Cathie Wood on Investing, Spot Bitcoin ETFs, $1 Million Bitcoin and What Drives Her

Cathie Wood is the founder, CEO and CIO of ARK Investment Management.
In this episode we discuss:
-Cathie's origin story and career path
-Lessons from the history of boom and bust cycles
-Monetary policy failures
-Why Bitcoin is important for everyone to understand
-ARK's investment strategy of disruptive innovation
-Banking failures and counter-party risk
-Spot Bitcoin ETFs
-$1 million Bitcoin forecast
-What drives Cathie and gives her purpose
Cathie created ARK in 2014 to identify large-scale investment opportunities in the public markets resulting from technological innovations centered around DNA sequencing, robotics, artificial intelligence, energy storage, and blockchain technology. She earned her Bachelor's in Finance and Economics from USC. In 2018, Cathie launched the Duddy Innovation Institute at her alma mater, Notre Dame Academy in Los Angeles, offering a challenging educational experience for young women.
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🗒️ IN THIS EPISODE:
0:00 Benefits of moving around as a kid
3:19 Early relationship with money, 70's stagflation
9:10 Art Laffer, Laffer Curve
13:15 "Monetary policy is unhinged."
15:47 Managing portfolios during dot com bubble
18:39 Navigating 2008-09 financial crisis
23:51 Bitcoin Amsterdam, Bitcoin 2024, Fold app promos
24:54 Educating investors
29:16 Bitcoin's value proposition
35:29 Harder landing coming
42:58 Coinkite ColdCard, CrowdHealth, Orange Pill App promos
44:58 Regional banking crisis
46:30 Bitcoin Spot ETFs
49:10 ARK Invest's ETF application
53:03 $1 million Bitcoin price by 2030
58:28 Truth and innovation will win out
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Rules based? What is it?

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Thank you for your amazing explicit content Natalie . The truth is crypto is the future and the question most people ask themselves is - if this is right time to invest? I feel those who would allow the market dynamism to determine when to trade or not are either new in this space in general or probably just naive, the sphere have seen far worse times than this, enlightened traders continue to make good use of the dip and pump even acquiring more equities towards trading sessions, I'd say that more emphasis should be put into trading, since it is way profitable than holding. All you need is the right advice on how to invest in crypto and you're back on track, Trading went smooth for me as I was able to raise over 30BTC when I started at 6 BTC in just 2 months of implementing trades with signals and insights from Amanda Chris , I would advise you all to trade your asset rather than hold for a future you aren't sure about...

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[@alisonsmith390]

Thank-you, Natalie! Such a great interview with one of the most inspiring Bitcoin advocates in the industry. Love Cathie’s insights. ❤

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[@BradGrayable]

I love Cathie Wood. Thanks for having her. I love what she said about trying to teach ALL investors. You can tell that she's actually genuine from all the interviews I've watched of her. A true hero. You can't say that about most fund managers or people in similar positions.

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really awesome interview Natalie! Cathie Wood is amazing

[@joshuaelimino1357]

However, please next time when u have some of these intelligent guests, ask them what is the risk with BTC. For example, what if the BTC code can be changed and the max is no longer 21M. What other challenges or risks do they see with BTC. What do they see going wrong, it can all be roses. Congratulations having Cathy on your side

[@waynerichardson1051]

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[@derekdelong6255]

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[@waynerichardson1051]

@@derekdelong6255 at least he's asking the question bro....that's a start!! It's a rabbit hole mate! Bitcoin is hope

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Great interview Natalie. What a wealth of knowledge Cathie Wood brings. Hope and happiness indeed 🥰

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Thank you for this wonderful video! I have incurred so much losses trading on my own....I trade well on demo but I think the real market is manipulated.... Can anyone help me out or at least tell me what I'm doing wrong?

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I love listening to successful people life and how they got where they are. We all start at the bottom. And it's the journey that builds us to success.

[@dfnope]

Cathie is a gem, thank you for having her

[@quantum_man]

Could you please interview Satoshi himself Craig Wright. That would be the biggest interview in this space 🚀 by far.

[@fredhaight2127]

Another great interview-Glad to see your subscribers are going up: waiting for the big boom for you and hit 1,000,000-maybe this interview will get you to 100,000

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really smart people talking smart things. Thanks a lot✌

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Who else thinks Art impressed Cathy with more than his intellect

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1:30

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Nicely done

[@josephcohen9480]

Is that 1.48 million $ in 2030 the actual price or is that in today's purchasing power of 1.48 (2023) dollars. Because at this rate come 2030 1.48 mill might only be worth what 140k is today...

[@sovereignruler]

Love the video Natalie. Cathie's ideas about Bitcoin's economic sovereignty is not hyperbole. Bitcoin is inevitable.

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BTC🏆

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It's estimated that Americans will need more than $1 million to retire comfortably, but I found most of us aren't bullish about meeting this goal. I've been sitting on over $600K equity from a house sale and I want to invest in the stock market, how do I achieve this?

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I've never heard any of Miss Leah's clients complain of loss. I think she's just too perfect

[@adeizaabdul881]

I met Miss Leah for the first time at a conference in Ontario, I invested $35k I made about $220k in one month.

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[@Joe99]

Is ARK still pro Ethereum?

[@tartafuna0120]

Ethereum is scam

[@knvl24h62]

Hes so happy about the Recession coming in, like hes super excited to be witnessing it.

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👍

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Cathy prediction is as good as the weather man. Something they are right and other times they are wrong.

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Stock to Flow will fall to Zero on BTC

[@VictoriaRodriguezCeja-cw5gz]

Soy nuevo en el mundo de las inversiones y tengo problemas para utilizar estas estrategias correctamente. ¿Dónde puedo encontrar un corredor legítimo? ¿Quién administrará mi cuenta y también me enseñará cómo operar con todo tipo de criptomonedas?🤑🤑

[@Iandurrant002]

Empiece por trabajar con un distribuidor profesional, si tiene uno. si no lo hace, le recomendaría al experto. GEORGE ONTARIO es realmente uno de los mejores operadores con los que jamás negociaría. lo guiará y le brindará una descripción general de cómo comenzar

[@turniakk]

Me sorprende que hayas mencionado a George comercializando servicios comerciales, pensé que la gente no lo conocía... es realmente increíble.

[@MayaKarina-ie4gq]

Sí, lo puedo creer, también gané con él, estaba muy triste después de mi primer intento, sabiendo muy bien que invierto tan poco con el miedo de ganar poco por falta de capital.

[@oliverjp380]

él le guiará y le enseñará cómo utilizar la volatilidad en el comercio y ganar dinero a pesar del gráfico de precios y la volatilidad de las criptomonedas.

[@stefanielasota]

Está claro que bitcoin ha demostrado su eficacia en estos tiempos de incertidumbre. Necesitamos más expertos como Sir Hubert Baron para educar a la gente sobre los cambios del mercado para que puedan evitar errores comunes. para que no salgan decepcionados del mercado

[@d1pz9]

I wonder if there's anyone who could underperform so badly at their job as she did, and yet keep the job and also be interviewed for their opinion on how to do their job. It's quite baffling to be getting investment opinions for her when she wrecked her funds shareholders with attrocious investment thesis and strategies. Anyone would be out of a job if they had a performance like Cathie

[@syntaxmsi]

Only one like on this comment? Come on people! Cathie Wood is a DISASTER. Her track record (terrible!) speaks for itself. Why is everyone pumping her tires?

[@sovereignruler]

The stalling of the Bitcoin etf by Gensler is to allow the central banking authorities to brace for a seismic shift away from fiat currency. Hence, CBDC. However, Gensler's fear is that the courts will compel him to clear it before he'd like to.

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2 beautiful women

[@maxkelter3561]

GG is a jerk. Congress needs make laws reguarding Crypto. Not the SEC. They only enforce laws .

[@chrishickmott7806]

Cathie wood predictions of gains in her company have not worked out check the figures for your self

[@joannegibbons601]

I would like to see innovation go after and catch these people who scam people out of their crypto!

[@SB-nk8ge]

Imagine getting Cathy to mind your kids...😂 I love it. She's a great woman

[@MostAlpha]

BTC is going to Z E R O

[@portableassets2054]

We have to remember that money is a store of value over time and the US dollar has lost over 99% of its value; and thus is not money. It is lazy, erroneous, irresponsible, dishonest, and harmful to refer to the US dollar (or any fiat currency) as money. Why not just refer to the US dollar as currency; why lie and call it money? For those in the USA, money is clearly defined in the Constitution and it clearly is not the US dollar. It is hard to listen to or trust folks on investments and stores of value when they lie and call the US dollar, money!

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@@Whats-App60 Can I just send you my bank account information, private keys to my digital assets, and my physical gold and silver? I really don't like texting. While I'm at it, can I also transfer my trusts and sign over the ownership shares to my companies?

[@daneomegan]

Please let me know exactly how the US dollar gets replaced by something else? I'll wait.....

[@zuma4847]

Is it only me or does the "I am very picky" sound bite sound too cheesy

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I will be forever grateful to you, you changed my entire life and I will continue to preach on your behalf for the whole world to hear you saved me from huge financial debt with just a small investment, thank you Mrs. Stella Hu

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Wow, amazing to see others trading with Ms. Stella Hu I am currently on my 5th trade with her and my portfolio has grown tremendously.

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l also invest with Mrs. Stella Hu, she charges a 20% commission on the profit made after each trading session, which is fair compared to the effort she put in to make huge profits.

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This is not the first time I am hearing of Mrs. Stella Hu and her exploits in the trading world but I have no idea how to reach her..

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My first investment in Mrs. Stella Hu gave me the confidence that led me to invest without fear of loss. I have already taken 3 of my friends to their guide and they are fine.

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She is really great at what she does with amazing skills, she changed my 0.1BTC to 2.1BTC within two weeks of trading, I am now fully confident that she is reliable.

[@chetandosco]

How the fuck is Cathie Wood 67

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i know . healthy lookin gal . she can afford the fountain of youth ⛲

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I think Soft Focus is in use. Basically lower resolution but you are right. She maintains herself very well.

[@brianw3663]

We will have a disaster with our currency; this is obvious. People have short-term thinking because they need to survive today to get to tomorrow. What good is a $1,000,000 BTC in 2030 if we default on a mortgage today. We have to use these inflated $ to live today.

[@REZZA2020]

I believe Bitcoin is exiting its phase as Risk-asset

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[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

1:28 "...and we know that you spent your YOUNG life at.." miau... ouch!! Women!! They don't even notice their own nature. So innocently devastating.

[@drxkalishnakov2464]

Bitcoin's counter party risk event happened during the crypto collapse , wholescale delevraging is what took BTC down to sub 20K down from almost 70k at the tip of thr debt fueled money creation bubble that fueled the crypto bubble in 20 and 21

[@Kaizen--_--]

I’ll never listen to anything Wood says again. Investing in her ARK funds (ARKF, ARKQ & ARKW) after her big predictions have lost me a tremendous amount of money. It’s my fault of course. But I’ll never listen to a thing she says again.

[@adambui7935]

Hi Cathie,I think you have loss your mind. I know you have invested all your company assets into bitcoin, fearing bitcoin my go to zero, ooooooh dear what have i done to myself

[@kevinzunigazuniga9472]

I love my ant Kathy...

[@TruthFreedom1776]

LOL Bitcoin is not private

[@ReVoltAgefilms]

CrYpTo? Cringe

[@fmtadvisory]

Wow she is still so FOS and has wiped out investors several times. What a joke