Catholic Epistemology: How Protestants Can Know Scripture

[@normanreategui9348]

I absolutely loved this, brother. Please, continue posting videos. God bless you!

[@ololadeaigoro9285]

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[@Daniel_Abraham1099]

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[@pigetstuck]

I appreciate all your videos. Thank you. Can I ask you a question about Marian devotion?

[@taylorbarrett384]

Thanks! I am happy to hear whatever question you have, but I can't promise to have any good answers for you. Lol

[@pigetstuck]

@@taylorbarrett384 It's fairly easy... I apologize if I already asked you this. Have you done an entire consecration to Mary?

[@taylorbarrett384]

@@pigetstuck If that is a particular devotion, no, I don't think I have.

[@pigetstuck]

@@taylorbarrett384 I think it is a particular devotion (maybe with a few different methods/formulations)

[@davidszaraz4605]

I don't think that you described the problem correctly. Of course faith comes first, that is God's gift. Now the question is in which "system", if I may use this word, you have a guarantee of having a complete and accurate canon? If we look in the protestant "system". There isn't such. A motive is not enough, I agree, its not sufficient. If a Samaritan gives you the Torah, and that is your first encounter with the scriptures, how do you know, there aren't other books, until you actually encounter them? You might live in a system where you will proclaim all these "motivs" about the Torah, but, what if you actually meet a christian who gives you a Bible, start reading it and now you realize that you experience the same "motivs " with these other books. Now lets say you later encouter an Ethiopic Christian who gives you an even bigger Bible and sudddenly you experience the same things with the book of Enoch and Jubilees. So where should we stop? Unless there is a church that claims to be divinely protected from erring and giving you a guarantee that this particular canon is the correct one, then you have no guarantee. Now you might ask, how do you know the church is protected. That is a different question. And this is not my point. The point is, which "system" is claiming to have a protection external to the Bible. In other words, when I ask the Catholic Church, how do I know this particular Bible is the complete one, I have an answer - the canon is handed down infallibly. Now what answer can I get from a protestant church when I ask somebody there? No one can guarantee me this. The problem is "within the church" or "system". As a protestant you cannot rely on anybody being protected from erring.

[@taylorbarrett384]

Actually the Catholic Church has not infallibly said that the 73 book Canon is complete. Nowhere has it said that the books from the larger Orthodox canons are not Canon. Apologist Jimmy Akin has made this point several times over the years. Regardless of what system you ascribe to, there will always be grey areas, mysteries, areas you don't have full understanding. That will be true of us even in eternity.

[@davidszaraz4605]

@@taylorbarrett384 I dare to disagree. I studied the canon quite extensively. The church claims to have a closed canon. I disagree with Akin. He doesn´t put forth anything to support his opinion. On the contrary I studied even EO scholars who also claim the Catholic Church is the only one that claims for herself a closed canon. Check out: "Did Councils Contradict Themselves on the Book of Esdras? Part 3" The relevant passage starts from 2:05:58

[@davidszaraz4605]

@@taylorbarrett384 Moreover a church cannot simply add books later on. That would undermine its faithfulness. Either you have an apostolic tradition or not. The church cannot claim infallibly that the 73 books is the apostolic tradition and later on claim that lets say 75 books is the apostolic tradition. This means the church erred in one instance. Both cannot be correct.

[@taylorbarrett384]

@@davidszaraz4605 I'm happy to read any text you can cite from the Magisterium where a claim is made about the Canon being closed. Otherwise, I see no evidence to support the notion that it is. The Council of Trent did not say, "only these books are Canonical."

[@davidszaraz4605]

@@taylorbarrett384 did you watch the video?