Why China's DeepSeek shocked Wall Street

[@simontam4246]

Happy Chinese New Year. It is free for everyone.

[@starventure]

Year of the snake

[@roro-v3z]

Thank you

[@hanrenfighterjet]

@@starventure most appropriate timing

[@vsportfan8053]

谢谢🙏

[@AprilShowers2023]

謝謝你們

[@Shining237]

Socialism is people before profit. Capitalism is profit before people.

[@williamshaw5388]

And now the United States can see how clearly communism is better than capitalism.

[@Drwnifgop-i6q]

Tell that to all the people who left East Germany as soon as they could

[@leizhang6034]

中国不是东德，东德也不能代表社会主义​@@Drwnifgop-i6q

[@therebel5320]

@@Drwnifgop-i6q it's Germany the problem, not communisim

[@boredparticle0444]

Tell thet to prople who left tiktok for rednote

[@jpentertainmentandgames2984]

Why does it surprise people? Most things are 5X more expensive in the USA

[@billinsf88]

5x would be normal but this is 6 millions compared to tens of billions….More than the norm of 5x😂.

[@Jason-io9zg]

This one is like 50 times expensive...

[@bewitched3912]

Sam Altman wanted seven trillion from global investors reported in February! It cost six million to create; a million times mark up

[@FanaticalFuturist]

We saw this coming SIX MONTHS ago at least so let’s dig in, and see what else is coming to “surprise” the USA tech bros: 1) The US banned the export of powerful Nvidia H100 and B200 AI training GPU’s - meaning China is trying to compete to develop AI models as good as the US’s with about 10% of the compute resources. 2) They took H100’s from gaming machines to bootstrap AI training clusters of around 10,000 GPU versus the US “AI Factories” like Musk’s of 300,000 GPU’s 3) They were the FIRST to figure out how to train Generative AI models across DISTRIBUTED data centers - a MAJOR breakthrough no one really reported on. 4) They discovered that the fourth “rule”to AI scaling VERY POWERFUL AI models is TIME(!) - in this case AKA “Chain of Thought Reasoning” giving Time for the AI’s to THINK about their answers - this is a game changer, it makes small models (EG: 50 Billion parameter models) BETTER than models 3-4x their size 5) You combine (2) and (4) alone and you have superior AI. The US had SO MUCH compute resources and money they didn’t need to push the limits of innovation - the US forced China to out think them because they banned the sale of GPU’s (and now Huawei GPU’s look like they’re getting as good as Nvidia’s so that changes the game again!!!!!)

[@lisarozzz]

People who have test driven it are impressed. Because it’s open people can improve it themselves.

[@SicMundus24]

I already use DeepSeek. It's insanely good

[@clutchk5240]

How have you been using it so far?

[@telescopicS627]

It can't create illustrations.

[@kupis1408]

@@telescopicS627 it's just the beginning, let's see how it evolves months from now, remember this app is open source, people around the world can help improve it from time to time :D

[@Aaron-bh5cp]

@@telescopicS627 Anti-China bot eh?

[@dfv671]

Nearly as good? No. It's better

[@clevergamer6704]

CCP bot

[@slavax7096]

@@clevergamer6704it’s better, bot

[@IndiependentGame]

Especially when you turn on the "Deep think" mode and read its monologue

[@telescopicS627]

It can't generate illustrations...

[@telescopicS627]

@@clevergamer6704 Seriously, there are millions of CCP bots on here today. Google needs to do something about this.

[@yoloyolo3443]

the bubble about to pop open source ftw

[@cYYAN88]

I love how American main stream media is now worried about the users data, but they are no't when NSA has a direct tube to the current American projects lol.

[@ricnyc2759]

Just saying it: "the genie is out of the bottle"...

[@ginosoakoe6016]

A billion dollar in us, we are getting ripped off

[@whereisjustice5112]

US AI companies like OpenAi spend hundreds of billions to develop AI. But China only need less than 10 million USD to develop. Is it got corruption in between?

[@aleksa-77-7]

Is there any doubt that America is deeply corrupt? Look who is President.😂

[@sp4rksmontana486]

Laughing in Chinese

[@Felipe-n3j]

DEEPSEEK is CHINA …Chinese New Year gift to the world for FREE!❤❤❤

[@parthshah7958]

These kinds of videos and reports is what we want from you CBS! Good job

[@UCMpDwp7VEfKXRH3NyAW7kuj]

Happy Chinese new Year year of 🐍

[@newworldorder9891]

There is NO STOPPING CHINA.

[@Felipe-n3j]

Wooo what a funny joke..USA $500 billions AI competing against China $6 millions AI …wooo not bad at all..this only shows how good brilliant young Chinese engineers, mathematicians & scientists are today.😮😮

[@paulb6736]

Cutting debt has been a priority for Trump? In the one week back on the job? What about the $8.3 trillion he added to our debt in his previous turn. Please think before you sputter out talking points.

[@damonkatos4271]

MAGA doesn’t remember more than a few days of Trump actions.

[@HistoscienceAI]

8.3 Trillion debt? America is destroyed

[@CoocooberryJones]

Dump dump dump!

[@k.rarabi1153]

We've got so busy supplying WMD to Ukraine and Israel.. instead of pivoting towards our national priorities and education and jobs training..we're so inclined into the Ponzi scheme style of life

[@triple8331]

Happy Chinese New Years! Thank you China 🎉🎉🎉

[@888YangJi]

The AI race is between American Chinese and Chinese Chinese. And the subject is pure mathematics. Hmm, I wonder which country has more math talents?🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@AnythingJW]

Ah.. guess Trump can't boost the stock market!

[@ilhuicatlamatini]

@4:05 Trump tax cuts will ad $4 trillion to the national debt!!! God he sucks, what a loser.

[@lamofaco8537]

As he throws $500 billion to his tech buddies that do absolutely nothing for the middle class.

[@音押韵]

Happy Chinese New Year

[@mikemagura7064]

Now this is disruptive not BS Trump. How did you let this slip by Donnie?

[@lamofaco8537]

He's too busy dealing with stuff that isn't important. He'd rather be a King than care about us.

[@Madechamp]

Part is because the cost of everything goes up in America

[@bewitched3912]

Sam Altman wanted seven trillion from global investors reported in February, that's over a million times the actual cost!

[@aleksa-77-7]

It is better than anything out there. The American Oligarchy can suck on it for a bit.

[@TechMediaArchive]

This is really good platform 👌

[@ashton272]

No one is asking, will the Chinese sell tik tok

[@Fredles128]

No why would they ever do that. The us is big, but not that big, especially for an attention based economy.

[@therealkingbha]

"Nearly just as good as the one's we are seeing in US" is the watered down version of saying they are as good as we are, with less than half the money spent.

[@habibi750]

Nvidia is the new AOL after today

[@authenticmedia24]

China is Running the World Now 😂😂😂😂 ,, TikTok ,deepsek , Rednote etc'

[@lewisvang1927]

Using DS on my samsung 23😅😅😅 its too good and its true. Save me time looking for best flights..etc😅😅😅

[@testgood9384]

National Security of maga state

[@lvbadboy]

The US should not be buying tik tok

[@torbenjensen5002]

Seems it´s gonna be the internet of rational thinking.

[@b326yr]

That's some Deepshit.

[@telescopicS627]

Because no one on WS or in the media knows what they're talking about.

[@888YangJi]

Xi jinping Happy Chinese new year. This is our gift to the world and to sleepy joe just to slap him on the face.Because he said China would never catch up with US in hightech.

[@mikemagura7064]

If the app will run on slower, less expensive GPU's, welcome to the new world. How fast does it have to be to tell me how many times Trump lies in a day!

[@telescopicS627]

That's fine if you just want to generate text. Generating images and videos is more valuable, which DS can't do.

[@edwardhu1209]

Let us just talk about tech

[@wubinyang8318]

Trump: we need 50% of DeepSeek, and Elon will get it😂

[@JamesPennington-o1g]

Why???? Because Wall Street is arrogant and not that bright

[@brucewang9057]

That's the best way to usher in the "registered" Chinese New Year (part of UNESCO’s Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity)

[@shadowgrandmaster]

Well, this is a wake up call for Americans, who focused and spent all their time, effort, resources and money on woke agendas, promoting LGBTQ and diversity for the last 2-3 decades, while China focused on science and technology, engineering and research and development. The US is no longer the leader when it comes to knowledge and innovation but leads world in greed - granting their CEOs billions in salaries while doing nothing. I'm afraid the USA will never be able to catch up. What's worse is the quality of US education is going down - no emphasis on STEM (science & tech, engineering and math). MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Cambridge, Oxford, etc are all lagging behind Chinese or Asian universities. Why? Their students are too busy protesting and supporting Hamas and condemning Israel, or posting on Tiktok than actually studying.

[@paulb6736]

Right. The technically brilliant orange guy will set things straight.

[@zobenny8290]

美国大学教育依然优秀 这点无可争议 ❤

[@ningnick1728]

You're absolutely right, my friend. When we Chinese are working hard. We're surprised you're still arguing about gender. Is civilization going backwards?😅😊

[@telescopicS627]

Pssst: Their AI can't even generate images. I think you're insanely bias against the West, possibly a CCP troll...

[@ucxb2]

Then why do Chinese students come to America to study?

[@edwardhu1209]

Nearly just as good??

[@khon6339]

10% to the 2nd in command big guy vp donna

[@marcin3136]

This CLEARLY (or ???) proves what I've been saying for a long time... Critical and creative thinking will win with any money (500 B? And...? Who cares?) and this is where the serious fight for Ronaldo and Messi begins ;))) Lets play THE GAME! :)

[@AntiLoyalist]

Ok who'll use it anyway lol

[@baiyufan]

Everyone duh

[@AntiLoyalist]

@@baiyufan Everyone who wants a downgrade lol.

[@Myth520]

Open AI is not open 😅, Deepseek is open AI

[@NothingElseMatter13]

its controlled.. lol.. you can ask about "tiananmen square" or about Winnie the POOH

[@travelswithminky246]

i am your retribution. i am your retrubution.

[@tsts9459]

It's said they did use those Nv chips. But🤫

[@jlamedia744]

The old ones

[@hxi7141]

It’s not whether or not they used Nvidia chips that matter, it’s how many chips they have. And all evidence suggests that they have far less than what OpenAI or Meta have but made a just as good AI, this means maybe no one needs that many chips from Nvidia

[@binchen]

Deepseek does support huawei chips. So Nv chips are NOT must-have.

[@tsts9459]

@@hxi7141 got it.👍

[@BrandedWings]

Gah damn she fine

[@testgood9384]

Overcapacity

[@anniemihn]

People before greed ❤❤❤

[@johnnyq4260]

National security threat

[@paulb6736]

😂

[@damonkatos4271]

It’s open source, you can read the code.

[@hilarymiseroy]

The reason why they crashed is not a cyber attack it's because DeepSeek don't have the chip capacity to match so many new users. The US shares will go back up tomorrow after this sinks in.

[@bewitched3912]

😅 cope!

[@damonkatos4271]

You can run it in your own server.

[@hilarymiseroy]

@@damonkatos4271 That would make it a little intrusive don't you think?

[@telescopicS627]

It also doesn't create illustrations...

[@ELDevaux]

Ask it about Tiananmen Square in 1989

[@johnnyq4260]

Don't like it? Train your own model. It's open sourced.

[@pengzhang5081]

😊❤ 😅 Happy Chinese New Year of 🐍 =spring festival in 2025.1.28 Not 🇺🇸 South Korea 🇰🇷 🇻🇳Europe and uK 🇬🇧 lunar new year in 2025.6 They are different

[@telescopicS627]

@@johnnyq4260 I thought KZbin was blocked in China? Why u here, Wumao?

[@Flynn678]

Happy Chinese New Year 🎉😊it is free for everyone, a gift from China!

[@2018tundra]

Oh, I love Italian. Spaghetti is delicious Mamma Mia.

[@pengzhang5081]

😊❤ 😅 Happy Chinese New Year of 🐍 =spring festival in 2025.1.28 Not 🇺🇸 South Korea 🇰🇷 🇻🇳Europe and uK 🇬🇧 lunar new year in 2025.6 They are different

[@OGsneakerhead81]

Most of the cheap stuff that comes out of China is just that CHEAP AND POOR QUALITY! So I highly doubt that this AI could work with out a powerful chip🤷🏽

[@Csmith_theRuler]

The hardware doesn’t matter.

[@jglg7238]

western mindset.

[@pengzhang5081]

😊❤ 😅 Happy Chinese New Year of 🐍 =spring festival in 2025.1.28 Not 🇺🇸 South Korea 🇰🇷 🇻🇳Europe and uK 🇬🇧 lunar new year in 2025.6 They are different

[@ricoxavier1858]

Such an ignorant comment

[@binchen]

Sour grape. Guess you lost money in Nv stocks.

[@2018tundra]

Oh, I love Italian. Spaghetti is delicious Mamma Mia.