This drama is fucking ridiculous. I can’t run levels like bloodlust with good fps on certain sections and cbf is a life saver for me cause it makes the first ship actually playable while recording runs. It’s the definition of leveling the playing field entirely (y’all see that guy who did the first wave in tidal wave on mobile?) and it’s stupid that it’s even controversial at all
@wavix2 ай бұрын
yeah, adding cbf to the main game would literally be an almost unanimously popular decision, but if that never happens we just have permanent drama like this basically
@zedrikk27422 ай бұрын
To add to this, it’s the same with fps bypass. It leveled the playing field a bit for players who couldn’t buy higher refresh rate monitors. This mod does the exact same thing but for people with lower end rigs, which I’d say is even better than what fps bypass did.
@elion42452 ай бұрын
Have you not deleted the moon? It's perfectly fine to do so and ldm like that is acceptable in pointercrate (quick messaging random moderator should be enough)
@zedrikk27422 ай бұрын
I’m the type of guy to want to beat every level I play full detail. I never liked the fact all the levels I’ve practiced had to be done in ldm, even with the visual clarity.
@zedrikk27422 ай бұрын
The moon isn’t the only thing that bricks my fps tho but it is a major one. Recording my runs through the extension always had frame drops and lag spikes
@EhtesamUddinPrince2 ай бұрын
Wavix's bank account after CBF started existing: 📈📈📈📈📈
@wavix2 ай бұрын
i’ll have to spend it all on medical bills after i get an aneurysm from following everything tho 😭
@GDAccelerate2 ай бұрын
Wavix bank account once Grief gets verified and the largest rate controversy since Tidal Wave happens: 📈📈📈📈📈
@AydenAndGo2 ай бұрын
@@wavix ok
@zhiqiangchen62352 ай бұрын
Guys what if wavix made cbf so he can get money
@OptexPsykotic2 ай бұрын
@@wavixI just play with 742 fps (it's the most I can hit)
@T4ngi2 ай бұрын
Grief is gonna be a whole nother story lol
@Fl0pp_gd2 ай бұрын
Fr lmao
@Gleiverx52 ай бұрын
X about to go wild 💀
@kadelrohdri78982 ай бұрын
Idk doggie is on stream 80 I'm getting paranoid this might not get verified
@LoginGD2 ай бұрын
@@kadelrohdri7898it’s a really hard level
@tupanar4o2 ай бұрын
@@kadelrohdri7898Chill this is a top 1, it’s normal. I thought that he is gonna be verifying this for years. I’m surprised that he has that good of a progress.
@darthmauve2 ай бұрын
im going to click between all of the frames
@GPR_GD2 ай бұрын
ahhhh
@Fl0pp_gd2 ай бұрын
No don’t do it :despair:
@TGKPostsSometimes2 ай бұрын
NOOOOOOO
@Sepi-chu_loves_moths2 ай бұрын
You can click between my frames 😏
@Sepi-chu_loves_moths2 ай бұрын
@@desmeon ok buddy i dont need to tell you hes a minor, bait used to be believable
@rixbyte74382 ай бұрын
grief verification with cbf is gonna hit the gd community like crack in the 90s
@jaleelatom81092 ай бұрын
*80s
@trollskaАй бұрын
the 9/11 of gd
@superyoshiparker897923 күн бұрын
This is probably going to cause a massive argument between the community
@contentfilter62772 ай бұрын
The only reason I can kind of think of is that the verifier of every top demon will be required to not use CBF, but then everyone else that goes to beat it is allowed to. It seems kind of unfair for the verifier to go through an experience that is much harder than victors of the level.
@elion42452 ай бұрын
Verifiers already usually have much more difficult experience psychologically than victors afterwards. I am curious what happens if the level is verified with cbf, but is beaten without it by someone later. Like zodiac xander cheating = tech verifier, or space cheating = doggie verifier. It could work the same way..
@bloodreptil2 ай бұрын
I mean, its kinda fair tbh. Not for lower end extremes but for top 10 extremes. CBF allows for clicks that are normally physically impossible.
@oilgraphics2 ай бұрын
@@bloodreptil did you misread it he said that the verifier has to NOT use cbf
@kaydacant2 ай бұрын
@@oilgraphics they're arguing that it's fair because otherwise they could introduce jumps that are impossible without CBF
@bloodreptil2 ай бұрын
He said its unfair. I said its fair. Its stupid, but still fair.@@oilgraphics
@fakeblast2 ай бұрын
The thing i hate the most about this drama is that people dont understand that for CBF to be added into the game by Rob, the community need to popularize it, the community need to show rob that they want this in the game, by gatekeeping cbf and being strongly against it, people are just making rob take longer with it, he should be aware that the community and even people who dont use it would benefit from it Simple logic
@deadsdeads2 ай бұрын
yeah it's "cheating", but being a fool like this and shouting cbf bad all over the place just makes it look very bad. it should be added sooner
@ellie_lovesyouforever2 ай бұрын
instead of CBF why dont we just delete CBF? boom all drama fixed well why dont we just delete gd? then no more drama!
@Gleiverx52 ай бұрын
Just delete X. and boom all drama is gone
@NPTNEGD2 ай бұрын
@@Gleiverx5 even better just delete the Internet and bam no more controversies
@liminall2 ай бұрын
Would just make people more mad, and it would get reuploaded.
@nulleddddd2 ай бұрын
@@liminallread full comment 🙏🙏
@liminall2 ай бұрын
@@nulleddddd some people actually believe it tho
@Zubzelok332 ай бұрын
friendly reminder that itzkiba is the same person that made hitboxes on this same level funny, just to see if mfs got mad by it
@sameeknowsitall2 ай бұрын
Didn’t zoink do that?
@theactualmydoorfellintoperson2 ай бұрын
He also refused to fix a 2.2 bug at the end of one of his levels just because he thought it was funny and so he had to be pressured by elder mods to fix it
@Zubzelok332 ай бұрын
@@sameeknowsitall kiba told zoink to do that
@sameeknowsitall2 ай бұрын
@@Zubzelok33 got it
@mldyfifi2 ай бұрын
the funny hitboxes are not even bad and their purpose is to make you die faster when you fail. it doesn’t affect you at all lol
@marshalltentis67092 ай бұрын
I think some people are forgetting how hard these levels are. I can't even fathom how someone beats a level like nullscapes or grief. In the end, CBF is just resolving a notorious hardware issue (FPS severly impacting gameplay) that has plagued the game since its inception and is making these inconceviably difficult levels slightly more achievable for the best players to ever touch the game. While it is cheating on paper, we are not the ones putting in upwards of 100,000 attempts and countless hours to verify a two minute geometry dash level. If it matters to a top player that their click registers between two frames of their 360 Hz monitor, I think we should all just chill out about it and give them this small advantage.
@EpicPotatoesGMD2 ай бұрын
8:07 Wavix couldn't hold back.
@SHGD.GrandM2 ай бұрын
Degenerocity mensioned
@everybodyisnobody95382 ай бұрын
I feel like with the cbf blocker almost no one is going to play Nullscapes.
@muridayo50062 ай бұрын
Chef
@everybodyisnobody95382 ай бұрын
@@muridayo5006 oh lol, I meant cbf
@quaxx2 ай бұрын
chef blocker
@Fl0pp_gd2 ай бұрын
chef blocker
@yesntlol2 ай бұрын
@@quaxx nobody's cooking 😥
@ids.2 ай бұрын
1:23 i legitimately thought that this edit was actually apart the level
@tmtsps122 ай бұрын
Lmao
@JustanotherF32 ай бұрын
It should be
@triqure2 ай бұрын
I love CBF! Right now, I have to play on a shitty 2013 laptop and I can play all the levels I used to on my god PC, literally no skill difference. Shame that it’s blocked in this level.
@bloodreptil2 ай бұрын
it was removed from nullscapes btw
@Fl0pp_gd2 ай бұрын
@@bloodreptilYES
@triqure2 ай бұрын
@@bloodreptil damn
@jaleelatom81092 ай бұрын
How many frames do you play on?
@triqure2 ай бұрын
@@jaleelatom8109 60
@AdyaGD2 ай бұрын
this is probably the funniest drama in this community lmao
@memesong212 ай бұрын
i think the acheron ufo click was funnier
@AdyaGD2 ай бұрын
@@memesong21 yeah u right lol
@Blahblah-bw2fu2 ай бұрын
Yoo it's the pro morrocan player
@exiled_shadegd2 ай бұрын
This drama is just ridiculously annoying. I’ve always been for CBF but both sides have been super super annoying. Twitter is annoying just to look at, not just to interact with people in
@TheHENOOB2 ай бұрын
Thankfully my whole countey got banned out of it 🎉🎉
@aftershokke2 ай бұрын
@@TheHENOOB thanks for doxxing urslef, im now approaching your house in Brazil at a speed of mach 17
@ThiefOfTheMoon2 ай бұрын
Why is the CBF controversy not fully contained in the top player community. No one outside of it is affected in any significant way. It is quite petty.
@Calamity9942 ай бұрын
mobile players and low refresh rate users are impacted a lot
@necrolord57992 ай бұрын
bunch of kiddies who think they have the moral high ground because they beat one extreme demon without cbf and want to flaunt it
@fakeblast2 ай бұрын
@@Calamity994 there is literally cbf for mobile already.
@dareal_roizy2 ай бұрын
@@fakeblaststill not for android, and for ios its paid
@fakeblast2 ай бұрын
@@dareal_roizy ok so gatekeep everyone else because the only playerbase who never really had any relevance in top play whatsoever feel like they are in a disadvantage even if rob himself said he will add cbf eventually to the game officially
@cynical4112 ай бұрын
I love when creators gatekeep difficulty :)
@Fl0pp_gd2 ай бұрын
I hate it >:(
@Voxelgd2 ай бұрын
@@Fl0pp_gd they were being sarcastic
@Fl0pp_gd2 ай бұрын
@@Voxelgd ik
@crypticchrome74882 ай бұрын
If people were more into CBT than CBF none of this drama would exist.
@rraaiin2 ай бұрын
click between ticks
@aftershokke2 ай бұрын
Mods like CBF and Platformer saves should be in the base game honestly
@GamingForeverEpic2 ай бұрын
Yes
@ZovoriАй бұрын
I personally use CBF because it makes me enjoy the game more, and I genuinely do not understand the hate of the mod. I understand Kiba not wanting people to beat Nullscapes while using the mod as I can see why people see it as cheating. Either way the drama is fucking stupid like almost every other GD drama
@GPR_GD2 ай бұрын
wavix please stop lying 0:22
@luisf1234-gaming2 ай бұрын
Is that who I think it is?
@GPR_GD2 ай бұрын
@@luisf1234-gaming maybe…possibly
@Decen362 ай бұрын
1:59 another reason could be that cbf can be kinda buggy; in colons level ziplash and some others you can literally get stuck inside walls and also there was that whole double jump fiasco around a month ago.
@MasySlz2 ай бұрын
Well I had an interesting opinion until my browser crashed fucking got rid of everything I was saying >:( Anyways, dorami buffing the level slightly for cbf players is 100% justified so that all players are on the same difficulty level (handled infinitely better than nullscapes). I allows those who like the mod to still enjoy playing with it, but not gain an advantage with it.
@Necro-s2 ай бұрын
Wavix, I feel like at around 3:30 music is a bit too loud and makes the yapping a bit hard to distinguish. It could be just me but If anyone agrees with me on this then uhh idk reply
@thefunnydoge2 ай бұрын
How did Kiba think that putting a cbf blocker in a literal top 5 timing based type level with an arrogant message telling you to turn it off was a good idea? In what world?
@nocrushify274ca2 ай бұрын
because he wants to, duh =))))) its his lvl and u cant do anything about it
@thefunnydoge2 ай бұрын
@@nocrushify274ca It’s his level that people shit on cause of the cbf blocker
@GamingForeverEpic2 ай бұрын
@@nocrushify274cayeah but we can shit on him.
@nocrushify274ca2 ай бұрын
@@GamingForeverEpic i aint gonna do it even with or without CBF, i wont be able to beat that lvl so it doesn't really bothers me and also its his level, even if u shit on him it wont change anything lol
@p8geons2332 ай бұрын
GD players when they actually have to play the game legitimately:
@The-RealCosmic2 ай бұрын
I feel like this could have been avoided if ItzKiba made the alert more polite and made players aware of why they want the experience to be the same for everyone. Instead, we got "Turn CBF, loser", The drama isn't from the blocker in my eyes, it's the way it was put out into the world. But to be honest, I couldn't care less about CBF thing. I DO care about the whole "You can't play the level in practice mode". Like why can't I practice the level if I want, practicing is not cheating?
@fernando49592 ай бұрын
so real. If it just says cbf detected it would attract way less backlash. Still controversial but at least it doesn't (re)start with open insult also is anti-practice a thing? how?
@The-RealCosmic2 ай бұрын
@@fernando4959 If you practice it, you van only get to Nullscapes (Not Shardscapes) when a big saw kills you.
@zhiqiangchen62352 ай бұрын
@@The-RealCosmicthat happens in normal mode as well. There are bugs with it and some practice mode mods though
@nniftyyx2 ай бұрын
Wait, if CBF is cheating because not everyone has access to it, and the people without access to it are mostly mobile players, then why add a CBF blocker on a level a mobile player can't beat?
@VividlyNight2 ай бұрын
exactly bro, it’s so stupid
@f1d248Ай бұрын
its ridiculous that a mod that fixes the whole problem with different framerates that the game has had for 10 years is having surrounding controversy. Robtop has no reason not to implement it because it dissolves the barrier between every single player playing the game because everyone would have the same experience and just like other games the only area affected is your fps.
@fluno56522 ай бұрын
If this is what happens with Nullscapes then the Grief verification is gonna get more controversial than US politics
@averagejoe81672 ай бұрын
Majority of the people being vocal of their distain of the blocker aren’t even good enough to beat it in the first place. People just want any excuse to get mad/hate.
@usedtissue74892 ай бұрын
if kamala legalizes cbf i would absolutely vote for her ngl
@paolarei44182 ай бұрын
This isn't about politics, this is about GDolitics
@parali302 ай бұрын
Bros acting like more than 10 people have enough skill to beat nullscapes 😭
@emilski34532 ай бұрын
Honestly, until Robtop adds cbf into the game, cbf blockers are (imo) really valid. The level was verified without cbf, so it's fair that it is beaten without it too, if the creator wishes so. I think Kiba (especially looking at the previous nullscapes "hitbox controversy") just likes trolling people on twitter, and i must admit that it is quite funny seeing a whole fleet of 10 years old argue about it. Personally, I'm not a cbf opposer, I use it myself (not like it makes much difference on low-mid range extremes), but if the creator wishes to have it NOT used in his level, just let him do so, no "drama" is needed on it. Complaining about every single possible thing imaginable is just a characteristic of the GD community atp.
@GamingForeverEpic2 ай бұрын
If I verify a level on 3 fps, does that mean everyone else should have to play it on 3 fps as well? No? Of course not, because that’s stupid. Nobody should have to play the same way the verifier did, because it legitimately makes the game worse for some people. Mobile players can’t play like zoink did, so does that mean if a mobile player beats nullscapes, their record is invalid because they didn’t play it the same way zoink (the verifier) did?
@GamingForeverEpic2 ай бұрын
Also, just because he is justified in adding the cbf blocker, doesn’t mean he is exempt from any criticism on it or hate.
@squidsalotl2 ай бұрын
@@GamingForeverEpicIf a fair amount of the difficulty comes from you playing it on 3 fps, and that was the base fps the game ran on and not a modification, then, yes, everyone else should have to beat it on 3 fps too. Geometry Dash is not a game that natively runs on 3 fps, so your first point is just flawed to begin with. Also, no, that would not make the record invalid because I'm pretty sure that Kiba is not trying to force people beating the level the way Zoink did, he is trying to stop people from beating it with mods to the game. There is a very big difference between those.
@GamingForeverEpic2 ай бұрын
@@squidsalotl zoink doesn’t play the game entirely vanilla either.
@squidsalotl2 ай бұрын
@@GamingForeverEpic really? I didn't know that. Please elaborate.
@lessgenericname2 ай бұрын
glad to finally see a nuanced take on this
@Bingusrl2 ай бұрын
Bro you break down every possible argument on Twitter so well, making it easy to understand. Good job
@mainframe16082 ай бұрын
Its going to be real awkward if robtop adds his own click between frames and kiba has to beg zoink to reverify an update of the level without the cbf blocker
@zhiqiangchen62352 ай бұрын
No he won’t; removing a few triggers that does nothing without using cbf is not going to result in a reverification
@memesong212 ай бұрын
you know for a fact rob's version is going to be inferior in every way
@Lil_NoobieGMD2 ай бұрын
Ok guys THIS DRAMA needs to stop now, Im a ios player and have never used cbf before, I myself am neutral about this drama and if you use cbf fine by me if you dont also fine, We need to stop this pointless drama ASAP!!! PLEASE DONT SEND HATE TO ANYONE JUST DONT
@Sepi-chu_loves_moths2 ай бұрын
Isn't cbf on icreate now? Correct me if im wrong
@Mister_mic_microwave2 ай бұрын
@@Sepi-chu_loves_mothsI create costs money. Most of use don’t have money or don’t wanna spend it on gd (again)
@Sepi-chu_loves_moths2 ай бұрын
@@Mister_mic_microwave that is a shame yeah. still much better than having people spend thousands of moneys on a good pc to be able to play well (which is the only thing you could do if cbf was blocked), but not ideal
@Mister_mic_microwave2 ай бұрын
@@Sepi-chu_loves_moths well most people aren’t buying a pc just to get better at gd
@abiltyprepixelmonrehberler20262 ай бұрын
yes but iCreate cbf is more like Click on step, it makes precision like 120hz on 60hz ios devices@@Sepi-chu_loves_moths
@EvelynUwUwastaken2 ай бұрын
Kiba just seems obsessed with trying to prove that he’s morally superior to everyone else for some strange reason
@thepersonwhoasked94752 ай бұрын
6:55 it's too late we have the rating system
@JamoPreferably2 ай бұрын
You brought up a hilarious and also sad comparison about us politics and geometry dash, the dynamic is so similar its always a 2 sided argument
@saturnYTper2 ай бұрын
For me CBF is like fps bypass. Why do you consider it hacking? It's not like it beats the level for you and the mod is free so anyone can use it. It is especially useful on mobile with levels that lag a lot
@DreadCore_2 ай бұрын
Yeah but FPS bypass was to level the play field between people without 500 dollar monitors and 500 dollar monitors, CBF doesn't recreate any hardware-specific abilities.
@b-yl6kb2 ай бұрын
The top player community is a mess 💀💀
@srimattheuniverseshow2 ай бұрын
Gd community is a mess😊
@azul14582 ай бұрын
the thing about this is that people are complaining making it way worse than what it really is, they act like a cbf blocker will kill the level and stop people from playing it, which in fact might be true to a certain extent because how many people have beaten the top 10 list? the level gets famous, people will download the level and do a practice run and thats it look at tidal wave and see how many people have beaten it/doing progress compared to the number of downloads/likes the level has. At the end of the day, its your choice to use or not use cbf just like its the creators choice to put a cbf blocker in it
@aidyy102 ай бұрын
I absolutely love how this has become a meme at the same time as a controversy, people are photoshopping the CBF blocker message into random games and other stuff just like the Dash spider and Devil Vortex saws previously and I am all here for it
@captainb.mccrea54802 ай бұрын
Next we need a level that can only be completed while using CBF
@celestialwaffle14912 ай бұрын
Imo it's similar to Limbo blocking you from pausing. It's like the level is telling you to play by its rules. You have to beat it the cannon way. (Also no it's not different that this is a mod because it blocks people who have the extra tools some don't, instead of vise versa)
@gways59222 ай бұрын
The Clicks between friends controversy is CRAZY 🥶
@fernando49592 ай бұрын
that is not what F stands for
@JustanotherF32 ай бұрын
clicking between friends
@Cicksavant6 күн бұрын
C- Click B- Between F- Financial loss
@samuelefront9901Ай бұрын
I'll try to be respectful but definitely very critical. I play on a 60 Hz laptop which struggles to run even 100 FPS on some levels. In 2.1 I used 60 FPS and tps bypass which allowed me to play without much lag. Before 2.2 we thought that the physics would have been the same regardless of your fps so I thought I was going to be fine on 60 but as we all know that was not the case. In 2.2 in fact tps are locked but since your inputs are polled depending on your fps, 60 fps still feel like old 60 fps even on 240 tps. Even physics bypass doesn't do anything if you aren't able to match your tps with your fps. Great decision mr Rob! As a result I (and who knows how many others) got screwed. Cbf was quite literally a life saver. I don't think a better mod has ever been made for this game. So when kiba calls cbf users "losers" he is calling losers people who don't own a 2k dollars setup basically. I think the one to blame, rather than people who use cbf, is the one that despite 2.2 optimizations, despite 64 bits, despite everything still can't make his game run properly to save his life. I would also like to point out that my laptopt isn't even that bad, I have been able to run games with decent graphics without any trouble. Gd is quite literally the only thing I play that runs like dogshit. I couldn't care less if a programmer tells me that the expedients I have to take to loop around the flaws of his game are cheating. Fix the game and I won't use them anymore. If you aren't able to then hire someone who can with all the money you have made. Why in just a few months of Geode's existence people have made things that are better than what Rob has made in years? Why can't he just hire a team of developers? Why doesn't he just buy the rights of code that has existed for years and is bug free instead of making his own noclip for instance that breaks with slopes lmao? I don't get it. And no one talks about mobile players, for them cbf is even more important. Add cbf on mobile and in a few months we would see people beating Tartarus, guaranteed. Why do they have to play a significantly worse version of the game? About Kiba, looking at his 2 stars with extreme demon coins, I think he is that one guy with great social skills who makes jokes in public and then he is the only one who laughs at them.
@magicallizard6132 ай бұрын
1:51 PC players: better uninstall this game. Mobile players when ordering pc: DAD!!! CANCEL THE PC ORDER!!!
@princesslizzy9992 ай бұрын
Considering getting CBF after this video.
@tomascosta92372 ай бұрын
In my opinion the cbf blocker on nullscapes wasn't a bad idea. It was added because zoink had to verify the level without cbf, and he wanted the other players to go through what he went through to beat it and get a record on pointercrate. If you want your record on the demonlist beat it without cbf like zoink, if you don't care about your stats on pointercrate and like using cbf just beat it on a copyable without the cbf blocker. The blocker doesn't stop you from playing the level, it just determines if you care more about the demonlist record or about having fun. I'm not very active on twitter so I don't know much more about this drama, but the only problem I see with it are people complaining/arguing about it and being total dicks against whoever has a different opinion. To conclude, most of these dramas wouldn't happen if the community just behaved correctly, so if you want to say something negative towards someone do yourself a favor and stfu. (sorry for the long text)
@arthurnunes75592 ай бұрын
I think people are mad because of the arrogant message that kiba put in the level. Or not, idk idc
@HiYouHavePolio2 ай бұрын
people should just play levels they want because it's fun not for some virtual points
@fornax9852 ай бұрын
The demonlist allows cbf records
@tomascosta92372 ай бұрын
@@fornax985 but it probably won't allow cbf on lvls which have a cbf blocker
@JustanotherF32 ай бұрын
@@arthurnunes7559yeh I'm more annoyed about that
@EvelynUwUwastaken2 ай бұрын
The Yangire has also had a cbf blocker added to it and Bianox has stated that they want to add one to Xodiac as well
@xd3athclawx5542 ай бұрын
cbf actually stands for "Cant be fucked"
@TheIndispensableOpposition2 ай бұрын
actually so true I just love tacking on another 5k to my attempt count because a tiny fps lagspike happened when I get far
@sp_ce.2 ай бұрын
Doesn’t CBF make gameplay more accurate, have more freedom and also level the playing field and raise the skill cap without taking away from natural difficulty? If anyone disagrees please tell me cause I wanna know what you think are the downsides.
@p8geons2332 ай бұрын
It makes the game far easier than it was ever intended to be, its practically cheating with the level of precision that it allows
@KurumiRL2 ай бұрын
@@p8geons233I've used cbf on and off and it really does change nothing for me personally lol
@fornax9852 ай бұрын
Bugs sometimes happen but no other downsides
@a05polzar2 ай бұрын
I remember when I used it, I experienced some issues on levels with lots of moving objects. So I stopped using it for that reason, but I think it's better now. The levels are called Action by Lyal, EXHAUST, and Shrill Manor. Yeah, I know they are all Hard Demons, point and laugh. If I were to use CBF again, it would be for all levels. Not just the hard ones.
@sp_ce.2 ай бұрын
@@p8geons233 but doesn’t it make your clicks be able to be more precise. If your timing is right, should you not be rewarded for it? It’s easier but only because the difficulty was artificially inflated by frames, not because it makes you better at the game.
@TheRealGnarpGnarp2 ай бұрын
So people who cant even beat a level are getting mad about something that literally blocks something makes levels easier for victors?
@GamingForeverEpic2 ай бұрын
Cbf fixes a problem, yes, it makes levels easier, but it allows for lower fps players to play on a similar level to higher fps players.
@zhiqiangchen62352 ай бұрын
Click on steps
@Endju16732 ай бұрын
guess whosback is from without me, houdini just used the iconic bars as the intro
@Poqqers2 ай бұрын
why cant people just... use a copy without a cbf blocker?
@AzureBluGD2 ай бұрын
The only reason I'm against CBF is because it's a mod. It slightly changes the games' physics (Especially in platformers) and I don't understand why sayo devices and high refresh rate monitors aren't enough for people. (Take my opinion with a grain of salt because I'm a mobile player and I've never beaten anything above a hard demon)
@Suzifti2 ай бұрын
Because not everyone has sayo devices and corsar keyboards, high refresh rate monitors, or even a good PC for more than 60 fps."
@justaboringperson2 ай бұрын
on one end, the top players cant keep making their hardware better forever and gatekeeps anyone with slightly worse hardware from competing on the other end, players who have potato devices will actually be able to play the game
@queney2 ай бұрын
Just when I got a sayodevice and a 144Hz monitor, CBF was released
@NitroForever-e1hАй бұрын
The creator probably completely missed their goal because I and many others started using cbf only after seeing the blocker
@GPR_GDАй бұрын
lol that’s amazing
@baifor72 ай бұрын
3:49 nobody seems to understand this. it feels like half the discourse in this community is stunted by "they can do whatever they want they have the right" type arguments. its the ultimate thought terminating cliche and it plagues this game. usually it's because the people in question are actually doing something stupid and their defenders don't really wanna engage with the argument.
@oooこんにちは2 ай бұрын
Take plain chips, add your favorite instant ramen flavour, mix it and it will be amazing
@JarmezGD2 ай бұрын
I respect your fairly balanced take on this
@egfloggygoggy2 ай бұрын
The fact that pretty much all this is happening on gd twitter lmao, im gonna forever stay as far away as I can from that place
@astorakino8292 ай бұрын
The reason I could see some level needing CBF blocker is if your intention was to make a level of "X difficulty" - which you're allowed to do ; and you realise around the end of it that CBF kinda ruin the difficulty of some part then the blocker would be to keep the difficulty with possibly an incomming patch to take it into consideration What I do NOT agree with is being petty and an asshole about it - be respectful, that's like the easiest thing in the world
@the_real_skateboard2 ай бұрын
if robtop does not allow cbf then why did he originally allow players to go above 60fps to begin with it's literally the same effect, it makes the game smoother
@tntblast5002 ай бұрын
Because going above 60 was always possible in game? It's kinda hard to disallow something the game lets you do to begin with. Modifying how the game works however, is normally banned.
@fernando49592 ай бұрын
robtop never intended for players to go above 60 fps. the goddamn physics is tied to framerate. if the game uses some form of deltatime instead, there would never be a controversy surrounding monitor difference also, times changed, "originally" here is like 2013, nowadays I believe the game has a set 240 (?) fps to run so everyone has the same physics I agree that it's the same effect. It makes the game smoother, but also affecting the gameplay slightly
@tntblast5002 ай бұрын
@@fernando4959 Just going to say, while some of the physics inconsistencies between framerates can be blamed on poor implementation, "just use deltatime" is not the solution lol. Geometry dash has always had movement based on deltatime, otherwise running 120fps would mean the game runs twice as quickly.
@DreadCore_2 ай бұрын
Going high FPS was a thing the game let you do. With an expensive external monitor mind you, but it was a function of the vanilla game.
@theneverwatcher98602 ай бұрын
Thank you, Wavix, for shouting out smaller creators like Degenerocity ♥
@krissbm46112 күн бұрын
Oh boy, and this is just CBF. Imagine when Grief gets verified, I'll wait patiently my Wavix yapp sension 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Aiden_and_Co2 ай бұрын
ok hear me out........ robtop shouldnt add cbf to the actual game. And thats coming from someone who uses cbf. Here's why: The way it would be implemented would be weird. The game physics/refresh rate or whatever cbf changes would either have to change as a whole, or be an unlock-able in a shop (or a setting but that doesnt really make sense). I think that levels verified with cbf should be rated, but i dont think adding it to the game would be as simple as youre making it out to be.
@Suzifti2 ай бұрын
1. Setting or an item in a shop are good ideas 2. Without CBF, Tidal Wave will likely remain at the top in 20 years as well 3. No, CBF still hasn't been added to the game. I think RobTop should just rate levels if they have one victor without CBF.
@Aiden_and_Co2 ай бұрын
@@Suzifti 1. no, i dont wanna have to grind for that as a feature. 2. you underestimate the community 3. I agree with everything in three
@neoncat68202 ай бұрын
0:51 honestly I wish this mod got more popularity. Most people praise CBF because it "levels the playing field" but in reality a lot of people are using it just to make levels even easier. This mod on the other hand ACTUALLY levels the playing field, making your inputs the same as if you had a fast PC, but not any better if you already do. I think if this mod got more attention, the CBF controversy would be a lot less.
@RandomC222 ай бұрын
Can't wait for 2.207 with some weird changes that makes the CBF blocker trigger by default making a level with it literally impossible
@RealRoid2 ай бұрын
Ah yes finally a sequel to my beloved 2017 fps bypass drama time goes, but people don't get smarter
@fatnerd99852 ай бұрын
I think the problem with CBF (i personally like it, i use it) is that polling rate is different on different devices. More expensive devices still have higher polling rates than cheaper ones. So it's still a gear advantage, but so is a high refresh rate monitor. Rob's not gonna completely lock the game to 60fps because some people don't have monitors above 60hz. But in his case I guess he has to set the baseline for the game, so CBF being an uneven experience on different devices may or may not be a bad thing, to him at least. Personally I would add it though because it still does make it easier for everyone, just to varying degress.
@dapcuber72252 ай бұрын
2:41 "unnecessarily hostile" dude it says "loser". its obviously humorous how did you manage to twist the intention so badly 😭
@nut311amanАй бұрын
A insult is still an insult, regardless of intent
@Selicular2 ай бұрын
Nice video, but I'm not voting Kamala. I don't even live in the US.
@wavix2 ай бұрын
not living in america is low key a w💀
@NormalHealerАй бұрын
If you want my honest opinion I don't think Nullscapes shouldn't have even been rated
@Oronaps2 ай бұрын
I think CBF is fine as long as you clarify that you're using it. It you see someone that is not trying to hide that they're using the mod, stop downplaying their accomplishments by calling it cheating and go do something actually worth your time.
I agree that it helps Kiba prove the verification wasn't done on cbf (for Robtop), but a better long term solution would be a watermark instead of the complete block like the framerate based one on Final Fantasy by icedcave
@KurumiRL2 ай бұрын
Maybe like something at the completion screen that would say you used cbf.
@vitex1982 ай бұрын
imo just don't be an asshole about whatever opinion you have I know that's not really a proactive stance to take but it keeps me both informed and sane
@gold3nappl32 ай бұрын
I’m not gonna lie, this drama is the funniest thing to come from the community in a long time, and I hope we get more like it because it’s very entertaining watching a bunch of kids argue about the cbf blocker in nullscapes recent comment section
@zander122 ай бұрын
Every time I'm gone from the community for a while and I come back, there's some new drama happening. This community really cannot just enjoy the game without something controversial happening, lmao.
@FizzyFanta2 ай бұрын
i've used some form of responsivity enhancing tool since 2016 back when your only option was mgostIH's sketchy framerate program, and i've never understood people's problems. the whole philosophy of this game is to push the human limit as much as possible, so why are people opposed to programs/mods that make the game more accurate to the inputs? i really do think that in a game and community that's dedicated to the human limit, things that reduce the non-human impact should be celebrated
@ShortNinjaa2 ай бұрын
welcome back to edition #359 of gd players having a mental breakdown about a level 99% of them aren’t good enough to attempt anyway
@Armarilloo2 ай бұрын
Can we not have CBF drama for once?
@k3so2 ай бұрын
i like cbf, but if it's not in the base game, it's cheating, all levels should be possible without cbf. I'd like robtop to put it in the game, benefits everyone, it would finally end the drama.
@GamingForeverEpic2 ай бұрын
Are you saying using any mods is cheating?
@k3so2 ай бұрын
@@GamingForeverEpic only mods that modify the gameplay
@jrirch20892 ай бұрын
I agree that cbf is a cheat, but doesn’t mean it’s a bad one
@xX_Overweight_XxАй бұрын
Instead of a message when CBF detected it should bring you to a evil jerker cart secret room
@firebro742 ай бұрын
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if newer list levels have cbf blockers just for the hell of it, either because the creator is against it or just because they want to make people mad. The ladder seems like something that would happen in the future ngl lol
@Pasacts1732 ай бұрын
What if CBF got modified by the original creator to work on IOS? Would that make RobTop change his mind about rating levels with CBF? That could be a topic possibly.
@monstergamer54672 ай бұрын
cbf is already on ios, it is limited by input polling rate however so it is still has much less of an effect than on pc
@dinoscythe63352 ай бұрын
Thank you for informing me about this drama some more 👍
@nobodysever29492 ай бұрын
I always compare CBF to the 60hz vs 144hz thing. 144hz have a HUGE advantage, but no one complains about it. But when people use CBF there’s a problem, even tho in essence it’s like a monitor with more frames. Another point I’d like to make is with MegaHack. If you have a low hertz monitor, you can set the TPS higher which makes it act like a higher hertz monitor without adding any frames. It literally lets you click between frames. And there’s no limit to how high you can set the TPS. But no one complains about that either.
@deleted-something2 ай бұрын
This is the same stupid shit as when creators ban click patterns (like when mfs put invisible walls when you don’t click in the green orbs (half of the time they don’t work)) is just more important cuz we are talking to top players Is it a cheat btw fuck anyone who says that is not cheating until robtop adds it once and for all
@SSuser-go7jm2 ай бұрын
It’s equally as much of a cheat as fps bypass of before 2.2. That was allowed, I don’t see why this shouldn’t be for allowing people with worse computer hardware to compete.
@deleted-something2 ай бұрын
@@SSuser-go7jm yeah? Still a cheat, is it a good a cheat, yes, I personally have use cbf, and robtop should add it asap so people stop having drama over it, but that doesn’t not make it a cheat lol
@ukulelebottom2 ай бұрын
omg itzkiba on an alt insulting people with different opinions how cool!111!, I agree that cbf is cheating, but your hostility just shows a lot about your personality, more than you know.
@wavix2 ай бұрын
the point isn’t whether it’s cheating or not, the point should be that adding it to the game is a good idea and that fucking around on twitter insulting people is cringe
@deleted-something2 ай бұрын
@@wavix real af take
@Zegiomio2 ай бұрын
i was originally anti CBF but than i remembered that we allowed fps bypass and any argument on my end just vanished
@Zotato7772 ай бұрын
Robtop didnt consider fps bypass cheating, but he consider CBF cheating. Big difference
@Turtleblade2 ай бұрын
I'm not anti cbf because I personally use it but I also thought that the fps bypass argument would work but it doesn't because fps bypass was allowed because people found a hardware work around to make it work while cbf is a software mod so it kind of doesn't work
@GamingForeverEpic2 ай бұрын
@@pompaczisn’t that technically patching an existing problem? Shouldn’t it be good that we can get far higher precision that we normally could? This is just the fps bypass argument all over again.
@fornax9852 ай бұрын
Zero fucks given about robtops opinion
@ColeKern-l3d2 ай бұрын
i think that it should be allowed, because it helps raise the difficulty ceiling, and that means more insane and absurdly hard levels, which, in my eyes, makes it more fun.
@imarandomperson7612 ай бұрын
Finally I'm not the only one noticing the similarities between GD controversies and political arguments on Twitter
@exiled_shadegd2 ай бұрын
A lot of people have. Coincidentally, it feels like it became like this when Elon Musk took over
@imarandomperson7612 ай бұрын
@@exiled_shadegd Twitter breeds this kind of behavior and especially since Elon took over, so I'm not surprised
@LvkeNineT84 сағат бұрын
90% of people on twitter: i do not abide to the DBADITCS Foundation
@sharksurcool2 ай бұрын
I want Grief to get rated but I'm afraid it won't until a non CBF player steps in
@Thesoulofpros2 ай бұрын
I can see both sides. On one hand, Robtop doesn't rate levels that use CBF. On the other hand, Kiba could've just left it on, and Zoink could have verified it using no CBF. But on the other other hand, this community just makes big deals out of small things for the sake of controversy.
@carrotyspice95502 ай бұрын
I love how people didn't complain when some people implemented blockers for fps higher than 60 but then we get this and people are going nuts. I personally think this situation is pretty much identicle to the high refresh rate stuff, because not all players have access to it, and it provides a noticeable advantage. I think that since the mod literally makes the game slightly easier by improving accuracy, cbf should not be allowed on the demonlist. Though, if rob added it to the game that would be amazing. I use the mod myself only because it's allowed on the demonlist. I feel slightly guilty about it though, because to me it feels like I'm taking advantage of the fact that there isn't a rule against it. I also kinda see where people on the other side of the argument are coming from, but we all have our own opinions, so nobody will ever come to a consensus until rob adds it to the base game.
@Thenoname3482 ай бұрын
Honestly i dont use CBF because when GD updated to 2.206 and couldnt use geode for a time my skill just Dissapeared, it felt awful straight flying and just not being able