Cataclysm- Sub Rogue PvP Rotation Guide VS Every class!

[@arenastories]

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[@ProSkilllz]

God tier video I found instant improvements in my gameplay after studying this will definitely come back a few times to rewatch 🔥🔥

[@arenastories]

thanks man! also im glad it can help :D

[@grhayes911]

tbh very high-quality content

[@arenastories]

Thank you so much!❤​@@grhayes911

[@Quintonhabz]

"But it is completely fine guys." Fucking legend

[@arenastories]

hehe thank you bro :D

[@arenastories]

if this video did help do consider leaving a like it helps alot ^^ also rogue/mage guide will be coming out in 2 days it will be a 3 part video like wotlk

[@bdub8972]

Looking forward to it!! We are struggling a little, as new cataclysm players we are t sure the newer moves some of the classes have now! 96-110 is our record right now 😭

[@radamanthysandroulakis3293]

This guy is Insanely good! Keep it up with the educational content!!

[@arenastories]

thank you so much that means alot ^^

[@lemp8]

think that for guides you can use an addon that shows the icons of the buttons on the screen, easier to perceive what is happening

[@arenastories]

Good idea, I'll definitely try that for future guides!

[@ЛеонАмшинов]

Great video! Thanks a lot! I am waiting for rogue/mage arenas video so much too!

[@arenastories]

thank you man! rogue mage video will be coming out in 2 days it will be a 3 part video ^^

[@ЛеонАмшинов]

@@arenastoriesmaybe u can stream on twitch like mir or avi. I think u would have many viewers and have fun together with chat.

[@arenastories]

would be intresting to do it on twich i do stream sometimes on youtube but dont get many viewers XD

[@ЛеонАмшинов]

@@arenastories I think KZbin is not as good as twitch platform for streaming tbh. I believe on twitch u will get much more viewers. And this is a known good way, stream on twitch and only make videos on KZbin. Love you bro

[@tmarton133]

Thanks. I just hit 85 recently, did a lot of PVP so far but Hunters and Priests bloody get on my nerves. Good to see your techniques and rotation, I'll study them because I want blood.

[@arenastories]

gz on 85 man! hope your having fun :)

[@StephenDeiss]

This was very useful information to watch as a rogue player new to pvp thank you

[@arenastories]

Glad it was helpful!

[@vredchasing8926]

You said in a live that backstab is better but like in the death knight one you say hemo is better? Can you explain why? :)

[@arenastories]

so it would depend on the situation and target ur facing since its a dk and he has 100% hp i would prio spending it on hemo to build combo points and get bleeds in to go through the armor if he is 60% or less spam backstabs

[@lowbmw]

The guide we all needed !! thanks brother

[@arenastories]

thanks legend :D

[@gregoswiler6127]

I love this video, helps a lot, learned alot of tips like the smoke bomb defensively to reset. Could you end up doing like a biggest tips for rogue pvp video?

[@arenastories]

thank you man glad it helps! also i was thinking about making a video like that :D

[@ecdc3301]

Спасибо мужик, это я писал тебе на SoD версии игры, что смотрю тебя с wotlk ❤

[@arenastories]

спасибо тебе большое, мой друг, я очень ценю это ^^

[@Herogames2022]

What you do when the Druid is good and constantly gives you instant Roots and Clones xD ? I think you should do another Guide where you realy face high Level Competition, for Example that Warrior didnt even use Rally Cry+Enrage Regen. He died with Wall up i think.. Your obviously realy good i seen your 2v2 Videos you know what your doing but i feel like in this Guide we miss alot cause Duels dont allways go the same Way right..? I would appreciate it im learning Rogue it aint easy there are so manny differente Playstyles..

[@arenastories]

can make another guide in season 10 :)

[@geoff3758]

You got something for frost dk? They are super pumpers, so annoying if they get a hit on you

[@arenastories]

yoo man its actually even easier than unholy dk they have no survival.

[@geoff3758]

@@arenastories the rogues I duel then are stupid xD

[@arenastories]

XDD

[@rackamacka2391]

Thanks a lot!! Amazing guide 🙌

[@arenastories]

thank you so much! :D

[@michaelnewman6628]

Loving the content man. Can you possibly work on the sound quality or just talking louder into the mic?

[@arenastories]

thanks man! :D also yeah will try to get another mic

[@kamikaze25]

in cata: eviscerate isnt a good spell in the dance, you should spam ambush even if you have 5 cps to consume because ambush does an insane amount of damage in the dance and you should never consume those 5 cps for eviscerate until the dance is over

[@arenastories]

it would really depend on the situation the only reason to use evis during dance is if ur target is above 50% hp and you deal and adequate amount of dmg but mainly for the energy refund of 25 in order to keep pumping dmg

[@peyoteguy425]

two questions, and I know this video is a couple months old. 1. why do you not premed + recuperate to proc Energetic Recovery 2. why would you rupture anyone apart from preventing a restealth like you did in the second warlock duel. The DPS on it is just bad

[@arenastories]

Hey man the reason why we don't recup in some situations is to save time on dps on opener and we open rupture for the additional 16% dmg from our talents whenever our target is bled also with 5x combo rupture is free with relentless strikes. Also got 1 question aswell. Pancakes or omelette for breakfast I can't decide 😫

[@peyoteguy425]

@@arenastories If you are opening on someone, realistically, you could premed + recoup with no issue I would think--like what are we saving time on? Also, don't rogues have a glyph or talent that give their Hemo a bleed? So realistically wouldn't that just be better in like every scenario assuming garrote isn't up? I would assume you would get more value spending CBs making sure SnD/Recoup is up--SnD being less important, or getting Eviscerates off. I only ask out of curiosity by the way, not to offend or anything. I think a pretty standard opener I am used to seeing is premed + recoupe, garrote, dance, ambush, ambush, klidney, ambush 2-3 more times until dance falls off into an Evis after it has fallen off. Of course assuming they didn't trinket or bubble or something. Or opening on a rogue I guess. IDK I don't play rogue, it's just what I see a lot in arena. I would go omelette almost every single time, by the way. :P Edit: I guess the rotation I mentioned is more of a burst and not necessarily an opener lol

[@Tvownsu]

Awesome video bro, very helpful

[@arenastories]

Glad it helped :D

[@vladimirkiselev6066]

I am honestly surprised how you accurately track CC's on your targets with almost basic interface. I am completely into BigDebuffs addon to help me out for that, while you either keeping track by watching far corner of the screen or by feeling the timings on its own.

[@arenastories]

Feeling out the timings :)

[@JDeezzzzzClips]

Amazing work man!!! 💯💯💯💯

[@arenastories]

ayooo thanks legend !!!

[@evilmelonstd1620]

so many questions about fight with rogue... first fight why he don't use blind after stunlock? second fight did he don't use trinket? I haven't even gotten to the buff kingdom yet.

[@arenastories]

in the first rogue fight even if he does blind me i still have trinket ready and there is a stun DR on me so he cannot stun me aswell^^

[@christopherprovencher8805]

fantastic video by any chance can you link a similar video for holy paladin ? and how to play vs all classes and what to focus on?

[@christopherprovencher8805]

just a added comment after rewatching the cloud that breaks rogue stealth even tho its no dmg i think is what happened to you vs the druid when they used lifebloom their herb prof 2min cd dont think they used intentionally to break the vanish because was already active before you vanished just kept you in vision and allowed the bash is my guess

[@arenastories]

thank you so much!, also sadly havent seen any healer paladins yet but can share a ret one if u like ?

[@Omnidudes]

Hi thanks the the guide! How were you disarmed for only 4 seconds instead of 10 seconds when that warrior disarmed you?

[@arenastories]

thanks ^^ its pyrium weapon chain

[@bdub8972]

Do you have any in depth tips for beating frost mage? I was beating my friend at the end of wrath in most of our duels, but now it seems a lot more tricky with ROF and nova procs.

[@arenastories]

funny you mention that video is coming out tmrw! and it will be a 3 series video ^^

[@bdub8972]

@@arenastories sick!!! A 3 series video on how to beat a mage?

[@rikardkarlsson7177]

@@arenastorieswheres the video on how to 1v1 mage?

[@veddyveng]

Do i ever cheap shot on opener? Why you spam hemo instead of bsck stab?

[@arenastories]

yes u have to cheap shot in opener vs certain classes and also spamming hemo for combo points vs high armor targets

[@filipstojmirovski4175]

I see you recommend spamming hemos over one hemo then backstabs, is it more viable to spam hemos or simply because it is hard to get behind every time?

[@arenastories]

would really depend on the target, for example vs high armor u wanna spam hemo to get build fast combo points and backstab wont do much vs them. if your fight a hunter or preist u wanna spam backstab ^^

[@filipstojmirovski4175]

Really appreciated

[@moonlightets3571]

What trinket to use for instant kidney shot?

[@arenastories]

pvp trinket for agility

[@stefdw96]

Hi, do you use slice and dice and expose armor at all in pvp?

[@arenastories]

Slice and dice yes^^

[@zkglpqkbn]

@@arenastories when do you use slice and dice?

[@arenastories]

If you have an excess amount of combo points and if recuperate is already up. If you are already in stealth

[@riddle1080]

Great video. Thanks

[@arenastories]

Glad you liked it!

[@canberkergin4456]

Amazing guide! But I really wish you had nugkeyfeedback addon in this video :(

[@arenastories]

Thank you! Also yeah I accidentally forgot to turn on the addon I had it downloaded tho 😅

[@Fenix-sf7tg]

really good breakdown. Although I'd like to see a mistake video showing what people with less experience are doing wrong and why it's wrong if possible?

[@arenastories]

Mhhhh that does sound like an interesting video :)

[@Fenix-sf7tg]

@@arenastories I'm trying with every resource to get better man. Anything helps.

[@Kikicabz]

Nice tips !!! Do you live-stream ?? Would love to tune in sometime ! Also do you play 2s with spriest ? Would love a video about some 2s rogue comps :) keep it 😊up !

[@arenastories]

thank you so much really do appreciate that ^^ i do live stream sometimes but dont have the most viewers hehe. i will be making rogue/mage rogue/ret rogue/hunt rogue/sp guides ^^

[@Elmoreno115]

The warrior did not use his heal. What would you do in that scenario?

[@arenastories]

back away and play dead zone and allow him to recover abit while we recover our energy and gain control with a stun

[@Herogames2022]

Bro how you open on a MM Hunt with Pet in Camouflage xD

[@arenastories]

gotta either find a window to sap 2 seconds after ends or gotta remove frost trap and sprint cheap if u get lucky before flare procs on you. if it does then you gotta get ready to smoke bomb once he opens and build combo points off his pet andheal then step to him

[@Gatar47858]

How can I possibly thank you man ! I was about to stop playing sub , no one give me tips like this , you are the best by far 😅😅!!! By the way , do you do any coaching like this on sub rogues on EU in exchange for gold or in game items? I don’t need VOD review , but more like tips like on this video. And how I can contact you for coaching etc. ? Thanks ❤❤❤

[@arenastories]

glad it could help gatar :D also in terms of coaching i may offer that later on like i did during wotlk but for now im slightly busy with videos on youtube and im currently not in the U.S and over seas for work hehe

[@redjokr]

What is the spec you use? Hemo/backstab? HAT/waylay/improved recup?

[@arenastories]

hemo/back stab yes ^^ no walay and no improved recup

[@mikepeterson4061]

This is really helpful ty

[@arenastories]

glad it helped :D

[@dfresere4290]

Bigshiv what mouse button is action bars

[@arenastories]

9 buttons of my mouse is the first and 2nd action bar ^^

[@AHR785]

Sick video, so informative o.O How do you rate 2v2 with a MM hunter?

[@arenastories]

Thanks man :) also rogue/MM hunter is insanely good I'm currently playing it, the amount of damage you can produce togeather is crazy and control. Only issue with it is you have to be fast and make enemy team pops defensive very quick or else it's almost a guaranteed loss. Unlike rogue/mage where you can run constantly and heal while slowing your target. With rogue/hunt there is no such thing as long games so if the opener gets messed up it can be really devastating since the issue is having the hunter survive for a long period of time with no healing. Still tho it's an amazing team to play if both rogue and hunt is really experienced and fast paced. If the game doesn't end in atleast 1 minute 30 seconds consider it a loss, but in that time you should be able to win easily

[@canberkergin4456]

no more video bro?

[@arenastories]

hey man :) video coming out in 2 days rogue/mage part 2. have been delayed alot due to me out of the country for a work/holiday trip. havent been able to post frequently like i used to since i dont have my normal editing software and streaming setup but will be releasing a new vid in 2 days

[@dfresere4290]

Bigshiv what do you use mouse ?

[@arenastories]

using hyper X :)

[@dfresere4290]

Bigshiv what you use keybinds

[@arenastories]

mainly using SHFT 1 2 3 4 and also f1 f2 f3 f4 also mouse buttons ^^

[@TheHDshuffle]

Amigo, Nice video’s, do you have a macro video or a page for macros? Thnx

[@arenastories]

thank you so much! :D video on macros is coming soon ^^

[@zkglpqkbn]

is it possible to kill healers 1v1 in cata?

[@arenastories]

Yes easily

[@zkglpqkbn]

@@arenastories I am having trouble killing pally and shaman healer. It feels impossible, how do you do it?

[@kimetrius9996]

what Server are u on i wanna duel you with my frost mage

[@arenastories]

gehennas^^

[@crashbandi584]

what about pvp vs heals?

[@arenastories]

You mainly wanna burst with dance into full kidney and if they trinket kidney it's gg. If they don't go for a full blind then they will be forced to trinket while they are at 30% hp then kill on next reset

[@crashbandi584]

@@arenastories I have full pvp set in Cata at the moment and when im VS same geared heals it feels like almost impossible to kill them. Especially priests that can cast shields and insta heals all the time. So do you suggest just keep hitting them with backstabs, keeping recuperate up and just wait for a moment to burst with full kindey and shadow dance or some other tactic? Really liked your info about bleeds ignoring armor, because been having some problems VS paladins and DK as they're unkillable tanks with huge dmgs for me. Will try with bleeds, maybe something's going to change : )

[@crashbandi584]

@@arenastories also, do you ever use slice and dice and expose armor in any pvp scenario? Or just a waste of combo points?

[@arenastories]

So it really depends on the situation and how fast the priest trinkets. First things first your gonna wanna time ur sap on the opener so his shield and hots are off once you open. 2nd you wanna start off with a strong burst in order to atleast get him to 50% hp. If the priest trinkets ur kidney shot it's GG from there man just wait for your next dance and stun DR to come off burst him hard then go for a full blind when he's 50% hp or lower then sap and garrote on next opener into full kidney and he's dead. If he doesn't not trinket kidney just make sure to get him too 50% then blind and he will be forced to then wait for your nest burst and keep spamming recup and bleeds on him

[@arenastories]

I do use slice and dice rarley only if I have rupture already on the target and my recuperate Is above 10 seconds atleast. If I'm stealth and have a surplus of energy then il pop it

[@dfresere4290]

Bigshiv what your mouse all name pls

[@arenastories]

Hyper X pulse fire surge

[@nikolamarkovic1915]

Nice bro, verry nice 😊

[@arenastories]

thank you so much! :D

[@Ficonator20396]

i hate it when people duel with buffs/food/pots. duels should be like arena skirmishes in my opinion, so no nitro boost and other stufff

[@arenastories]

100% agree! its cheating lol

[@arenastories]

my talents and glyphs and gear ! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGXKl3amaLiths0

[@jansturjillo9307]

Where yo see your combo points? lol

[@arenastories]

XD

[@levia9753]

great vid

[@arenastories]

thank you!

[@RealTeeroh]

youre the goat dude

[@arenastories]

really appreciate that legend ^^

[@RatTelevision]

Good video now beat my mage

[@arenastories]

I shall await you in the nether realms where the shadows conceal the sun behind the whispering eye of gul Dan. Find this location and tou have your duel 😉

[@RatTelevision]

@@arenastories love it bro I'll be the magician without any robes 😘 undefeated complete naked may luck forever be in your favor

[@moonsgaming4609]

Nice 😃

[@arenastories]

Thanks 😄

[@arenastories]

follow the discord discord.gg/eTd2gmfemb

[@Magetastic69]

Premed garrote into kidney forces mage block or trinket every single time lol not sure why you didnt use this but its free wins.

[@arenastories]

i use it in some occasions :)

[@DillanStevens-p6u]

Wow that warlock at the start was ASS

[@arenastories]

xD

[@Magechad]

Strats will work vs dogshit Tier Players. Vs good players u will fail badly with this video strats especially vs mages

[@arenastories]

video coming on these strats working in arena got match ups vs rank 1 playerrs and glads :)

[@Magechad]

@@arenastories glad to hear, also would recommend you considering to Use the Keybinds S for an ability Not for backpadeling

[@bdub8972]

@@Magechadit’s backpedaling” and I’ve beaten tons of warriors in wrath classic 1v1 by mixing backpedaling AND walking. I’ll never understand how backpedaling is an insult… last guy who called me a backpedaling rogue was a salty ass shitter in PVE gear with no rating

[@Magechad]

@@bdub8972 ohh man... XD i'll Not teach you the basics of Keybinds

[@daytimefern8895]

Ofc this works on bots but real players is a diffrent story

[@arenastories]

Video coming out of this working in arena at 2k mmr ^^

[@swft89]

sub rogues are so funny in cata xD so broken

[@arenastories]

its crazy XD

[@avilaangel021798]

Thanks I fucking hate mages

[@arenastories]

Saaame!