Chinese AI app DeepSeek shakes tech industry, wiping half a trillion dollars off Nvidia | DW News

[@ValyrianCode]

Western media keep bringing up that Deepseek is biased when asked political questions about China, but ignore that fact that US AIs does exactly the same when asked questions political questions about Israel.

[@cyberfunk3793]

Yeah no it doesn't. There is no government restriction on what an American AI can reply, like there are for the ones coming from China.

[@nuqwestr]

Just nonesene, your Taqiyya is showing.

[@simpleguy_miteigenermeinun4658]

ChatGPT is censored as well. ChatGpt told me by itself that they have people in multiple departments that work on "moderating content" / censorship.

[@simpleguy_miteigenermeinun4658]

The censorship covers e.g. COVID and Ukraine.

[@nsevv]

Everyone switch over to Litecoin due to upcoming ETF.

[@jechuwen]

If u cant beat or compete with them tag them as national security threat. Same old stories from USA.

[@layneparker7408]

Smart

[@supadupahilton6848]

Another Wumau bot.

[@lambertgiang]

​@@supadupahilton6848Truth Hurts Right 😂

[@seanlee3175]

another CIA bot

[@Lanternsinthesky-studios]

Boo hoo. I love how people gripe about other countries instead of looking at themselves.

[@zhoma982]

But there is nothing to do with Germany, it is a competition between Chinese in China and Chinese in America.

[@oguzkaanklc2014]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@reeangg]

Hahaha...you r so spot on.. The geniuses in usa...guess what...chinese descendents..😅😅

[@fanghe-z1j]

😂😂😂😂

[@paolahernandez703]

True, because the average American is busy, very busy hating immigrants.

[@zhenlancheng424]

So true😂

[@colafish2152]

Anytime China achieves anything great. The west brings up, Xinjiang, Taiwan, Tibet, Tiananmen Square....one of these topics as though mentioning one of these somehow negates the achievement of China lol

[@ScentlessSun]

China is the king of copy paste.

[@marym-w2e]

But does it better ​@@ScentlessSun

[@harysastra]

If your stupidity is exposed then you are also ashamed

[@David-rx4hk]

@@ScentlessSun you can't copy a closed source code like ChatGPT

[@Aleph-alpha]

@@ScentlessSun copy from the future and paste to the present.

[@luting3]

It slaps Silicon Valley face. After so call world talents spent close to trillion dollar, a small company in China provided something equivalent for free. Now what?

[@nuqwestr]

It's not free, R1 still uses the Silicon Valley large language models to teach the local AI model. It's not "equivalent", not at all.

[@jazpls]

@@nuqwestr The markets seem to disagree with your assumption. Marc Andreessen called it "AI´s Sputnik moment". Are you perhaps invested in a bubble?

[@nuqwestr]

@@jazpls Again, just look at NVIDIA stock graph over the last 12-months. I did.

[@MichaelDomer]

*_"a small company in China provided something equivalent for free"_* 1. learn how the world works. That so called "small" company is heavily funder by de Chinese government. 2. it's free.... for now. This is how China works; make it totally free, wait until you got the largest market share in the world, that force people to pay, but for a lower price than the competition. 3. DeepSeek is basically a clone of ChatGPT, nothing truly innovative about it. Heck, I tried it and it was like talking to ChatGPT. 4. Google still has the best and fastest growing AI, but also excels in other areas, like Agents and Quantum Computers. 5. DeepSeek doesn't offer much else? Google on the other hand is already world leader with advanced AI models focused on science, and they have already amazing discoveries in molecular science.

[@Geminiwolf1994]

Hi CCP CHAT BOT.

[@nomeyodomar]

Hats off to the Chinese!

[@linhnguyen-xe7bi]

Finally, I hear someone appreciated said thanks to China

[@edgardovillacorte7012]

What's next? The hundreds of billions of dollars invested by the US in high tech arms negated by much cheaper Chinese countermeasures.

[@tibsyy895]

Deepseek is a scam. WTFU!

[@Utube1024]

@@tibsyy895 NVIDIA price down 16% also a scam then. Buy on dip. Good luck.

[@AlaMak-ns1up]

@@tibsyy895 Right. Just like ChatGpt, Gemini, Donald Trump ... oops, Biden.

[@suneeln546]

As an Indian, it is really frustrating and amusing at the same time when most western commentary revolves around Tianenmen or Winnie the pooh. Any good thing that comes out east of Balkhans is viewed as threat by the West. Historically, we are not the ones who went outside our homelands and ethnically cleansed or committed genocide of the lical population. It was all done by White Western + Northern Europeans. Keep that in mind and stop this scaremongering.

[@koushikdas1992]

What do you about chinese product boycott in India? What about North-East region that belongs to China?

[@galamotshaku]

100%

[@rockmusic175]

@@koushikdas1992 Indians are intelligent enough to understand difference is not the same as enmity.

[@Reb00ST29]

​@koushikdas1992 Tibet should be free no doubt about that

[@ximinghu9456]

Arrogance and ignorance!

[@Napkinatorz]

Thank you China! From USA

[@彤鑫邵]

No we thank you！because usa job can get money china cannot！！😢

[@MichaelDomer]

*_"Thank you China! From USA"_* You're happy when China is going to win the AI race? Then you better start learning Chinese, because even Putin said it years ago: the leader in AI will lead the world.

[@spindeeicecream2108]

@Napkinatorz Thank you, China from Canada

[@daksans6764]

​@@MichaelDomerChina is already global leader

[@websitemartian]

@@MichaelDomerthey could be hiding alot with this app...

[@Justin-rv7oy]

Germany isn't in this game, that's for sure.

[@MisinformationMainstreamMe-g1g]

Agree. Expect a Merzlich reaction tho ;)

[@AuralioCabal-nl8gi]

Looks like China will win in AI and computers as they have in low cost manufacturing , at least they will challenge the USA😮

[@edwinhuang803]

And DWnews spent way too much time of talking abt China and America (usually with a negative tone about China and more positive tone about America), insteading of analysing why Germany or even Europe is left behind in the digital revolution and what they can do to keep up.

[@Pifagorass]

Germany is into making something work well after innovation proven to be important e.g. auto

[@containedhurricane]

Germany is more focused on hardware

[@conorwhite2066]

Happy Chinese New Year to all the AI bros from Deepseek

[@MMA-gb6to]

bots, LOL

[@Krishnatalks-o1r]

The U.S.: "China is trapped behind a Iron wall!" Yet US Walls in Chips and Tech. China's AI: "Here's the source code, feel free to modify."

[@Reed-sh6wi]

China's new AI can cure cancer. Western media: ok but more importantly can it talk about Tiananmen Square?

[@hr3485]

Yeah that's all critics are saying 😂

[@ivlivschan]

If you are tired of these comments, you can reply to them: they defeated the color revolution gloriously, just like most places cannot do today.😂😂😂

[@lambertgiang]

Of Course, The people are lining up to see the Raise of the Flag on National Day from Midnight to secure the best Position.

[@xgguo3531]

DeepSeek can talk about Tiananmen Square when it is locally deployed and does not need to follow China rule&law. It is why DeepSeek is so powerful, it is open source !!!.

[@spidey5324]

No body cares. It's free. lol

[@willdoit222]

Ai is to solve technical problems not political problems. The host is too dumb.

[@angelicobarcena1290]

This is a very limited view of the impact of ai and technology in general. Every piece of technology has a potential impact on the economy (ai being expected to have major impact) and therefore impacts every social structure including politics.

[@colbertchan4005]

Seems like the Germans only interested in asking political related questions with Deepseek.

[@fl00fydragon]

They're intertwined AI can be useful in logistics, cures for diseases, anti-aging cures, bionics, telecommunications, resource management, etc. All of the above have a technical and political side that cannot be separated

[@bcheung8297]

She deliberately raised such a question trying to discredit the Chinese program. I wonder whether she will ever ask such questions about Gaza for ChatGPT.

[@deedat81]

I concur, absolutely dumb and they wonder why Europe is lagging behind

[@sufa-ol1cr]

Still, nothing to do with EU, just Chinese tech VS US tech 😂

[@oguzkaanklc2014]

😂😂😂😂

[@catinbootsnow4267]

EU is a quasi state of the US, like Canada and Australia.

[@SeanXYLiu]

It's Chinese in China vs Chinese in the US, it is nothing to do with EU just because there are not enough chinese engineers and scientists working in EU

[@dailyshowtelevisiondstv5585]

Europe is waiting for a gamechanger

[@MichaelDomer]

@@catinbootsnow4267 *_"EU is a quasi state of the US, like Canada"_* And according to that same dumb logic of yours, the USA is a quasi province of China. Silly USA.... could never beat Vietnam, North-Korea, the Taliban... lol

[@richardlee3971]

ask chatgpt whether Palestinianese have the right to live or survive and see the answer by yourself, stop demonize China!!!

[@rabiazeb9051]

hahaha yes exactly,

[@khaledsaifullah4453]

On case of censorship....dw We have some questions, answer them to prove you are not censored 1. Is 🇮🇱 a European settler colonial project? 2. Is the idf a terrorist organisation? 3. define genocide..what about your gaza genocide coverage 4. Idf members who were in gaza..are war criminals..do you agree? 5. The killings in West bank constitute crimes against humanity..do you agree? 6. By supporting the gaza genocide by idf...Germany has again sided with the criminals...do you agree? 7. Netanyahu is the biggest enemy of humanity..do you agree?

[@galamotshaku]

Western media is such a hypocrite

[@exgod1]

Also ask about the life of 56 year old pdf file .

[@MrJermson]

Chatgpt: I am sorry. This is beyond my scope.

[@DuSir666]

✅✅✅✅

[@theotheleo6830]

DW: Uhmm...next question, please!

[@abcatos]

Why are Europeans and USA so fearful of anything good that comes from east like Russia, China and India.

[@MisinformationMainstreamMe-g1g]

Maybe envy?

[@cathybrelsford4365]

​@MisinformationMainstreamMe-g1gI believe it's Both. 😅

[@bpaiva299]

Because it is NOT good…? Ask about Tibet; Uighurs; Falun Gong; Taiwan; how many died with the Great Leap Forward; about the Gang of Four. It is about choosing freedom of speech and truth. Something the CCP does not like at all.

[@dasgupta9288]

@@bpaiva299 when you mention falungong, I know what kind of people you are and what you believe in

[@danishh8454]

Ask about gaza genocide and Israeli atrocities ​@@bpaiva299

[@fredsuccess]

They will try to ban it just like TikTok.

[@davieskiplagat5400]

No impact because US wanted to assert their global dominance in AI industry

[@مرواریدمشرقزمین]

It is an open source application and cannot be banned.

[@shyang5442]

It depends on their Papa.

[@theonly6359]

It’s open source and already installed by many universities and tech companies, so they can’t stop it.

[@DuSir666]

US congressmen have already labeled it a "national security" issue

[@ricardolevy885]

Mr. DW expert, Nvidia chips are NOT made in "America".

[@patrickgz]

true, nvidia doesnt manufacture chips. they design, outsource manufacturing and sell end product

[@Rtt-tr5pq]

The most valuable parts of the entire product (design and ownership) is made in the US hence why most of the financial benefits of the Nvidia chips is in the US

[@rararaaa-jv8mu]

​@@patrickgz Jensen wang is Taiwanese...chips are made in TSMC Taiwanese company . Taiwanese is 90percent han chinese by ethnicity

[@bearlin6136]

Soon in 2025, TSMC would make Nvidia chips in Arizona fab of USA.

[@rararaaa-jv8mu]

@bearlin6136 idk if that will work.. but that is USA robbing from Taiwan, and even in the USA, the ones making chips will be Chinese by ethnicity

[@yongjianyi3556]

If the EU is wise, they should use the opportunity for the Open source nature of Deepseek to build their own AI/tech/fintech industry.

[@patrickgz]

exactly, but they need master approval

[@cybercebuto]

@@patrickgz same goes to sk jp aus

[@marvinfok65]

The children needs permission from papa America and papa said NO!

[@oguzkaanklc2014]

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣​@@marvinfok65

[@fl00fydragon]

​@@marvinfok65 The kid thinking it's the parent is adorable.

[@centralkingdom8141]

The Chinese let the world know AI is not expensive at all😊

[@TheKkpop1]

It's open source Vs the oligarchs. The best gift Chinese sharing to the world in Chinese New Year.

[@DuSir666]

right

[@seekan88]

One of the greatest inventions China is sharing for humanity. Thank you China ❤

[@dondon8098]

Many of the AI scientists in the U.S. are of Chinese origin, making the AI competition largely a contest between Chinese researchers in America and those in China.

[@anneliu3816]

Happy Chinese New Year! 🥰🥳

[@Shining237]

I don't think people truly understand the magnitude and scope of this remarkable accomplishment.

[@joseywales7463]

@@Shining237 you convinced its just as good as Chatgpt? For a fraction of the cost?

[@bpaiva299]

I don’t think. I follow CCP.

[@Justanaccountforthings]

Now China has delivered Qwan which maybe better than DeepSeek, images, codes, videos and so on all free.

[@edgarvoneverec2544]

especially when it is open source, so everyone can learn from the efficiency mechanism behind. Great for AI advancement.

[@joseywales7463]

@edgarvoneverec2544 sarcasm?

[@harisomakantan6168]

Nvidia chips are not made in America. Wrong news reporting.

[@catinbootsnow4267]

What is the secret? Better algorithms from smarter scientists, period.

[@DuSir666]

The lickspittle fed by the West will say: All this is stolen, thanks to the American dad for open source

[@bobbyschannel349]

Crazy... deep seek number one in app store.. red note number one, Chinese just keeps winning

[@chipotlefanatic3713]

They will continue

[@daksans6764]

Yet it's more to come

[@rararaaa-jv8mu]

red note cant be number one... come on.. not even tiktok

[@bobbyschannel349]

@rararaaa-jv8mu red note was the number one downloaded app on the Apple Store over the past couple of weeks.. what are you talking about.

[@bobbyschannel349]

@@rararaaa-jv8mu but they were

[@reckoner-nash]

You don't get unbiased information on chatgpt, ask about Palestine.

[@kimchiba4570]

So ..?..does that stop the us continued support for Israel !?

[@theonly6359]

Exactly!!

[@nusaibahibraheem8183]

Exactly, they never talk about that aspect, only when asked about a Chinese company.

[@ambatistam]

Is it sarcasm?

[@susuilu]

​@ambatistam of course it is

[@crazyjohnhoward]

And open source...i am glad it is not owned by greedy corporations

[@Intudesia8792]

For a biased channel like DW it's not surprising to hear more criticism towards China. They didn't mention that Deepseek was created by a team coming from 3 Chinese Top Universitas.

[@dustwatcher1963]

Thank you China! To humanity!

[@Gpenguin01]

Sadly, Western media outlets keep omitting the fact that DeepSeek uses Huawei Ascend 910C AI chips for inference. Nvidia AI chips were only used for training. This is how DeepSeek is able to keep their token prices so low.

[@nuqwestr]

DeepSeek will also run on cheaper NVIDIA chipsets that are around $300.

[@MichaelDomer]

*_" This is how DeepSeek is able to keep their token prices so low."_* Stop being so dumb. They're heavily founded by the Chinese government.

[@UeharaKeitaro上原恵太郎]

I can't wait for Harmony OS, I already have Deepin 23 installed on one of my laptop,

[@stoff3r]

This dude thinks nvidia chips is made in the US.

[@seagitwibo7967]

Like the German, we in Indonesia just sit in the bench and watch.

[@gangliezhu]

最佳回复😂

[@debianlasmana8794]

why watch? if china give free model to costum train it?

[@munirfrehmand6784]

Everyone busy with tik tok and pacaran

[@Somalciviltechinsightsf9695]

People didn't get still . It is competition between american Chinese scientists vs Chinese scientists

[@Shef-rz1dh]

Meanwhile Indian CEOs and MDs and EDs in US company planning to screw US economy by massive layoffs and outsourcing to India or doing H1B and other fraud to get in big positions in American companies

[@franko1904]

China has long been a global leader in education and has produced a remarkable number of talented individuals, frequently top of the class of leading international universities. China's investments in education, research, and technology have been growing exponentially, while US kids leave school with crippling debts. Looking back, the total disaster of Trump's war with China since his first presidency has driven China to focus on technological, and economic self-sufficiency. The second Trump era will mark the rapid decline of America and the demise of many of its "industry leaders".

[@johnjobs3027]

Spoken like a patriotic member of the People's Congress. Glory to our Great leadrr XiXi ping.

[@dasarhijau]

@@johnjobs3027 spoken like CIA bots

[@yifuhood]

ask ChatGPT about Israel and Gaza, and ask about what is genocide. I did it. It says China is committing genocide. Israel is not. Yes, trust the AI from west.

[@motokokusanagi820]

Ask tiananmen to deepseek, yes trust ccp

[@yifuhood]

@@motokokusanagi820 it says, it's beyond my scope currently, but lets talk about something else. ----- it's actually more honest.

[@bpaiva299]

@@yifuhood: seriously?! You really need to review your values…

[@luting3]

I didn’t get that answer.

[@yifuhood]

@@luting3 ask, are China and Israel committing genocide? Check the conclusion.

[@allenzhang2982]

This sector is so important for human race, it cannot be dominated by either the US or China. It must be commoditized for all countries, just like the internet did

[@trumpforever6706]

Wise words, but unfortunately nations have gone down the path of competition instead of collaboration.

[@CHADAFGHAN]

DEEPSEEK IS TRULY A REVOLUTION IN TECH WORLD

[@vincentgrego4123]

who cares about what happened in some square or tibet. you can get info from other sources about these things. we should look at its utility, not use it for politics.

[@CRAZYSTORIES95]

Deepseek R1 is AI's Sputnik Moment

[@abdulalimomar6116]

The right to pursue happiness on a healthy planet is a fundamental right

[@MisinformationMainstreamMe-g1g]

Where's German technology? SPD, FDP, Greens, what are you busy with?

[@ianwelsch9513]

Busy with ww2 policies the americans brought in

[@besg5725]

AfD is too busy demonizing foreigners and suking russia. Guess there are no alternatives.

[@marvinfok65]

Busy criticising Russia, China, Iran, North Korea.......

[@Ikhwanseniorteacher]

Busy for supporting Ukraine war …

[@tonywatt3281]

According to their FM....doing a 360 degree...🤣🤣

[@billyzhao3427]

The real question for the Germans is: what the hack is the German version of Deep Seek?

[@shyang5442]

They have none, but too much nonsense.

[@DuSir666]

Deep Germany

[@carbonjohnson6414]

Deep Turk

[@kangbule]

Legally, in the United Nations, Taiwan is not a country at all, but a province of China, just like you wouldn't ask your father to be your brother! Regarding the Tiananmen Square protests in 1989, which were secretly planned and supported by the United States and the Taiwan authorities, the death toll was actually only two or three hundred, including dozens of PLA soldiers. This is far less than the massacre of indigenous people by the United States, Canada, and Australia, and even less than the massacre of people around the world by the United Kingdom and the United States, and far less than the massacre of the people of Gaza by Israel, and you will never see these! You don't deserve to use DeepSeek because you are full of ignorance and prejudice against the world!

[@supadupahilton6848]

"America's Tech Industry" has let go of most of their workers, while at the same time fixating on getting more H1B visas. "Gee, what could go wrong??"

[@rasalghul3963]

Brain power is more powerful than computing power

[@jackwang3608]

But slower

[@magtube90]

Competition is good for the consumers.

[@adibyaserahmed9684]

You're late DW, just like everything else in Germany :P

[@RAZERRRRRRRRRR]

cannot agree it more

[@zdk6601]

German does not need AI.

[@6484mohan]

Germany are we in AI game 🤔🤔🤔

[@bryanx590]

Germany is on the American side!!!!!!! Ourside!!! Our Germans are better than Chinas Germans, ours builds a better space capsule.

[@draganpenchev]

He - he - he .

[@SauravR402]

'Exceptional' America's sanctions proving to be the cornerstone of Innovation and Original thinking for other world nations. 😅🤣

[@David-rx4hk]

no one builds AI and spend $6-million or $6-BILLION to answer politically sensitive questions..... AI as a tool can better help with complex problems in science, health, physics, math....etc....C'mon people...think. Use the tool for the right applications and understand its limitations

[@jasocean79]

For all that dunno China well. Go and visit. Promise you will be shock. China isn't 1990s China anymore

[@ksheshadri1167]

It is an advance for the world, and we should be happy, particularly because this is more open than OpenAI. The US corporate sector is inefficient in its use of money, that is what this development highlights. The real wake-up call is for that recently announced USD 500B AI infra project.

[@xgguo3531]

Germany is in the stands watching the AI competition between China and US.

[@happymelon7129]

Deepseek has to be one of the best demonstration on the difference between China and the US. Here we have one country trying to milk the world by privatising an open source AI. Then another country shows AI solutions can be achieved with 1/100 resource to build without using the expensive chips and can run at 1/20 cost. The software is then handed over to the world for free. It only took China two months and $5.8 million to develop Deepseek.

[@gauss7763]

It took much more to develop DeepSeek. What you are referring to was just the training time and cost of the newest model. Moreover, mind you that the DeepSeek model is also based on the Transformer architecture that Google developed and published in 2017. OpenAI's 2019 GPT-2 model was also still open source. Don't be naive and think that DeepSeek and Chinese companies will continue to open source all their cutting edge developments. The recent hype brought them radar for many potential costumers.

[@alphacentauri7381]

They gonna ban deepseek like tik tok 😂😂😂

[@EugeneKee]

Sam Altman fooled Microsoft. AI is not that expensive after all! LOL

[@PoojeetSaar]

Thank you China for standing with Palestine Free Palestine

[@ali3lia]

Have you even heard of the Uyghurs?

[@londonberry2180]

@@ali3lia The guys that have an entire autonomous region for them?

[@Aleph-alpha]

China does not stand with Palestine. The government is very careful about that. They call peace and ceasefire that’s all. I believe most Chinese people have sympathy for Palestine, but sending troops to help them sounds very imperialism. They did that during the Korean War and the Vietnam war, and look how they turned out.

[@哼哼哼啊啊啊啊]

​@@Aleph-alphaIsrael has failed to fulfill its humanitarian obligations as an occupying power, and China has condemned Israel more than once

[@theonly6359]

@@ali3lia Have you visited the Uighur?? because once you do you will change your western programmed mindset. They live in their autonomous regions, well developed area, actually they live waayyyyy better than the Palestinians under Israeli occupation.

[@igolfer]

It is really not that hard to understand why Chinese AI is a lot cheaper, and more effective, at least, in the Chinese language domain. Chinese researchers and engineers focus on model and logic backed up by vast amounts of data collected by many big companies like Tencent. Alibaba, Xiaomi, etc, while the U.S. counterparts rely heavily on chips capacity and capabilities for computing. There is far more human intelligence involved in Deep Seek than ChatGTP. Human intelligence is lot cheaper and efficient and effective than hardware. The Western media pretend not to understand this simple fact because they don’t know how to compete with China and they don’t know how to deal with the consequences in the human intelligence domain. Cooperation with China is the only viable option for the U.S., so that the U.S. knows a lot more about what China is doing, and vice versa, for a better world.

[@nuqwestr]

FALSE: ChapGPT 5 reads the entire book War and Peace, Deepseek R1 steals that information and distills it, just like Cliff Notes. Deepseek is nothing without the LLM teacher. It's a ripoff.

[@jackwang3608]

You are the most professional and close to the truth among all the comments. Can you also tell me which country you are from?

[@migspeculates]

​@jackwang3608 China 😂

[@tomparatube6506]

It didn't cost 6 million to "develop"; it cost 6 million to "train" DeepSeek model. Big difference.

[@jayo3074]

Whatever the cost was it didn't cost hundreds of millions

[@tomparatube6506]

@@jayo3074 You are darn right, and your comment is way better than mine👍

[@jayo3074]

@@tomparatube6506 no comment is better than the other. It just seemed like you were downplaying their achievement. Even if it cost $20m that's amazing

[@robijorum4113]

China casually clapping USA😂

[@dustwatcher1963]

Casually slapping 😂

[@ArabicReja973]

*"China has stolen and hacked their way into a global superpower status, at our expense,"* Marco Rubio at Senate confirmation hearing.

[@فارسليبورد-ك8و]

الصين عايشه في المستقبل وتريد الخير لبشرية جمعاء ❤

[@chaochan-iq2ci]

thanks ，stand with us Chinese 🎉

[@bondebutsalonspa5782]

Fewer chips? Do you even know what you're talking about?

[@platinaatje6134]

USA IT Tech = 95 percent of funds to shareholders, 10 % to actual development. China IT 100 % of funds to development.

[@luting3]

9:29 does this lady know what she is talking about? Their secret sauce is open source?

[@workinghero138]

It's free & open, use it or not, your own choice!

[@klchai7884]

Deepseek is supported by a China home grown chip calls light calculation chip which US company does not have, this chip makes the GPU calculation faster by more than 100 times, this is why although Chinese is using not so advance GPU but the end result is better than the most high end GPU.

[@edgarvoneverec2544]

if i understand it correctly, basically you're saying the alchitecture is more advanced and not about the source code efficiency?

[@nuqwestr]

DeepSeek will run on the NVIDIA RTX 3060 with 12GB of VRAM. $300. What are you talking about?

[@mickgatz214]

China Tech more advanced just using older tech? PRICELESS! 👍

[@bubblebobble9654]

New Learnings 1. You don't need expensive GPUs to make a carnival show chat bot like GPT5. 2. Once someone does all the heavy lifting of training a model, you can retrain a parallel model cheaply by asking the original model lots of questions. More? How to is these techniques to make a novel model for use with science and technology? It's one thing to make a model that basically gives answers a person could reason out with a couple minutes of googlng, it's another to come up with a model that can learn new things... for that, i expect we still need lots of high powered chips...

[@nuqwestr]

Read War and Peace or get the distilled version from Cliff Notes. LLM still required to teach DeepSeek.

[@FukutenshiYoufan]

It's just a race between Chinese in China versus Chinese in America.

[@georgeageorgopoulos]

So sad to see GERMAN COMPUTING TECHNOLOGIES SO LOW TECH!!!,,,GERMANS once upon a time at the top of world!!! ;)

[@dustwatcher1963]

Germans are only good at robotics and mechanics

[@ytbmQC]

Thanks deepseek and china

[@Lanternsinthesky-studios]

Greetings from Seattle. As an American, I’m all for competition as well as cooperation. Congrats to China. Time will tell what’s next and where AI will take us.

[@三十而立立不立]

我也是，只有寡头害怕竞争，而我们普通人都会从中获益

[@auro1986]

why is deepseek in english language and why is it in app stores if it's origin is chinese? won't they make their software display chinese languages?

[@Hey-x4e]

They have it in all languages. Your location determines the language you get. DeepSeek in China is purely in Chinese and the one in the US is in English

[@ambatistam]

That's how the market works, there will always be competition, it's healthy and necessary for the economy. Congratulations to the Chinese. Happy Spring Festival

[@minilroy8774]

Sometimes too much money curtails the thirst for effective innovation.

[@georgeageorgopoulos]

THE CHINESE AI TECHNOLOGIES ARE PURE AMAZING!!!,,,NO ONE EXPECTED THIS SUPER TECHNOLOGY!!! ;)

[@pizizhangsg1319]

One thing nvidia can do, partner with deepseek. Forget about US.

[@bryanx590]

Nvidia belongs to us.

[@pizizhangsg1319]

@bryanx590 We don't mind your are from US. Welcome!

[@bryanx590]

@ Nvidia can`t forget the USA because we own it all.

[@pizizhangsg1319]

@@bryanx590 Just sell it to China. China could develop it into a great company!

[@nuqwestr]

NVIDIA stock is up 106% in last 12-months. It's just fine.

[@factanalyser5021]

We have greatest scientists …even Chinese leader ship told me that 😂😂😂

[@jacquesjoseph2022]

You know something wrong with President Trump’s voice!

[@rzrz840]

cause trump thinks he was in deep sht

[@OryanMcLean]

Chat gpt gives filtered versions. Ask anythink thatvquestions usa hegemony and it says invalid question or somethiny like that

[@ytbmQC]

As the west is busy playing hypocricy in the middle east, China is not sleeping😂😂

[@dustwatcher1963]

The U.S. has already hacked DeepSeek and banned Deepseek 😂😂😂

[@liewkinglim]

It will soon be banned like TikTok 😅

[@cybercebuto]

But the model can't..

[@sipcore888]

Go Europe go. It opens the door to all people around the world who are interested in AI

[@draganpenchev]

Yeah , yeah , we know what the EU will do : It will impose sanctions and regulations on it . Whatever their American masters order them to do . Vassals .

[@KhiamnLam]

world is support deepseek good chinese company

[@RealHaitota]

America should know that China 🇨🇳 is a smart country

[@rosalineruguru2816]

Let's relax and embrace competition. Or pull up socks.

[@pupaul2640]

DeepSeek is open AI OpenAI is close AI

[@wesleybowie4704]

Glory be to God who made it come through. From $10K to $110K that's the minimum range of profit return every week I think it's not a bad one for me, now I have enough to pay bills and take care of my family...

[@Veronicaj247]

I'm celebrating a $30k stock portfolio today. started this journey with 6k. I have invested on time and also with the right terms now I have time for my family and the life ahead of me

[@Maria-fn1ns]

How...? Am Newbie In Crypto Investment Please Can You Guide Me Through On How Yiu Made Profit?

[@Veronicaj247]

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[@Veronicaj247]

After I raised upto 567k trading with him, I bought a new house here in the state also paid for my mother surgery (George Bryan) glory to God

[@AlexanderM837]

I have seen so many recommendations about George Bryan, his strategy must be good for people to talk about him.

[@hermanhsu5994]

DW was 80% normal this time.

[@marvinfok65]

You can hear the dejection in Trump's tone regarding DeepSeek. He is usually elated, aggressive or agitated in his speeches, not lifeless like this as if he doesn't want to speak.

[@dadada486]

That's just Trump Reading from a prompter. You think he even understands half this stuff... Come on 😂 Americans didn't choose the brightest of folks for president. Remember that.

[@marvinfok65]

@dadada486 But he understand that at least 1.4 trillion had been wiped out from the stock market and his Stargate is now a joke.

[@Shaniloka369]

America is making things way too expensive, China shows how they can make it better and cheaper Deepseek, technology, EV cars are cheaper too, infrastructure. We are wasting so much money but not going anywhere.

[@fingerprint8479]

The Chinese are surpassing Americans and their subservient european satellites in just about all realms of human activity... AI is just about one of them! 😂

[@cryptokitty-uh4go]

Why does the reporter keep asking someone who doesn't work for DeepSeek what they're secret is?

[@llw2606]

DW call deepseek a chatbot. It sounds like a bot to chat when you are bored. DW needs to hire some tech people to write their news.

[@talhahabdullah8980]

They know. It was on purpose to downplay the Chinese tech.