Catan Pro Plays In Online Tournament - Game 1 (INSANE PLAYS!)

[@Arctimich]

“You want me to steal it blue” nice bluf XD

[@johnmcbrayer2062]

09:07 Agrees to non-steal with black. 10:12 Confuses black by saying black owes a non-steal and denies agreeing to non-steal. 10:47 Steals from black on very next turn. Non-bind play well done. But I do enjoy your content, thanks for all you do!

[@robertommb]

Yeaah he owed black the ns;; blue was the one who owed him!! Also lied about vps, bluffed the knight, said didnt had sheep ! Joe is manipulating more than iManipulate

[@dandydrew]

I messed up there after rewatching it. I think I confused the terms since he gave me the nonblock for the 61112. I should have given him a nonsteal and not be on autopilot in that moment - It was not intentional. This is a good reminder to write the terms in the chat if you make deals.

[@johnferraris9524]

yea that was cringe, these people need to run him over with all that table talk saying hes weak with that busted ows set up

[@dandydrew]

@@johnferraris9524Many have tried and many have failed

[@johnferraris9524]

@@dandydrew HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

[@Ther3tr0]

15:55 holy shit that bluff Edit: 18:30 jeez man that whole setup was so dirty

[@robertommb]

18:30 : sheep + ore for a road and black would take it for the game 😂 Blue and black were 100% manipulated! Of course we got lucky with the devs, but they just let Drew do all he wanted

[@ruktxd3395]

wow this game was crazy. really showed some table talk and creative tactics that i’ve never seen before 😮😮😮😮

[@dandydrew]

Glad it was helpful. Use these things with caution and tact

[@pacot6569]

those two plays at the end were so sick haha, well done

[@Roman500]

Dang that first mono that was diiiiirty

[@californiaplant-basedeater2761]

How is he not buying two devs there, though? Edit: well he just won like a turn later, lol. I did figure he was at least just going for four cities plus the two vps. But always the chance for road too.

[@DrOmegaBattleSphere]

@@californiaplant-basedeater2761 You'd have to get hella lucky with 2 devs for them to be more valuable than 2 victory points and the additional production, frankly you could argue no 2 cards would be worth that. I think a lot of people overvalue the devs because they like gambling when the higher EV play is to take the double city.

[@californiaplant-basedeater2761]

@@DrOmegaBattleSphere You must have not understood what I said. I had added that he was trying to sneak a win with the road. So don't tell me about more production like I'm an idiot and don't know about it.

[@DrOmegaBattleSphere]

@@californiaplant-basedeater2761 No one is calling you an idiot. Clearly I didn't understand because it sounded like you were suggesting he should have bought 2 devs rather than 2 cities following the mono.

[@californiaplant-basedeater2761]

@@DrOmegaBattleSphere I had edited it. Maybe you saw the original. At first I had thought that he needed to fight for army, then realized he could just 4x city as he had two dev vps. Then I continued watching and he had just won the game as black hadn't built the fifth road. It was a good catch by him. He had a mono to facilitate it should the opportunity arise. Have a nice day

[@Opsaam]

I feel like these guys just followed whatever Drew said without recognizing any threats on their own

[@dandydrew]

It’s easy to say they “just” did this or that but there were lots of subtle moves that helped facilitate these opportunities to happen. It’s very easy to get caught up in a competitive game of catan and let certain things slip past the radar.

[@crazymudman123]

15:58 LOVE that fake threat to rob well done

[@brianvoll]

That dialogue was so great. ‘I can see a world where…’ ‘a world?’ … ‘do you watch any KZbinrs?’

[@dandydrew]

Glad you caught that. He was definitely trying to mess with me there

[@Rob-b2q8p]

Dandy- "I can give you a non steal or something" "Didn't you owe me a non steal" Dandy- "what? no no I gave you 6/11/12 Proceeds to solo block and steal when the first opportunity presented itself.

[@dandydrew]

I messed up there. I honor my nb/ns deals almost always unless we are losing and significant time has passed, but I genuinely made a mistake there and should have given him the nonsteal. I think I confused the terms and was on autopilot a bit too much. I don’t like to do that but it happens from time to time. Good reminder to put the deal in the chat once made.

[@tobiasobermayr501]

drops a city "idk what else to do" LOL love your table talk. Make every move seem like you're just getting by haha

[@davordava]

When he said, I can see a world in which... Totally your saying Dandy :)

[@chasehowell439]

Amazing table. Amazing plays. Good video

[@neutral_walker]

Watched this live, such a great game!

[@benhegge8186]

This guy is a wizard

[@EatieWheaties]

some table talk to me NICE but a couple lies in there like “dw I’ll play a knight” at the end was a little slimy

[@dandydrew]

I understand why you might not like that move. Not honoring the nonsteal deal was an honest mistake but I did say I would play a knight when I didn’t have one which strategically took a little bit of heat off of me while I am trying to secure road for the win. My general take to most people is NOT to lie as it could ruin your in game credibility BUT if that move will help me secure the win I believe it’s more justified and strategically the move. I believe there is an interesting discussion about “deception” as a principle in catan and how people draw lines. For instance - Dirty mono is okay, threatening a bluff knight is okay, but out right saying “I will play a knight” when I won’t is not okay. These are all forms of deception but not all weighted equal to some.

[@feb_7]

@@dandydrew Dirty mono, cutting off, plowing, solo/gang blocking are intrinsic dynamics of the game and players have the chance of evaluating the different positions, make mistakes or good calls. Bluffing and lying are on a different layer, they are mind games on your opponents. You often offer to port resources for other players, or doing assurance. Would you consider not returning the cards? Would you call it a deception if someone did not return yours? Everyone has opinions, and deception does not break the rules, so there's no point in trying to convince each others. But I believe that boards are more fun if you play the game, and not play the players.

[@antibullshit]

Yeah if someone did this to him we'd be hearing it for minutes on the video

[@JanosEsztergomi]

my guy went iManipulate mode :D

[@dandydrew]

Full Joe Biden mode

[@chocomoan98]

The dirtiest mono of all time. Legendary content dude

[@bjornlindqvist8305]

Lool! What a fucking masterpiece!

[@TheAmit618]

What a banger

[@gamesta527]

The DIRTIEST mono. Imagine if that second trade had gone through with blue, too.

[@Jimbroski69]

6:50 i agree drew, I don’t like early game table talk, some people monopolize early and it screws the later game, just let the dice play out Also blue with sheep port going to be interesting this game

[@Jimbroski69]

20:43 wild game hahaha

[@flugal_rere]

I would've taken the 8 5 10 to wheat port with your first pick so you getting it with your second was crazy to me. Haven't watched any of the game yet but your placements were great imo.

[@dandydrew]

8510 is good, no doubt about it. I think the ore pick just offers me a solid OWS game

[@jacksonletts3724]

Insane play is right! Thought you were screwed when army started to slip out of reach

[@dandydrew]

Chaos is a ladder

[@olekhoollie]

Dude... That was insane!

[@jondonjr]

Hmmm, didnt honour a non steal agreement.. two monos lol ez win! Good game though. I feel like black is a really good player

[@dandydrew]

That was a misunderstanding which I owned. Yeah 2 monos is nuts

[@jondonjr]

@@dandydrew yeah I saw that, nice one

[@PiwnyPartner]

that smudge at the top left got me worried about my monitor so much :D

[@dandydrew]

Don’t worry… All is good!

[@rdcruick]

Hardest manipulation game I've seen yet lmao

[@dandydrew]

This is so funny to read this because I’m just chilling and vibing the whole time. People think I am scheming and calculating a bunch of wild devious moves or something.

[@jkid1134]

​@@dandydrewsure, mostly you're manipulating intuitively, except for the multiple instances where you are calculating. "I need to not make this enemy early, let me get on comms" is a calculation, "I bet I can trade some ore here and mono" is a calculation, "maybe they won't notice roads here" is a calculation, etc etc. The concept that you have to have a deep, coherent plan in order to be manipulative I think fails to describe many manipulators. There is chess like stockfish plays and chess like leela plays; there is more than one way to seek control.

[@thistamndypo]

amazing

[@artboymoy]

Aw... no Joe Biden VO... That was a pretty fun game. The table talk was interesting and seeing all the trades being made. The dirty mono was funny.

[@justinvanderveen5471]

Why not 11 9 4 wood? You always get sheep on the way back,either 9510/4810 or even 8510?

[@nosebleed7]

you don´t want to leave a 3rd settlement spot on the 9 ore open, for someone to place on or build to. looking at the numbers, statistically, having a firm grip on the ore should be one of your main advantages. I mean, the way the game played out, with 3 and 11 both rolling more often then the 9, kinda negated that part of the strategy, but anyway...

[@dandydrew]

IT was about locking the ore and helping secure a potential road network. I think I lose my advantage if 4th is able to enjoy the 9 ore.

[@liroyilan7335]

That intro tho

[@dandydrew]

The Dark Knight’s soundtrack has got me inspired

[@seed2446]

That was one of the dirtiest monos ever.

[@tobiasobermayr501]

dis game was dirrrrrrrty :p lol

[@feb_7]

I like yours and Dylan's videos, but I don't like the narrative that you both carry on in your channels. In lost games, often "this player did not recognise the threat, "they let them run away with the game", "the table was not collaborative". In won games, "good game", "insane play". I wish analysis were more objective, but I understand it's difficult with a community to entertain. I'll keep watching your videos 'cause you are a great player and entertainer, but what kind of message are you sending to your viewers? Please everyone, take a break from the lying/table talk discussion and take this comment as it is, I'm not trying to spreading any kind of hate:)

[@dandydrew]

I love this comment. I actually have mentioned this in a stream recently but not in the videos - The rank #1 videos were played a few weeks ago and I was having a bad time during filming those. I made a conscious decision to step away from the games and reflect on it for a few weeks. Honestly…I had a bad attitude and out look in pre and post analysis. I agree I haven’t been sharing the most productive analysis (regardless of results) and I need to be better for taking accountability for the things I can control. I really appreciate your feedback and genuine critique as all improving players AND content creators need help. I am doing my best to improve the experience for myself but also for the audience. It’s not easy as every move I make gets 4-5 different suggestions about what is “right”. I do agree with you in this case and want to improve the messaging for everyone’s sake. Thank you - DD

[@BL-lm4kf]

@@dandydrewdont beat urself up too hard my friend. I found this video to be a symphony of human manipulation. A pure masterclass in sales. As you stated your tone in these videos is a little different but the overall skill level in trading/controlling the game is what makes ur game so appealing. THAT is why I watch your videos.

[@dk0932]

what exactly does tabletalking mean? like does it have a negative connotaion to it?

[@dandydrew]

I actually refer to it as “table presence” over the simplified “table talk”. For a lot of people, the term table talk does have a negative connotation as it’s usually associated with being manipulative.

[@awh_isaac6092]

causally leaks everyone's discord tags💀

[@dandydrew]

These tags are part of open documentation within the Catan Community discord server. :)

[@tobiasobermayr501]

Black trading way too loosely with you. The OWS powerhouse you must starve him of road material a bit.

[@jackiejack901]

content is great sir keep it up but the thumbnail need some work

[@tylersmithgall]

Greatest video ever hahahaha

[@tobiasobermayr501]

you having 3 killah WS spots as outs makes the ore the must pick imo. I was sweating you taking the 5/8/10 bc. all outs suck imo and you're just stuck with a lot of W and S which everybody has on this board. Would even be insta loss imo.

[@robertommb]

EDIT: Spoiler \/ Lied your way to the win like a real politician!! 😂😅

[@E_-_-]

Always amused with the dunning kruger effects in the comments criticizing this and that. "What a rude play!", said the ones not winning tournaments

[@dandydrew]

Yeah, it’s always easier to comment while sitting on the sidelines. I’ve played more tournaments than most people have played total games. I’ve battle tested just about everything at this point. Oh well… hope more people come out to tournaments and give them a try!

[@kinlex.]

didn't know joe biden was so good at catan

[@carterwilson756]

Joe Biden 😂😂 if only he ran a country like you run a catan board

[@nimrodrubin9805]

1st

[@jigs4262]

Black was buttered toast from beginning with the "I know you were a smart player with your placement". 🧈