider masks over them
@Cesaryeyo
@Cesaryeyo 2 жыл бұрын
Due to a misunderstanding Felicia thinks Lois is Spider-Man so she marries her (she's handsome, so Lois will do it).
@daverhoden445
@daverhoden445 2 жыл бұрын
Cut to Superman in an empty Lois Lane room. :D
@Mario_Angel_Medina
@Mario_Angel_Medina 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cesaryeyo and now I'm imagining a queer version of those "Lois marries someone who isn't Superman" covers. Lois marrying Wonder Woman while looking at a sad Superman and a thinks "I said I will marry the strongest member of the Justice League so his pride is as hurt as his heart now". Lois marrying The Enchantress while a desperate Superman says "Lois will marry a villianess, and there's nothing I can do about it because I'm weak to magic!" Lois marrying Lana Lang, Lori Lamaris and Lex Luthor while Superman thinks "I can't believe they let me out of their polyamorous collective!" ... do someone knows Kerry Callen's phone number?
@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388
@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388 2 жыл бұрын
This is metal.
@booksvsmovies
@booksvsmovies 2 жыл бұрын
14:20 Felicia really said ACAB, including Spider-Man. But it's a bit hard to take her seriously when the entire panel is just "look at her butt!"
@CasuallyComics
@CasuallyComics 2 жыл бұрын
Lol both these issues are basically. Look at her butt!!
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 2 жыл бұрын
I liked how in the animated series Black Cat is given the same formula Capt. America was given :P
@Beast-jb6iv
@Beast-jb6iv 2 жыл бұрын
I still remembered most of this from when I read like 40 years of Spidey comicsc a few years back so this time I locked into some more weird details like when Betty Brant slapped Peter I contemplated on how Pete must have moved his head with her hand or he probably would've shattered her hand with his cheekbones.
@CasuallyComics
@CasuallyComics 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I think about that in every silver age comic when anyone slaps Superman
@spacemanspiralcatzero
@spacemanspiralcatzero 2 жыл бұрын
@@CasuallyComics “Papa spank!”
@Mario_Angel_Medina
@Mario_Angel_Medina 2 жыл бұрын
The classic trope of "punches only feel painful when a love-interest is the one hitting the hero" ... _Naruto_ did that a lot
@zachwise476
@zachwise476 2 жыл бұрын
To me, Black Cat was the 1 toy from the 90s animated series that I wanted but could not have. I bought it as an adult because it haunted me for a good 18 years.
@MrKodachii
@MrKodachii 2 жыл бұрын
My brain: We are an adult now...we can buy what we want ... *googles black cat figures*
@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388
@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Legends version.
@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm
@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm 2 жыл бұрын
The Church of the Algorithm officially certifies this video in the ones and zeroes of The Recommending Holiness.
@josephkolar3443
@josephkolar3443 2 жыл бұрын
Spectacular Spider-Man put an even bigger twist on their relationship by making Felicia’s father Uncle Ben’s killer.
@robertrowley4929
@robertrowley4929 Жыл бұрын
I loved that twist!
@timross5351
@timross5351 2 жыл бұрын
Although I can't deny that the characters are very similar, somehow Felicia's personality as an individual seems to shine through all of her writers. I think part of this is how the brightness and fun (dare I say Manic Pixie Dream Girl in 2022?) contrasts with the femme fatale aspect. It is almost as if Catwoman is moving more toward being like Black Cat. The real difference between them could easily have been the fact that Felicia had super powers, but somehow it is deeper than that. She channels a lot of 'crazy ex-girlfiend that you should not like but do' energy, unlike Catwoman who somehow seems more genuinely dangerous. I wonder whether they are the same being in the Amalgam universe.
@weathermangohanssj4
@weathermangohanssj4 2 жыл бұрын
@@keithpl5438 Nah, just played by Eartha Kitt.
@AmySwain03
@AmySwain03 2 жыл бұрын
@@keithpl5438 catwoman has been black before so she can just be black
@AmySwain03
@AmySwain03 2 жыл бұрын
@@keithpl5438 but the shed just be cat woman so why not just call an amalgam of them, the cat
@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388
@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388 2 жыл бұрын
I sure Black Cat was copied from the 60s TV Catwoman. Usually, she is cooler than Catwoman.
@jbsgk55
@jbsgk55 2 жыл бұрын
Even if she herself moderately resembles Catwoman, Peter is so different from Bruce that it almost doesn't matter?
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 2 жыл бұрын
Peter is more like Tim :P
@Malthizar
@Malthizar 2 жыл бұрын
Almost polar opposite when you think about it
@gregcourtney751
@gregcourtney751 2 жыл бұрын
To me they are both studies in how we deal with trauma, but different kinds of trauma. Batman is how we deal with trauma from one major event while spidey is about being selfless depiste the many "traumas" of everyday life and compounding major trauma. The feels of their worlds are different sure. I still see them as mirrors of each other kinda.
@Noahs_Chair
@Noahs_Chair 4 ай бұрын
IDK, it's not really a "this is the same" to me as much as "I could be reading the better one" since the Black Cat personality anoys me more than anything and I don't think a Femme fatal works nearly as well with a joking character like Spiderman than a more stoic presence like Batman. Specially since unlike Bruce, Peter is always on romantic triangles bullshit which gets really annoying but I will admit that's more a general problem than a Black Cat specific problem. It just hurts her more than others.
@Lukecash2
@Lukecash2 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest complain was Kevins Smiths story. One of the things I loved about Black Cat was the fact she did love her father and wanted to be like him. It was a refreshing reason to be a bad guy. The whole date rape aspect aspect Kevin Smith just turned her into a cheap revenge origin and cast an unnecessary dark shadow on a fun character.
@wdcain1
@wdcain1 2 жыл бұрын
That story upsets me so much. The art is amazing and the first three issues are legit great. I'd just retcon it that was all just fake illusions Mysterio pulled.
@ExeErdna
@ExeErdna 2 жыл бұрын
Her story was already "Dark" because she always knew about her father's actions and how all her wealth is because of things he did. Her burden was her legacy, edge for edgy sake isn't good storytelling
@jhornacek
@jhornacek 2 жыл бұрын
It's like there's a rule in comics (or fiction) that if there's a well written and established female character, eventually some male writer will want to write a story where either she gets raped or it's revealed she was raped in her past.
@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388
@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin Smith is a trash edgelord. I also hate what he did to Karen Page.
@NoJusticeNoPeace
@NoJusticeNoPeace 2 жыл бұрын
They need to stop giving Kevin Smith comics to ruin. Thanks to him, we will now forever know that in the legendary and iconic Year One scene where Batman smashes in the wall and tells the rulers of Gotham that they will no longer act with impunity, he had pee trickling into his boots.
@thebandwagonfanpodcast
@thebandwagonfanpodcast 2 жыл бұрын
Black Cat has always been a fun character, especially after the 90s Spidey cartoon. Yeah, you can make the Catwoman comparison but there's still enough for them to be distinct.
@johnmattson8280
@johnmattson8280 2 жыл бұрын
I recall a time when Felicia was dating Flash Thompson. It was a running subplot and even had at least one double date with Peter and MJ. It was ended when Felicia confessed she started it only to make Peter jealous. I do wish they'd touched back on this when Flash was Venom as it could have been amusing.
@GenerationWest
@GenerationWest 2 жыл бұрын
That whole debate about Catwoman and Black Cat being a "copycat"... Heh, is so funny, because just doing a little bit of research, Catwoman was nothing Black Cat around this time, not until the 80's and 90's, then really when she was redesigned by Darwyn Cooke. Other than the flirting, you can say Catwoman took cues from Black Cat. If the 1994 series (which she's the Gwen Stacy standin for the most of the show, and then becomes a ripped super soldier Black Cat) I don't know if she'd be that well known, everywhere, or a J. Scott Campbell CoverGirl icon that she is today. Also, my boy from Insomniac Games Spider-Man was hit by Black Cat's greatest weapon: The thought of being a father.
@RobertJazo
@RobertJazo 2 жыл бұрын
I was around at the time and bought the comic she first appeared in off the rack and at the time I thought she was a bit of a rip off of Catwoman. Specifically, she reminded me of the Julie Newmar version of Catwoman from the old Batman TV series. This isn't to take away from Black Cat as a character, and I'll admit that once you look into her journey from idea to the comics page it doesn't look like it was an intentional attempt to rip off by Catwoman by her creators.
@Lukecash2
@Lukecash2 2 жыл бұрын
Catwoman had several different designs throughout her years. But Julie Newmar pulled off the black spandex that both Black Cat and Later Catwoman adopted. But Selina has been on the prowl, pulling of cat burglaries since the beginning. Often hopping around rooftops. The only difference was she wore a long dress. Cook only created a really great fictional suit for her.
@Melkac
@Melkac 2 жыл бұрын
Might want to call it Insomniac Spider-Man or Gamerverse Spider-Man, I thought you were talking about the PS1 game for a bit.
@willejones1918
@willejones1918 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Mymloch
@Mymloch 2 жыл бұрын
For me, it's not so much of a "will they, won't they" with Felicia and Peter... As far as I'm concerned, the Spectacular Spider-Man run from '83 to '87 clearly shows that "they already did.... a lot". I really enjoyed them as a pair in that time, as she was pretty much in every issue for 4 years or so.
@citpeks2000
@citpeks2000 2 жыл бұрын
I bought these issues at the newstand when I was a kid, and I remember liking the Black Cat a lot. I haven't re-read them in 30+ years, so I have no idea how adult me would feel about it, but at the time the stories did the job they were supposed to and got me to buy more issues.
@renosh1323
@renosh1323 2 жыл бұрын
I think Black Cat's costume looks like it is based after the original Black Cat where the current Catwoman is more based after Miss. Fury. The protagonist being attracted to bad girl(or boy) in hopes to change them or walk the dark side didn't start with Batman and Catwoman but that is a very popular one. Terry and the Pirates I think did it first with the Dragon Lady but she wasn't 'cat' themed which is where I think the main connection people see Catwoman and Black Cat having in common with the purrrfect pussy-cat puns.
@fennerarmstrong3346
@fennerarmstrong3346 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Black Cat fan so I knew most of this already, but God did it feel good to hear Sasha talking about her. Great video!
@PhoenixSpider
@PhoenixSpider 2 жыл бұрын
I love cosplaying black cat. She was my first and still my favourite
@sneakyskunk1
@sneakyskunk1 2 жыл бұрын
That rant about Betty was, hands down, one of the best things in this video. I have never agreed more with(and laughed so hard at) a point being made.
2 жыл бұрын
The Black Cat/Felicia has been always a mysterious character to me, the first time I read about her she was shot to death. When I was a child and long before I started to collect comics, I used to read every comic that come to my hands, some of them of Siperman's, I don't remember the title of the issue but it was the very first I read with Black Cat/ Felicia in and it was the conclusion of an arc when they face Doctor Octopus, the issue started with them badly injured, Doc Ock's artificial arms splattered but still moving and Black Cat sacrifices herself to save Spiderman from been shot to death, luckily in spite of her wounds Felicia survives. I was like 9 or 10 years old, it was the first time I saw that kind of violence in a Spiderman story and in a comic book - my only reference so far then were some reprints from the Comic Code era and the TV cartoons from the 60's and even though there were some guns and shots, there were no blood. Speaking of cartoons: Now after watched this video I cannot stop imagining how would it bee and appearance of Black Cat on the Spiderwoman's cartoons if she was a villain to Jessica Drew's. Now let me talk you a story: back then when I was a child, at the 80s, it happened that time - and it happens pretty much the same right now-, that the one Mexican editorial company had acquired both DC and Marvel rights to reprint and translate to Spanish and make some adaptations to the most popular titles of both companies in order to make them more relatable to Latinamerican countries - that's why in Mexico and Latinamerica Batman, Robin, Batgirl, as the main example of it, them kept their superhero name but used to have secret identities in Spanish, being Bruno Díaz, Ricardo Tapia and Bárbara Fierro (that makes her father el Comisionado Fierro) repectively; sometimes the names of some heroes and or support characters were translated too, like Mujer Maravilla for Wonder Woman and we used to pronounce her name Diana as it sounds in Spanish - actually is the same name with the same spelling- and Prince was kept, almost the same case but slightly different is Lois Lane's case who we used to call Luisa Lane (keeping the phonetic sound not so much the correct pronunciation of their last names in English); and one special case is Catwoman's who was given the name Gatúbela instead of Mujer gato. In the case of Marvel characters the translation was not so much of the secret identities but mostly of the name of the heroes: Hombre Araña, Mujer Araña Doctor Pulpo, Duende verde, la Gata Negra; Los Hombres X: Profesor X, Cíclope, Chica Marvel, Bestia, Hombre de hielo, Ángel, Glotón for Wolverine, Tormenta; Los Vengadores: Capitán América, Hombre de Hierro, Viuda Negra, Hombre Hormiga, Bruja Escarlata, la Avispa, Visión; Los Cuatro Fantásticos: Hombre increíble sometimes also known as el Hombre elástico, la Mujer Invisible, la Antorcha humana, and as for the Thing the literal translation "la Cosa" didn't work for them so they decided to call him la Mole (please do not mistake it for the traditional Mexican dish which name is spelled and pronounced the same "mole") which means huge massive object or material. I am so sorry I've written like an ancient scroll here.
@MrKodachii
@MrKodachii 2 жыл бұрын
Man I would love to see a Black Cat movie done right. She was always in interesting character for me.
@Neo232100
@Neo232100 2 жыл бұрын
It should also be noted that, for me, one of the reasons I like Black Cat as a love interest for Peter is that there are opportunities for interesting stories with the two, such as Felicia initially only really caring for Spider-Man over Peter, but coming to realize that attitude is wrong and other potential things, I also do like that the two are somewhat of a match for each other, both in sense of humor and abilities.
@VDOTU5
@VDOTU5 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wonder if you'll run out of hairstyles to put on 😆. I hope not, I love your variety of dues!
@ThatJohnKillion1970
@ThatJohnKillion1970 2 жыл бұрын
Sasha: "The more well-known Black Cat was developed--" Me: "Yes, yes she was."
@jasonguinn6075
@jasonguinn6075 2 жыл бұрын
That Tex Avery cartoon is awesomeness!!! I love Felicia Hardy. Her character has waxed and waned it depends on the creative team. Those PETER PARKER SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN issues where Doc Ock almost kills her stands out in my memory. I would have loved seeing her as a foil for JESSICA DREW. Yeah, Betty Brant was dogged a lot throughout her history in Spidey's supporting cast.
@alexwimberly1268
@alexwimberly1268 2 жыл бұрын
I always preferred Spidey and Black Cat over Batman and Catwoman since S & BC tend to be more dynamic, cutesy and flirty rather that bats and cats just bouncing sarcastic quips and "our love is forbidden" drama. Also Black Cat is a really fun character by herself
@rasheedsanders1067
@rasheedsanders1067 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that Peter took Felicia to therapist after her speech. No matter how good someone looks from behind you always want to make sure they're well.
@TheCheshireKing
@TheCheshireKing 2 жыл бұрын
The description of the intended original costume of Black Cat sounds exactly how her winter criminal costume looks in Future Fight.
@leonardhayhurst9562
@leonardhayhurst9562 2 жыл бұрын
"Black Cat was dogged..." I see what you did there.
@DetroitAlan01
@DetroitAlan01 2 жыл бұрын
That dialogue. That imagery. The panel featured at 8:22, just wow. Dim the lights, put on some Sade and just get crazy. Almost too much wrong (alternatively, too much right) to fit in a single panel. Yet, they found a way.
@macuna1995
@macuna1995 2 жыл бұрын
5:17 "To read comic books." -Grant Morrison, probably... Grant knows what life is.
@tyraljungn8698
@tyraljungn8698 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the fur addition to her suit it makes her look interesting.
@tskmaster3837
@tskmaster3837 2 жыл бұрын
7:14 I was just thinking "Why is Quentin Beck in the background" but no, it's not him, it's Mysterio in disguise. Right... There are times I love the character and there are times I really love the character. Reminds me of that time Spider-man demasked a psychiatrist trying to learn Spider-man's true identity, remarking "it's my old foe... Mysterio!" No wonder Beck has self-esteem issues... not Mysterio, just Beck somehow.
@davidmallette8079
@davidmallette8079 2 жыл бұрын
Black Cat is younger and that changes how we treat the relationship, like they are not forty like Batman was.
@Lukecash2
@Lukecash2 2 жыл бұрын
Technically Batman nor Catwoman are forty. They would definitely be late 20s early 30s. The Dark Knight is when people started thinking about Batman as old.
@davidmallette8079
@davidmallette8079 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lukecash2 I agree, about the age but how Batman acted back then was a father/ the way DC did things back then. Spider-man is a student. Sometimes with Batman's kid, and the new timelines Bruce must had Damian before The bat. Happens when half of what is was is but it all happened in five years instead of 15.
@jhornacek
@jhornacek 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmallette8079 Peter aged in real-time until he got to university, then they slowed things down so he was at ESU for many years. But at the time of this issue he had graduated.
@davidmallette8079
@davidmallette8079 2 жыл бұрын
@@jhornacek yeah, but till civil war they treat him that way. Now they do not know how to keep him in a role, when he lead the Earth mightiest.
@jhornacek
@jhornacek 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmallette8079 Actually around the issues in these stories Peter is either in post-grad school or about to enter it. He eventually gets married and stays married for 20 years realtime and is about to become a father. Peter grew and matured during all of this time. He was definitely in his mid-20s by this point. It was only when One More Day happened and Quesada got rid of the Spider-Marriage that they both de-aged and de-matured Peter. It got even worse when Dan Slott was writing ASM.
@dennismason3740
@dennismason3740 2 жыл бұрын
Do you remember when Sasha did awkward dancing with weird cropping? That episode literally was voted "Most Adorable Video in KZbin" by all Cat Videos.
@MauriceMGrayJr
@MauriceMGrayJr 2 жыл бұрын
You should do my favorite Black Cat appearance- in issues 20-21 of the second What If? series- What If? Spiderman Married Black Cat? I always wondered what might happen if he'd chosen her over MJ, and that two issue set gave me one possibility.
@WarmLillie
@WarmLillie 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you can say it’s time to get the cat out of bag.
@81bats61
@81bats61 2 жыл бұрын
I always gets her father (Walter) and the Black Fox confused. Amazing Spider Man 350 is still one of my favorite stories from my childhood....yayaya I'm old.
@fifirandom97
@fifirandom97 2 жыл бұрын
your spidey narration is the superior version I needed on this day
@AABB-bm9kk
@AABB-bm9kk 2 жыл бұрын
She is mostly Marvel’s Cat Woman -🤔 But that (basically) same character and relationship with the hero is so much fun that you don’t get tired of it 😉✌️
@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388
@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388 2 жыл бұрын
The 70s Spider-Woman cartoon is awesome. She was written like Superman in it.
@aVerveQuest
@aVerveQuest Жыл бұрын
"she's more exposition now than cat" Might be your best libe ever
@grahamcann1761
@grahamcann1761 2 жыл бұрын
I started reading comics, and enjoying movies, in the late 60's, and this is just another case of "doesn't age well" and "how did I miss this?" (Especially when thinking about it as a parent of daughters, and grand-daughters.) As always thank you so very much for the video.
@douglasphillips5870
@douglasphillips5870 2 жыл бұрын
Banter is a Spider-Man thing, and it's nice seeing someone who can banter back.
@RickReasonnz
@RickReasonnz 2 жыл бұрын
Damn... that's quite the Erkel you got in for Peter :O
@ghoulgirl99
@ghoulgirl99 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to hear your Spidey voice for the rest of my life now (before the voice was more like the 90s cartoon or sometimes Tobey)
@kemmdog4444
@kemmdog4444 2 жыл бұрын
My first meeting with Felicia was in ASM 316 when she wanted to rekindle her relationship with Peter without knowing he got married and Venom broke her nose.Then she romanced Flash Thompson to later break his heart to hurt Pete.
@macmay3042
@macmay3042 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, has an animated show every drawn criticism for Spider-man going down on Black Cat? If not, then they are entirely different characters.
@bensneb360
@bensneb360 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Keith Pollard put a lot of booty cheesecake in these issues, which I do enjoy, but it’s like he was bummed he couldn’t put it on the cover and decided to put it in everything else… Ha, bummed, unintentional puns are always the best puns lol
@CasuallyComics
@CasuallyComics 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I thought that too!
@biffstrong1079
@biffstrong1079 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't his Spider Sense let him know when bad luck was going to assault him? So is the stalking scrap book the replacement for the Lois Lane mannequin room? It feels more spy, less serial killer.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 жыл бұрын
8:09 oh that sweet sweet pre-1986 NFA item inventory. Oh it's just an illegal dealer with a shockingly spacious hard to hide showroom.
@jpistolas
@jpistolas 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I've been enjoying the last two Black Cat series. Art's been good too.
@rebeccakickass1776
@rebeccakickass1776 2 жыл бұрын
I like this origin for the Black Cat because it leaves so much room for her to grow Thanks for making your videos, they both make me laugh and teach me about the history of the characters and the comic book industry
@dlee827
@dlee827 2 жыл бұрын
Characters only existing to preserve a trademark. (Every MU Captain Marvel starts crying.)
@Matthew.E.Kelly.
@Matthew.E.Kelly. 2 жыл бұрын
I love Black Cat & everything about her. Great video, as always!
@Jezee213
@Jezee213 Жыл бұрын
Your Peter voice is so great lol. Oh and shrine room Black Cat. Must be love then.
@kinginthenorth1437
@kinginthenorth1437 2 жыл бұрын
You might be interested to know that their are somehow 2 Wolverine and the Black Cat mini-series (with trade paperback collections) that seem mostly to exist because someone realized they could subtitle the series Claws.
@CDHASKELL
@CDHASKELL 2 жыл бұрын
I love your history of Black Cat. I still wish that Marvel Comics would create her own live series/film down the road.
@ryanauld2810
@ryanauld2810 2 жыл бұрын
“Everyone needs counselling” needs to be new merch!!!
@ILoveLuvia
@ILoveLuvia 2 жыл бұрын
You know It would be cool to see do a video one the Yancy street gang from the fantastic 4 comics lol. I hope you see this.
@TheRealSpiderMew
@TheRealSpiderMew 2 жыл бұрын
I had a big crush on Black Cat. I even had her Action Figure from the 90's cartoon. It was one of my favorite toys.
@TJUC123
@TJUC123 2 жыл бұрын
The way they treated poor Betty this issue. Poor Betty. 🤣
@devinkavanaugh1034
@devinkavanaugh1034 2 жыл бұрын
I love the little Hal salt you threw in lol
@justinedwards5047
@justinedwards5047 2 жыл бұрын
Your mind went to Carmen Sandiego, my mind went to Lady Dimetresque from resident evil
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 9 ай бұрын
*Sasha: **_"Just look at her calves. I am...."_* 🤭🤭🤭
@wdcain1
@wdcain1 2 жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of David Michelanie's original pitch for Venom as a woman. Marvel editors nixed it because they said _"female villains can only seduce heroes, not try to kill them."_
@thebandwagonfanpodcast
@thebandwagonfanpodcast 2 жыл бұрын
What could have been. Glad to see some changes in the landscape these days.
@jhornacek
@jhornacek 2 жыл бұрын
Plus his original Venom involved a miscarriage, probably not something Marvel wanted as a villain origin/motivation.
@wdcain1
@wdcain1 2 жыл бұрын
@@jhornacek Sue Storm of the FF had a miscarriage about four years before ASM #300 so I don't think that was an issue. From the interview with Michelanie I read, he said it was preciously because the editors didn't believe male heroes could have dangerous female villains. Typhoid Mary, the first female villain who straight up tried to kill a hero appeared just a couple months after ASM #300 and she also nailed Daredevil. It's sad but had Michelanie said She-Venom would also try to bang Peter before killing him then his bosses would probably have let him do it.
@justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097
@justanotherglorpsdaymornin5097 2 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man: I want to be remembered for the butts I kicked.
@danieldejesusfigueredoorop1428
@danieldejesusfigueredoorop1428 2 жыл бұрын
"she couldn´t sprung a murderer *spectacular Spiderman cartoon flashback*
@Mr.Smiley_J
@Mr.Smiley_J 2 жыл бұрын
I always loved Black Cat. I know she's all wrong for Peter but I don't care. Do it for me, Pete!
@jermainekngdom3154
@jermainekngdom3154 2 жыл бұрын
Take that back. Peter is wrong for her. He isn't st in relationship. He ignores her crimes.
@biffstrong1079
@biffstrong1079 Жыл бұрын
Isn't this how Catwoman went missing the first time, fell into the water.
@beezeejo
@beezeejo 2 жыл бұрын
Ima need a new Spiderman cartoon where Sasha voices all of the characters. Balls in your court Disney XD!
@samuelmiddleton7876
@samuelmiddleton7876 2 жыл бұрын
Betty and Ned both catch a case of what I like to call 'satellite syndrome'. it happens when characters become caricatures (sometimes permanently but not always) to make whomever the focal point of the plot is more interesting. by putting the decision in Peter's hands and punishing him for doing what in this case was the right thing ( instead of having an honest conversation about whether their relationship is worth fixing or not) Peter gets to pull out his sad puppy eyes for a couple panels and now has no reason not to go after Felicia. I can't think of any examples where it leads to anything good for the character that catches it, they either reset to what they were before they caught it, or get fridged.
@jhornacek
@jhornacek 2 жыл бұрын
"Betty and Ned both catch a case of what I like to call 'satellite syndrome'. it happens when characters become caricatures (sometimes permanently but not always) to make whomever the focal point of the plot is more interesting." You've pretty much described every supporting character throughout Spidey's history. They all act like this, even going back to the Lee/Ditko era. And don't be too quick to let Peter off the hook here - Betty had just gotten married, left Ned on their honeymoon, came back to New York, went to see Peter, and they slept together. So Peter had an affair with a married woman.
@andreterrell2798
@andreterrell2798 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of the Black Cat. Love reading Spider Man comics with the Black Cat in it. I'm waiting to hear news about the Black Cat solo movie and what director that's going to helm the Black Cat solo movie.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 2 жыл бұрын
The nasal Peter Parker voice is really funny.
@The.Riss77
@The.Riss77 2 жыл бұрын
I only came here to say that I will now forever think of Spiderman as Edward G. Robbinson.
@markthomas503
@markthomas503 2 жыл бұрын
"If Hal Jordan can use use that line...." lol....glad someone else is still scarred by that issue....
@R.J.Godzilla81
@R.J.Godzilla81 2 ай бұрын
Great video Sasha. I would love to see you do a part two to this video covering the Kevin Smith written mini-series Spider-Man/Black: Cat The Evil That Men Do
@AhmedAdd3Mana
@AhmedAdd3Mana 2 жыл бұрын
That MCU spoiler 🙊!!! Anyhow loved the video!
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 2 жыл бұрын
Sasha must have an entire room to store all her wigs.
@ChaosSkyX3
@ChaosSkyX3 2 жыл бұрын
Not Peter being voiced like Steve Urkel 🤣🤣🤣
@KierTheScrivener
@KierTheScrivener 2 жыл бұрын
Your 2020 Black Cat reviews are done of my favourite on your channel so this was nice!
@kratoscraken5614
@kratoscraken5614 2 жыл бұрын
Love listening to your comics talk in the mornings your like the perfect talk radio girl. And since you did the red spiderwoman then you have to be fair and do the other spiderwoman in the black suit with the blonde hair 👍
@Kierste_n
@Kierste_n 2 жыл бұрын
Yknow I don't like Marvel but I really like Black Cat. Her design and powers really vibe with me. If they ever decided to do anything with her MCU or animated wise I would probably watch it
@tec5x5
@tec5x5 2 жыл бұрын
More Black Cat please she is great
@erinkelley7101
@erinkelley7101 10 ай бұрын
Giving Jessica Drew a bad luck powered nemesis would also make it very hard for her to distinguish that anything put of the ordinary from her normal life when they fought. Also as a die hard Spiderwoman fan I really wish that this had happened because they are perfect foils: OG Spiderwoman attracts men and makes women fear her, making it nearly impossible to have a normal social life based on factors completely out of her control, while Black Cat uses her feminine charm as a matter of choice. They are both solitary but they could absolutely have a jealousy component over each other: black cat because Jess can seduce almost anyone without even trying and Spiderwoman because Selina could live a normal life and chooses not to
@johanprx7985
@johanprx7985 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe that the first Spiderman comic i ever had was the introduction of the Black Cat. Also can't believe I am that old. 😅
@samankucher5117
@samankucher5117 2 жыл бұрын
1:01 Nice David finch cover
@mecahhannah
@mecahhannah 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much I wish I could get my notifications to work so I don't always miss live streams
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 2 жыл бұрын
9:15 However you read it, could be worse. Could be the _Ultimate_ version of the scene...
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 2 жыл бұрын
5:26 Going to Kaz rather than Red vs Blue made me feel old.
@CDHASKELL
@CDHASKELL 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see her own supporting cast member/rogue gallery being down the road.
@chrishall5570
@chrishall5570 2 жыл бұрын
Comparing Spiderman's and Batman's relationships with their own cat themed villain is a bit of a weird comparison in my mind because I really can't decide who's actually worse. On one hand Black cat loves Spiderman but doesn't want anything to do with Peter Parker, while on the other Catwoman has always felt a little more dangerous depending on what your reading or watching. Black Cat might fight Spiderman but I don't think she's ever put him into actual death traps like Catwoman has done to Batman but when they are a couple Batman and Catwoman tend to work really well . So one hates half of who you are while the other used to try and kill you with no remorse.
@Mario_Angel_Medina
@Mario_Angel_Medina 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't read a lot of early Batman comics, but for what little I saw, at the beginning it looked like Catwoman didn't feel that strong of an attraction to Batman but used his infatuation with her as an advantage. That, of course, changed over the years
@notaraven
@notaraven 2 жыл бұрын
Fun enough I love spider man and Batman as superheroes but never really confused the 3 cat burglar villains except by name. tbf their names are a descriptor with "cat" stapled on it. I think its because their personality is distinct enough and motivations strong enough to tell them apart. Black Cat does her villiany for fun and actively chases spiderman for the joy of it. she is the center of attention and only leaves when she is finished. Catwoman is doing crimes for a purpose, though what that is changes depending on the writer. She is focused on her hits and usually uses every angle to get her prizes. Her interest in batman has always been more convenient, she flirts with him because he decided to show up and stop her. She rarely if ever goes to batman and will only begrudgingly help him. Basically black cat is down for anything she feels like doing, while catwoman got shit to do.
@gdp3rd
@gdp3rd 2 жыл бұрын
Not really a Black Cat comment, but I loved the shout out to the old letters columns!
@louisfonseca6505
@louisfonseca6505 2 жыл бұрын
Ever saw the Spectacular Spider-man episode where Felicia's father was the burglar who killed Peter's uncle? Great twist.
@princebloodgrave8097
@princebloodgrave8097 Жыл бұрын
Black Cat had a mini series, in the 90s. :) Also, yes, I am a fan of Black Cat, and have a tattoo of her, on my back. :)
@robertchapman4866
@robertchapman4866 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a little more content on comics outside of Marvel & DC. AWA Upshot are doing some great titles recently!
@Neo232100
@Neo232100 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I just really enjoy the nasally voice she gives Peter. It's kinda great. XD
@GuessWho7197
@GuessWho7197 2 жыл бұрын
*Looks at my collection of all Black Cat appearances in comics and my Black Cat figure I have next my desk* Yeah, I guess you could say I'm a fan.
@stranger59
@stranger59 2 жыл бұрын
Please read What If vol. 2 issues 20 and 21 (What if Spider-Man had not married Mary Jane, What if Spider-Man had married Black Cat) to see some WILD STUFF. Might be best after looking at more main canon stuff, but I think that story arc is just nifty and insane.
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