Catamaran sailing comparison Lagoon catamarans or leopard catamarans

[@tlevans62]

When you order any of the basic upgrade packages on the Lagoon you double the fuel and water tank sizes, so you end up with 160 gallons of fuel and water. Also, if you buy the gen set option, you lose the extra water tank, but you’d add a watermaker so fresh water wouldn’t be much of an issue.

[@phillipthompson1395]

The man is back again another great video thankyou Sir

[@mruss2237]

Been wanting to see this precise comparison for some time now… thank you sir 🙏🏻🤙🏻

[@danielcolucci692]

Hey, tks for the amazing video. Would it be possible to make a comparison video between an Excess 11 and an Aventura 37?

[@douglasmontgomery6315]

I'm a catamaran fan and have intensively researched Lagoon & Leopard. Additional info, the Lagoon 450 bulkhead issue has been reported by over SIXTY owners now, so not caused by over-tightening rigs. Multiple pictures of these peoples bulkheads have shown poor design/use of plywood and large holes drilled in said bulkheads to run hoses/wires that may have contributed to some of the deformation. There have also been reports of other Lagoon models having issues as well (albeit not as many as the 450). The Leopards, unlike the Lagoons have been using a steel beam, instead of wood for the bulkhead for many years. Lastly, the Leopard 42 is the first Leopard to now use all foam/fiberglassed bulkheads (no plywood). I'm assuming these two things add to the cost over the Lagoon as well....quality :). I think you should of added sail area to your comparison to talk about likely hood of SOG vs AWS...aka how well will they sail in light winds (with standard sails of course). Thanks for your videos.

[@rogerramjet1969]

www.youtube.com/@travelsketch that should even things up a bit

[@peteroleary162]

Have you seen the horror stories coming out about new Leopard builds? There is something seriously wrong going on in their manufacturing facility.

[@Hondo0101]

I enjoy your content. Thank you.

[@richardrose7382]

I’d like to hear your comments on the old Gemini 34…more of a coastal cruiser, but remarkable use of space

[@Luke22022]

A very informative comparison. Thank you!

[@danmallery9142]

I really hate that upper deck lounging area. All it does is raise the boom, taking away sail area and make it hobby horse more. Still I kind of prefer the Leopard. The design seems even more modern than 5 year development time difference. Plus, the "bulkhead issues" aside, the videos I have seen comparing construction quality decidedly favors the Leopard. All moot points, however since I can't afford more than 1/10th of the asking prices (not to mention the 100s of thousands more to make them sail-able) 😅

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Agree 100 percent

[@dahveed284]

I really don't think the upper or front lounge areas are worthwhile for me. The boat already has plenty of area to lounge. They could have made the saloon a little bigger and created more storage instead of the front lounge. And the upper lounge just eats into the coach roof area where you could have had some solar panels. I mean these aren't deal breakers, I just don't see using them at all. The front door is nice if you have to go forward doing bumpy weather. But I know some people have expressed concern with the front door leaking if water is coming over the bow in heavy seas.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@dahveed284 agree, in my opinion there are far better uses of that space

[@castrocollins6371]

Totally agree. Leopard should give the option of removing and replace with larger mainsail and more solar.

[@joseantonioquinterocamacho5178]

Me gustaría ver la comparación del Lagoon 50 y el Leopard 50. Muchas gracias

[@markgibbs5632]

Incredibly informative!

[@m1k3droid]

Has Lagoon fixed the hull flexing/bulkhead breaking problem seen in Sailing Parlay Revival?

[@douglasmontgomery6315]

Depends on your definition of “fixed”

[@clintbillton2161]

Ask, Sailing Nahoa.

[@mapoz1509]

@@clintbillton2161 well, that was a Lagoon 410 with a rotten balsa core floor, not a 450 and bulkheads.

[@marcodeglinnocenti]

I would like to see a comparison between a Leopard 40 PC and what the market offers. I think there will be an hard comparison because the smallest PC Leopard has very good features. Good job guy. Thanks for the video.

[@markybolton]

Can you do info on the Delta FX-40 Catamaran??? I can't find any info on it!

[@thomastaylor6991]

I'm no marine architect by any means,but I do believe hand rails are a necessary safety feature on sailing vessels. Maybe that flock of birds should be designing aircraft?

[@High_Desert_Tanner]

Used Lagoon. Because $450k makes for a LOT of upgrades. With enough left to buy a Lambo 😂

[@mrmped1]

There are a bunch of Lagoon 42s with bulkhead issues popping up. So, don't lie to people. Lagoons bulkheads are small weak and poorly built. When you walk around lagoons, all the floors creak. In my book, a creaky boat that creaks while sailing is a sign of poor construction.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Lagoons are trash, always have been, I don't even like catamarans let alone lagoons

[@mikeferguson2828]

I am a older leopard 40 owner. (The Melvin Mareli designed boats) this 40 and the 46 I still believe were the best sailing Leopards built. Sadly you did not talk weight of these 42 ft boats. My boat is 7,6 tons empty and 10 tons full. The new Leopard 42 is 12 tons empty. This is a massive amount of weight added and even the older 46 comes in at 10 tons empty. So you have a smaller boat weighing 2 tons more ? Really someone has lost the plot at the factory from a sailing perspective these are dogs to sail. The raised boom is another bad move adding to worse sailing ability. Sadly the Leopards were always seen as better sailing boats than the lagoons but I think one can clearly see they are following in their footsteps making heavy, poor sailing vessels. No wonder seawind , outremer are seeing such grow, as people that would like to sail not float around would rather buy these boats.

[@markybolton]

I had always wonder why mfr are creating such a high boom. I would think it would be hard to manage and limit performance!

[@johnq.public2621]

@@markybolton Correct, it does just that! 🎯

[@Frog13799]

Mike, I respectfully disagree on the performance, but agree on the high boom, I am a Leopard delivery skipper and have sailed every model made for the last 15 years across oceans. The 42 sails surprisingly well, it has very good load carrying ability and its high bridge deck clearance is chalk and cheese compared to Morelli 40, A fair comparison to the 46 would be the current 45, the 45 will smoke the 46 on every point of sail, the new 50 is an absolute gem, its the best Leopard yet, seaworthy, comfortable and pretty quick.

[@peteroleary162]

@@markybolton It does but it gives the flybridge which for the charter and Island cruising classes is an immense bonus. I have always wondered how well these boats perform in bad seas in major ocean crossings but information is hard to find.

[@calledout4437]

If I bought one, I could see myself running the engines more than actually sailing so I'd perhaps go with the Leopard just based on fuel capacity.

[@ShinLeeChan]

Then you should buy a motor catamaran instead.

[@markybolton]

Please do other catamarans like the Bali, Excess, Nauitech and others!

[@SJMessinwithBoats1]

I sailed a Hobie Monocat in the mid 70's, (rented a Stoney Creek Lake, near Detroit) Isn't these two wonderful boats simular in that way to the Hobie? There's your comment like you wanted, Mr. Chris!

[@brandonhitchings8540]

I literally just spent a week sailing a lagoon 42 in Greece, two weeks ago. I am / was a lot like most of you. Really interested in a big production boat as they are cheaper, bigger, fancy this and that. Oh you will spend most of your time on the hook blah blah blah. The lagoon sailed so poorly. The self tacking jib is to narrow and you loose a massive amount of sail area , out boat the main sail kept binding up so we would have to go stand on your tippy toes in 5ft waves on the coach roof and manually pull it all the down. We had 35knt wind on perfect beam reach and could only get 7-8knts of speed. It sailed awful. Very nice inside, very comfortable. But i have now shifted my ideas of what i want in my boat. Im now thinking about a Nautitech open 40. The boom is shin high, it can sail in light winds, and up to 12-14 knts You still have big beds and comfortable living space. But can still sail in comfort in bad conditions I have been put off of the lagoon

[@paulhaywood706]

Oh dear Brandon !! I'm sorry to tell you that the 42 is fast when you know how to sail it. We have done 10,000 miles in ours including the Atlantic and we are very rarely passed by any other sailboat. It takes time to learn how to get the best out of her but she will easily do 8 knots in 16 true with the standard sails. Add a code 55 and she does another 2 knots on a beam reach.

[@SailingPauHana]

We had a similarly experience. We just crossed the entire Gulf of mexico on a Lagoon, and it sailed very poorly compared to our monohull. In my opinion, lagoons and maybe other cats are unsafe for offshore. These boats are way too easy to go overboard. Standing on the coach roof to untangle reefing lines and pulling down sails is dangerous as well. And don't get me started on airflow. These boats in hot climates are not good. There is zero airflow in the back area when at anchor. It's hot as hell back there....even with those 2 tiny windows opened in the front and the big sliding doors opened. These are beautiful boats for a marina or at anchor (if you can run the generator and AC), but I will just stick to my monohull and save the half million dollars.

[@dahveed284]

Little known fact: Catamaran is latin for Expensive AF. A cat seems like the perfect boat until you price one. Ugh. Even used they're "catamaran" as the Roman's would say.

[@scottwolfe6029]

Thanks.

[@clintbillton2161]

Nice vid, Jack Black ;)

[@donellefson5882]

What are your thoughts of a trimaran

[@clausgiloi6036]

Love the L42, hope to upgrade from our L40

[@deniselumsden6738]

Could you compare Leopard and Aquila power cats

[@lolni8218]

Il suffit de lire les fiches techniques, pour constater que les Lagoon sont toujours les plus lourds, les plus larges et les moins toilés... Donc il n'y aura pas de surprise sur les plans d'eau, les Lagoon seront toujours à la ramasse dès qu'il faut tenir une moyenne !

[@louisfbrooks]

How about some trimaran reviews like the Dragonfly or the Neel. The Dragonfly 40 looks really interesting.

[@bethells86]

Lol, after the dramatic and loud intro it’s just someone talking specifications of each vessel. I was hoping for some detail with someone actually going through an actual vessel, even a race between 2 examples.

[@knutarneaakra6013]

Lagoon is the best choice pronto no question at all. If you want to go fast on water you better get a powerboat.😊

[@freerangemarketers]

A little out of my price range but nice 👍

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Fair enough!

[@Rich-rd1ge]

Is a 42 ft cat easier to maneuver in marinas than a 42 ft Beneteau?

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Lol no

[@rabukan5842]

@@ChasingLatitudes I agree Chris, though twin engines does make for super easy maneuvering. I have a 50' twin sticks MY without any thrusters, and I can dock it anywhere in my sleep, even in winds. My 35' sailboat was always interesting in the winds. But, with the modern sailboats with thrusters, piece of cake.

[@jackdickerson2031]

Leopard is by far the better boat. You get what you pay for. I would not be afraid of the Laggon new or used.

[@eljefe1153]

No Sound? Or it's my phone!

[@bucknaykid5821]

your phone is off lol

[@eljefe1153]

@@bucknaykid5821 Ahora siiiii!!

[@blavezzoli]

Be great full you didn't have to listen to his annoying commentary. I'm 90% sure this guy was drunk or a moron.

[@alexandermieke8795]

sadly but i have no imagination about feet and inches....could you help in future europeans with also anouncing meter and centimeters!?

[@rabukan5842]

I agree Chris, why spend a million dollars on a cat when you can get a brand new DS for half that price? Almost double the maintenance, slip fees, cost.... Guess if you have the bucks...

[@cartmanrlsusall]

The lagoon has some serious issues with finish,hatch leaking and that bulkhead recall ,but it is easy to sail and roomy especially on anchor. Leopard is a proven circumnavigation capable builder and they are laid out nicely especially without the older slanting stairstep forward windows,they are the winner in this comparison. Strange gemini the most numerous cat out there never makes these lists

[@TYVOLEFABRICATION]

Lagoon design all the way . I don’t like shape and curves of the leopard

[@jeromehebert3184]

I like the cats and these are nice but i can't afford either so i won't be buying one any time soon ;-)

[@ChasingLatitudes]

I can't afford them either

[@m1k3droid]

fly bridges on cats are dumb

[@m1k3droid]

technically they're dumb on all sailboats, cause they force the sail to be higher on the mast, so you get more tipping for less actual sail thrust

[@wayneanderson1641]

The problem I see with a catamaran is all the potential freeloaders! The owner pays for everything and cleans it up after they leave. I had a beautiful trawler so I know what I'm talking about.😪🖕

[@bucknaykid5821]

SECOND!!!!!

[@necrokittie2291]

why am i watching this? i don't even want a catamaran.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

Haha

[@podocrypto6072]

You're freakin funny!!! 😹😹

[@MrOmarkiam]

Unfortunately both built with poor quality control. Do not buy either! Let the buyer beware.

[@messingwithtexas]

Great info… really great video… but your killing me with the whole “sounding like a millennial making fun of Seinfeld doing stand up making fun of airline food.” I mean “WHAATS UP WITH THAAAAAAT?” Silly gooses? I’m done.

[@waitshiftchance5893]

Too much sarcasm.

[@MichaelRhodes-w3k]

Leopard

[@jon_s]

"leopard" is a pretty weird brand for a boat, considering that leopards hate going in the water

[@mistman5640]

Gander, silly goose.

[@PeteLeuenberger]

AI generated, terrible

[@ChasingLatitudes]

What's ai generated you clown, that's my voice, my video, all done by me with not a single ounce of AI

[@PeteLeuenberger]

@@ChasingLatitudes Ok, sorry about that. Then it's the worst video I've seen in a long time. Reading a spec like a robot. I might be a clown, but you are a bore !

[@phaioncirrus3818]

@@ChasingLatitudes hahahaha owned by AI

[@ChasingLatitudes]

@@phaioncirrus3818 I wish, then I wouldn't have to deal with people like you

[@phaioncirrus3818]

@@ChasingLatitudes haha i meant you owned that guy and he called you AI so he got owned by a supposed "AI" system lol

[@williampalmer7026]

Potato!