‘Catastrophically bad’ Russian defence minister Sergei Shoigu fired by Putin | Mark Galeotti

“He’s proven to be a pretty catastrophically bad defence minister in wartime.”
Former defence minister Sergei Shoigu is a personal friend of Putin and so was saved from being dismissed from his regime entirely despite being unpopular with his troops, says Mark Galeotti.
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[@gustawana-2446]

With a new role as security council, Shoiigu is actually got promoted

[@hogyndrwg6253]

Shoigu hasn’t been sacked, he’s been promoted!

[@mastersafari5349]

To a position with no real political power

[@SickBastard69]

@mastersafari5349. Go check again 😂

[@radioguy75]

Bets on how long before Shoigu has an apointment with a window...

[@ro--M]

Soygoo results in Poothing

[@TryDiy]

Let the defenestration commence.

[@user-ez6fl5ce9h]

Lies and distortion is what you specialize in. In your own countries changes take place without hullabaloo. Why Russia as if is from another planet?

[@rtasvadam1776]

6 Months

[@user-pj5tl5gf6l]

I think he will be okay unless he blabs

[@sciencelad8286]

…wait, is that Shoigu at the 7th floor window? 🪟 👀

[@PauldeBrem]

😂😂😂

[@Dark_Bandon]

ARRRH SPAT. Not any more.

[@novemberalpha6023]

Sipping tea?? 🤢

[@archieblair8728]

He has been promoted. He had requested to retire several years ago.

[@ghostlightx9005]

I was a big fan of Shoigu. Particularly all the footage the russians kindly supplied us of him being shown round weapons factories looking utterly baffled and clueless as to what is actually going on. Comedy gold.

[@gerryhouska2859]

It will be hard, almost impossible, to find a replacement as incompetent and corrupt as Soy goo!

[@stephensuddick1896]

I'm sorry to see him go. While his replacement will certainly be incompetent, it's hard to imagine he could be as incompetent as Shoigu.

[@daydays12]

good point

[@Withnail1969]

Yet still Russia is winning the war.

[@richardbernard6845]

Putin has put an economist in charge of the Russian military, who has no military experience. Putin is trying to get more utility out of his military budget and to the battlefield, instead of a significant portion being rerouted and going into Shoigu and his lieutenants pockets

[@GertKlimanschewski]

Absolute TRUE...... 👍 SHOIGU was best friend of UKRAINIAN counterstrikes, but also EVIL like PUTLER.

[@arvindkatiyar526]

In a Democracy BIDEN is tolerable but in a communist country people are not allowed to stay long in one position and become a BIDEN

[@markmierzejewski9534]

So this new guy is not a military man but the " albert speer " ... Should tell you everything you need to know.

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

He holds the "Order of Looting 1st Class" among many other decorations

[@capefear56]

@@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg Medal of Thievery

[@pbloemer]

Shoigu also never served...

[@hoilst265]

The interesting defence minister is the guy before Shoigu: Serdyukov...who was fired so Shoigu could take his job. Why was he fired? Well, Serdyukov wanted to modernise the military to more along western lines...oh, the hubris and the irony.

[@asdasdasddgdgdfgdg]

I remember that. IIRC Serdyukov was an economist as well.

[@TheGruntski]

Shoigu's replacement has zero military experience. Would that be an improvement?

[@briancarno8837]

"catasstophically bad" "unpopular with his troops" to listen to TR you would think Russia was losing

[@geraldtraynor]

Rupert's Radio is part of an alternative Carrollian world where up is down, down is up, left is right, bad is good, and so on. But I'm sure some of the comments are not just from bots here but from real, truly delusional people!

[@miketrusky476]

Russia is 30 times the size of Ukraine, 2 years and still claiming victory.

[@briancarno8837]

@@miketrusky476 if its 30 times the size, how delusinal was the US to think Ukraine could beat them?

[@miketrusky476]

@@briancarno8837 Afghanistan did it.

[@briancarno8837]

@@miketrusky476 Russia saw this as a threat to its survival..and with the US building bio labs on their border who could blame them?

[@louisebean9428]

Re arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Putins ship is going down 😂

[@BillinHungary]

The brother who runs the "Inside Russia" channel here on YT said that Shoigu's replacement has experience in raises taxes. Putin needs him to squeeze even more money out of citizens and corporations to fund their war effort.

[@rouz0]

Or Putin thinking to sell weapons😂

[@scotthughes7440]

@spencerhotz ?

[@sandybrown4957]

dont Rishi want any more money for war? or you will get billed later after the election

[@ckm-mkc]

Not sure what the defense minister has to do with taxes, but OK.

[@dennisgarber]

Apparently, he has believed in raising taxes to build the Russian Military Complex, not help russians, for a very long time. His economic specialty is in behavior feedback loops, possibly in ways to start and control them. I am not sure what this talent will mean. Maybe: Russian losses will lead to more patriotism, which will lead to more patriotism, which will lead for more Russian losses, which will lead to more Russian Patriotism.

[@dragonmyke]

So unpopular he is promoted.

[@thilomanten8701]

Shoigu was Ukraines best assett within PooTins formidable government...at least 1/3rd of procurement went into his pockets!

[@ghostlightx9005]

Best asset after The King of Incompetence himself.... putin.

[@thinktwice-me7ie]

Mark Galeotti is a treasure!

[@mickser101]

Fired😂😂😂😂😂 he got a promotion. I wouldn't expect Mark to know the difference

[@user-xr5fx2ni8m]

Many dont understand

[@YBM2007]

technically fired, just an attempt to save face

[@Dark_Bandon]

Putin enters the chat. "When stealing the military budget it's always better to hire an accountant then a builder".😂 #BYE_BYE_SHOIGU

[@novemberalpha6023]

When you have to misappropriate the fund, you have to go by rules.....

[@EricLaracy]

This headline is a lie in the first place because Shoigu was never fired. Shoigu has been promoted and the guy replacing him is an economist that's going to ramp things up whilst still keeping an eye on spending. But oh no according to Western media the walls are going to start closing in now, how many times have we heard that !!

[@Dark_Bandon]

@@novemberalpha6023 Yeah he didn't give Vova his 60%.

[@Dark_Bandon]

@@EricLaracy HA. He's been promoted to Putin's broom cupboard. Which by pure coincidence (WINK WINK) next to a very large window.😂😂😂

[@luisfigueiras5707]

The Russians. Fighting Nazis during WW2, and still fighting Nazis today

[@abbottshaull9831]

Yes, they are still fighting a Socialist Government that is governing Russia Federation.

[@YBM2007]

Putin, son of Vlasov

[@redcat9436]

You don't understand what Nazi's are.

[@TryDiy]

Prigozhin: SHOIGU! Shoighu: Launch the SAM

[@Mike_Davidson]

Did he say Sirguy Soygoo? 😂😂😂🤷🏻‍♂️

[@luisfigueiras5707]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣BS🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣BS🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣BS🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣BS🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@abrakadavra3193]

This guy is even more incompentent than he is corrupt.

[@russellspeed1693]

Mark?

[@psychohist]

@@russellspeed1693 Shoigu.

[@russellspeed1693]

@@psychohist oh, I thought Mark.

[@abrakadavra3193]

Shoigu

[@EricLaracy]

well if that's the case then it's a good move for Russia.

[@ScottMcMaster-er4xj]

Putin might be planning to toss Shoigu under the bus and blame him for all the failures. Also Sir-Guy Shy-goo? who pronounces his name like that?

[@ro--M]

Soygoo

[@Withnail1969]

What failures? The Russians are on the offensive and it seeems Ukraine doesn't have much left to stop them with.

[@ro--M]

@@Withnail1969 You mean African bodies are piling for Kremlin's empire of dirt? They + the Russian convicts + the poor rural Russians will be stopped. Pribed US politicians bought Russia some time for momentum and are responsible for countless lives lost, but soon their luck will run out as the material aid reaches the front lines.

[@OlizerVanAntoninus]

Silly poms

[@danielmiller3781]

@@Withnail1969their achievements are barely noticeable on the map, so much for the second most powerful military in the world

[@marklelohe3754]

I hope they keep him if he is so bad.

[@icu17siberia]

Russians are confused by this move, and will come here to find out what's really behind it.

[@stu281]

They won’t be disappointed times radio is comedy gold.

[@user-mc1fb7vx7m]

SHOIGO! I said LUNCH, not LAUNCH!!!

[@davidfoster2006]

Constantin on his inside Russia Channel has said that Shoigu has indeed been demoted to a position with a fancy name but of no actual power.

[@mithunkartha]

Similar to Medvedev.

[@abbottshaull9831]

That is the Russia (Former Soviet) way. You have someone who incompetent you promote them sideways into position that has no real job to be done, until they are needed again.

[@EricLaracy]

This headline is a lie in the first place because Shoigu was never fired. Shoigu has been promoted and the guy replacing him is an economist that's going to ramp things up whilst still keeping an eye on spending. But oh no according to Western media the walls are going to start closing in now, how many times have we heard that !!

[@diannegooding8733]

He put his hand in the money far too deeply, even for Russia.

[@DontForgetOldKolobok]

This is what happens when you don't know where the ammo is.....

[@waterst9]

I just read that Shoigu had absolutely NO prior military experience when he was appointed to the job. Of course his replacement has no experience either so - there you go.

[@stu281]

That’s why the Russian general staff run the war. Boy you’re all in for a massive shock.

[@Travis_22]

SHOIIIIGUUUU!!

[@milesb2111]

GERASIMOVVVV

[@alexanderlazarev3570]

​@@milesb2111BOooo JOoooo !? Lizzie eee... Sunak?

[@milesb2111]

@@alexanderlazarev3570 shouldn't you be on the frontlines for your master?

[@alexanderlazarev3570]

@@milesb2111 London bridge is falling down, my fair lady

[@Matt1975ism]

@@alexanderlazarev3570 Get to the Frontline Krembot 3570, you’re useless on here

[@MrLanternland]

Prigozhin hated Shoigu.

[@SuperMagnum2011]

Thank you . 🇬🇧🇺🇦

[@exiledscouser919]

Stay away from windows Sergei and forget taking a jet anywhere for the foreseeable future.

[@fposmith]

Promotion, is what you get right before you get sent for the cold one ! Or, the dirt nap !

[@HenkBoshoff]

So, Russia is putting more qualified people into positions of power... Some Western countries can learn from that.

[@gherkamum]

He should not go near windows....

[@Ultranationalist987]

Mark Galeotti has analyzed the appointment of new cabinets lastnight on his personal YT, obviously his analysis is almost perfect and accurately, there's disconnection boiling crisis in the pootin cycles.

[@onetruekeeper]

Shoigu was following Putin's orders to the letter so he couldn't be that bad.

[@generalinformation4386]

Can you imagine hiking in Siberia with Putin? You would never have confidence that you would awake to see the next day.

[@dancahill9585]

Sad news that the incredibly incompetent Shoigu is gone.

[@a.u.b1]

In the meantime, the "competent " general who replaced Zaluzhny cant retake Bakhmut or even supervised his defense line in Kharkiv 😂. Better to have an economist at this point than that clown.

[@YBM2007]

​@@a.u.b1Its a marathon, not a sprint - and Russia will lose anyways.

[@a.u.b1]

​@YBM2007 even in your wild dreams, that won't happen!😂

[@YBM2007]

@@a.u.b1 When Putin passes, not before that. Russia will not be at peace for the remainder of his lifetime

[@johnfox3573]

Gorbachev was the last great Russian Statesman, so far anyway

[@thomasdo3852]

Oh, hi Mark!

[@oliverhenry4407]

I really don't read anything more into this removal of Shoigu than what meets the eye and obvious explanation that Putin has come to realize this war is going to go on for years. Moving Shoigu to the head of security council is more than just a polite way to get him out of the way, as that is what Shoigu is actually good at... he is a master politician and was never a military type. The new Defense minister now has the role of 'serving' the military by making sure they get everything they need. The most important military role inside the armed forces is now the Chief of staff - currently held by Gerasimov... It will be interesting to see if he keeps that job. Bottom line, this is NOT good news for Ukraine, just the opposite unfortunately in my view.

[@EricLaracy]

yes indeed you are quite correct that's a very good analysis.

[@Hovercraftltd]

Poots could have had another decadent decade in his Grand Hotel Kremlin if he had not fallen for the further seduction of adding to his legacy with three glorious days to take Kiev. Instead has lost his admired original elite brigades and now reshuffling his henchmen to stave off the likely legacy of a collapsed Federation.

[@freeadvice1695]

Love how the interviewer stumbles all over shoigu’s name. Proooo-sessional. 👍

[@abdell75roussos]

Drink your tea Sergei while its still nice and hot.

[@goochi5544]

I heard he was applying for an apprentice job at garage 54.

[@larrybrus6209]

The money for Kharkov defense has gone through the laundry.

[@johannesnicolaas]

Latest rumor: Shoigu lives now permanently in a basement. And refuses to visit any room with a window.... Why oh why I do wonder??

[@pbloemer]

Shoigu, never served but his chest full with "awards"..... How will real soldiers feel about that?

[@georgedavidson957]

every see the SPV, the Angel interceptor, an SPC and Thunderbird 2 in the background?

[@gvguedes]

Just another 'ruler' meeting his end within a decade. Does the cycle of history persist?

[@pirrracy]

He is doing a great job. So is Putin... at failing miserably. Putin is incompetent and a very poor military strategist; so it is best if he is not replaced with someone with an actual brain.

[@s0ycapitan]

That's been the narrative for two years as Russia has ground up 25% of the UK's heavy weapons, alongside 60% of the Czech Republic's etc. They have beaten NATO as well as Ukraine.

[@foilhat1138]

@@s0ycapitan What has Russia lost in the process buddy? Year three and they still can't even take the Donbas. And refer to Desert Storm if you want to know what it would look like if NATO was actually involved.

[@pirrracy]

@@s0ycapitan Hilarious. Whereas in fact, the USA spent less than 2% of its annual military budget to decimate the russian armed forces without a single US or NATO boot on the ground. Nice try though.

[@Travis_22]

​@s0ycapitan You do make me lol with your comments, soyboy 😂😂 you really do

[@evgeniynagornyak1150]

Great job - takes Putin to Tiger ( forest) not an animal. 😂

[@whatthef911]

Anyone who gets promoted to job with more authority is technically 'fired' from their old job. Leave it to the British propaganda to frame the event in a bizarre technical way.

[@arau8310]

shoigu got canned!!?? I'm laughing my gerasimov...

[@marioformosa4259]

Ukraine was supposed to recover their lost territories and instead are losing more land. What 'appened?!

[@YBM2007]

Its a marathon, not a sprint.

[@giftedtheos]

I thought Shoigu was Japanese 👀

[@Melrose51653]

How is it that Ukraine did not at least have a summer offensive ready to go once enough artillery shells were delivered ? The high end Western tanks were supposed to be a huge deal. A few F16 groups were supposed to be coming on line about now. Do they even need more than artillery to push back against the current Russian drive and just keep pushing ?

[@unfixablegop]

Wow, Putin was really in a gracious mood with Shoigu. No unfortunate incident for Shoigu? Amazing!

[@vegas1a]

YET........

[@StephenGlencross-yg4nt]

Shoigu gone things could get worse ,, all have to go to the Hague at some point for crimes against humanity .

[@joels5150]

Shoigu was pretty resoundingly incompetent and corrupt. I certainly hope his replacement is at least as incompetent.

[@user-ke9dk4hs3u]

Shogui has been trying to retire for a while now but Putin kept requesting to keep him on same with Lavrov. I think Shogui just wants to wind down

[@John_Brian-qu5eq]

Thank you for your service great Shoigu. May god guide your life ❤

[@YBM2007]

I hear he's now in charge of QC at Tasty Periods and Moscows 'ladies of the night'

[@John_Brian-qu5eq]

@@YBM2007 there is no such thing. Russia is a place of traditional values

[@YBM2007]

@@John_Brian-qu5eq hahaha! you must not have seen their 'exports' where I live in the 90s and early 2000s

[@John_Brian-qu5eq]

@YBM2007 I've spoken to plenty of russians and it doesn't line up with what you saying

[@anaryl]

How was he fired when he's been selected to represent Russia at the UN.

[@DuncanEduardo]

Why do ground floor flats cost so much in Moscow?

[@edwardsianski725]

Looks as though kaputin is re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanicovich.

[@Enoch9500bc]

You guys are obviously clueless as what's happening. Shoigu hasn't been fired he's been promoted. Educate yourselves a bit about the structure of the Russian government before making assumptions based on nothing but your feelings.

[@NZrare]

Shoigu is only moving to a different very senior role in Russia - Shoigu is a star in the Russian military, Putins trusted buddy.

[@Tensionality_EFex-M777]

To Maria Avdeeva, not all heroines wear battle dresses

[@beammeup8458]

Its NOT Ukraine : it is NATO ...

[@clintcumberland1664]

Changing defence minister won’t make things any better for Russian soldiers. Their life means nothing to them. By the looks of things. Russian soldiers don’t mind dying for nothing 🤷‍♂️

[@Dark_Bandon]

But it does make it easier for Vova to steal the military budget.😂😂😂

[@abrahamdozer6273]

A permanent war economy will result in an even poorer Russian populace. Military spending is "non-regenerative" .... that is you divert wealth into activities that do not generate any further wealth. How tolerant is the Russian population to being kept as perpetual poor peasants? Maybe, it's open ended after generations of it.

[@icu17siberia]

Well, at least in the short term Russians arms industry can absorb the many auto workers losing their jobs to Chinese auto dumping in Russia

[@abrahamdozer6273]

@@icu17siberia At least, the Rssians are now getting better quality cars.

[@abbottshaull9831]

Yep, ask the last Soviet Union governing body. They were basically still on war economy footing since WWII.

[@abrahamdozer6273]

@@abbottshaull9831 It didn't work for them in the long run.

[@EricLaracy]

Well put it this way Putin is way more popular than Biden is. Also this headline is a lie in the first place because Shoigu was never fired. Shoigu has been promoted and the guy replacing him is an economist that's going to ramp things up whilst still keeping an eye on spending. But oh no according to Western media the walls are going to start closing in now, how many times have we heard that !!

[@luisfigueiras5707]

Rule number 1: Don't poke the Bear Rule number 2: Don't bluff the Dragon Rule number 3: Never forget rule 1 and 2

[@stevebriggs9399]

Poking the bear worked pretty well in 1855, 1905, 1917, and 1991. And history shows the dragon eats itself without being poked much.

[@matsgustafsson46]

According to new attac by Russia near Charkiv they lost over 1700 soldiers and 30 tanks and some howitzers.

[@mariadorosariodaraujofaria7705]

Shoygu não é bom nem mau. A Ucrânia é que é um país de guerreiros com Honra e Glória. Putin é um pavão que não compreendeu com quem se metia😊 For Your Glory 🇺🇦

[@spencerhutchins1252]

I swear I saw shoigu and maybe his wife in 2010 olympics in Whistler Canada in their Russian sports wear walking the Whistler village. Makes sense because he help build Sochi. Can anyone verify if he was in Candida in 2010 fir the Winter Olympics?

[@IVAN-bs5bq]

He would best keep away from open windows !

[@dacut6806]

and plane flights !!

[@stu281]

Body of an adult mind of a child comment.

[@davidporter7051]

On actual news because Shougu's cushy appointment to another easier and equally as prominent position is a big nothing burger. Ukraine has received all the aid they requested and then some, now they are crying they don't have the manpower to fight and if anyone wasn't a complete dull said this was the case when the US Congress didn't agree to send more aid last year. The problem Ukraine has isn't bullets, supplies, or money issues. They don't have a population willing to fight.

[@AssouBeqqi-hl1cp]

Shogun est un héros.personne ne saurait le nier.il se repose en attendant la victoire à co

[@scottkrater2131]

Prigohzin denied it. And blamed him for all the failures of the invasion.

[@guydreamr]

As the video said, Russia is definitely signalling that it's in it for the long-term. But guess what? Two can play at that game - the combined economies of the NATO are over 22 times that of Russia's. We've got this folks, easily.

[@icns01]

We got this easily? ✋️Not so fast...Not so sure.. Ability is one thing...political will is entirely another..👀

[@guydreamr]

@@icns01 Which has nothing to do with economics, the importance of which the Russian leader himself has indicated by his recent actions. And on that score, it's no contest versus the West.

[@stu281]

NATO and the west are not ready.

[@guydreamr]

@@stu281 Is that so, too bad their economies already exceed that of Russia's by orders of magnitude.

[@EricLaracy]

it will make no difference because Ukraine haven't got enough men......oh btw how are sanctions working out, are the walls closing in lol

[@spaghbol4536]

One more for life imprisonment

[@5micky2]

Putin's goal is to go from catastrophically bad to just bad.

[@bigearl3867]

Russia's Henry Ford moment?

[@JohanVanSynghel]

Чтобы агрессор оставался в своей стране и сам решал свои проблемы.

[@BoilsonA]

Shoigu He wasn't fired. He was reshuffled to a new role . 😂😂😂. Replaced by an economist . Neither any military experience. Smart 🧠 move !!!

[@stu281]

Doesn’t matter. The outcome will be decided by the Russian general staff.

[@user-km6jk6xh3v]

You can't say it was all the western supplies it was America that wouldn't give consent to supply Ukraine with more weapons bearing in mind those same weapons were sitting on polish soil for months

[@user-mp7nl7nn2c]

It was that horrible Shoigu that started the war not Putin. Putin didn't want a war honestly he didn't. So now we know who's to blame Putin can pull out.

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

Thunderbird 2 on his bookshelf.

[@georgedavidson957]

angel interceptor, SPV and SPC as well! :o)

[@evgeniynagornyak1150]

Shoi gun 😂

[@BanananaXbl]

58k views. No one cares, that Belousov became minister of defence 🥺🤣

[@VDD-2766]

Europe has together an economy, almost a size of the United States. What’s preventing them from doing more?

[@ghostlightx9005]

Ahem. If you were to list every country who has aided Ukraine and then order them by the amount of aid they gave calculated as a fraction of their own GDP, the US is not even in the top 20. So while the US has obviously given the most, they gave little compared to what they could actually AFFORD to give. Most of the top 20 in that list are EU countries.

[@VDD-2766]

@@ghostlightx9005 And yet it’s in Europes back yard. While I’m all for giving Ukraine more this isn’t an immediate problem for the US as it is for Europe and they seem less than serious about it.

[@ghostlightx9005]

@@VDD-2766 That's a fair comment but insinuating that the EU is slacking in their aid is not. And I have to say, this is in the whole world's back yard, not the EU's. Do you think your EU allies or the UK or Australia would hold back aiding the US if russia attacked Alaska? Just because it was far away? Never.

[@icu17siberia]

the last 6 months exposed Europes impotence, and highlighted how little its doing, or is willing to do for security on the continent

[@VDD-2766]

@@ghostlightx9005 Ah yes I think they would look at their budgets and say sorry we need to keep our citizens happy.

[@stevereade4858]

Yes ... the Ukrainians are probably very unhappy at Shoigu's departure. He was a major asset in the defeat of Russia; well, more specifically, his INCOMPETENCE was a major asset costing the Russians 100's of billions of rubles and a major swath of the young men that will be critical in Russia's survival, if only demographically. Bringing in someone who has no hands-on military experience can only turn-out to be a worse disaster. By comparison, Stalin (who Putin models himself after supposedly) had a huge cadre of competent generals and could afford to sack aka liquidate. He was willing to listen to the and take advice from several, notably Zhukov. Same meat-wave attacks aka slaughters, but well-directed, exploiting something they has massive amounts of - men and materiel.

[@user-un9wj6jg1x]

'The Prime Minister...' ?? Its been a week or 2, who is it now? Cameron again? Or a new one?😂😂😂😂😂

[@Dark_Bandon]

Clearly English is not your first language

[@user-un9wj6jg1x]

@@Dark_Bandon 💕

[@user-un9wj6jg1x]

Clearly, you have nothing worthwhile to add 😘

[@Dark_Bandon]

@@user-un9wj6jg1x Vova's Kharkiv CLUSTER FCK offensive is a FLOP. Like his wedding night with Anna Kabaeva.🤣🤣🤣

[@dirtyharry6297]

Reindeer herder by trade - what poo expected of him?

[@johnpublic168]

Is it true shoigue is just transfered to the head of fsd

[@bgregg55]

One of the biggest problems for dictators generally is developing a competent military that then turns itself on you. Thus explaining the very ineffective Russian forces.

[@stu281]

Ukraine is losing so how are they ineffective. Pushing BS won’t help you know.

[@EricLaracy]

yeah they were that ineffective they defended against a NATO backed Ukraine counter offensive in 2023 where Ukraine made zero net territory gain, lol lol lol

[@julianmcgee5741]

'Expert on russia'! Anyone could listen to real experts online and spout the same obvious things this sassenach ponce does.

[@alanbrown9178]

I do wish Times radio wouldn't open with some sound-bite that is then repeated part way through the discussion.... It doesn't make for good continuity.