Tom Wolfe on why Darwin's evolution theory is a "myth"

Tom Wolfe is out with his first nonfiction book in more than 15 years. "The Kingdom of Speech" is a bold argument about language and human evolution, seeking to challenge our understanding of Darwinism. Jeff Glor spoke to the provocative writer in New York.

[@paulmoffat9306]

Tom Wolfe passed away - he can now debate with Darwin directly.

[@christopherparks4342]

Paul Moffat the only thing they can do is decompose

[@tauqeerhussain4057]

If both of them go to heaven

[@generalviewer8347]

what makes you think darwin amd tom are both in heaven

[@Mirghanii]

@@tauqeerhussain4057 to be more practical Darwin by definition didn't believe in Heaven.

[@Mirghanii]

@@976_evils how ?

[@jerrytang8684]

"It is dangerous to say that Darwinism and evolution are a myth." Is that a threat? Threat coming from whom?

[@mr-_z6909]

A threat face to face how could he continue talking about his point?

[@superduperjoi6800]

How can you threaten an 85 year old

[@mylucidadventures6540]

(EDIT: Sorry I missed the some might say dangerous but still don't misquote people you left the bold part entirly out of the quote.)

[@jbirdzz]

The threat of ignorance.

[@raya6228]

The threat of evil

[@maximus78028]

It’s dangerous to challenge Darwin, why? If we can’t challenge how can we learn?

[@kurshtivk8876]

Darwin's theory is a myth

[@limitedquantitysufiyyahexp3913]

@@kurshtivk8876 yes

[@user-wp9uo3bp7n]

Try challenging Copernicus

[@celinesleiman6001]

DO you have a tail?

[@laserfan17]

@@kurshtivk8876 Nope, not a myth, a scientific theory that still holds true to this day.

[@bonez_206]

Before we even hear the man speak they undermined him... make fun of his outfit call him dangerous is anyone else following along? I feel the bias is evident and I didn't even get past the first minute

[@fjjchj9074]

It was a selling point and the highlight of this vid

[@DonutWarLord]

People like this shouldn’t be allowed a voice and should be cast away in a progressive society. He contributes nothing.

[@yamiyo6050]

Please repent and turn to GOD I love you

[@seneca991]

@@DonutWarLord yep, you would make a perfect low tier bureaucrat in the governments of such countries as N.Korea, China, Iran. Why don't you send them your resume?

[@caustixsoda8125]

@@DonutWarLord ah... how the fascism excels!

[@kvogel9245]

Something tells me that in order to understand what he's trying to say, you'd have to read the book, not rely on a stupid CBS interview.

[@RS-vd2dw]

Same here

[@Aj-nv7wh]

something tells me he wrote exactly what he said in the video over and over in the book with random unrelated facts trying to disprove evolution.

[@cthru22]

As soon as corporate controlled news gets on a story, the intellectual level slips down to elementary school.

[@poops8149]

suck it atheists guess y’all don’t have any purpose in life 😏

[@jacksonfinkjr.5014]

Please! Teach me Somethingism!

[@TheVCRTimeMachine]

It's never dangerous to challenge anyone's beliefs. Darwin, Chomsky, Dawkins, even Tom Wolfe.

[@machtnichtsseimann]

Agree, although cultists have a hard time with that, whether they are found in Religion, Science, Politics, the Arts.

[@laserfan17]

That’s false, just ask anyone who challenges the beliefs of the majority in countries with state religions like most Islamic Countries, they’ll tell you how safe it is to go against those beliefs. Darwin’s discoveries are not beliefs though, they’re scientific facts.

[@stephenfletcher5391]

It's dangerous to live and think, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do it.

[@BibleResearchTools]

laserfan17 wrote, "Darwin’s discoveries are not beliefs though, they’re scientific facts." Evolution is based solely on elaborate just-so stories, beginning with Darwin's overextrapolation of observable science (breeding, variation, adaptation, and speciation) into unobservable "common ancestry," for which there is not a shred of evidence. Evolutionists hide that fact by smothering us with examples of observable changes within species, which no scientist disputes, and then claiming they prove one type of species can "morph" over time into another type, which is abject nonsense. It recently got much worse for the devout evolutionist. Modern genetic research has shown it is virtually impossible for humans to have evolved from another type of animal, such as a Simian ape. Three separate research papers -- one by intelligent-designers (IDers), and two by evolutionists (who were trying to dispute the research of the IDers) -- have shown that under the most favorable conditions it would take about 25 million years for a single, coordinated pair of mutations to occur in humans (Michael Lynch, 2005.) Two other evolutionist researchers determined it would take over 100 million years (Durrett and Schmidt, 2008.) To put that into perspective, humans and chimpanzees have hundreds of millions of base-pair differences. It got worse. Eric Davidson, who spent much of his career studying the developmental gene regulatory network (the dGRN,) determined that embryos develop only one way, and that any changes (e.g., mutations) that affect the early stages of cell division (before the body plan is determined) are almost always catastrophic. It got worse. The 2012 report of the government-sponsored Human Genome Project (ENCODE) determined that about 80% of the human DNA is functional, negating the claims by evolutionists that the non-coding DNA (about 98-99% of the genome) is "junk" and is evolvable. By 2018, the functional portion had increased to greater than 95%, which, for all practical purposes, points to the entire genome being evolutionarily constrained, or non-evolvable. The fossil record is also no help. The fossil record shows abrupt appearance of species followed by stasis (no evolutionary change,) and disparity before diversity. The latter is devastating to evolutionary theory since it turns the so-called "tree of life" upside down. All major phyla that exists today appeared abruptly and early in the geologic column. Darwin predicted the opposite: that one or a few simple organisms would gradually evolve into more complex ones. Dan

[@mr.nobody9955]

@@BibleResearchTools in the second line did you mean to write “They're scientific theories”? Or you meant what you wrote.

[@alnotbiggaytho7124]

"Wicked language" like bro you attack him before he starts talking.

[@Gerwulf97]

"Dangerous", if ideas are dangerous to you, grow a pair

[@Lezeik1]

Germany had an idea once. 80.000.000 people died.

[@Gerwulf97]

@@Lezeik1 lol.

[@kamandi1362]

@@Lezeik1 Yes, the idea was a form of social Darwinism.

[@MegaBanne]

@@kamandi1362 It was not a form of social darwinism and social darwinism hade nothing to do with actual darwinism.

[@pik9815]

“Dangerous ideas” and misinformation are used interchangeably.... misinformation is definitely both dangerous and harmful to society

[@ShereenNanish]

Not professional of the interviewer to say "dangerous"

[@SadamYT]

"The problem with evolution is that you have to wait uh... 6-7 million years... uh.... it's hard to recall...." Tom Wolfe.

[@75marklee]

SadamYT evolution needs way longer than that to get anything done LMAO

[@jarjarbanks452]

Is he commander Wolfe brother of star wars lol jk

[@victorhoops007]

Evolution is literally so bs

[@jonathanschaffer2594]

Victor Faria why?

[@75marklee]

@Pudding microevolution if u want to call it that lmao a billion years from now i will wager its still gonna b bacteria maybe by then though it will sprout some wings and b flying bacteria that has eyes

[@flimsyjimnz]

“I myself am convinced that the theory of evolution, especially the extent to which it has been applied, will be one of the greatest jokes in the history books of the future." *Malcolm Muggeridge*

[@huskiehuskerson5300]

so untrue 😆

[@jesuslovesyou1921]

Evolution is an assumption. Not a fact. So true bro

[@BudDougherty]

I believe this is true. Well said quote.

[@BudDougherty]

@Chad Harris God replaced it with "gods" already. Men are weak mortals; either way.

[@BudDougherty]

@Chad Harris Prove it

[@PassingWayfarer]

"It's dangerous to say evolution is myth" oof atheism is in danger.

[@insciencewetrust1183]

@Mim ಠ_ಠ Evolution is not an atheistic idea it’s a scientific theory. So nobody is in danger.

[@Vlad-ri8hb]

Can you explain why atheism is in danger and guess what evolution is not a atheistic idea it is a scientific theory which many atheist believe in

[@MRakshay-fb2mu]

@@insciencewetrust1183 But atheist love to use it as sheild against God existence.

[@guidohaverkort5782]

@@MRakshay-fb2mu that doesnt really disprove it tho does it

[@Odinsson90]

@@Vlad-ri8hb As an atheist I don't believe in evolution, I understand evolution.. I agree with everything else you said but evolution is not something you believe, it's either you understand evolution or you don't..

[@stevenbudlong1893]

Watching a four-minute news clip is not the same as reading the book. I just finished "The Kingdom of Speech" and find the comments below reek of contempt prior to investigation.

[@snipeg4mer693]

A book can be clearly seen by its cover so no need to read it

[@TheVVumpus]

Snipe G4mer Condemnation before investigation is the height of ignorance. Good jerb moran.

[@DinosaurNick]

@@snipeg4mer693 have you not heard "never judge a book by its cover"? if one looked at say Harry Potter and the sorcerer's stone's cover ... would one be able to tell you what it was about without ever reading it?

[@haitamc5611]

@@TheVVumpus I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

[@akeelbrown7675]

Well the theory of Evolution is entirely based off of less than 1% of all known species throughout history. And that less than 1% of evidence alone is heavily debated even by believers of the theory. So its not as blasphemous as all these morons in the comment section think it is to question the theory all together.

[@CreepAM]

Talked about his suit way too much. The way they talk to him and about him is very belittling

[@DonswatchingtheTube]

1:52 It is bold and dangerous to call Darwinism a myth. Why?

[@DonswatchingtheTube]

@Ricahrd P'Brien What has your response got to do with what I posted?

[@DonswatchingtheTube]

@Ricahrd P'Brien What is a cell? Cells are the basic building blocks of all living things. The human body is composed of trillions of cells. They provide structure for the body, take in nutrients from food, convert those nutrients into energy, and carry out specialized functions. Cells also contain the body’s hereditary material and can make copies of themselves. Cells have many parts, each with a different function. Some of these parts, called organelles, are specialized structures that perform certain tasks within the cell. Human cells contain the following major parts, listed in alphabetical order: Cytoplasm Within cells, the cytoplasm is made up of a jelly-like fluid (called the cytosol) and other structures that surround the nucleus. Cytoskeleton The cytoskeleton is a network of long fibers that make up the cell’s structural framework. The cytoskeleton has several critical functions, including determining cell shape, participating in cell division, and allowing cells to move. It also provides a track-like system that directs the movement of organelles and other substances within cells. Endoplasmic reticulum (ER) This organelle helps process molecules created by the cell. The endoplasmic reticulum also transports these molecules to their specific destinations either inside or outside the cell. Golgi apparatus The Golgi apparatus packages molecules processed by the endoplasmic reticulum to be transported out of the cell. Lysosomes and peroxisomes These organelles are the recycling center of the cell. They digest foreign bacteria that invade the cell, rid the cell of toxic substances, and recycle worn-out cell components. Mitochondria Mitochondria are complex organelles that convert energy from food into a form that the cell can use. They have their own genetic material, separate from the DNA in the nucleus, and can make copies of themselves. Nucleus The nucleus serves as the cell’s command center, sending directions to the cell to grow, mature, divide, or die. It also houses DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid), the cell’s hereditary material. The nucleus is surrounded by a membrane called the nuclear envelope, which protects the DNA and separates the nucleus from the rest of the cell. Plasma membrane The plasma membrane is the outer lining of the cell. It separates the cell from its environment and allows materials to enter and leave the cell. Ribosomes Ribosomes are organelles that process the cell’s genetic instructions to create proteins. These organelles can float freely in the cytoplasm or be connected to the endoplasmic reticulum (see above). The human body is composed of trillions of cells. These replicate then die throughout our lifetime. Which one of the trillions do you think has caused you to change from one creature to another?

[@torotanaka3788]

Uh, reproductive cells (sperm and eggs)?

[@sremmlyphe8064]

DonswatchingtheTube there are a couple important terms you’ve forgot to research about Research about DNAs, RNAs and MUTATIONS and you’ll have some answers

[@yub2.045]

Ricahrd P'Brien Ha, "directly observed" No human has ever observed macro (not micro) evolution, giraffes were always giraffes, not cows; there's a big gap there which evolutionism couldn't fill

[@superduperjoi6800]

They interviewed the legend TOM WOOLF and only talk about his suit

[@Dark_Ukiyo]

superduperjoi yep

[@elisewood5050]

Now I want to read his book and others he's written, hope he gets out his commentary on PC culture.

[@noway1343]

I think you're cute. Him. Facebook Germain St. Johnson❤

[@noway1343]

**Hit me up

[@marenvanwesenbeeck4972]

You call him a legend but he’s not even close to that. I feel sorry for charles and any other real scientist in the world

[@ridovercascade4551]

Wtf it was just 20 seconds about myth of evolution and 4 minutes not related to subject.

[@TKO67]

that's how the networks make their money.

[@machtnichtsseimann]

If you prefer comfort, control, conclusions, over truth, then questioning your beliefs is dangerous.

[@khaoulaelbatti264]

Evolution is not truth

[@hariikrishnan]

What a joke Speech and memory are both found in animals too, how do u think a dog remembers the smell of his owner he surely doesn't write it down.

[@TKO67]

Very bad logic. He was talking about speech not smell

[@vinayak90417]

Interviewer said " it's dangerous to have a scientific disagreement " if so then what is the difference between science and religion!!?????🤷‍♂️🤣

[@sreehariksays]

ഇതെന്താ മലയാള മാസവോ?😂

[@NessunDorman]

Glor is out of his gord saying it's "dangerous" to say evolution is a myth. It may be incorrect, but dangerous is a draconian choice of words.

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

Evolution is the narrative. Whether it's real or not is irrelevant, when the established narrative is challenged, it's a direct threat to those who have built themselves upon it, so it's considered dangerous to challenge it. Always remember, it always returns to politics in the end, and politics don't care if you favor religion or science, it will find a way to use either of them to achieve it's goals.

[@yub2.045]

DrewPicklesTheDark True, but I'm sad science lost it's objectivity. People who affiliate themselves with science usual call themselves atheists, to the point that science has become synonymous to atheism! It has nothing to do with whether God exists or not, but in our society it looks that way such that it now forms a barrier: either you're a religious fundamentalist against Darwinism or hardcore Darwinist atheist Where are the objective scientists, whether believers in God or not???

[@wachyfanning]

I think it's just as dangerous as calling gravity a myth. They're both demonstrable theories which align with absolutely all evidence, predict things frequently, and explain things which nothing else can. It represents the absolute poison of religion.

[@normankelley]

Pretty superficial. One would have though they CBS would have sent one of the journalist with a a scientific background to interview him. Instead, they merely talked about his clothes.

[@yub2.045]

Ikr, and threatened him "What you're saying is dangerous." So unprofessional

[@kotaykcanary6020]

Can someone explain how it's "DANGEROUS"? hahah btw I'm reading the book right now and I love it so far. Tom Wolfe is thoroughly titillating as usual

[@quintonkirk285]

The apocalypse just stands for an unveiling of what was unknown...When we find out we've been lied to by science governments and other people in power and we find out the truth about our nature our planet and how we were created it will cause total chaos. Which is dangerous? I guess. I didn't really understand that comment either but theres something to think about

[@kotaykcanary6020]

@@quintonkirk285 No yeah I like your comment, but it seems like Darwin caused a lot of danger already. Massive amounts of atheism and racism sprung out of Evolution. I'm not saying evolution is invalid but it's undeniable that figures like Hitler were able to justify their beliefs of a master race based on Darwin, Freud and Nietzsche's pop sciences. Wolfe explains it a bit better in a speech he gives to Brown in the 90's. Also E Michael Jones, if you ignore all his Jew hate, has some really interesting things to say about the taking down of Christian/western culture by the aforementioned forces.

[@quintonkirk285]

@@kotaykcanary6020 well put, couldn't agree more

[@Whitewing89]

It's dangerous because it's a bunch of unscientific nonsense and seeds doubt in the process that cured malaria, eradicated smallpox built the phone or P.C. you watched this video on and instead promotes religion, the thing that retards progress, burns books of knowledge and when given rule over law always violate human rights. Almost every group that came to the American colonies did so do escape religious persecution.

[@Whitewing89]

@@kotaykcanary6020 evolution has nothing to do with atheism or racism. Most "evolutionist" are christian and from the standpoint of evolution there are no human races. You could maybe argue for eugenics. The actual science says Europeans have the most Neanderthal DNA making us less human than africans meanwhile there are no real markers genetically for different races with no hard boundaries between them. Race is almost exclusively a cultural phenomenon. There is a much stronger argument to be made for the dangers of religion as much bloodshed is motivated or justified over religious differences. Every time religion gets rule over law it inevitable results in a violation of human rights. Christianity is no exception with it's long history of persecution between denominations. Hitler, Stalin, etc where all anti Darwin to if memory serves.

[@elizabethcommons8946]

Kent Hovind says this every day

[@darkbozo11]

just one of the many reasons why is has been locked up and considered a con artist

[@suushii90]

Kent Hovind is a buffon

[@constantdoodle32]

Hugh Ross is pretty cool

[@potentpotables5468]

@@darkbozo11 .....he was locked up because he is a con artist.....

[@potentpotables5468]

Hovinduism rots the mind.

[@stingray6737]

DNA already prove we are different

[@aarohgokhale8832]

@@the_Relentless_Few 😁

[@kayejaye7508]

NONSENSE. It is impossible to find reliable data comparing the human genome to ANY animal genome. The principal reason is that no other animals have had their full genome sequenced. Even those that have had them partly sequenced cannot be easily compared in terms of percentages because the genomic length and chromosomal division vary massively from one species to another.

[@Nasirsmart110]

@@aarohgokhale8832 we share 98 % DNA with Rats. Ah so that Explains we were Apes at first then we became Rats then from that to Humans.

[@zachvance1704]

@@aarohgokhale8832 That's a lie made up be evolution "scientists" 15-20 years Darwin wrote "On the Origin of Species".

[@lionheart796]

Just take acid and you'll see that every thing is connected.

[@johnnowakowski4062]

It's "dangerous" to challenge evolution...

[@punkydoodle9899]

No it isn't. You can disbelieve evolution and it won't hurt you in any way. Actually, it is the science nerds who are socially inept and tend to be dull and boring people. You can believe in flat Earth and most people just won't care.

[@linkthepig4219]

It's stupid to challenge evolution

[@luigimario4458]

@@linkthepig4219 no it's actually the process of challenging ideas like the one about evolution that propells science. Evolution only withstood the test of time and gets proven to be right time and time, fossil by fossil again. There is no problem of challenging it.

[@linkthepig4219]

@@luigimario4458 By challenge I don't mean thinking of other perspectives about science or coming up with explanations that may contradict certain ideas, I mean completely denying evolution. It takes basic understanding of life to understand evolution and most people who deny it simply don't fully understand it.

[@luigimario4458]

@@linkthepig4219 accepted and understood.

[@cb4canes]

Exactly. Throughout history we have falsely believed “but NOW we have it aaallll figured out” when we clearly don’t. But don’t challenge any ideas, nooo that’d be dAnGeRoUs

[@mism847]

We can never be absolutely certain about the vast majority of things, but we can be extremely certain with many things, just like we are with the theory of evolution being correct.

[@guilhermecastro9893]

we do have it majorly figured out....darwins the origin of species delegates in creeping accuracy why and how the changes on genetics cause speciation and those keep going till today darwins predictions on evolution are right even today

[@venglomarci]

Evolution is proven to be real.

[@leroyvermilion7708]

@@venglomarci Not really is a theory... Just like the big bang theory...

[@solaris4022]

@@leroyvermilion7708 You don't know what scientific theory means then do you? Scientific theory: A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world and universe that can be repeatedly tested and verified in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results. Evolution and the Big Bang are both scientific theories.

[@ericmago4110]

My eyes are bleeding from all the ignorance in this comment section.

[@qusaia6962]

Eric Nielsen then leave dude why are you commenting,smh .

[@ericmago4110]

qusai al halabi I wanted to highlight the ignorance of people who don’t accept Evolution as fact, because it is absolutely ludicrous. I’ll say it again, it is absolutely ludicrous. The ammount if evidence that we have supporting Evolution is undeniable and is irrefutable. To say that Evolution is wrong is like saying the Earth is flat. All the evidence is there, multiple scientific methods support it, yet people’s ignorance gets the better of them.

[@godisamazing8237]

@@ericmago4110 Dna is proof of God not evolution

[@jfkonlsd1364]

@@ericmago4110 its not on the level of knowing the earth is round. you'll have to observe an animal in real time evolve. adaptation is not evolution btw

[@ericmago4110]

JFK on LSD We can observe bacteria evolving in real time. Animals though? That won’t happen because it takes hundreds, thousands years to see noticable change. Adaptation is EXACTLY what Evolution is. Adapting yourself to the environment to better suit it for survival purposes. Again, soooo much evidence supporting Evolution. If you deny Evolution in a highly developed country with a great educational system like Denmark (where I live) you would be 1. laughed at 2. laughed hysterically at 3. get called stupid 4. be sent to the insane asylum (for free because of our free health care). It’s only in less developed countries and in highly religious countries like the US where people still do not accept Evolution as fact. North Western Europe is faaaar past that stage.

[@Nope-sj7es]

A lot of people here seem to think that evolution is meant to explain how life itself came into existence, the evolution theory does nothing of the sort Evolution merely explains how life has change over the course of history to adapt and make better use of its environment Also why are so many people saying evolution has anything to do with disproving god or believing that the universe came into existence through nothing? Being an evolutionist does not mean you cannot believe in god or that he created the universe

[@catgames2290]

Ok just quick why today apes didn't evolve ? Since we evolved from apes ?

[@grantchapman640]

Cat Games first of all, we didn’t evolve from apes. Both us and apes evolved from a common ancestor. Secondly, they are evolving. Every species on earth is evolving. We just don’t notice it in our lifespans because it takes hundreds or even thousands of generations for it to become obvious.

[@yub2.045]

God could've created us through evolution, that's possible. The problem is when atheists counterattack anti-Darwinists on grounds that "You're a religious person who believes the world was created in 6 days, don't talk" Like what? It has nothing to do with whether God exists or not, why do you atheists call religious people "crazy for not questioning their faith" when you're not questioning yours? And when someone criticizes your theory, you just deflect it with "you're a religionist" I miss objective science, where atheist and creationist scientists tried together to understand the world question every theory

[@Odinsson90]

@@yub2.045 Evolution is a fact, why would you question something that is proven fact? One can only question unproven claims like God exists..

[@brianmi40]

@@yub2.045 - "I miss objective science, where atheist and creationist scientists tried together to understand the world question every theory" WHO says that isn't happening? tons of scientific articles are published annually by atheist and creationist scientists collaborating. REMEMBER: KZbin COMMENTERS are NOT SCIENTISTS, right? "God could've created us through evolution, that's possible." YUP, sure is. Now it just has to be proven. Problem is, the scientific method has rigid standards and rules to uphold the validity of findings: 1) All HYPOTHESES *MUST* be falsifiable. That means, it MUST be possible to DISPROVE the hypothesis. What GOOD is one, if we can't PROVE it's FALSE or NOT TRUE? Science is about searching for ANSWERS, not about proposing IMPOSSIBLE QUESTIONS TO ANSWER. 2) "God" is UN-FALSIFIABLE: how COULD you prove that "god doesn't exist", couldn't he be sitting under an Apple tree, half-way across the visible universe where we could never go look for him? 3) God has "no explanatory powers" - i.e. God is a MYSTERY, what is the benefit of answering a question, with a MYSTERY? 4) therefore "God" can NEVER be part of any scientific hypothesis BY DEFINITION. 5) Evolutionary Theory has NO unexplained contradictions or gaps that suggest it is not valid and sound as the reason for the diversity of life on this planet. i.e. no "God" is required to "make it work OK". It stands alone, and works just fine. 6) Science LIVES by questioning. Nothing is sacred. HOWEVER, poorly conceived or flawed arguments are quickly DISMISSED. Why should we waste time on them? Once we KNOW 2+2=4, who is willing to waste the time on someone arguing it equals 5?

[@graemebell3467]

He realized that convincing people of something else is easier than disproving another, simple.

[@MrCool144]

Your masters convinced you that you are a monkey and then they trained you to attack those who know they are not. Simple.

[@TJ-oo5mx]

1:52 selling replay buttons

[@babyhercules9875]

Personally I dont think science should bully everything else into science, in truth it is all theory

[@osamab814]

Agreed

[@eddyeldridge7427]

"Personally I dont think science should bully everything else into science" If presenting facts is "bullying," you're skin is simply too thin to actually exist. "in truth it is all theory" Only if you ignore laws and hypotheses, and such.

[@user-ud5dx9zg9c]

@@eddyeldridge7427 it is though its was charles darwins theory and although science has been a part of our lives we still dont know if we can prove to see if we evolved or not has a lot of thinking and dna resoursment put together so we actually dont know.

[@eddyeldridge7427]

Do you want to try that again, hold the word salad?

[@user-ud5dx9zg9c]

@@eddyeldridge7427 ?

[@FahadSheraidah]

The fact that we are having this conversation in the 21 century is quite worrying.

[@allisonjuno7654]

Fahad S ikr they say that we believe in fairytales then cite the Bible as a source

[@carlpen850]

@ Fahad S... my thoughts exactly

[@asto7795]

OK, we defs come from nothing and stardust

[@asto7795]

@Richard Fox whatever buddy

[@malchir4036]

@Jake the Astronaut "And what about the energy that was used for the "big bang"," You're thinking of energy as a plus, when instead energy is both plus and minus. Or in other words, negative energy. The total sum of energy is still 0. All that's needed is quantum vacuum potential. "in Genesis God created everything" Except god himself apparantly. Apparantly this nothing also allows for actions, requiring time, hence it isn't a philosophical nothing, so what is it then? Meanwhile, unlike primitives, we understand time is relative and requires space. Therefore you god is located in spacetime that also not spacetime as it is supposed to be nothing. Or in laymen terms: including a maximum only brings problems, it doesn't solve anything. "therefore the only thing that could resolve that stalemate would be to take a leap of faith, decide who or what you believe in, and move on." Well, no. One answer doesn't require a magical skydaddy existing outside of existence yet still caring about what hole you put it in in the bedroom. You act as if any answer is equal when evidence is short. It's not.

[@LarsPallesen]

I don't trust a journalist who speaks of "Darwinism" and "evolutionism". It reveals where he heard about these things.

[@Charlie-qe6lv]

I definitely don't agree with his critique of Darwinism--Science completely obliterates it, not just "language capacity."

[@Jordan-hz1wr]

You don't have to be a "scientist" to draw inferences from data for yourself. That's completely egotistical. What you're saying is we should all simply trust scientists instead of research these things for ourselves.

[@youngbahss3220]

@@Jordan-hz1wr he didnt say anything close. Hes saying that the guy obviously got his data from people who disbelieved rather than from darwin himself

[@brandwijkgg]

@@Jordan-hz1wr Is it possible that the majority of biologists who delve into the data regarding evolution are wrong? And I'm afraid that most people on this planet just aren't intelligent enough to objectively look at all the evidence and turn off their bias. Most people who really have a problem with evolution don't understand what it is or how it works. For many people, evolution is the nail in the coffin of their beliefs! And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it true that most Christians have no problem with evolution? "of course evolution is true, and god has set it in motion" I have no problems with that approach even though it is not based on anything other than assumptions.

[@sharkprisoner1909]

Their wrap up was basically “just ignore the science and only look at the language. And now he wears a polo” that was the most disappointing thing ever

[@zhyperjehophat3866]

Evolution is not science, evolution is false and evolution bullcrap requires more bullcrappy faith!

[@eddyeldridge7427]

Then how do you explain selective dog breeding?

[@zhyperjehophat3866]

@@eddyeldridge7427 It's adaptation not bullcrapy evocraption

[@eddyeldridge7427]

But HOW are they adapting? What's the process? Mutations? Selection pressures? Passing on genes? Guess what? That's evolution. You can slap a new label on it, but that process is still evolution.

[@AliceSpeltRight]

eddy eldridge Lol, he didn’t know how to respond to that

[@ronaqsahni5343]

Hey guys don't worry. That's just a theory.. A game theory!! And.....CUT!

[@Angeroast]

lmao

[@Chriscraft-ug3sz]

You fused game theory and film theory.

[@ijebbejakn1843]

Ronaq Sahni It’s a fact m9

[@hamstergodfufurufufu8842]

A scientific theory is the combination of many facts that form a larger fact, so it's beyond a fact and then some...

[@Programm4r]

@@hamstergodfufurufufu8842 Evolution isn't a scientific theory. It's just a theory.

[@timb9257]

At about 1:50, how/why could calling Darwin's theories a myth ever be dangerous?

[@shadygaming6523]

because a lot of stupid people consider it to be the truth

[@shadygaming6523]

@N/A yeah but you also can't prove time travel wrong

[@shadygaming6523]

@N/A of course you go for there is evidence but you don't understand it argument, there is no evidence, accept it and move on with your imaginary life

[@brianmi40]

@@shadygaming6523 Scientists,,, ---- those that gave you your iPhone, your Tesla, your Chemotherapy, your Lunar Lander, your High Speed Internet, are, "stupid"???

[@Death88758]

@@brianmi40 If we put a bomb inside a mountain of metal, would that bomb and 7 millions of magical evolution build an airplane from scratch with no guiding hand? I wouldn't call Scientist stupid,they are just "fools with non discerning hearts" as t God calls them.

[@TKO67]

Interviewer seems quite upset that an atheist scoffed at the notion of evolution as anything but fiction.

[@DC_R]

IKR. I would have kick him in the chest if I was there. Just for DIRESPECTING an Elder.

[@nevermind4555]

@Jr Juarezsorry to disappoint you but we don't have any evidence for species to different species evolution

[@nevermind4555]

@Jr Juarez do you even understand the meaning of species? A moth changing to another moth is still a moth! A horse breeding with a donkey produces a mule which cant breed with a donkey nor with a horse(direct parents let alone ancestors) not even with itself.. So no! You didnt prove anything

[@nevermind4555]

@Jr Juarez youre trying to act smart but failed miserably... You still didnt provide any evidence for Macro evolution!

[@GrimFate08]

Jr Juarez yes evolution within is species is real, not entire changes of species

[@515leopard]

Okay but does he know speech is the evolved trait in humans, developing a more complex form of communication that is unachieved by expressions alone

[@emmakelly3354]

read the book and find out hahah

[@TKO67]

really tell us how speech evolved????

[@comedowntopapa1184]

Same question for evolution, Why hasn't any animals reached human level? Clearly nothing makes us special to get this advanced. It feels to make evolution was really nice to humans, in terms of how smart we got. Also things that we did that just made no sense can't be explained by evolution like farming, using fires which is not the same as using tools because many animals use tools.

[@learose8623]

Rest in Peace Tom Wolfe- great revolutionary man

[@moideen7514]

🤣

[@bradyspace]

These journalists scoff at this notion, perhaps because they see themselves as parrots.

[@Kruffle123]

Who? Tom Wolfe?

[@eduardogardin879]

I am Catholic and The Catholic Church does not teach against the theory of evolution or even the Big Bang theory. Actually the father of the Big Bang Theory was a Catholic priest named Georges Lemaître

[@banahyasharahla3239]

Catholic church has nothing to do with the Bible except for the fact they use it as a prop. So it's not a surprise catholics have no problem with "Evolution", or the "Big Bang Theory". Two fictitious jokes.

[@robtierney5653]

Am I the only one remembering that birds can talk? Or that dogs understand emotional tones? Memory? lol Rats can memorize mazes, and squids remember problem solving puzzles. Chimpanzees can learn sign language. Sorry Mr. Wolfe, that was a swing and a miss.

[@fierymut4105]

It's a function in their brain that has not evolved but has been there we have not challenged it until recently

[@l.m.892]

When you find a rat (mouse?) who can design a maze, then you'll have a point. Otherwise, you should consider keeping the conversation unsaid.

[@4GUESTS]

In ''The Origin of Species,'' Darwin noted that without the appropriate fossil evidence (which did not exist in his day) his general theory would hold no weight. He and others tenaciously clung to the hope that the unfolding of the fossil record would show all of the intermediate forms necessary to support his claims. Today, however, with more than 100,000 species represented in fossils, the lack of intermediate forms is even greater than it was in Darwin's day.

[@zachary939]

Nonsense. There are lots and lots of intermediate forms in the fossil record.

[@graphguy]

Uh.... no we don't. There is zero evidence, but we would be happy to consider the sources that are confusing you.

[@graphguy]

There are ZERO .... put up your proof are stop acting like an ignorant PhD.

[@zachary939]

I'm not confused at all. It's also not my duty to teach you anything. There are scads upon scads of intermediate forms in the fossil record. You denying it doesn't make it any less true.

[@graphguy]

If not confused, then you don't understand the fossil record and the wishful thinking of secular scientists who love to put up half truths to support their opinions. There is no fossil records of intermediate forms showing 'evolution'. Zero, nada, not any 1 billion years ago, not any 1 billion years from now.

[@jorgensenmj]

When I hear arguments from Neil DeGrasse Tyson and other experts in genetics and anthroplogy in favor of the theory of evolution and about how it's pretty much not a "theory" anymore..it is a fact with literary millions of items of evidence... And then I hear Tom Wolfe the author of "The Electric Kool-aid Acid Test" tell me evolution is wrong....of course I will side with Tom Wolfe. Does that make me an idiot? Yes. Yes it does.

[@nevermind4555]

Not a fact big shot.. Millions of evidence? Give me one for species to species evolution..

[@juanvaladez5703]

jorgensenmj there is nothing rational about your position. All you said was ‘this group of people tells me evolution is true therefore I believe it’

[@BipBopB]

Thank god, there's another rational person in this comment section.

[@Yamyatos]

He has one point tho. Humans did not evolve from animals. Humans _are_ animals.

[@standard_eloquence]

You are an animal. We are humans.

[@revolution4palestine]

no we are not , we have minds and morals which animals dont have .

[@JellyAntz]

Wolf Exile we are animals that evolved morals

[@TKO67]

some look human but act very much like an animal

[@mr-_z6909]

@@JellyAntz Morals isn't something that evolve.. it's somthing we can not get it by any sources outside.. its something that just there.. and animals don't have them..

[@francisco8345]

Would be cool if they focused more on the science instead of his clothes. Evolution is a very interesting topic that there is a lot more to uncover but i thought that speach (as well as memory) exist and develop due to evolution

[@Ianthedisciple]

@@revan552 nope that’s micro evolution not macroevolution. There’s a lot of evidence against MacroEvolution. Speech & memory would be small but major development for humans... when people think of evolution they think it’s one organism turning into a completely different & new organism which is not the case...

[@Ianthedisciple]

@@revan552 bruh literally everything we can think of is “MADE UP” by something😭 are you stating that what Frank Turek and Ken Ham is doing is completely different from what Darwin did? I beg to differ bro

[@Ianthedisciple]

@@revan552 there may be a flaw in my statement but there’s definitely a flaw in yours as well.

[@Ianthedisciple]

@@revan552 and no duh we’re not the only animals that have memory and possess the ability for communication. I love your insight bruh but instead of coming with insults how about we be civil & respectable🙏🏽💫

[@andrewwalter5841]

@@Ianthedisciple Macroevolution is just a culmination of millions of years of microevolutionary steps, like how a minute is the culmination of 60 seconds in a row. In that sense you could think of it as microevolution being the thing that actually happens and macroevolution is a just a label that we use to describe when a culmination of microevolutionary steps leads to speciation. I'm a little confused though, you first statement that there is no evidence for macroevolution seems to imply that you don't agree with evolution through natural selection but your second statement seems to imply that you do, or are you just being fair and trying to represent it correctly? If that's the case I can definitely respect that because I don't see that very often.

[@ateistalrr9270]

This comment section: - atheists: trying to teach what is evolution; giving proofs of evolution, and correcting christians who misunderstood what evolution says. - christians: ignoring everything that proves evolution and trying to disprove evolution using false informations, like that there was a test when after millions of generations of flies, weve not observed any changes in these flies. (The test actually happened, but it wasnt FRICKING MILLIONS of generations but only afew THOUSANDS if not hundreds generations, and there happened afew changes in flies instead of NONE)

[@dgs266]

Evolution makes sense to me but I still believe in god you can have both also I think you we don’t have all the answers to evolution

[@markthomas9769]

Darwinian evolution was a nice story in 1860, but after 150 years and the advances in microbiology, his comments such as "the simple cell" now appear quaint and silly.

[@shawn870]

Mark Thomas Which is why the theory of evolution has evolved since Darwins day.

[@markthomas9769]

Shawn H Punctuated Equalibria and the like have only made it more childlike.

[@shawn870]

Mark Thomas Punctuated equilibrium is still currently a hypothesis and not part of the theory of evolution yet, although most versions are consistent with the current theory. There is quite a lot of misunderstanding about it by creationists though which makes the discussion harder.

[@shawn870]

Mark Thomas Since it appears you deleted your latest comment and the notification cuts off before you got around to saying something useful, i dont know what point you were trying to make.

[@markthomas9769]

Shawn H I've been in many of these discussions and the Darwinist will always immediately go to the religion card. Why do you assume that only "Creationists" disagree with you? I oppose Darwin because it's junk science, period. It's a story with virtually no SCIENCE behind it. It can't show how life comes from non-life; how speciation occurs; how the Cambrian Explosion occurred; how the complexity of microbiology "evolved"; etc etc etc. In short, as "science" it's a joke. As philosophy, it's mildly interesting. It was born in Ionic philosophy 2500 years ago and has kicked around ever since as a pseudo religion. But science? I can't see it. I have to "modify" the Law of Entropy and a few other truly scientific principles (like making mutation a positive phenomena) in order to accept this idea. Nothing is testable, nothing is provable, nothing is repeatable. You either believe or don't believe.

[@BANKO007]

Given that speech is an outcome of evolution, the suggestion seems to be incoherent.

[@VengefulPolititron]

Nice theory based on zero evidence.

[@ErroneousMonk1]

It's "dangerous to say Darwinism is a myth". Is that where we are now?

[@dvsgkbdjhsuioxgb4082]

saying evolution theory is a myth is like being a flat earther

[@dvsgkbdjhsuioxgb4082]

​@Old World Order XD

[@dvsgkbdjhsuioxgb4082]

@Old World Order watch more flat earthers and creators of conspiracy theories

[@dvsgkbdjhsuioxgb4082]

HAAHAHA try to explain sun, moon eclipses and moon phases on flat earth XD

[@whiteknight9221]

@Thomas The Thank Engine maybe he has. But if you'd educate yourself, you wouldn't need some KZbin users to explain you basis knowlegde of science.

[@Jalip07]

@Old World Order Why would DNA be too complex? We know how it could occour, and the disproof of it is usually people simplifying it to an extent that has no place in reality. Nevermind the fact that people argue that complexity points to God, which should mean that this happening would point to God even more. But no one thinks like that for some reason.

[@jonesy2111]

That was the beginning of intelligent life when one human being spoke to another. LOGOS...

[@AriBenDavid]

Noam Chomsky told me he thought the theory of evolution was "a modern fable."

[@bretcantwell4921]

Perhaps you should get your science information from actual scientists.

[@jessicaw2662]

Chomsky doesn't reject evolution; the longer answer goes like this: Chomsky is arguing that it doesn't give sufficient insight into the nature of a 'natural organ of language', the existence of which has been won, as admitted by Dennett in this review of his book by the biologist Maynard Smith, who also agrees with Dennett on this. Searle points out that Chomsky moved linguistics from a classificatory science to a structural one; that is all human languages have a deep structure that is universal; and this universal grammar is already innate to the mind - in other words the child's mind is not a tabula rasa (blank slate), on which language is inscribed; but already has a language native to it; which when exposed to a language environment - say Gaelic - gradually loses its generality and becomes specific; and it's specific character is Gaelic.

[@BUSeixas11]

Jessica W and Steven Pinker is the most prominent defender of that view today

[@jc-tn3wm]

So the reason why I should dispute evolution is because of speech and mans achievements? Give me a break.

[@IssyFishyy]

If you even understood his argument, you would dispute evolution. But then again, your stubbornness prevents you from doing so.

[@naumanminhas5983]

Dna itself is so complicated and delicately engineered thinking that it happended by chance is absolute lunacy.

[@kye4216]

Something being complicated does not require a creator, at it’s nothing totally random at all DNA has become more complex over time like how a tree starts off as a little shoot and can have thousands of branches as it matures

[@s.unosson]

@@kye4216 Trees have DNA.

[@pauldirc..]

​@@s.unosson yeah every living organism have cells and each cell have dna inside it

[@johnscallan5648]

From the comments I can see the Wolfe has achieved his goal of getting people to revisit this top and re-examine their stand. Then we expressed our views. Pretty nice!

[@BP7BlackPearl]

@Aria ALL HAIL SCIENCE. IT TAKES MORE FAITH TO BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION THAN TO BELIEVE IN GOD

[@BP7BlackPearl]

@Aria No its not. ANd to claim nobody has jumped on the creationism bandwagon is plain false. The list is long. Personal insults just show a lack of validity in your point.

[@BP7BlackPearl]

@Aria kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6OqiI1jf9mtgdE 6 minutes long, watch it, then talk to me.

[@claudiuplugariu1488]

@@BP7BlackPearl Don't try to argue with atheists and evolutionists, they are toxic people. It's a waste of time and energy, these people cannot be reasoned. I've had an argument yesterday with an evolutionist and he kept insulting me while I was giving him some arguments. Any response I gave him, he'd just reply with "You are an idiot, you are idiot.". Seriously, if I could show you the conversation I had, you would cringe too. They are there for the sake of being toxic since they are safe being a screen with no consequences.

[@BP7BlackPearl]

@@claudiuplugariu1488 U r right. But, Im not refuting them with science and facts to change their minds, but to those who r on the fence and reading. It just hurts their cause when they hurl personal insults like Im getting in this thread. I call them on it. Still, my main three arguements, single cell , life from non living matter, salmon swimming upstream, and the butterfly, they cant answer how that could have been done in small increments. Even Darwin said the same about the eye. .............Thanks for the support, we all need to hear the voice of reason to support us while we are shouting in the wilderness lol.

[@jonasphilip909]

He's dressed like MJ in smooth criminal

[@charkatslife]

So what he’s saying is that because humans have the power of speech then we didn’t evolve from other animals...? Then how come dolphins have been proven to have an even more complex and in depth way of communication then we do.

[@Llllillilililililillll]

more complex communication doesn't mean more intelligent. It just means more complex... you're not very bright, are you?

[@catpantsfriday8423]

Charlotte Freymann then why don’t they go ahead and travel to space? Or build, I don’t... anything?

[@aprilfoozeler]

I feel like everyone who calls themself a scientist should question and challenge the things they have been taught, at least that’s what my science teachers encourages students to do. Or else, how are we suppose to learn new things and think for ourselves?

[@aprilfoozeler]

@Whitney Washington It’s not believing it or not, it’s about questioning it and reviewing the evidence for yourself, a lot of well known and respected scientists have different views about the evolution theory and some don’t think it’s credible. But the whole point is to find evidence and consider all aspects to disprove or prove this theory as a law or not. If we had ALL or enough evidence to prove evolution is a law, then it wouldn’t be a theory. There really isn’t an overwhelming amount of evidence, there are so many gaps that we still need to find to prove (or disprove) the evolution theory.

[@aprilfoozeler]

@Whitney Washington no it’s best to talk ask questions and discuss to learn your mistakes, I’m not a grown adult btw. 😂😂😂 (I’m a freshman in high school). And because of your comment I learned something, the difference of a law and theory, and you are correct. So thank you! But if I didn’t make a mistake or said anything, I wouldn’t have learned! 😃 I respect your stand on this matter, and maybe I am a fool but that’s okay. 👍 I can’t say and I never have said I really understand evolution, I don’t. If I did I probably wouldn’t have watched this video anyways. 😛

[@oonioomphs9440]

Cheers for standing up to one of the greatest myths taught as science in our schools.

[@oonioomphs9440]

May Ling It is recurring debate/near controversy where I live. And yes, evolution is being taught in almost all grade levels at public schools and state colleges where liberals decide what the curriculum must include. Adaptation is science. Evolution is right down there with alchemy.

[@oakstonefilms1315]

Explain

[@linkthepig4219]

Explain

[@David-jy7vh]

OK, it depends, micro evolution is a fact and has been proven, but macro evolution is an unproven theory without any fossil record to support it

[@DamianSAAAN]

@@oonioomphs9440 You wouldn't know because you've never taken an evolutionary biology course clearly. It's always the uneducated

[@frankcastleisdead7473]

Regardless of his thoughts on Evolution. He is an incredible Writer, and an American Icon.

[@briansview2886]

Well he's correct

[@billlynchfilms1858]

The problem for Tom Wolfe, is that Darwin's theory of evolution applies to the entire animal kingdom, whether or not they have developed any form of speech. His notion that humans can't do anything without speech is ludicrous and biased. Wolfe himself, through his writing, shows the reader how speech can be misleading and irrelevant.

[@user-gl5yk5ys5b]

maybe you should take a peek in the book before you start refuting it

[@cd1857]

What a slip of honest commentary from a reporter... it's "dangerous" to challenge Darwin's theory of evolution... now why should that be?

[@davidowens5898]

He's a very smart guy and a superb writer; as such, I with hold comment on his assertion. I'll read the book first. Then comment.......

[@nootgourd3452]

"It's no use saying human beings evolved from animals..." No, it is of much use. It answers many questions in science, and it is the truth. It's usefulness doesn't depend on your ignorant evaluation that it is of no use.

[@wachyfanning]

I mean it's also false. We didn't evolve from them, we ARE animals.

[@eddyeldridge7427]

looks like Nathan Gawronsky deleted his comments after being called out on criticisizing models he's never read. despite his constant trolling, he eventually realized he was embarrassing himself.

[@jameseldridge3445]

Every person who denies evolution has never read a Darwin book. Funny how that works lol

[@dylandubois7098]

Thank you Tom, you make fellow writers feel like they have a story worth telling ❤️

[@moogmike1]

He was an educated prat.

[@barbara1904]

How can a theory be a myth?

[@josephcope7637]

When it becomes dogma rather than scientific knowledge subject to change with new evidence. What amazes me is how many people who have precious little knowledge of evolutionary theory are so firmly convinced it's absolutely true. It shows how persuasive a doubtful idea can be for those who'd rather let others do their thinking for them.

[@chadheinrich3117]

So, is he kinda just a provocateur contrarian? He sounds like a version of Milo Yiannopoulos from an earlier generation. He's even a dandy like Milo.

[@wrs6565]

That's a lot of it--he likes to get into fights. His quintessential subject has, since about 1970, been taking down the vain and pompous and rich and status-seeking trendy and self-absorbed. He really hates intellectuals because he thinks they're all of those things. Problem is, he's gradually turned into a dull old conservative square dick and by all accounts this book is riddled with horrible errors and Chomsky probably won't be losing any sleep over it.

[@brucetucker4847]

He's a much, much better writer than Milo.

[@FaithwalkerTodd]

Let me guess, you're an atheist, I know, it's a gift.

[@stuartnicklin650]

Chad Heinrich not sure Milo will be around as long as this guy.

[@hugolindum7728]

Milo isn’t just dumb ignorant of his target.

[@ThekiBoran]

Why at 2:15 was the word 'too' misspelled? This is a major network broadcasting this stuff.

[@garnerjazz58]

America dumbs down when it watches the network morning shows. Noise while you get the kids ready for school...

[@1spiders1]

Evolution is a fairy tale for grown ups .. once upon a time ...

[@LawrieAllen]

What a stupid thing to say. We can say the same about any religious book.

[@UltimatePowa]

@@LawrieAllen I believe this is a troll, if not, I need to find a good place to schedule myself a crucifixion and get outta here. Personally, I believe in God. And I also believe in the gifts that God has given us, like science. Just because we used to attribute things to god in the past, doesn't mean he doesn't exist, it just means we have no way to wrap our head around the concept.

[@LawrieAllen]

@J S Correct but we did evolve from a common ancestor which would now be extinct.

[@Pepsi-Mann21]

@@UltimatePowa courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-wmopen-biology1/chapter/outcome-evidence-for-evolution/ What Lawrie Allen says is correct. You could call me a troll, but his words actually make sense.

[@hellowkiske]

bro stop listening to Kent Hovind lmao😂😂😂 take biology and bioinformatics classes

[@samking4179]

2:18....I seriously doubt that Tom Wolfe spelled, "too" incorrectly. Blame that on a flunkie at CBS.

[@hellowkiske]

Why is it that journalists criticize evolution? Do you really think biologists spend their lives studying phylogenetics, paleoecology, behavior, physiology, molecular biology etc. using the most advanced mathematical and computational tools for nothing?? I'm 10000% okay with new challenges but man do journalists try to prove Einstein or Weinberg wrong? Evolution is much more complicated than it was in the 1800s and it takes years of research to come up with new (amazing and beautiful) findings.

[@irenesara455]

Evolution is not amazing/beautiful. Do know how much trouble it brought to people darwinism and mistreating people, looking down on people. Yeah we are also animals, why not? I'm not against in searching in our roots. I even don't understand the whole world itself. unintelegent materials do something the makes sense with the help of laws. Where do they even come from ?????

[@hellowkiske]

@@irenesara455 We are definitely closely related to the other great apes. Phylogenists, molecular biologists and paleontologists no longer argue about this, and I really mean : No Longer. I can answer if you have doubts. Also, regarding your first point, I personally think it is fascinating to see how we got here. We can now better understand (for the first time) our place in the universe. We are no mere animals. We are conscious, empathic, creative and intelligent beings. What a privilege to be alive today - with all the scientific knowledge we have acquired over the years. I find it uplifting and wonderful. Also, if you wanna believe in God, great. It doesn't contradict science as long as it's not REPLACING it.

[@hellowkiske]

@@irenesara455 I do wanna point out that I agree with your statement on "Darwinism" and how it has led to major problems in our societies. That's a different issue though. I do not want to live in a "Darwinian society" either. You can understand and acknowledge evolution and love your neighbour as yourself at the same time. Again, we are not mere animals. We can achieve incredible things.

[@briandubai8671]

Well think about it; Where’s all the in between stages?

[@fraist1]

First was collection of resources, second was hunting of animals, third was herding animals, fourth was farming and stability of houses, fifth is machinery and crafting

[@wachyfanning]

They're dead?

[@heggedaal]

Darwinism isn't a thing as opposed to evolution. There is a Darwinian theory of evolution which is well substantiated. Journalists are not a good source for scientific knowledge, even smart ones like Tom Wolfe.

[@skennco]

His reasoning is essentially this, "I don't understand it, so its a myth."

[@eddyeldridge7427]

As with virtually all science deniers.

[@themadcommenter826]

Your understanding is "everybody's gonna make fun of me, so I'll just be a butthurt athiest"

[@nicetrythief8347]

The Mad Commenter Sadly there is a very big percentage of people who do believe in Darwinism, it is funny how some claim that it is facts and science but the truth is that you need more faith to believe in Marco evolution than you do to believe in God.

[@themadcommenter826]

@@nicetrythief8347 I KNOW RIGHT?!!!!??!!

[@lazyh-online4839]

@@nicetrythief8347 and how does that make sense, especially when we understand evolution more than we understand gravity? Archeologists and scientists once set out to find the first fish that walked on land, after studying fossil records and applying the principles of evolution through different models they were able to find the fish exactly where they predicted. The fossil records may not be complete without any minute gaps but they are complete enough and we understand them enough to be able to predict where to find animals that we haven't even seen yet based on their evolutionary history. This is only a test portion of a single field of study that gives evidence of evolution. On the other hand if God were real you would need some way to explain away all the current evidence that is falsifiable and verifiable which so far NOBODY has been able to do. If you have any evidence of God that is verifiable and falsifiable then I'd love to hear it.

[@13gladius28]

Polo with upturned collar. Yes

[@itsmjeezy2596]

"He stalks his east side New York neighborhood like an immaculate white Persian cat." Haha omg what an introduction

[@austinayers2509]

I believe in evolution but it being dangerous to question it? Like I don’t remember the last time someone going on a killing spree because someone questioned evolution and Darwinism. Like you can believe it or not. Not like not believing in it will get you tortured for eternity.

[@Larboga]

“First nonfiction book in 15 years” nah it’s still fiction.

[@sanmigueltv]

Liam I was going to comment the same thing lol

[@coleworld5010]

Liam evolution is BIG CAP

[@danieldiaz117]

LMAO good one.

[@citizenschallengeYT]

2:00 Wolfe says "The problem with evolution is that it takes 6 or 7 million years." - Get what Wolfe is saying here? Tom rejects evolution because it makes us puny. Another 'great thinker' who believes reality is contained within our mindscapes. Getting lost in the map and forgetting about the underlying territory.

[@geem752]

In fact, we are puny

[@jamesrmorris1952]

Did we not evolve speech and had a rappid growth in technology from third? Once you can pass on ideas of course we will explore in technolog, animals have memory too but not language like ours

[@williamaitken4544]

I've not read Tom Wolfe. This dissuades me from bothering to do so.

[@delu9422]

No where is it called a "fact" it is always called a "theory". Also in islam, we believe prophet adam is the first ever human and allah created him as a human and we have not evolved since. Btw im 11 so i didnt really explain it well but i tried my best lmao

[@moby755]

a fact on it's own is not science. a bunch of facts bundled together is not science either. when scientists say something is a theory, they don't mean 'just a theory' or 'probably true'. a good way to think about a scientific theory is that a scientific theory is supported by thousands of pieces of evidence, has been able to perfectly explain everything that the theory itself supports, and is also subject to lots of questioning yet still is able to explain the things it supports. im actually a former-muslim myself and I was able to learn about how to think objectively. however I do still eat halal.

[@strikeobama9071]

Salam

[@1MDA]

Please go watch Acts17apologetics it will change your life, and stay open minded

[@Jesus-lf4bq]

How did thousands of human races appear from just adam? Things had to have changed since then. Or how did neanderthal & denisovan DNA make it's way into European & south eastern peoples DNA but not everybody's?

[@1MDA]

@@Jesus-lf4bq An theory is that Adam and Even were chosen by God not the first humans, and theire creation description could be just an methaphor of their part in creation and theire relation with God. Not shore if that is true, but that is the most natural explanation in the light of the evidence.

[@endofdays4003]

Anybody know which page of the bible tells you how to turn water into wine? Asking for a friend 👍🏼

[@Miroshen]

John 14:13 would be a good start.

[@flimsyjimnz]

Actually a good question -that's the essence of miricles: a recipe is impossible because they come from the supernatural.

[@yarik14]

he's so right

[@Himmyjewett]

Christian surely they always get everything mixed up

[@Blackstar-ti4py]

@@Himmyjewett Stick to video games and let politics be 😉

[@Himmyjewett]

@@Blackstar-ti4py when did i say anything about politics

[@Blackstar-ti4py]

@@Himmyjewett because that is politics, but high politics and I didnt expect you to know that 😉

[@marshallwayne9270]

Whenever someone talks about Evolution and mentions Darwin as the be all end all tells me they know nothing about Evolution, when I actually studied Evolution when I majored in Biology we barely mentioned Darwin because we have so much beyond him we don't even have time for one guy who wasn't even the originator of the hypothesis.

[@chrisose]

I'll take the evidence of science over the bluster of white clad peacock every day of the week.

[@mohamedka3762]

Evoution is actually nota fact it has many holes which is just civerd with

[@philderkomischetyp4481]

@@mohamedka3762 It is a fact.

[@galactic_clashx4056]

Phil der komische typ if it’s a fact then why aren’t we still evolving tell me one thing that has evolved in your life time?

[@chimpanzeethat3802]

We are still evolving, albeit very slowly because we're not a genetically isolated species of animals in the wild. New species to have evolved in your own lifetime include Culex pipiens, Hawthorne flies, Peromycus maniculatus, Halcyon chloris, Lalage, Primula kewensis, Tritiocosecale, and the new Geospiza that evolved three years ago to name but a few.

[@galactic_clashx4056]

Aaron Kellett and evolving how!? What is evolving our brains cuz if so I think it’s aging backwards I mean if that’s what you call evolution then you’re theory is correct considering you all still think we came from nothing pretty much I mean how would the world be created or how would everything we need in life be created I mean and our bodies have everything we need to survive nature can’t do that and you can’t say we just grew arms and also where’d EVERY single animal come from?

[@cambs0181]

Have noticed it is very rare to find a Western creationalist without an American accent.

[@viktorthevictor6240]

It's an endangered species

[@benbyrd4552]

Viktor the victor We can only hope

[@ericmago4110]

America! - The place with some of the smartest people in the world BUT also the place where - despite a decent educational system - the pinnacle of pure stupidy and ignorance is found among a large portion of people.

[@conborg4770]

@@ericmago4110 Wow, I just have to start off with a wow. Anyways, hey man, I’ve seen what you said. First off, if your going to give a statement about something, show some proof/evidence, explain what you truly believe is going on, and then think deeply about it before you post it. No one can and should follow what you say if there is not an example. However, if you truly believe in Theory of Evolution, it must be hard knowing that your “just another step” in the Evolutionary process. I believe that this Theory is honestly, quite depressing. How could you live knowing that your useless and you won’t be going anywhere after death? Thanks, and I hope you find the Truth.

[@ericmago4110]

@SCP- 999 First of all, Evolution does NOT say anything about how life formed at first. Evolution is merely adapting over a period of time. I do believe in Evolution. BUT, I do not claim to know how life was formed - because we do not have sufficient evidence to prove it. BUT this does not mean that life did come from "nothing". We just do not know yet. I am not an expert on Evolution and science by no means. Neither are you as clearly shown. From what I can read, organisms CAN gain more genetic code over time because they are able to duplicate. AND this has been proven with a significant amount of evidence - so I have no idea where your knowledge comes from. 'You also have to keep in mind that Evolution takes thousands if not millions of years. Evolution does not just happen like in Pokemon. It happens veeeryyy slowly. There are thousands upon thousands of research papers proving Evolution, I would love for you to find just 1 proving Creationism.

[@sunsetman1479]

Perhaps Tom could enlighten us on how there are different races of people and different species of animals that have very similar features but are different. At the same time, I suppose he can claim that DNA is also a myth.

[@jameseldridge3445]

All these comments but not one person has actually read The Descent of Man or Origin of Species. Darwin has whole sections in both books dedicated to speech and language. This man just want publicity for sales. Sad

[@vilod]

I see he's back to fiction.

[@jerrytang8684]

@vilod: Not at all. It's you who had been on fiction all along.

[@allisonjuno7654]

Jerry Tang how do, you’re the one who “disagrees” with science

[@carlpen850]

@ vilod... hahaha lol... good one and thumbs up

[@Smokey298]

Fate 04 What science do creationists disagree with?

[@mv9787]

Natural selection is a joke in species

[@jadinwemette8251]

These people showed more disrespect to this man than anything

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

He is making silly statements. They simply expressed skepticism about obviously false statements.

[@benevolentconcepts]

I don’t think Charles Darwin believes in what we call ‘Darwinism’

[@eddyeldridge7427]

Hes dead, he doesn't believe anything

[@eddyeldridge7427]

@Don C. White Ah, another conspiracy theorist who doesn't know what a freemason is. Just like he doesn't know that no what cares what Darwin thought.

[@deez420nuts69]

Communication is human evolution, we see it on the battlefield every day. We exist for a reason, life, death, it all has something to do with something. It's an argument that has been debated since the beginning of time. It will never be resolved. It is beyond our understanding and no matter what research we do, we will never know for certain until we're dead. If evolution existed, a third arm would be damn useful to scratch my balls while playing Arma 3. Still haven't got my third arm yet.

[@sirderam1]

If you developed a third arm to scratch your balls with that would be a miracle, not evolution. Miracles are more in the religious line than in the scientific line - I suggest you try praying for that third arm! Good luck!

[@paulteti]

They never let him say WHY "Darwinism" is a myth, let him back up that statement, so disappointed in this clip.

[@conorleon3591]

Because Darwinism is not a myth, the book was a desperate attention grab

[@Death88758]

@@conorleon3591 If you believe you evolved from an animal where does consciousness and morality comes from?

[@papidesport9271]

First ever human in earth is adam A.S

[@jaidaeison6650]

papide no

[@insciencewetrust1183]

@A Aart No

[@insciencewetrust1183]

@A Aart We are all created from one person (which Im assuming is Adam) is not correct because there no evidence we came from 2 people. We all share a common ancestor. Also try to say all of that again have a hard time reading it.

[@al_temuri]

Exactly yes

[@insciencewetrust1183]

@A Aart Yes I read the Quran.

[@HairyKiwiBalls]

An eccentric character denies science? This man is no different than the many conspiratorial evolution deniers found on the internet.

[@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504]

Evolution theory isn't quite a wrap though is it, there are so many hole's in it.

[@HairyKiwiBalls]

@@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 Well I don't know what you mean by 'wrap' because science is never wrapped up - it continues to change and improve on current models. DNA alone is evidence of evolution by natural selection so not sure why you would suggest evolutionary science is something we don't have enough data on. Which holes are you referring to? And why hasn't there been peer-reviewed articles pointing out these flaws?

[@garnerjazz58]

This piece is very thin on information re Wolfe's book. Very little time spent on elaborating his ideas, with almost as much time given to his style of dress and well known career highlights. This is what passes for journalism at the big three TV networks. Shallow.