How is this building up the Church? What is purpose of speaking in tongues? I can’t find a simple easy answer to this.
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
Well, it's a form of prayer, so like any other form of prayer it builds up the Church by interceding for the needs of people, and building up the individual holiness of those praying. There is always power in praising God!
@bornbranded29 Жыл бұрын
Good point Marley. They want to do this nonsense, which might be demonic possession, while German bishops marry gays.
@chrisbennett32907 ай бұрын
Also maybe take a look at 1 Corinthians 14:4. It is a type of supernatural prayer that edifies the individual as we pray with the Spirit of God that is groaning within us in a manner too deep for words.
@maetaylor2668 Жыл бұрын
Please make this long enough to continue to feel the spirit
@MikePuorro2 жыл бұрын
What a rich Blessing! Thankyou for sharing.
@Hiroki-fp3re8 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm from Brazil, I'm from the Shalom Catholic Community, it's incredible how prayers in tongues are a blessing from God! It's very interesting to see that your dynamics are very similar to those here, the only difference is that we speak in Portuguese and you speak in English, yet it's incredible how God and the holy spirit are always present no matter where you are in the world. God Bless you and the Virgin Mary guide you! Shalom!
@isaaclongworthcc8 ай бұрын
I know some people from the Shalom Community (they just did a feature on one of the priests in this video - Fr. Juan Pablo Orozco). It is amazing how the Spirit unites us all!
@brian.longoria7 ай бұрын
Charismatic here. This is so beautiful. May God’s peace be with you all.
@isaaclongworthcc7 ай бұрын
Amen brother, peace to you as well!
@Mochaluv92424 күн бұрын
Correct me,please, if I’m wrong. My understanding of speaking in tongue isn’t this. I was taught the language of heaven, the Holy Spirit is speaking through this person. The gift was so people that speak and understand many varieties of languages could still gather and understand the “speaker”. It would be heard as each’s own language. If that’s the case you wouldn’t even know one was speaking in tongue. Help me understand l the origin of what these people are doing and why?
@FrMarkGoring2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! 🙏🏽
@UltanDorrian5 ай бұрын
Fr I have serious concerns with this speaking in tongues, Fr ripperger says “that talking in a language but not understanding what you are saying could be sinful” when Jesus said receive the Holy spirt and the gift of tongues is the ability for you to preach the gospel in say German and say somebody from India could understand it through the gift of the Holy Spirit. Also babbling on is not the gift of tongues but a mental health issue just look at the charismatic Protestants, we must not become like them, I am skeptics of tongues, because tongues is a language which God and man can understand. I think you need to re read the gospel.
@bluecollarcatholic81735 ай бұрын
@@UltanDorrian Saint Thomas Aquinas and Pope Saint John Paul II disagree with Fr Rippenger . With all due respect for the good father.
@batler124 ай бұрын
@@bluecollarcatholic8173 ST. THOMAS AQUINAS DIDNT SAY GIBBERISH LIKE THE PEOPLE IN THE VIDEO NOR HAS HE EVER DEFENDED THIS PRACTICE.
@stephkadaji Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I feel elevated spiritually.
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
Praise the Lord!
@kristianC078 ай бұрын
This is beautiful. Wow.
@RACKY9988 Жыл бұрын
I'm 19 yrs old Catholic 7 days I prayed before the Holy Eucharist i adored my lord from that moment Changed my Life I have also received the grace of speaking in Tongues if any one wants to receive this gift you just simply ask lord to give me the grace to speak in tougues
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
Amen! God loves to pour out His gifts on those who ask Him.
@J.loneliness Жыл бұрын
Que legal 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@antdell87302 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthccAmen
@minnihd64702 ай бұрын
and what language do you speak in tongues
@mike-j2fАй бұрын
Whilst watching this i started crying and i sang in tongues i am a trained singer i sing in an orchestra and play the clarinet but this is different i felt heaven here with me I bless the name of the lord
@isaaclongworthccАй бұрын
@@mike-j2f wow praise God, thanks for sharing! Keep practicing the beautiful gift He's given you
@mike-j2fАй бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc Glory be to God in the highest, Glory be to God almighty
@bluecollarcatholic81735 ай бұрын
Absolutely Beautiful!
@isaaclongworthcc5 ай бұрын
Praise the Lord!
@bluecollarcatholic81735 ай бұрын
" I will sing with my spirit and I will sing with my mind ". 1 Corinthians 14:15
@RealRawRecoveryRedemption5 ай бұрын
You can tell when a congregation is singing in a heavenly language. It is so pure and the presence of God is so strong.
@isaaclongworthcc5 ай бұрын
It really is amazing.
@Jo-kh1yo3 ай бұрын
Are we watching the same video? It sounded like gibberish. If it is another language, where is the translation????
@WorldFr23Ай бұрын
So powerful Lord Jesus we love You❤❤❤
@juboy044 ай бұрын
I love this 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾😭
@isaaclongworthcc4 ай бұрын
So glad to hear it!
@maryannepena45122 жыл бұрын
All God's blessings 🙏🙏🙏🙏 SURRENDER everything to Our dear Lord 🙏🙏🙏... Prayers for All God's Blessings 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@mylesvosylius2 жыл бұрын
Wow beautiful bro! 😇
@mylesvosylius2 жыл бұрын
Sent this to a few Pentecostal friends of mine and they were amazed!
@isaaclongworthcc2 жыл бұрын
@@mylesvosylius that's so cool, I'm glad they could see a side of Catholicism that they might not be as familiar with!
@Stephen-gn2br10 ай бұрын
Wow, this is powerful. What do your fellow catholics make of this though?
@nihil0bstat4 ай бұрын
its horseshite! he should repent
@tereanyalovesGod2 ай бұрын
That is so beautiful💗
@isaaclongworthcc2 ай бұрын
@@tereanyalovesGod the gifts of the Spirit are so beautiful!
@tereanyalovesGod2 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc I know right, God is truly too amazing God Bless you guys💓
@EliForPr3z Жыл бұрын
Love this! 1 Corinthians 14:15 🔥🤗
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
Amen! It's an amazing thing to sing in the Spirit!
@tabsamgal353610 ай бұрын
My brothers 😇 is there any chance this video could be longer? Praying with you, I feel how powerfully the Holy Spirit fills me 🔥 It's a pity that the film is so short Bless you ❤
@isaaclongworthcc10 ай бұрын
Sorry it's so short! We weren't planning on it being filmed, it was just a spontaneous moment of prayer, but someone captured it with their phone, hence it being only a quick video.
@tabsamgal353610 ай бұрын
Thank you for your answer 🙂thanks to the fact that the prayer was spontaneous, I felt that it was true and the presence of the Holy Spirit was felt 🔥 I am a regular Catholic from Poland who is being formed in the spirit of the new evangelization and I pray in tongues every day 🕊 I bless you brothers and the person who recorded this video ❤ Merry Christmas 😇
@estellaramirez1132 ай бұрын
Beautiful I love when Father JP talks in tongues because I always hear Jesus talking to me.
@leannebernard2185 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful!!!
@AbbamyFathertheLOVINGCARE3 ай бұрын
And what does our lovely holy Spirit Said?? I Always Know what He is talking
@stargazer39uk2 ай бұрын
beautiful
@JC-wj3hx3 ай бұрын
they forgot the verse that says "For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.".. you noticed here NOBODY inteprets anything... therefore it is not scriptural at all.. Tongues today are faked or at least LEARNED Behavior..
@isaaclongworthcc3 ай бұрын
You literally quoted a Scripture verse that says there are two ways to pray - one with the understanding, and one by the Spirit without understanding (either sung or spoken). Well, this video is is exactly that - singing prayers in the Spirit without the use of our understanding.
@drchristineobrien9704 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@bradleykimmons10 ай бұрын
My Anglican priest just went Catholic lol😅 He knows I ain’t following him unless there’s gonna be room for the Holy Spirit to move! So I like these videos.
@isaaclongworthcc7 ай бұрын
Haha good to hear! There's definitely room for the Holy Spirit to move in the Catholic Church.
@nihil0bstat4 ай бұрын
out with you,, you do not make any demands to God!
@bradleykimmons4 ай бұрын
@@nihil0bstat lol I can think whatever I want. It’s not a demand on God though. It’s more of an issue with the worshippers. They have to choose to be hungry for more.
@nihil0bstat4 ай бұрын
@@bradleykimmons yes, you can think what you want, but not everything you want is the will of God. The Holy Spirit moves only within those who have the Catholic Faith. I hope that clears it up for you arrogant Anglican heretic!
@nihil0bstat4 ай бұрын
and this is a very objective message concealed in frank words
@bookpaper1053 ай бұрын
Is anything being said or are you guys just singing because otherwise it’s gibberish
@isaaclongworthcc3 ай бұрын
We are speaking in tongues, which sounds like gibberish because we're praying in a heavenly language inspired by God. So there is a real meaning to what we're saying, but not one you could understand from an earthly language perspective.
@mike-j2fАй бұрын
1 Corinthians 14:2 “For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.” This verse indicates that speaking in tongues is a communication to God rather than to humans, which may lead to others perceiving it as unintelligible or gibberish. Ephesians 5:19: “Speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord.”
@Daniel_Abraham10992 жыл бұрын
Hi, I come from the Pentecostal tradition. I wanted to know if Glossolalia is part of a church teaching. There are literally no videos on KZbin about this topic. Also I know some trads whose head would explode if they saw this lol. How would you respond to them who claim speaking in tongues only refers to xenolalia.
@isaaclongworthcc2 жыл бұрын
Great questions Daniel! I I also have some trad friends that don't take too kindly to this style of prayer either. I did another video on this subject (going more in depth) that you can check out if you want. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6StlGiGa7Z8oqc&ab_channel=IsaacLongworth It seems clear that both glossolalia (tongues with no human origin) and xenolalia (speaking in human languages you had no previous knowledge of) are present in Scripture. At Pentecost, when the disciples preached the Gospel, each person heard in his own language (xenolalia). Multiple saints in Church history have evidenced this gift (such as Sts. Anthony of Padua, Francis Solano, and Francis Xavier to name a few). However there are times in Scripture when Christians are using tongues, even though they all speak the same language. (Paul and the Ephesians in Acts 19:2 and Peter in the house of Cornelius in Acts 10:46) So, since they weren't using xenolalia, that particular instance of tongues must be something else. Then Paul gives a further teaching on tongues that there are some tongues that cannot be understood by men, but are rather a heavenly language. " For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit." (1 Cor 14:2) Since the Catholic Church affirms that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are for today, the burden of proof would be on critics to show why xenolalia is a legitimate use of tongues, but not glossolalia.
@jonphinguyen Жыл бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc This is all answered by Aquinas in his commentary on the letters of St. Paul
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
@@jonphinguyen is his answer significantly different from the one I gave?
@ThePreacherman9 Жыл бұрын
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@matts1451 Жыл бұрын
We exist we are called charismatic catholics. We clap sing this litle light of mine raise our hands clap and consider our selves born again christians.
@guycauwels71736 ай бұрын
I want more of this. I'm evangelical and I love to sing in tongues together with my catholic brothers and sisters!
@isaaclongworthcc5 ай бұрын
So amazing how the Holy Spirit is drawing us together in prayer!
@Pierre_3155 ай бұрын
Hi Fr. Isaac, I was wondering, what is the difference between singing in tongues and speaking in tongues? Is there any? Also, I was curious, how do you know with certainty you are speaking in tongues, rather than jubilating as St. Augustine writes about? Cheers
@isaaclongworthcc4 ай бұрын
Great question! Speaking in tongues is either... A. Speaking in unknown human language. B. A heavenly prayer language that is of no earthly origin. C. A prophetic message in that heavenly language that is meant to be interpreted. While singing in tongues can be expressed in any of those three ways, it is most commonly used as Option B. as a way to praise God. Actually when St. Augustine speaks of jubilation, he is most likely referring to the gift of tongues expressed in singing.
@Pierre_3154 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc Interesting, thanks!
@ArmandoTheCatholic4 ай бұрын
No Church Father, or pre-Vatican II theologian ever speaks of such gifts. Additionally, speaking in unkown tongues that one has never learned has always been recognized as a sign of demonic possesion. This is contrary to the true gift of tongues received the by the apostles who were able to effectively communicate the gospel to people who heard them in their native tongues rather than in the tongues the apostles knew. Lastly, this sort of spirituality is completely contrary to the spirituality that deprives and mortifies the senses as described in the Imitation of Christ by Thomas A Kempis by providing an immediate consolation usually on demand. While God does grant tangible and feelings of consolation, we are deprived of such things as He wills the further we move on on the spiritual life. Point is, this is protestant nonsense. The origin of the Pentecostal "charismatic gift of tongues" is protestant, and as Our Lord declares: "A wicked tree bears wicked fruit... By their fruits you shall know them" Protestantism is a spiritual genocide that lead to the damnation of millions upon millions of souls. How can any good result directly from it?
@isaaclongworthcc4 ай бұрын
Not all of what you have said is true. - St. Paul clearly talks about kinds of tongues where it is not meant to be understood by human beings as it is spoken to God (ie. a prayer) in his letter to the Corinthians. This seems to be taking place in other descriptions of tongues (beyond the Pentecost moment) in Ephesus and in the house of Cornelius - which you can read in the Acts of the Apostles. - Sts. Augustine and Teresa of Avila speak of prayer that is made up of nonsensical speech (sometimes referred to in Church tradition as jubilation). There is clear evidence of this in their writings. In addition, Sts. Ignatius of Loyola, John Chrysostum, Padre Pio, Thomas Aquinas, and John Paul II either describe prayer that could be tongues, or there is anecdotal evidence of them praying in tongues.
@nihil0bstat4 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc no, St Paul would tell you to repent
@CherryDreamer963 ай бұрын
How does a typical Charasmatic Catholic service look ?
@isaaclongworthcc3 ай бұрын
@@CherryDreamer96 some things that are characteristic of charismatic prayer are: - extended times of singing songs of worship to God. - praying in tongues - listening for messages from God that He wants to speak to the whole group - praying for healing for people who are sick, injured, or struggling in some way - more physically expressive styles of prayer (ie. hands in the air to worship God, or placing hands on other people to pray for them) - asking the Holy Spirit to come and fill us
@BIBLESTUDY101 Жыл бұрын
Deceived by the devil. Makes me sick the blindness of the people today. Judgement is coming.
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
My friend, have you ever considered that you are the one who has been deceived? The devil does not want people to use the gifts of the Holy Spirit, and he will spread lies to make that happen. The gift of tongues is evidenced throughout Scripture and the history of the Church, as a beautiful way to bring God glory.
@nihil0bstat4 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc repent! I said it to you many times, go to confession. you are a vain liar and you know it
@minnihd64702 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc According to Paul if someone is speaking in tongues but nobody can understand it, than it is not real. Everything else would be gibberish. Which begs my question: What were they all saying?
@issacrmarakАй бұрын
@@minnihd6470bro can't you see that they all are from different races,nations, so they are all singing in their own native languages not rubbish
@minnihd6470Ай бұрын
@@issacrmarak then tell me what one of them said
@GuguQuintino Жыл бұрын
Vinde espirito santo 🕊️❤️🔥 enche os nossos corações
@caman1713 ай бұрын
well I must say that if Catholics are gonna embrace tongues, then they have to admit that non catholics receievd the gifts of the Spirit BEFORE they did. There were NO Catholics speaking in tongues in the early 1900's when the Charismatics began. If the catholic church is the only true church, what does that imply?
@isaaclongworthcc3 ай бұрын
I certainly won't deny that the Holy Spirit was poured out in a powerful way on the many Protestants who experienced the gift of tongues - which in many ways prompted a renewed interest in the gift as it spread into the Catholic Church. However, I don't entirely agree with your premise. Are you saying though that there was no gift of tongues until the 1900's? Because that certainly is not true, especially bearing in mind that Protestantism didn't exist until the 1500's. The Early Church was Catholic. In the Early Church, it seems that tongues were fairly common in their spiritual worship, and so it's a part of our Catholic heritage. However, throughout the history of the Catholic Church, the Holy Spirit has not been absent in pouring out His gifts. But I definitely agree that the revival of speaking in tongues in the Catholic Church has been largely prompted by the example of our Protestant brothers and sisters - for which I praise God!
@caman1713 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc I am saying that tongues was absent from the time of the church fathers til around 1900. Traditional and historical Catholic teaching was that Protestants could not be saved, as salvation came thru the Catholic Church. I am not sayin that is what is believed now, but historically that is the case. Of course I would disagree that the early church was "Catholic" but thats a side issue. I was merely saying that the anthemas against Protestants cant be valid if the Holy Spirit was poured out on them long before the Catholics (modernly speaking). A few decades ago, no Catholic wouldve even called Protestants "brothers and sisters".
@isaaclongworthcc3 ай бұрын
@@caman171 Gotcha. Well tongues was not absent from the Catholic Church throughout its history (as St. Teresa of Avila speaks of it quite explicitly in her writings as a prayer language, and there is good evidence that Sts. Francis Xavier, Francis Solano, Anthony of Padua, Dominic, Gaspar del Bufalo, and others also spoke in tongues). The Catholic belief is still that outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation, but that teaching has developed to have a broader understanding of how people can be saved through the Catholic Church even if they are not visibly a part of it (which is certainly different from how it was understood in the past - so you're right on that). Nevertheless, even in the early Church Fathers there is an understanding that God can still bestow grace, even salvific grace, on people outside the visible bounds of the Catholic Church - so it's not like this development is a radical shift. I also don't think that praying in tongues is the only evidence of outpouring of the Holy Spirit. However, I will again admit that God chose to revive the gift of tongues in an unprecedented way in the Protestant circles and used that to introduce it into more normative Catholic practice. I am happy to call Protestants my brothers and sisters in Christ - and I think that the Holy Spirit is doing a new work of unity amongst separated Christians which is very exciting, as there has been too much painful division in our history - of which Catholics have played no small part.
@rothmuller6572 Жыл бұрын
Mental Hospital. Circus
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
Jesus loves you.
@poetpeacegraceandlove Жыл бұрын
This brought tears to my eyes.
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
Praise the Lord! That's the Holy Spirit revealing Himself to you!
@marialiu51397 ай бұрын
Beautiful and reigns down peace!
@Mina-V. Жыл бұрын
Wish this were longer! Beautiful, thank you for sharing!💖
@J.loneliness Жыл бұрын
Eu também
@Call_Me_TrinityАй бұрын
Watch Jay Dyer brothers and sisters ☦️
@lorrainepec75772 жыл бұрын
These are the Companions of the Cross Order from Ottawa. These may be seminarians.
@isaaclongworthcc2 жыл бұрын
It's a mix of seminarians, priests, and deacons. We're praying together before a night of ministry at a parish.
@David-wz9znАй бұрын
If they're singing in tongues, why doesn't anyone know in what language they are talking?
@isaaclongworthccАй бұрын
We are speaking in tongues, which sounds like gibberish because we're praying in a heavenly language inspired by God. So there is a real meaning to what we're saying, but not one you could understand from an earthly language perspective.
@David-wz9zn18 күн бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc that's interesting, i thought when God, who is supernatural being as you're saying, wants to talk to a person, he talks in language that is possible to understand for humans, but as i read here, seems like you gave it a new kind of perspective and i guess you just easily proved me wrong, for sure you did
@rumagomes60666 ай бұрын
Speaking tongues is the language of the Holy Spirit and St. Paul said ,he spoke in tongues more then anyone and he got more revelations from the Holy Spirit. It's in the Bible.
@christine-z6d1t5 ай бұрын
I think if I want to pray in a different language I shall learn latin, the purest of languages. Jesus never prayed in a babbling manner nor does Our Father in Heaven. I couldn't and won't take part in this. Doesn't seem right. Doesn't "feel" right. Tell me this. Exactly what are you saying? Perhaps you are praising, perhaps you are uttering words of blasphemy. Who knows? Can you say for sure? I'd rather not take that chance since satan will try to influence us using any means possible as an opportunity for evil. Tell me this. When did the charismatic "renewal" come about, and by whom. Have you really looked into this as a possible Protestant heresy entering Our Lords Church back in the 60's, along with guitars, dancing about, brutalist architecture Church designs, communion in the hand, abhorrent modern church music and art? Chase after "the spirit" and I assure you "a spirit" will surly find you in the same way that a spirit will find you like with using new age accoutremont. I had many opportunities to join this movement in the 90's and saw nothing but power struggles, odd behavior, bizzaro story after bizzaro constant "laying on of hands", by people with known "shady lifestyles, Priests and Nuns that were known progressives who loved the attention, especially the Nuns with the "high level" of education including masters degrees in god knows what. A big thing at the time was a new psychotherapy technique she learned called, if I remember the name correctly " psychosynthesis", where you'd be "guided" by this Nun and the charismatic group by some sort of perhaps hypnosis to when you were an enfant on the day of your birth! This technique she learned in one of her colleges was that the "trauma" of your own birth and the coming down the birth canal etc. could "scar" you, and you needed to be "freed" from this along with other things that I can't now remember. So for me, you can follow this group if you'd like but it's a magnet for lunacy, people with narcissistic traits, hence , power struggles and sometimes weird cult like practices like being told to stare into a candle intently while praying in the group. Never regretted being the known as the "closed minded", guy who wouldn't be a part of that group at the time. Wanna lay your hands on me and I can assure you that you'll either be a Priest, Bishop, Doctor, my Wife or family member friend. Anyone one else and I'll be assessing the situation.
@Cascadia0074 ай бұрын
Hey why are you disrespecting god?
@isaaclongworthcc4 ай бұрын
I'm not. I'm praying to Him.
@Cascadia0074 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc You are not, u cannot babble and say its the tongue of spirit. Ur nothing but conning the people like most of the televangelist, how is that all people are speaking in tongues of spirit and non of them can't speak in the spirit of language. Its clear indication of conning people.
@ArmandoTheCatholic4 ай бұрын
@@Cascadia007You're quite right. This is an irreverence. God is not the author of confusion, but of clarity and reason.
@nihil0bstat4 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc you are just babbling words that sound like latin, please repent!
@catholicfemininity2126 Жыл бұрын
This sounds cool, but I'm very sus about tongues. God is not confusing, he's not gonna make people speak languages that they or others don't understand.
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've heard that a lot. Many people are suspicious about tongues, because they've listened to primarily Cessationist Protestant theologians that are suspicious of any gifts of the Holy Spirit being used today (including tongues). However, if you read through the Bible (especially 1 Corinthians 14) it becomes very clear that God does inspire a prayer language in people that is not comprehendible from a human perspective. "For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit." (1 Cor. 14:2)
@ItsEdboy Жыл бұрын
The reasoning for tongues is that it’s an indecipherable language ever changing impossible to translate and to prevent Satan from understanding our conversations with God.
@lizziesplaylists8500 Жыл бұрын
I do believe that God wants to bring us to a place deeper and more supernatural than the intellect though so I see a spiritual point in giving us a language to pray in that we CAN'T understand with our minds. The sacraments and contemplative prayer (esp Cloud of Unknowing tradition) and praying in tongues are all at a faith/not so cerebral/supernatural level. I think St Teresa of Avila wrote about praying in tongues. x
@mariadzhon5773 Жыл бұрын
You should read your bible
@milantoth6246 Жыл бұрын
Im new to charismatic theology but for most of my life I was closer to cessationism than any sort of charismatism. Im still not the greatest proponent of charismatic ideas, but besides speaking im tongues, which i just can’t really believe, ive come around to liking it. Charismatics are for a reason the best at retaining existing church members and getting new converts.
@charvankerck96172 жыл бұрын
.thank you
@sean-xj7nc4 ай бұрын
Anathema
@isaaclongworthcc4 ай бұрын
My friend, be careful about anathematizing the gifts of the Holy Spirit... Jesus has strong words to say about that in the Gospel.
@nihil0bstat4 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc shut up, dont pretend you speak for God Holy Spirit
@savthebav2 ай бұрын
Not Catholic.
@isaaclongworthcc2 ай бұрын
@@savthebav Actually we are! In fact since this video was taken, three of us are now ordained clergy. The Catholic Church has always been, and always will be, open to the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
@dawidkozinski5945 Жыл бұрын
Why are they waving hands like that?
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
Scripture often mentions lifting or raising your hands to God in prayer. The motion symbolizes exalting God on high, sending our worship up to Him, or even throwing our praise upwards to His throne. It's just a physical expression of the intention of the soul (like kneeling, bowing, sign of the cross, or other physical prayer gestures/postures).
@Lcoreyful Жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful! Wish i could have been there with yall 😄
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the day this style of worship becomes normative in the Church!
@EliForPr3z Жыл бұрын
It should be done in the church. Singing in tongues or the in the spirit edifies us. My Johnny Mac friend's heads will explode, but I can't help when im feeling joy from the holy spirit and I just pray and worship in tongues! God bless you guys ✝️
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
@@EliForPr3z Sometimes it's OK for the Holy Spirit to blow some people's minds haha. Thank you!
@mordecaiesther359111 ай бұрын
❤ the Catholic Church needs to let people talk in tongues . And those Priests weren’t speaking in tongues . There needs to be a Holy Ghost revival in the Catholic Church ❤in Jesus Name
@isaaclongworthcc11 ай бұрын
Well of the 8 men in the video, two of us are priests now, and the other 6 guys are still on track for the priesthood! The Catholic Church is very open to the gifts of the Holy Spirit including tongues.
@mordecaiesther359111 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc Father … I respect you . I just have NEVER seen tongues spoken at a Catholic Church . My aunt said after Vatican 2 , it used to be done all the time . Now???? The Holy Fire has been snuffed out . Be Blessed
@nihil0bstat4 ай бұрын
no
@Funnycomment1727 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@MomoTheFalseProphet5 ай бұрын
Bunch of 🤡🤡🤡
@johannesmariajosefsson8785 Жыл бұрын
Amen Hallelujah 🌹🌹🌹 sing it more plaese
@J.loneliness Жыл бұрын
É tão bonito, mas o vídeo é tão curto😢
@nurotracker60618 ай бұрын
Not long enough though
@hende84456 ай бұрын
Why is this common in alot of pentacostal churches but getting more rare in Catholic churches? Alot of Catholics i speak to think stuff like this is what crazy pentacostal churches do only.
@isaaclongworthcc6 ай бұрын
A lot of Catholics have not received good formation and catechesis on what the gifts of the Holy Spirit are and how to use them and thus are suspicious of things they're unfamiliar with.
@hende84456 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc Do you think majority of Catholic churches need more deep worship prayers in mass the way these charasmatic pentacostals do, so that people can start opening up to the holy spirit more.What would be key in having more members operating in gifts of the Spirit?
@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 Жыл бұрын
There is absolutely nothing mysterious about Biblical "tongues" - and there is only one type - when referring to something spoken, they are nothing more than real, rational language(s); usually, but not always, unknown to those listening to them, but always known by the speaker(s) - it’s their native language (in some cases, it is a language the speaker has learned). In contrast, the “tongues” Pentecostal and Charismatic Christians are producing today is an entirely self-created phenomenon. It is non-cognitive non-language utterance; random free vocalization based upon a subset of the existing underlying sounds (called phonemes) of the speaker’s native language, and any other language(s) the speaker may be familiar with or have had contact with. It is, in part, typically characterized by repetitive syllables, plays on sound patterns, alliteration, assonance, and over-simplification of syllable structure. It is also interesting to note that any disallowed sound combinations, i.e. consonant clusters, in the speaker’s native language are also disallowed in his/her tongues-speech. Further, this subset of phonemes typically contains only those sounds which are easiest to produce physiologically. Occasionally some speakers will use two or more subsets of phonemes to generate glossolalia, producing what, to them, sounds like two (or more) distinct “tongues languages”, thus claiming to be able to speak in “divers tongues”. There is absolutely _nothing_ that “tongues-speakers” are producing that cannot be explained in relatively simple linguistic terms. Conversely, when it comes to something spoken, there are absolutely _no_ Biblical references to “tongues” that do not refer to, and cannot be explained in light of, real rational language(s), though it may not be the explanation you want to hear, and it may be one which is radically different from what you believe, or were taught. _Nowhere in the Bible is modern tongues-speech advocated or evidenced._ “Praying in the Spirit” does _not_ refer to the words one is saying. Rather, it refers to how one is praying. In the three places it is used (Corinthians, Ephesians, and Jude), there is absolutely zero reference to 'languages' in connection with this phrase. “Praying in the Spirit” should be understood as praying in the power of the Spirit, by the leading of the Spirit, and according to His will. I'm not doubting or questioning the 'tongues experience'; glossolalia as the spiritual tool that it is, can be very powerful and, for many people, the experience is profound. As one commenter put it, “Speaking in tongues distracts the ego/analytical/conscious mind while leaving the subconscious (the heart) wide open to import the divine." Both the spiritual and physical benefits of using this tool are also well documented. Again though, it is important to note that this same statement can be made for virtually _any_ other culture that practices glossolalia. Religious and cultural differences aside, the glossolalia an Evenki Shaman in Siberia, a vodoun priestess in Togo and a Christian tongues-speaker in Alabama are producing are in no way different from each other. They’re all producing their glossolalia in the exact same way; they just have different explanations and beliefs as to why they’re doing it, and where it comes from. “Tongues” is to some Christian believers a very real and spiritually meaningful experience but consisting of emotional release via non-linguistic ‘free vocalizations’ at best; non-cognitive non language utterance - the subconscious playing with sounds to create what is perceived and interpreted as actual, meaningful speech. “In _some_ cases, I would argue that it is clearly a self/mass delusion prompted by such a strong desire to “experience God” that one creates that experience via “tongues”. ‘Tongues’ (read, *‘languages’* ) - the divine gift, is the God given ability effortlessly learn to speak and be understood through real-language barriers. It is not xenoglossy, nor is it modern tongues-speech. As a point of note, I’m a Linguist, and let me also add here that I am neither a so-called ‘cessationist’ nor a ‘continuationist’ - I do not identify with either term; in fact, I had never heard the two terms until just late in 2016. As far as I’m concerned, quite frankly, since the Biblical reference of “tongues” is to real, rational languages, obviously “tongues” haven’t “ceased”.
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
I'm not denying that by human powers alone, anyone is able to make babbling noises. It's very easy to fake tongues. The gift of tongues has three expressions. 1. A private prayer language that is not possible to be understood on a human level. 2. Prophetic tongues that still sound like babbling, but are meant to be prophetically interpreted in order to give God's message to the people present. 3. A miraculous ability to speak in a human language you do not know/ or you speak in your own language and others are able to understand. All three of these expressions are present in Scripture, and your theories about tongues do not account for all of the relevant Scripture passage, as well as the lived experience of Catholics throughout the history of the Church. For instance, what was happening in Acts 19:6 and Acts 10:46, when believers who all speak the same language (and thus no need for human understanding), begin to speak in tongues together? Why does Paul say, "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit"? (1 Cor. 14:2) In fact, that whole chapter, Paul goes into great depths to explain that tongues is not always expressed as an intelligible language.
@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 Жыл бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc Part 2 of 3 - *Peter and Cornelius* - A Roman soldier’s “household” typically consisted of his immediate family, a retinue of fellow soldiers, and numerous slaves. His relatives, like Cornelius, would have presumably spoken Latin. Educated Romans would have also spoken Greek over Latin. Fellow soldiers also spoke Latin, but as Roman soldiers they could have come from just about anywhere in the Empire. Likewise, and especially, his slaves. For these latter two groups, Latin and Greek would have likely been second/third languages. In short, though his fellow soldiers, and his slaves, spoke Latin, it may not at all have been their native language(s). His slaves almost certainly not. Like the soldiers, their native language(s) could have come from anywhere in the Roman Empire. In Cornelius’ household, we have several people who comprised a multi-lingual group. We must also surmise that most of this company also spoke Greek in varying degrees. From the narrative, we know that the incident is reported from the perspective of Peter and his group, and “They (Peter and his company) heard them speaking in languages (“tongues”) and praising God”. From this, we can deduce two types of speech here: (1) speech that Peter and his group understood, and (2) speech they did not understand. Considering Peter and his company report in the narrative that they knew that some of what was said were praises to God, it must have been said in a language they knew (likely Greek, but possibly some recognized Latin). Some of what was said however, they did not understand because it was foreign to them. Peter and his company did not speak, nor apparently recognize, those languages. When a bi-lingual or multi-lingual speaker utters something suddenly/spur of the moment in an emotional outburst (not to be taken with any negative connotations), the speaker will _always_ revert to their native language. That’s just a known fact. These people here were in the same situation and reverted to languages Peter and his company did not speak. Hence, as far as Peter and his company were concerned, they began “speaking in tongues (read “languages”)”. The reference to the situation being just as it was on Pentecost is a reference to the manner in which they were speaking (i.e. declaring the mighty works of God in a “bold and authoritative manner”), just as the apostles did on Pentecost - it has nothing to do with what language they were speaking, but rather the _manner_ in which they were speaking, that was the same as on Pentecost. See Part 3 of 3. No modern tongues-speech here; just unrecognized real languages. *Paul in Ephesus* - Like Corinth, Ephesus was a cultural melting pot. It boasted one of the seven wonders of the ancient world and was a place of pilgrimage for many. It was also what we might call today a “tourist trap” or sorts. It’s quite possible, and given what happened based on the narrative, very probable, that these individuals Paul met were not native Ephesians; thus, not native speakers of Greek. Again, there are two types of speech referenced here: one that Paul understood, and one he did not. We are not told what the native language of Paul’s new friends was. It appears however, that both these people and Paul conversed in the ‘common tongue’ of the day: Greek; a language Paul understood. When Paul baptized them, they may have simply been, out of joy of receiving the Holy Spirit, one may assume, expressing themselves in their native language; one that Paul was obviously not familiar with. The fact that they began speaking in a language unknown to Paul, further lends to the idea that these believers were not native Ephesians. No modern tongues-speech, just the unnamed native language of these disciples.
@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 Жыл бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc Part 3 of 3 - When it’s boiled down, most arguments for tongues at Pentecost can ultimately be said to hinge on two things; first, what the Holy Spirit actually gave the 12 apostles at Pentecost, and second, the crowd’s assumed linguistic diversity. Indeed, once can easily argue that the former completely hinges on the latter. If one carefully examines what the Greek text says the Holy Spirit gave the 12 apostles (yes, just 12; not 120, but that’s a story for another day) on Pentecost, and put the narrative into historical, cultural and linguistic perspective, one is compelled to conclude a very different view on the concept of “tongues” at Pentecost and, more so as “initial evidence” of being baptized in the Holy Spirit. One is also forced to rethink the actual languages and role they played in the event. At Pentecost, the Holy Spirit gave the 12 apostles what in the Greek text is “apophtheggesthai” - usually translated as “to give utterance”. This is, however, not the most accurate translation of this Greek word, but it’s the one that has come to be the more or less ‘de facto’ rendering. This word is from “apophtheggomai” which is best translated as “to give bold, authoritative, inspired speech to” (don’t go to Strong’s and look it up - “Strong’s” is a _concordance_ , not a lexicon; there’s a _huge_ difference). It refers *not* to the content/means of the speech (i.e., the language used), but rather to the *manner* of speaking. In each instance where this word occurs in scripture, the person's speech is bold, authoritative, and inspired, and it is always, by the way, in the speaker’s native language. In short, the Holy Spirit did not give the _language_ (i.e. the means/content), it gave the _manner_ in which it was spoken. So why is it usually translated as “to give utterance”? That hinges completely on the next part… The Jews present at Pentecost, as we are told, came from three areas: Judea, the Western Diaspora and the Eastern Diaspora. “All nations under heaven” is an idiomatic expression - Acts II: 9-11 tells us where those visiting were from. Jews from Judea spoke Aramaic as their mother tongue. I don’t think there’s any argument there. Jews (as well as anyone else) from the Western Diaspora spoke Greek - all those lands had been Hellenized for centuries and Greek had long displaced indigenous languages. The Eastern Diaspora was different - no Hellenization, and countries had their own languages. Though people in Jewish communities in these lands spoke the local languages in varying degrees of fluency, it was never their ‘mother tongue’. For Jews in the Eastern Diaspora, the language of ‘hearth and home’, the language “wherein they were born” was Aramaic. This language was one of the things that set them apart as being Jewish; it gave them their cultural and religious identity. Think of the Jews during the Babylonian Captivity/Exile - they did not abandon their language in favor of Babylonian; they held onto it and preserved it as part of their Jewish identity. Many lands, many places and people, but only two languages; Aramaic and Greek; and of course, the apostles spoke both. Something to think about - In the entire Pentecost narrative, _not one_ language is ever referenced by name. Why do you suppose that is? When Peter stood up and addressed the crowd, what language do you suppose he addressed them in?? The “list of nations”, as it’s called, of Acts 2: 9-11 is simply that - a list of countries, lands and nations that tell us where these people were from; *not* what language(s) they spoke, as most people assume. Further, the idea that the “tongues” of Acts II was xenoglossy also stems from this false assumption. The miracle of language at Pentecost was making the God of the Jews accessible to all people and moreover, not having to do so in one prescribed language; namely, Hebrew, the sacerdotal language of Judaism. Jewish religious custom and tradition demanded that any teaching, praying, reading, prophesying, etc. done from the temple (where the apostles were) be rendered _first_ in Hebrew, then followed by a translation into the vernacular. There even existed an ecclesiastical office for the individuals who did these translations (called the ‘mertugem’). On Pentecost, the apostles broke this tradition and “began to speak in ‘other’ (i.e. _other_ than Hebrew) languages (Aramaic and Greek), as the Holy Spirit kept giving a bold, authoritative, inspired manner of speaking to them. The apostles, by help and inspiration of the Holy Spirit, did away with this cultural and religious tradition, and addressed the crowd in Greek and Aramaic; the mother tongue of the attendees, instead of the culturally and religiously correct, and expected tradition of Hebrew first, then translations into the vernaculars. Doing this from the Temple where they were, broke a slew of cultural and religious taboos. The shock to the crowd was that they did not first hear the expected and culturally correct Hebrew first, then vernaculars. May sound a bit silly nowadays, but at the time, to do such a thing was unthinkable. Further added to the crowd’s reaction was to hear Galileans (the “country bumkins” of their day) speak so boldly, completely inspired, and with such authority. To suggest, as the apostles did that the God of the Jews was now available to non-Jews and in any language, completely dispensing with Hebrew altogether was tantamount to heresy; hence also part of the crowd's reaction (i.e., they must be ‘drunk’ to dare to do such a thing). Sounds a bit ridiculous in today’s times perhaps, but there was a time when many religions had specific sacred languages ‘attached/associated’ with them, and it was heresy to veer from their usage in the prescribed manner. No xenoglossy, no modern tongues-speech, just real, rational language(s). There *was* a language miracle at Pentecost provided by the Holy Spirit, no argument there; just not the one most people assume. And of course, again, when the apostles received the Holy Spirit, the only tongues (read ‘languages’) spoken were their own. In short, the gift of languages was not evidenced on Pentecost - it didn’t need to be. I would argue that, if looking for a gift of the Holy Spirit to assign to Pentecost, it would be more the gift of Prophesy than of Languages. This more correct historical, cultural and linguistic view negates that awkward discrepancy between the real, rational languages of Pentecost and the so-called “prayer language “ of Paul’s letter to the Corinthians that tongues-speakers have skated around and explained away by instituting various “types” of “tongues”. There is only one type of “tongues” in the Bible - real rational language(s).
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
@@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 Your interpretation doesn't make sense. If the multi-lingual slaves in the house of Cornelius (or the purported foreign tourists in Ephesus) are just praising God in their native tongues, then why does Acts make a seeming distinction between speaking in tongues and praising God? What is so significant about a person speaking in their native language, that it would somehow be seen as evidence for the coming of the Holy Spirit - as is the case in both these episodes? There is also no evidence (either in the tradition of the Church or in the plain reading of Scripture itself) that there were only two languages in the crowd at Pentecost. The miracle of tongues is not that they were given "bold utterance" but that they were able to preach to a muti-lingual crowd and all were able to understand (again, a different expression of tongues than prayer tongues). That is always the way that it was understood, and your theory is literally the first time I've heard something like it. It simply is not backed up by any Papal writings, reputable biblical scholars, Church fathers, or saints - at least to my knowledge, but I'd love to see your sources on this. Maybe I missed it, but what do you have to say about St. Paul writing "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit"? (1 Cor. 14:2) and how throughout that whole chapter, Paul goes into great depths to explain that tongues is not always expressed as an intelligible language?
@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474 Жыл бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc A somewhat quickly written reply - Not sure I’m getting what you mean about Acts making a distinction between speaking in tongues and praising God. To your second question - it’s not so much that they were praying to/praising God in their native language, so much as the manner in which they were doing it. “Tongues”, as some would assert, is not “the initial evidence of being filled with the Holy Spirit”. A major change in the way/manner in which you’re delivering those prayers and praises, I think is perhaps the better ‘evidence’. No, you’re right there is not. And that fact just kind of floors me sometimes. How is it that no one has ever questioned this? It seems that no one has ever really looked at this from the point of view of historical linguistics until relatively recently. I do not have an answer as to why - fear of the consequences of contradicting church teachings perhaps (which typically did not end well for the person doing the contradicting). Linguistic diversity at Pentecost is _assumed_ because of the so-called list of nations in vv 9-11 has historically always been assumed to also mean languages; thus the conclusion of linguistic diversity. The list however, is just that - a list of land, countries and places (that, by the way, comprise the lands of the Diaspora) . Not _once_ in the entire narrative is even so much as one language ever referenced by name. The list tells us where these people were from, the question is, if I were a Jew living in one of these places in the 1st century, what would my native language be? What is the language I would speak at home with family? What is the language “wherein I was born”? The answer is relatively straightforward - but we have to look at historical and linguistic evidence. Jews in the Diaspora didn’t live out in the ‘boonies’; they tended to stay in larger cities, and they lived together as a community. Think of an immigrant population here in the US. Not only are people going to live in an ethnic community, but they will retain their culture, customs, etc., and most importantly, their language. One of the last things that an immigrant culture will assimilate into is language. Usually, it doesn’t happen at all. Ethnic communities here almost always retain their language - it’s their identity. Most people will learn English in varying degrees of fluency, but it will never be their native language . Same situation for a 1st century Jewish ethnic community in a diasporan land. In the lands the comprise the Western Diaspora, this wasn’t an issue - whether you were Jew or Gentile, you spoke Greek. This was the result of centuries of Hellenization. Jews adopted the Koine dialect. In the lands that comprised the Eastern Diaspora, Jews maintained Aramaic as their native language - the language of hearth and home, the language ‘wherein they were born’. Like any ethnic group, most people likely learned the native language as well in varying degrees, but it was never their native language. Aramaic is the most outward thing that defined them as being Jewish. In short, linguistic diversity was not part of the picture at Pentecost. One needs to research the native language of Jewish communities in 1st century diasporan lands. So why the list of nations?? Many scholars assert that the list was put there for political reasons - lists like this were common amongst the Romans and typically comprised of various lands they had conquered. The political reasons for including the List of Nations in the narrative is quite interesting - I would encourage any reader to research it further. There are some excellent articles on the subject. Again, the assumption of xenoglossy at Pentecost hinges on the assumption of linguistic diversity. Further, the word “apophtheggesthai” is not at all well translated. It doesn’t mean to give utterance (i.e. to give the language(s) being spoken), but rather it concerns itself with the _manner_ in which the speaker is speaking. I would argue that it is translated as “to give utterance” because the assumption is xenoglossy due to the further assumption of linguistic diversity. 1Cor. 14:2 is perhaps *the* quintessential verse used by many to “evidence” modern tongues-speech in the Bible. Let’s paraphrase the KJB version of this verse into a more modern English. To do this, you need to get rid of the added “unknown”, use a more accurate translation from the Greek, and a more modern rendering of the archaic “tongue” - Once done, we have something more like this - “He that speaks in a language isn’t speaking to others, but only to God; no one hears [him] with understanding; nevertheless, though he’s praying in the Spirit, he’s speaking mysteries.” The whole passage is talking about real, rational language. Let me use an analogy - If I attend a worship service in “East Haystack”, some remote town in the US out in the middle of nowhere, two things are going to be evident: one; there’s only going to be so many people at that service (i.e. there will be a finite given amount of people there) and two; the chances that anyone speaks anything *but* English is pretty slim to nil. If I start praying aloud in say Lithuanian, there’s no one at that service that’s going to understand a single word I’m saying. Even though I’m speaking a real language, no one _there_ will understand my “tongue”. That does not mean or imply that no one else understands Lithuanian; just no one at _that particular service._ In this sense, therefore, I am speaking _only to God,_ since he understands all languages. To everyone at the service, even though I’m praying in the Spirit (as defined in my original post), to the people listening to me, I’m still speaking “mysteries” - i.e. even though I’m praying as I ought, no one understands me; no one has a clue what I’m saying as no one speaks my language. When one looks at the original Greek, the verb which is usually translated as “understandeth/understands” is actually the verb “to hear” in the sense of understanding what you’re hearing someone say. The verb is *not* “to understand”. That part of the verse is more properly “no one hears [him] with understanding”, i.e. no one listening to him understands what he’s saying. There is _nothing_ in this passage that suggests modern tongues-speech nor is there anything that even _remotely_ suggests that the speaker does not understand what he himself is saying. The Greek bears this out; it is the _listeners_ who do not understand, *not* the speaker - no matter how hard modern tongues-speakers want the speaker to also not understand…….it just isn’t there. Paul’s letter to Corinth also speaks to real language issues facing a multi-cultural, multi-lingual population in large city situated on two major seaports. It is always the ‘audience’ who does not understand the ‘speaker’, as no one at that given gathering speaks/understand language. The speaker always knows what he himself is saying.
@Bopinionated7 ай бұрын
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@vilerite4 ай бұрын
I watch this for brain nourishment
@jamesbland71835 ай бұрын
Not catholic
@isaaclongworthcc5 ай бұрын
Yes we are! We're a community of Catholic priests and seminarians.
@ratatoskr93665 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc I think he's talking about the practice of "speaking" in tongues not whether or not you're Catholic.
@isaaclongworthcc5 ай бұрын
@@ratatoskr9366 Gotcha. Well in that case, speaking in tongues is a very Catholic practice and has been a part of our tradition since the very beginning of the Church.
@ratatoskr93665 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc Sorry Father, that's incorrect. The speaking in tongues from the Bible is vastly different from the "speaking" in tongues happening here, which is Pentecostal in origin not Catholic. Father Rippenger has a grest lecture on this which consists mainly of three points. 1) It's a GIFT of the Holy Spirit. You can't call upon a gift, it's not a superpower. 2) The speaking of tongues from the Bible had a purpose, it was to spread the Church and the gospel at a faster rate. 3) There are two types of speaking in tongues, but both could be heard by the recipient. The pentecostal "speaking" in tongues actually comes from a mistranslation in scripture. There was an interesting study done where linguists broke down pentecostal "speaking" and they found the inflections used in their speech still was based in the speakers native language. It was found that they weren't actually speaking a new language, which the gift of the Holy Spirit would've granted you the ability to do. Also while there is no official doctrine on charismatic "gifts" of the Holy Spirit, the CCS has criteria for determining miracles such as Speaking in Tongues. Some saints were gifted with this gift like St. Vincent Ferrer. But the pentecostal "speaking" does not fit the bill in the criteria according to the CCS.
@isaaclongworthcc5 ай бұрын
@@ratatoskr9366 I have listened to Fr. Ripperger's opinions on this subject and I do not find them consistent with what Scripture says. For instance, how would you explain these Scriptural texts that speak of the gift of tongues? Acts 10:46 - After Peter evangelizes Cornelius and his household (they all speak the same language) the Holy Spirit falls on them and they begin to prophesy and speak in tongues. What exactly are they speaking in - if they all understand the same language? Acts 19:6 - Paul baptizes a group of believers in Ephesus (again who all speak the same language) and immediately there is an outbreak of prophesy and tongues. Why are they speaking in tongues when there is no need to evangelize in a different language? 1 Corinthians 14:2 - The Apostle Paul himself teaches on how tongues is not always meant to be understood by other men, but that sometimes it is meant to speak to God in a mysterious way. "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit." Those are just three (and trust me there's more) Scripture verses that speak of the gift of tongues being used in a way that goes beyond your narrow interpretation of tongues being solely useful to evangelize in unknown languages.
@dylanfrasier40545 ай бұрын
In sorry but that's not catholic or inspiring.Fight the demonic influence.
@isaaclongworthcc5 ай бұрын
Why are you calling a gift of the Spirit demonic? Can you point to any scriptural reference or Church document that says Catholics should not pray in tongues?
@dylanfrasier40545 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc yes in the exact verse the apostles are directly communicating to others a message.Speaking in tongues dos not convey a message.Noone knows what it means.Is it random hebrew..I feel that god always communicates directly.I feel that catholic has been weakened by charismatic.Just my opinion.If you are a real father I respect you.
@isaaclongworthcc5 ай бұрын
@@dylanfrasier4054 There are several Scriptural descriptions of people using the gift of tongues, and it is not always identical to what the apostles were doing on the day of Pentecost. For instance... Acts 10:46 - After Peter evangelizes Cornelius and his household (they all speak the same language) the Holy Spirit falls on them and they begin to prophesy and speak in tongues. Since they all speak the same language, there is no need for them to evangelize in different languages, so some other spiritual phenomena is going on. Acts 19:6 - Paul baptizes a group of believers in Ephesus (again who all speak the same language) and immediately there is an outbreak of prophesy and tongues. Again, why are they speaking in tongues when there is no need to evangelize in a different language? 1 Corinthians 14:2 - The Apostle Paul himself teaches on how tongues is not always meant to be understood by other men, but that sometimes it is meant to speak to God in a mysterious way. "For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit." These are just some of the Scriptural examples that speak of tongues being used as a prayer to God (that is unknown by humans) rather than solely as a way to evangelize in foreign languages.
@Cascadia0075 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc " Speaking in tongues " means speaking in the language unknow to that person, " to prophesy " means to preach. Applied to all the verse of the bible of the NT. Coming to the 1st Corinthians - " Uttering mysteries " means spiritual truths as we find the gospels especially in the parables of Jesus, " speak in tongues of angels " similar or same as " Uttering mysteries " use the parable of Jesus especially the " GOOD SAMARITAN ". These above are the teaching of the early church fathers, even tho church fathers like Gregory of Nyssa proposed the idea that the protestants claim but eventually they drop it and ends with it shd be interpreted within the context of the church. The 1st Corinthians St. Paul uses the " IF " , " HOW " and " I REASONED " clause, [ " which is used to make conditional or hypothetical statements. In rhetoric and grammar, these are called conditional clauses or conditional sentences " ]. Ur misguiding people.
@peterburford99535 ай бұрын
This is demonic
@isaaclongworthcc5 ай бұрын
Why are you calling a gift of the Spirit demonic? Can you point to any scriptural reference or Church document that says Catholics should not pray in tongues?
@Cascadia0075 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc can u pray in other languages that u have not spoken off? cause if ur blessed with the tongue of angles (taken by u literally ) then u shd also be able to preach in other languages as we see in the Book of Acts. The type of prayer ur doing is nothing but modern day protestant cons actions. Early church fathers provided us with better reasons and understanding of the pauline epistles.
@RedWolf55 ай бұрын
Protestants
@isaaclongworthcc5 ай бұрын
Nah we're Catholics. And since this video was taken, three of us have been ordained!
@maukachauka87935 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc ordained to ministry of satan lol
@RedWolf55 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc that’s not Catholic you are Protestants.
@AlexanderTaguinod-ud4ts Жыл бұрын
It's Latin
@isaaclongworthcc Жыл бұрын
Not this time! I do pray in Latin sometimes, but this time, we were all praying in tongues, which is a gift of praise and intercession given by the Holy Spirit.
@nihil0bstat4 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc no it sounds like a very vulgar and fake ass latin
@nihil0bstat4 ай бұрын
repent! you're obviously just making this up for attention
@isaaclongworthcc4 ай бұрын
Jesus loves you!
@nihil0bstat4 ай бұрын
@@isaaclongworthcc vainglory!
@MariaZarate-pw8yu6 ай бұрын
This is the true gift of tongues not the pentecostal shalalala