They MUST fix this. My uncle crashed an F-22 in 2009. He was a very experienced pilot. How many more must die??
@cas34312 жыл бұрын
There's 4 kinds of hypoxia: - Hypoxic: caused by reduced O2 in the blood. - Stagnant: caused by hard acceleration on the body. - Histotoxic: some contaminant such as CO or alcohol taking the place of O2 in hemoglobin. - Hypemic Hypoxia: CO2 levels drop and you can't absorb any more oxygen (hyperventilation). The F-22 pilots had 3 of these. I've done hypobaric training and the onset of hypoxia is quite insidious. You won't notice until its almost too late.
@user-xw4hn7lb3x6 ай бұрын
Nah. It is the PAO fluid leaking into the OBOGS and they are breathing it in.
@martypoynter98066 ай бұрын
Created by extreme G forces?
@cas3436 ай бұрын
@@martypoynter9806 lol hey it's been awhile since I flew hasn't it. They said it was due to G forces but that doesn't explain the black gunk they were coughing up.
@raulgutierrez5604 ай бұрын
@@cas343They said it was the carbon filter.
@piloto34HD9 жыл бұрын
The Viagra part just killed it. lolololol
@wan_otakkiridesign6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@ralfidude12 жыл бұрын
Because they just found out recently that its not the oxygen thats screwed up, its the G suit that inflates when the aircraft is NOT pulling G's, therefor restricting the pilot's oxygen indirectly.
@pergrytt84273 жыл бұрын
cobra snake strategy
@thomasodetinape418017 күн бұрын
Nonsense
@Vicvines12 жыл бұрын
i saw a story where the air force actually said that the pilot who died was distracted by his lack of oxygen. They say it was the pilot's fault for crashing because he was distracted... by not being able to breathe... whaaaaaat the fuuuuuuuck?
@user-xw4hn7lb3x6 ай бұрын
PAO cooling fluid is leaking into the OBOGS and the pilots are breathing it in. ☠
@Kymv83825 жыл бұрын
It's not really surprising that the body has adverse reactions to going 1500 mph pulling 8-9 G's regularly. You can build these insanely advanced aircraft's but that doesn't mean the pilots are physiologically capable of handling it.
@ChristiaanBurgel Жыл бұрын
If speed and G's would be the cause, these problems would have been occurring with many other fighter jets aswel.
@zoltancsikos5604 Жыл бұрын
@@ChristiaanBurgel Exactly. It is the fault of the F-22.
@AVISIONMUSICTV Жыл бұрын
The body can only handle so much. Speed of sound, G force. They need to design a cockpit that can isolate the pilot from the forces of physics.
@Jbutler636 ай бұрын
I'm pretty disappointed with the U.S.AirForce not taking appropriate actions to ground the fleet of F-22 Raptor's.I support these pilots to not fly the F-22's.Thankyou gentleman for serving our Country. '
@starloszelson4541Ай бұрын
This was 12 years ago. Has the problem been fixed
@buzzkanter12 жыл бұрын
Amazing men doing something very brave. Well done!
@GuyFromSC7 ай бұрын
The fact that this only has 515 👍🏼 and 145 comments, 11 years later is concerning, wierd, puzzling, and flat out scary. Has this issue been fixed or hushed? Could these “hypoxia-related” symptoms be anyway related to EW sensors, radars, radiation, RAM (Radar Absorbing Material)? These are cutting edge technologies and materials that we don’t know very much about. Just saying… 🙏🏼
@supermansavez5 жыл бұрын
By now I hope they fixed the problem. The reason why there not allowed to say something is wrong is because we are to stuck up with pride and never admit something is wrong with a very expressive aircraft and that we as Americans are better then any other country even if we have to lie about it. These guys are brave and all there doing is paving the way for younger pilots of the future and make things better. God bless America! 👍
@abramstank84748 жыл бұрын
maybe they're breathing in the jets exhaust.
@donovan93566 жыл бұрын
Abrams Tank you are probably right
@gosugosu12804 ай бұрын
something like that, yea
@H2oRiz12 жыл бұрын
If the problem is fixed by taking oxygen up. Then the entire oxygen generating system has to be re-engineered and replaced, at Lockheed's expense
@ricecakeFTW12 жыл бұрын
Man that plane looks awesome regardless. I'm pretty sure they will fix the problem.
@cechanowicz9 жыл бұрын
What stops them from checking if the have this problem while breathing o2 from a compressed holder?
@m67pia9 жыл бұрын
What cind of fighter jet was Norway going to buy.?
@daedae88Ай бұрын
Who would’ve thought flying up to 9gs at 60k ft would be bad for you
@usaffuturecadet806210 жыл бұрын
The F-22 has in flight sensors that that traack your heart rate, and blood preasure. If you lose consciousness during flight the plane will basically fly itself. Hence not so much of a danger to the community.
@Verdigo7612 жыл бұрын
Well part of the engine's air bleed system supplies pilots with oxygen to breathe. Commercial jets do the same thing. Im wondering if the radar absorbant material has anything to do with it. Its well known that the stuff flakes off and has to be reapplied often. I am thinking maybe its gettting into the air intake and contaminating their air supply. That or the air supply mechinism itself just sucks.
@carlosquiroz7819 Жыл бұрын
It's not the same, very different in fact
@marktorch9079Ай бұрын
I heard in 2022 They did identify the problem causing hypoxia and disorientation. The life support system was flawed. By taking off a specific filter it helped with some of the problems pilots had flying the F-22, Putting yourself in high G-Forces does have it's negative effect, like not being able to deliver oxygen to the bloodstream but is that just with the F-22 or do pilots flying other air-frames have similar issues. I would imagine the F-16 being the beast that it is would also cause Acceleration atelectasis giving the right circumstance
@BWS9526 ай бұрын
Anyone else getting Maverick and Goose vibes?
@MetalMilitia6g7x12 жыл бұрын
I don't consider myself an aerospace engineer by any means but looking over the design makes me question if the unit is able to produce enough oxygen at high altitudes and during high speed maneuvers. Does the unit take into account the variables presented by atmospheric changes as well as change in engine speed?
@theronbassett55052 жыл бұрын
11:57 This aged well !!
@FactNinja7 күн бұрын
🫡🇺🇸
@SuzanaMantovaniCerqueira5 ай бұрын
Protect the militaries’s health, please. Increase the Risk Analyses.
@transformersboy64723 жыл бұрын
I love that F-22
@JBC81412 жыл бұрын
If this is the same system used on the F-18, then your guess is probably right. The symptoms they describe are consistent with toxic contamination (dizziness, etc.), so the new carbon filters may do the trick. However, if it is not the same system as used on the F-18, et al, then the system may be inadequate for use on fighters, as MetalMilitia6g7x has stated below.
@steveserba776611 жыл бұрын
Sukohiu 35 you can turn up or down air temperature or pressure or face mask oxygen temperature or pressure. Same with F14 or B2 if I can rember correctly. Mig 31 has all sorts of medical equipment.
@pntballer4life0112 жыл бұрын
Why don't they just install onboard oxygen tanks until they get it figured out? Also why go through the engine then to the pilots? It doesn't seem like that's a good idea in the first place. Who knows what they're breathing in then. Why not go to the pilot then the engine, or just have separate lines to the engine and the pilot?
@briankrasne35185 ай бұрын
This is why We need to get the NGAD program up and running already.
@wildmanturner16 күн бұрын
It’s called Atelectasis. Maybe some congestive fluid build up in the lungs as well.
@mistervivaldee12 жыл бұрын
Damn you starscream!
@ffrgtm12 жыл бұрын
The Air Force specifically stated that the g-suit vests are not the root cause of the problem, but they believe they are contributing. All military equipment, especially a fighter jet, is engineered with a certain level of redundancy. A safety factor against failure modes. For a problem like this to occur, several things have to go wrong at once. That's what's happening... that's why this is so hard to solve.
@tophat2002 Жыл бұрын
Any news on a fix yet?
@SacredSocietyAP11 жыл бұрын
Here's the problem. OBOGS is an outdated system that should have never been put into the aircraft. They should have used a LOX system like that of the F/A-18, which works great. OBOGS is fine in patrol aircraft, but for a fighter you need a LOX system. After a decade of dealing with these systems, I can tell you that who ever put the OBOGS system in the F-22 was a complete moron, and should be fired for incompetence.
@bobbastion73356 жыл бұрын
9 Gs is not uncommon. I think they are going to find that byproducts from combustion are making their way into the pilots respiratory system.
@goonigoogoo58689 ай бұрын
it finally shot down a very dangerous balloon
@asheshinfinite37662 жыл бұрын
Josh looks sick! USAF shouldn't take these precious pilots' lives so lightly!😒
@johnnyblaze843921 күн бұрын
Well, the human body surley wasn't built to pull how ever many g's and the other amazing things it can do.
@PchanStitch12 жыл бұрын
You just saw at least two pilots who refuse to get into the aircraft. Why don't you ask THEM why they're crying?
@charge251Ай бұрын
Its probably the glass
@charge251Ай бұрын
You have to fly it to find the problem
@coolnathan9012 жыл бұрын
why wont the air force just REPLACE THE OXYGEN SYSTEM IS THAT HARD!!!?! >:(
@bootywarrior694205 жыл бұрын
Yes
@sammy0807987 ай бұрын
All these flight surgeons in these comments. Everytime I went to see mine, he was the only one in my command.... Crazy how many there are now.....
@zabercrombie2411 жыл бұрын
Hey Air Force another of the many reasons you should have chosen the YF-23 Black Widow II during the ATF competition !
@bobbastion73356 жыл бұрын
I know this is five years old but it is still right. As I recall the Black Widow outperformed the Raptor. You want to believe there was a good reason to choose one over the other but we are all aware of how contracts are acquired. Politics and money.
@Dennisaj4 жыл бұрын
This is the same problem a US Navy captain faced during the coronavirus.
@SuzanaMantovaniCerqueira5 ай бұрын
It was 11 years ago… What was the cause then ? 🤔 If the problem only happen during the flight ? They needed analyses during the missions. Maybe the air is too polluted ( more than the level which was based to create the filter) that the filter cannot work properly ?? Or a mechanical problem ?
@davidv090111 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because of the weapons being inside
@Boeing-xj5hhАй бұрын
Is this F-22 specific or OBOGS equipped jets in general?
@madbager17 ай бұрын
More like why is it making pilots sick and have extreme headaches!
@steveserba776611 жыл бұрын
greatest handeling jet for the size that cuts out on oxygen even the emergency oxygen is not the equivilant to the sukohiu 35 or black bird. it feels like the pressure suite cuts out oxygen around the chest and legs. The fuel pumps can be opened uped for more speed.
@willboe3311 жыл бұрын
Has anyone checked the OBOGS system. According to this story the air feed for it 'runs through the engine', and then to the O2 generator. It seems to me that it is possible to find intense heat, and serious toxins inside a jet engine as a result of burning a shitload of Jet A fuel. Or maybe it is Jet M by now. Also, as pointed out by SacredSocietyAP below, a LOX system is much better than OBOGS. It must be cheaper to retrofit an f-22, or two, with LOX than to kill pilots & planes.
@its-andrew-y5 ай бұрын
what a dystopian way to end the video with a “sponsored by viagra”
@larrybaker53162 ай бұрын
isn't that a riot
@bigqwertycat12 жыл бұрын
Not enough air, and not enough room in the jet.
@PchanStitch12 жыл бұрын
Given it's been over a year and they still don't have a clue what's causing it, I doubt that.
@JBC81412 жыл бұрын
Obviously there are contaminates in the oxygen. It can't be anything else. Need monitors to measure all variables in the system. I would think that the engines should not have anything to do with the pilot's air supply.
@courtneygillespie1187 Жыл бұрын
More training..... flying this thing is going tuff but no plane can match it's maneuverability.... like they say it's invincible.
@PchanStitch12 жыл бұрын
Here's the thing: A pilot getting disoriented from hypoxia could potentially plow into a neighborhood and kill dozens, a school and kill hundreds, etc...oh, and there's only 200 or so F-22s out there. THAT is why it's important to fix this issue.
@Mao_tse_tung3 жыл бұрын
It’s the emf electronic warfare devices used causing this
@nicandlucian10 жыл бұрын
that's what happen when the human body is pushed beyond what it can handle, the jet can do a lot more but there's a limit to how much you can push the human body, that's why you are seeing a lot more of unmanned military crafts technology cause I'm sure the military egg heads realize humans have reach they limits and the machines have out surpass human body tolerance abilities.
@blakemosley59657 жыл бұрын
nicandlucian it was the vest they were wearing
@sushilgeorge49898 жыл бұрын
Omg the f-22 ISNT THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLANE ever. People don't even know what military technology is anymore
@Matt-dm2gs8 жыл бұрын
It was at the time this video was made...
@sushilgeorge49898 жыл бұрын
+Matthew Tortolano I mean I guess..
@oneladiesmancookingforbegi70662 жыл бұрын
200 Raptor F-22 Pilots, and Leslie couldn't find ONE who's BLACK
@lMrWongl10 жыл бұрын
It is probably the air coming from the engines that still may have enough resadue to give a pilot hypoxia
@exoticgirl19 жыл бұрын
I am rather thinking of problems with the pressure inside the cabin of plane. One does not get the bends from a lack of oxygen (Kaptain Wilson has been treated in a decompression chamber!), but from a dramatic sudden pressurechange. What if the problem is in the hull of the plane, rather than in the oxygen supply!! I mean, they go from groundlevel to extreme hights in no time, right. If it were the oxygen supply they could easily test that by equipting the men with airtanks.
@challyho63756 жыл бұрын
What's up with the tash looks like he's stuck it on he needs to be told how to grow one or buy a razor
@PaulG.3697 ай бұрын
Just blame it on Putin already
@joshuaacosta81057 жыл бұрын
General Schwartz looks like Spock
@bears8936 ай бұрын
They say Russia planes are equivalent
@AVISIONMUSICTV Жыл бұрын
If the oxygenation system is siphoning air from outside the plane, wouldn't that include the thermal fumes, vapors and exhaust from the after burners? As well as atmospheric gases and pollutants in the surrounding atmosphere? I get that it's filtering the oxygen but these factors have to be taken into consideration. The engineers must have missed these factors.
@hobie16137 ай бұрын
It’s ram air, not air which has passed all the way through the engine where the exhaust gasses would be.
@jordanhess20617 ай бұрын
It seems like a dumb idea to run breathing air through the damn engine first.
@Mao_tse_tung3 жыл бұрын
It’s the planes stealth and anti stealth tech causing it. Looks up the harm of emf on respiratory system
@omniscientnews42918 жыл бұрын
Any updates about this story?
@andrewlaco17764 жыл бұрын
In a free market, Lockheed would scramble to fix the problem and pay the family of the man they killed. But in the M.I.C.......
@Space_Maniac3 жыл бұрын
bruh the OBOGS isn't fixed yet
@ant2fresh1311 жыл бұрын
its like skydiving. when air is comming at u so fast its hard to breathe so if that aircraft is going the speed of sound does it take in enough air?
@FoxWithTheAngels6 жыл бұрын
Every aircraft that can go mach can make them sick.
@cyfense7 ай бұрын
We are in the world that honest journalism is supported by Viagra
@hanselito24162 жыл бұрын
Do you think maybe because your oxygen intake is directly relational to your altitude? "couldn't find a single engineering flaw" what is it people, get some ideas
@archangle11711 жыл бұрын
@TheFlicky0069 why do you think it is "SHIT!". The oxygen issue is not the aircrafts problem but rather the G-suit which has now been fixed. so do you think it's shit because its the stealthest aircraft on the planet, or has the most total thrust for any fighter aicraft ever made, had the most powerfull fighter mounted radar,had the highest sustained turn rate of any modern fightet aicraft or because it mantains a unheard of 80-1 kill ratio in the worlds most advanced air-air exercise?
@sdtommola12 жыл бұрын
i'm no aerospace engineer, but is it possible the capabilities of these advanced aircraft exceed the physiological capabilities of the human body? Is it perhaps not an engineering problem we need to seek, but a physiological limitation that needs to be addressed? What were the pulse oximeter readings throughout a sortie? Did O2 sat rates decline with a particular maneuver or at a particular speed? Is CO entering the system and disrupting hemaglobin's ability to transport O2?
@legiongamers996 жыл бұрын
Didn't it turn out to be the suit that they were wearing and it was squeezing on their chests to hard?
@anonymousraptor32365 жыл бұрын
Sorry
@Nr1from19788 жыл бұрын
So. Did these guys lose their career here after?
@shawnsobczak37006 жыл бұрын
Nr1from1978 you must be from California
@H2oRiz12 жыл бұрын
I would imagine that there are a lot of very smart people working on this problem. They mentioned NASA for one. I'm sure Lockheed Martin is investigating this, or at least they better be. Maybe we need a low tech solution. Why don't they just take with them a tank of compressed oxygen and breath that and see what happens. If every pilot did that and the cases of hypoxia drop down to a normal level, then you know it's the oxygen generator and not the pilots.
@tnekkc12 жыл бұрын
did she get a face lift? I worked on the F22 electronics design, a long time ago.
@user-yq6ud4wz7r4 жыл бұрын
Yo can you give me the plans :D
@VRtechman12 жыл бұрын
Im beginning to think this is just a scam to make Human Pilots seem inadequate in comparison to drones. Eventually the D.O.D. will decide that it's not financially viable to have man Military Aircraft.
@williamzabel20804 жыл бұрын
That general is putting his pilots st unnecessary risk and should be court martialed and the f22 grounded and scrapped.
@pantera29palms2 ай бұрын
Hehe, Leslie Stahl’s bdsm knot….
@saitamasaitamas72715 жыл бұрын
alien tech!! Raptor taking Pilot Life :)
@klawspawski6 жыл бұрын
why not just use regular gas tanks like the one used by divers temporarly until the problem is solved
@admirallive23775 жыл бұрын
Is this a joke or something?
@XrGrimreap3rX9 жыл бұрын
Maybe we've now reached the point where we should completely eliminate the need for a pilot. Unmanned drones are already being used. I reckon it wont be long now until fighter jets don't need pilots. Would certainly make things a lot less complicated as when designing the plane you don't need to take into account the health and well being of the pilot as there isn't going to be one.
@crazycorn48299 жыл бұрын
XrGrimreap3rX As a pilot thats a bad idea.
@godfather40478 жыл бұрын
+XrGrimreap3rX you always need a pilot to engage in dogfights.
@XrGrimreap3rX8 жыл бұрын
Yes, but as planes get more advanced, its going to get more difficult to make sure that the Pilot can actually survive the high G maneuvers. They created those expanding pants ages ago to keep your blood in the upper part of your body by restricting blood flow to your legs stopping you from blacking out, but even that technology is starting to become ineffective. I suppose you could create some sort of zero g atmosphere in the cockpit, but that's impossible at the moment :D
@danielkinney63257 жыл бұрын
They cannot afford to have pure oxygen tanks aboard?
@bootywarrior694205 жыл бұрын
No... Its too expensive...
@thomasodetinape418017 күн бұрын
Well its a POS if it ruins your health.😊
@steveserba776611 жыл бұрын
Have been a guest passenger.
@danielkinney63257 жыл бұрын
Why is she smiling and repeating what they say?
@LynchGaming19996 жыл бұрын
Sponsored by Viagra😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I died because of the irony pilots are have hard times flying get it "hard"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@CptTierOps125 жыл бұрын
“We couldn’t wait to get back on” “But the problem wasn’t fixed, why were you eager to go?” “Cuz we’re pilots” Ok buddy
@amarmirza0811 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha says the guy named "Warpath". Wow.
@princenoah2111 жыл бұрын
The F15 is not fly-by-wire, though.
@hreason5 жыл бұрын
The 15E has fly by wire
@ant2fresh1311 жыл бұрын
maybe bcuz its so fucking fast
@JustWatchingYourVids12 жыл бұрын
Her "tie" is rediculous :). A rope... Really? Haha. As far is the story goes, I don't think these two should be in trouble. Obviously, there is a problem. They fear for their lives more than their awesome career. FIX THE PROBLEM. They want to fly this cool thing. Fix it and then they won't have a problem w/ it. It's a no brainer. Don't be mad at them either. They WANT to fly this for the US. Duh!
@steveserba776611 жыл бұрын
flys like F16 for its size I have heard all about the black spew nothing ever out of F15 piolots about oxygen.