Subtlety Rogue Cataclysm PvP Guide | Best Race, Talents, Glyphs, BiS Gear, Professions & Macros

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[@mrwicccked]

What about damage rotation and cycling CC?

[@samuelmamaraccoon1759]

Pretty excited for this guide. Thank you for the pace, and really drilling into each choice and the reason behind it.

[@D.netleo]

Hunter next please

[@lochvast1180]

Hunter has a major skill cap. We def need a video for it.

[@adrianbungau3380]

Does anyone know the name song that starts at 11:08 please?

[@cavsjm4422]

What's a typical opener? Did I miss it in the video?

[@Vex762]

Depends on class casters usually start off with premed recup into garrote>shadow>ambush>ambush>kidney>ambush>ambush finish with evis after dance or re apply recup Melee start with recup agin into cheap>hemo>shadow>ambush> kidney> ambush>ambush and after dance do the same evis or reapply recup

[@idkidgaf]

@@Vex762 You still want hemo on a caster for the added bleed damage from garrote. Other than that yeah pretty perfect openers if all goes well.

[@Vex762]

@@idkidgaf even if your doing back stab build is it not a waste of energy to open like that since garrot will apply the debuff?

[@idkidgaf]

@@Vex762 Applying hemo causes all bleed damage to be increased on target. Hence why you'd still want to premed > recup > garrote > hemo > then dance ambush

[@aojdaoidjaoifj681]

@@Vex762 theres no perma lock combo in cata? like in retail you can stick 3 cheap shots in a row it is not possible on cata?

[@dominikpecuch2177]

what poisons do you use on weapons? instant MH + wound OH, since you can get slow from backstabbing?

[@ricardolionheart4920]

This video and guide was great, I'm coming back for Cata and watching your video I'm proud I did almost everything you told us to do here, good memories

[@Dalcamo1]

Can you share what are the recommended addons for this character?

[@TemporalMatador]

do synapse springs really share cd with on use trinkets? that's not how it worked in cata

[@SissySara113]

it doesn't share cd. but there's a 10 second internal CD on synapsesprings when you use trinket :)

[@TemporalMatador]

@@SissySara113 i have noticed that since I got them and I wonder if that's really consistent with cata design. I don't remember that getting changed until wodlinka started ruining the game. Maybe you can cancel synapses to use your badge if needed.

[@SissySara113]

i think it's a thing they purposefully added at some patch in wotlk. Since normally you could use Rocket Gloves+ gnomish lightning capicitator which some people thought was too big of burst so they kinda added a small cooldown between gloves+ trinket. just cus of that purpose.

[@TemporalMatador]

@@SissySara113 I suppose so. I do remember wod introducing some form of shared-cd mechanics intended to nerf burst damage stacking, maybe I'm getting mixed up.

[@Gatar47858]

@@SissySara113hey man ! I am playing human sub rogue and mainly rogue hunter and rogue mage in 2v2 and I was wondering if I should go Engi/tailoring or JC/tailoring.

[@deydey9533]

does ambush cost 40 energy? i always thought it cost 60. or do we have something in the skill tree there?

[@scottlavale1502]

for Trinket .... what about the hurricane card???

[@joeydes9666]

are y'all in my head? bruh i was looking for a sub rogue pvp guide........just last night. no kidding

[@RealTeeroh]

FACTS

[@Rezman-WoW]

Great guide. Thank you!

[@prodev4012]

I need to know how to deal with hunters. No matter what I do, they reck me in bg's and 1v1s

[@ahetzel9054]

Pray it's a bad hunter 😂

[@prodev4012]

@@ahetzel9054 or maybe I should just re-roll as one

[@SergioSanchez-ig4uj]

The thing I do is predict when they disengage and disarm them before they do it. Pop sprint and connect and try to kill him in a stun. If he trinkets and disengages again, step. Best thing you can do is to stay connected to them but it’s tough when it’s a good hunter

[@alexalexsanin6702]

Waht server you are playing?

[@JM-kr8yv]

Thanks a lot for that guide, its gonna be so usefull, could you recommand a macro to spam for sapping stealth opponent ( ex rogue vs rogue), thx a lot

[@stanleyspeelman6179]

What addons do you recommend for a sub rouge doing pvp ?

[@idkidgaf]

big debuffs, threat plates, Gladdy - Cata, omni bar, and potentially Omni CC depending on your setup with threat plates and big debuffs.

[@MoxNix1776]

If playing the hemo spam build, do you still want daggers?

[@ewabraun4151]

No you go sword and dagger 1.4 for shiv

[@lochvast1180]

How long is the Cd share between will of the forsaken and pvp trinket?

[@ahetzel9054]

I believe it's 30 seconds

[@lochvast1180]

@@ahetzel9054 thanks!

[@watzo2103]

its possible buy guide rank one in french?

[@avilaangel021798]

I’ve been on and off wow for years finally came back and my rogue is so fun but I can’t gravitate to macros for some reason.. I know I should but they seem so extra.

[@rallymurrah]

Im pissed off Assassination is not Viable. I heard is was Playable for the first Season is that True?

[@OscarAndreeCruzRodas]

Yes, Frost DK and Assa Rogue were completely broken.

[@Mercymain9]

love it the thumb

[@45blank16]

I saw a guide say mastery for sub is not good now you tell me it is :/ Having no haste feels difficult

[@jacobkenyon2299]

What poisons on what weps

[@truja97]

Affli lock guide please.

[@jcurt03]

These guides are well made, but with the exception of the tip of the week the info feels like an audio version of a wowhead guide. They would be much better if they included rotation visuals and actual gameplay/comp tips. I'm assuming that stuff is reserved for the paid content though, which is understandable.

[@maningart]

Dope!

[@andreas89824]

If u got decent amount of mastery evisicrete crits 30-35k. So it better for sure

[@ssiahh3606]

no its not , im guessing u have 0 resil

[@dominikpecuch2177]

@@ssiahh3606 while also hitting someone with 0 resil

[@edwarda7096]

2v2 comps video on retail pls

[@cesaraugustocardoso7302]

Mage please

[@imaloser1947]

sap macro isnt working in cata classic

[@arenastories]

No one takes walay, also 5% hit rating is too low

[@sebastianbechpetersen858]

5% hit too low? Isnt is only useful vs Nelf to get more?

[@righteous7788]

Just realizing how shit at pvp I am

[@zayon0170]

i would love to play, but the grind on honor is too crazy

[@greeno6109]

feral next pls sir

[@bojack-ur6pe]

shaddow next

[@reneroder3263]

Subtelty spec is like, here's all you will need in PVP to destroy any class, even global refresh of all important cooldowns extra, so... skill? I think not Rogues :)

[@moonsgaming4609]

Guide Shadow Priest plz 😁

[@Thekisame27]

what an insane tip, maybe a frog or a monkey wouldn't have known this already.

[@emptyBuck3t]

expertise 20? or 20%

[@supdawgie]

Dang I like Hemo build better but everyone’s playing backstab :( might gotta be team hemo

[@jochenrunge3706]

can anyone in the comments confirm that skill capped is legit in wow classic? i know in league they are pretty good but is this good aswell?

[@stephandiaz6028]

Like if You want affli lock next

[@Krolot0101]

MhhhmBaaby

[@МаксимКикеев]

Еще бы все это на русский язык

[@Diabo_Vermelho]

your tons of adds are annoying af!

[@sHake2BeNiCe]

If you want to contribute to anything Skill Capped people, try to build a faceit platform for wow arenas. People are incapeable of using ingame tools to find groups due to whatever reasons. All your videos are so irrelevant cause we normal players just cant use what you tell us in your guides.

[@ryanwars1789]

What on earth are you talking about?? Lol

[@gabemaurer4969]

What are you even saying? You make no sense lol

[@BayIRL]

Reeeee

[@avilaangel021798]

That’s not the point of the video. You’re taking it way too deep my guy 😂

[@dannymoontattoos]

I’ve never played Cata before starting character to level up fresh today. I’m sure this is going to be useful to me lol

[@nermor]

Lol walay rly ?

[@skillcappedwowpvp]

We updated our article to be 3/3 in HAT and 0/2 in Waylay. These points are flexible.

[@7Detailz]

classic will never be the same as back in the days. now u have all the cheaters, like wintraders, bots n co. n everyone plays tryhard meta comp with 39538 addons carryn them. 0 skill involved. rating doesnt mean shit, specialy shuffle rating . p.s. rogue takes 0 skill, its just op af

[@fuka9676]

idk y u cant just play the game and not be bothered what other losers are doing

[@datboyvsd608]

hate to break it to you but all of that existed back in the days too, you just didn't know.