Vortex PST II 3-15x44 VS Meopta Optika6 3-18x50 Side by Side Optic Showdown!

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These 2 scopes are so similar on paper, they make you wonder just how different they can be. Well as it turns out. They both have their own unique way of taking care of business.
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[@CDOES]

Which would you choose, and why?

[@larrydecker881]

I don't own either, but I'd choose the Viper. The image was more consistent and the reticle was much better. :Edit- i did purchase a optika6 4.5-27x50 and was not impressed with it

[@arkanraznatovic3008]

Meopta.

[@CDOES]

@@larrydecker881 Very interested to hear what you didnt like about the O6 you had.

[@larrydecker881]

@@CDOES the optika6 4.5-27x50 with Z-plex reticle overall feel and build quality is good. The turrets are tactile without being so aggressive that you risk over running them. I also like the aggressive texturing and oversized controls. I didn't do any box testing or enough rounds down range to judge tracking accurately. The glass is were it under performed the most for me. It struggled to focus sharply at anything beyond 150 yards and the eye box was terribly tight. Image brightness and clarity was equal to optics in the $199-$350 price range. This optic taught me a lesson about chasing glass in optics under $1000 price point. This model is made in China, and the glass is on par with other entry level Chinese optics, except for build quality. It felt SOLID, very similar to the defunct Crimson Trace Japanese optics.

[@slipknnnot]

@@larrydecker881 sounds like you don't have much experience with the scope to judge. You will have different impression of the glass during changing conditions but nothing in this scope is Chinese. It's made in Czech Republic and everyone I ever talked to had nothing but praise for the Meopta optical quality for the money. You can clearly see it in comparisons. Your review sounds a little off and disingenuous in my opinion

[@gunube]

Stumbled upon your channel and what I found is the most useful information in the most efficient manner. Thank you my friend for making great videos.

[@CDOES]

👍 Pew Pew.

[@commonsense5709]

Thank you for another fantastic scope comparison. Your scope cam set up is the best on youtube.

[@sat_homeless]

I have never seen such a detailed scope video. Thank you.

[@Magicalamazing]

This is a fantastic format for this type of thing. Great comparison and very well thought out video!

[@CDOES]

Thanks mate!

[@user-un5my5bw4j]

I have been building rifles for 8 years now and i also shoot 1000yd bench rest. Over the years of different optics i can tell you Meopta is one of the clearest on the market with excellent field of view that track 100%, hold zero and stand by there warranty. Infact i own 4 of them and in clarity i actually like it better than the Nightforce Competition on my f open rifle. Only scope i ever used that is better is my March X 8-80×56mm on my light gun class benchrifle but it also cost $3k more too. Meopta blows vortex out of the water too

[@CDOES]

I've been using my O6 more recently. It doesnt fail to impress

[@shaolinwarriormark]

What rifle are you using with meopta6, ar15?

[@lilylove55]

What’s your comparison between the O6 5x30x56 vs the leupold mark 5 with same power?

[@kendavis1607]

Outstanding work. Your reviews are among the best I've seen. Real quality work. Yours was a contributing factor to the purchase of a Delta Stryker 1x6. Now I find myself hunting deals on the Meopta. Keep up the good work! Hoping you do a review on the US Optics TS-12 and/or 20.

[@CDOES]

Better late then never! Thanks mate. I'm got some. Older us made uso's in. Nice stuff

[@justsnuggle]

Great Camera work, and review. thank you

[@tar6805]

Thank you, an actual video of scope views and no drywall shooting or water bottles.

[@calebh2642]

c'mon youtube! only 9k views. this is the best scope comparison i have ever seen and should be used as a source for many to make their decision

[@tar6805]

Best video ever. Finally a proper looky see at the actual images, not blasting drywall.

[@jmac6242]

Thank You. This is hands down, the very best comparison review I've ever seen. As far as choosing between the two, it is the Optika for the brightness in any hunting scenario...

[@xxtwattwafflexx1]

I love these videos, keep it up, great reviews.

[@CDOES]

Pew Pew!

[@dirklabuschagne473]

Best Glass comparison video.!! Should do more of these.. Like the Zero Compromise vs Tangent Theta☺

[@CDOES]

When I can find someone willing enough to give me a $4k optic, absolutely! hahaha

[@user-bb4yc9ln2w]

Thanks. Fantastic review

[@The_Northerner]

Incredibly well made video man.

[@CDOES]

Thank you kindly!

[@thor-andrewang983]

Well done! Rly nice information 🙌

[@PitFitHuntFan]

Agree with what you said about the magnification. Shooting off hand i use 2x on targets within 30meters and Shooting beyond up to 100meters as i shoot mostly rimfire, i use 4x Max maybe 5x. I get consistent off hand hits this way. Using anything over is only good for assisted Shooting. Usually my max mag of choice on my variable power scopes is anywhere from 10 to 20x. Only bought a 6 to 24x once and have since never used it. Have a hard time using the 6x for fast off hand shots and too much wobble and too much time to control that movement for me at 24x even at the bench.😁

[@bondithehun]

Best optic glass comparison review and i watch heaps

[@rtrisel14]

Great review comparison 👏 TY

[@CDOES]

Pew Pew!

[@jodytucker4474]

If you go to 8:09 in the video, it seems to me that your camera is farther back on the meopta, look at the Christmas lights. So that would make the field of view smaller on the meopta!! Just my observation!! I just purchased a meopta over vortex!! I went to buy a new scope, vortex, asked to look through it, then he handed me the meopta. Pretty substantial difference in glass and clarity, same warranty, so I got it!!

[@josiahb55]

Thanks for the review! Optika6 for me

[@CDOES]

Pew Pew!

[@Jamesy1993]

Fantastic vid. Very very interesting. Please keep them coming 😉

[@CDOES]

Will do. I really like how this came out.

[@CntBckt]

I just asked for a comparison in the comments of your older Razor video and here it is. Lol

[@ryszardkoprowski1414]

I have allready bought a Meopta Optika 6 4,5-27x50 SFP BDC 3. It can NOT be compared with any Vortex scope below newest Razor series - mayby. Rather Zeiss Conquest HD, Delta Stryker. In Europe in this price range one could barely buy cheapest Vortex Viper PSTII series scope. An optic crap. As user of many good optics I have to admit, that our friends from Czech Republic have hit the market with almost sub-premium optics in mid-budget price. Pros: glass quality (reslolution, zero problems with low sun, light transmission, contrast, sharpness, natural colors) - all up to almost highest magnification with low AC. At 27 x is still very good. Mechanics!!! Turrets & cliks&zero stop! Ilumination of central point - very crisp. Cons - not spoted yet.

[@ddyoder]

I agree certain lines of Meopta Optika 6 series are very strong. Similar to Delta Stryker HD line --- both EU-based, high value, premium glass + feature options that are proven abroad and seem "newer" to US-based clientele. Excited to see them deliver and challenge domestic offerings so products keep getting better due to strong competition.

[@walldogger1]

@@ddyoder Competition is the best thing going for customers. If it wasn't for competition, we'd be paying $ 40,000 for Ford Pintos.

[@rolandgeorges960]

Did you know: Meopta makes different Zeiss scopes to Zeiss specs. Meopta is the largest scopes/optics maker in Europe, they use Shott glass, the highest standard glass used by Smith & Bender, Swarovski & the likes. All Meopta optics are made in Western Europe.

[@commonsense5709]

@@rolandgeorges960 Sure doesn't look like it especially if the 3-18x Optika 6 has chromatic aberration.

[@Custompro36610]

Great review, congratulations!👌🏻. We have been seeing the Meopta Optika6 1-6x24 RD FFP for some time with that high turret that attracts a lot of attention, but like me, many people do not have information about this LVPO. If you do not bother, I could ask you if you can, take it into account and if you can, do a review of the Meopta Optika6 1-6x24 RD FFP. We will be attentive, because it seems to be of quality. It is also made in Europe and I like that, but there is no review or in Europe, nor in the US. I send you a hug. Thank you

[@naturestrail2296]

How does the meopro optica 6 look compared to the meostar R1 & the R2?

[@hauckjohn]

Another option for us .308 shooters to consider, might be the Meopta Optika5 2 - 10x42. It has a 30 mm tube.

[@CDOES]

I Wish the Optika5's were FFP

[@Quality_Guru]

I completely understand Field of View angle, and I can see the difference at timeline 7:24 in which the PST shows more of the length of the electric pole . What I don't understand is why is the circle for the Optika scope shown in the side by side comes up as much smaller. Does it have a smaller ocular size? In regards to sharpness you can really see the difference at timeline 11:51 in which you can see that the blue house has siding and on the PST it just looks like it's just blue paint. Also the tree limbs and leaves are much sharper on the Optika. The Optika scope looks like a winner to me.

[@sethrich5998]

Hey, Liked the “VS’s” format. Another one that would be very interesting is this Optika6 3-18x vs. the LRHS-2 4.5-18x. GAP Precision is bringing back a private labeled LRHS except with upgraded ED glass and it’s still under $1k. Looks like phenomenal value, and with a similar horseshoe G2H reticle is a very similar competition to this Meopta.

[@CDOES]

I would like that as well

[@rudolphferdinand3634]

My choice is Vortex 4/5 optics where three are scopes, two PST Viper 3-15x SFP and FFP; the FFP picked up for $600. And, I can purchase from Vortex with a 40% veterans discount with free shipping.

[@IoGane]

Somebody can help me make a decision, I was thinking of buying meopta 3-15 x44 or meopta 4-20x 44, I have a 3-9x42 scope but after a while my eye get tired at shooting targets at 100 m, I am interested to shot at 100-200 meters or beyond that if possible at targets and maybe hunting too, which to buy?

[@Travelingforlife]

In the range of 3-15x44 and this price range, which company do you think is best? I need to watch more of your videos. The Optica is so bright and clear glass!! Well-done video!!! Man I love that you show us though the scopes!!! This clearly helps to make an even better selection!!

[@commonsense5709]

Save a just little more money to buy the Tract Toric instead. It's a far superior scope with absolutely perfect glass and zero chromatic aberration at its highest magnification. You'd have to spend at least twice the money to buy anything better.

[@Travelingforlife]

@@commonsense5709 thank you!

[@KaneGregory]

Man as a owner of both also the Meopta by a mile vortex glass is only good if it says razor on it!🤯🔫✊🏿

[@jameskemp5911]

The Meopta for me, lovely glass and sharper and brighter, absolute no brainer in my opinion

[@robtaylor893]

You said there’s cheaper options than these that are as good or almost Can you name one or two please?

[@Dustysa4]

Very interesting and a good pair to do a "versus" comparison video on. To summarize the strong points of the glass in each, based on my observations, with your guidance... PST: - More contrast - Better FOV - Less CA fringing (goes against your statement, but based on what I see in this video the Optika has more purple fringe) Optika: - Brighter (Likely what makes purple fringe more apparent to your recording device) - Sharper - Better depth of field - Better edge clarity when erector isn't centered I have 2 Viper PST G2's, but I'm not a brand loyal type person. The one area I've felt my 5-25 lacks is sharpness. I had my eye on the bigger Optika 6, and while it is a little bit better based on this comparison, I'm wondering if you can recommend a step or two beyond the Optika 6. Other scopes on my list to be investigated are the Burris XTR III and Athlon Cronus. The XTR Pro and Razor II are past what I'm wanting to spend (>$2k). Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. They're very good.

[@commonsense5709]

I'd recommend buying the Tract Toric ELR instead. I have the Cronus BTR and the Tract Toric ELR is optically and mechanically a noticeably better scope given the same price point. Even the Trijicon Tenmile 4.5-30x56 is better than the Athlon Cronus BTR and is in sale right now for only $1050 for the SFP model at Scopelist and Euro Optic while all other dealers currently sell these SFP models for $1700 - $2000. It's a $2755 MSRP scope. You'd really be surprised what kind of scope covers are included too. Their Tenmile 4-24x50 SFP are also on sale for $780.

[@commonsense5709]

I'd rather pay a little more andvchoose a Japan made scope over this specific Optika 6 model and Vortex PST 2 to be honest. The chromatic aberration is unacceptable for either of these 15x or 18x scopes in this price range.

[@brileymorneau5967]

Hey love the video, but would you be able to do a comparison video or an in depth review of the Meopta 6, Burris xtr iii 3.3-18x50 , and zeiss 4-16x50 With availability up here in Canada it’s hard to make an in person comparison

[@Hehanni]

Any plans to test a Swampfox? I went with their 1-10x but my primary hesitation was I hadn’t seen your review on it

[@CDOES]

I recently bought one for testing. Videos to follow soo

[@aslanbosnakoglu8240]

you need to review meopta meotac. is it even available in the u s and a?

[@kalashniben9005]

interesting -- at the powerbox the magnification seems the same but the pst's image is far larger so you can see more -- similar to the 4x acog and its nutty fov

[@HWill-iq9sl]

Very nice so what 26M keep up good work

[@tonyenglish5153]

What reticle is this he's showing for optic 6? There's several and Im looking for the illuminated with the inverted half circle like in this video. Is it just the MEOPTA Optika6 3-18x50 30 mm SFP Second Focal Plane?

[@liaxnoelle]

FFP MRAD

[@matthewpahl7516]

Please review the Meopta Optika 6 5-30x56 with MRAD reticle! Great job on this !

[@bryanscott8675]

Interested in the 5-30, also!

[@benlastname6667]

I may consider this optika6 for a 308 20" tikka t3x tact a1. I looking at this pst -15 but I have some things to consider now. Wish SWFA made something higher than -9 but not -20

[@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595]

SWFA makes a 3-15 but it’s only available in mil adjustments.

[@commonsense5709]

SWFA have really good affordably priced Japan made scopes but no illumination and no zero stop.

[@compcast]

Wonder how the Leupold VX-3HD 4.5-14X50 compares

[@michaelthrelkeld212]

That field of view at least through your camera seems like a pretty big difference. Then from what I’ve heard from friends they have had issues with trying to deal with Meopta’s customer service. Vortex on the other hand, well doesn’t get any better.

[@inlandbhsk8r]

Hey I just commented on your Arken SH-4 video. I'd like to send you a scope for review that I was not able to find much on so I\I went ahead and bought it. I think I'll eventually put up a review but I think you could do one faster and better than I and get the info out to potential buyers. Is there any way to get in contact with you to set it up?

[@CDOES]

That would be sweet. What did you end up getting? Honestly the best way to reach me is on my Patreon.

[@inlandbhsk8r]

@@CDOES riton tactix 1-8x24. I think it was the x3? The middle of the road option

[@gnarl12]

Thanks, however some PST Gen 2s are $250 less than the comparable Meoptas now. Is it really $250 better?

[@commonsense5709]

Sport Optics has a 16% off European scope sale including their Meoptas.

[@braddevendorf9901]

My perspective the Op6 has a few significant deficiencies and one deal breaker that I can not live with. The edge fringe (vignette) really bothered my eye especially with the limited FOV (to much tunnel vision with blurred edges on Op6). The mirage is more noticeable too on the Op6 at higher magnification. As mentioned before, FOV is very restrictive on the Op6 for my shooting needs. Wider FOV, less vignetting on the PST is more important to me than slightly better center clarity of the Op6. But the PST is pretty darn sharp across the whole optic plane, while the Op6 bothers me with edge focus drop off. No excuse for just center illumination on the Op6 versus having the complete vertical and horizontal illumination on the PST. The big deal breaker why I would not get the Op6 is the poor reticle design. No vertical distance marks for hold unders. With a 100 or 200 yard zero and you want to engage a 25- or 50-yard target, just adjust using the reticle quickly inside of the optic. You can’t do that with the Op6 at all. I can’t believe you did not discuss this problem with the reticle on the Op6. I have two Meopta scopes and love them and they have some of the best glass for the price. Got my first Meopta scope over 30 years ago. With all this said I just picked up the exact same Vortex Viper PST gen2 EBR-2C scope for $550. Can’t beat it for the price. Keep up the great work you are doing with your reviews.

[@gnarl12]

Hey you and I got the same PST GEN 2. If they were the same rlife it would be hard but the Viper can be had for $250 less due to some reticules getting redesigned.

[@commonsense5709]

Where can the 5-25x56 PST 2 be purchased for $550?

[@commonsense5709]

Sorry where can the 3-15x44 PST 2 be bought for $550? Cheapest I seen was from Midway $599 and $679 for the 5-25x56.

[@LongRangeHD]

Do the Viper PST vs the Arken EP4. Around the same price point and have the same warranty.

[@rickrazz7136]

The Arkens are too heavy for hunting otherwise good scopes

[@StayFrostyR9]

You should also check the Meopta Optika 6 5-30x56 too many people wondering how it is.

[@commonsense5709]

I have yet to see a good review on this specific model.

[@F15ElectricEagle]

I stopped the scene at 8:54 and I believe the optics of the Optika 6 is better than the PST 2. 1. The image is slightly brighter in the Optika 2. There is some chromatic aberration (slight violet haze) around the edges of the objects in the outer 7:30 clock position of the PST 2 3. The image of the objects in the Optika looks a bit sharper and their color contrast more clearly than the PST 2.

[@CDOES]

The main thing the PST ii had over the O6 is the view size through it. The O6 has earned a permanent spot on my ruger.

[@F15ElectricEagle]

@@CDOES - Agreed. 90% of my shooting are paper or metal targets at known distances so F.O.V. is not an important factor for me. Having scopes with very high quality lenses and coating that can produce bright and sharp images is a must for me since hitting 50 my vision is not what it used to be.

[@CDOES]

@@F15ElectricEagle You have certainly found a good match my friend.

[@roytorres422]

👍

[@albertducharme2003]

meopta. I have one ZD TACTIC. neopta are Awsome scopes

[@rolandgeorges960]

I have both, hunting hogs when the sun goes down; the Meopta is miles ahead.

[@chrisdewet4384]

What is your opinion....3-18 or 4.4-27 Meopta's? Which one would you buy?

[@CDOES]

It solely depends on the intended usage. 3-18 for practical and positional shooting inside a certain distances. 4-27 for anything that will require longer shots, better target comprehension, or just tighter groups.

[@chrisdewet4384]

@@CDOES I bought the 4,5-27 today for my 308, but wanted the 3-18 with vertical exposed turret. I want to hunt and shoot paper :)

[@commonsense5709]

@@chrisdewet4384 What's the highest magnification setting before it starts to have chromatic aberration?

[@chrisdewet4384]

@@commonsense5709 I have none of that what so ever. Great scope. Mirage though due to the intense heat here in Namibia make longer shots( 400 meters plus) really challenging

[@jebradshawjr]

LOVE the content sand info THANK YOU…but the voice-over or whatever was going on that didn’t seem in try sync with hand motions made me feel like someone was doing sign language translation…not so odd I could handle it but a distraction.

[@z06ix]

Meopta, I have three of them going on four....Clear, bright, and sharp... enough said, and cheaper....best bang for buck....

[@juanherrera2672]

it almost seems like the power setting is off from the other cause at max power the optika objects look bigger

[@CDOES]

The optika is a 18 while the PST is a 15. I put them both at 15. Then show off the optika max

[@juanherrera2672]

@@CDOES DUH that makes sense. I should have payed more attention . 👍👍👍

[@mykesinger]

Really li6e the FFP Optika6

[@17_jager37]

Imma buy the optika

[@naturestrail2296]

Is the Swarovski z5 advantage only being about half the weight or is it much better optically as well?

[@commonsense5709]

I would highly recommend buying a March with the High Master system over the Zeiss when paying for any scope that cost $3500 or more. They are fantastic scopes and are hand assembled and inspected with extreme perfection and pride. MARCH is the only brand that is actually worth paying full price for IMHO.

[@cristiancanalesm.6946]

Meopta Optika6 5-30x56 has ED Glass, it could be a better comparison.

[@commonsense5709]

I'm still waiting for a good honest review on this one as well.

[@rickrazz7136]

One problem. The comparison of price is currently Vortex $180 more than the Myopta, if that matters.

[@commonsense5709]

$599 at Midway for the Vortex. Someone else mentioned $550 but I'm waiting for a reply on where.

[@calebh2642]

choice has to be the optika that glass is soo good i cant help but wonder how the 56 looks like

[@hauckjohn]

I have been using the 56 "Artimis" for years. I belong to a shooting club and most of the hunters think it is a night vision scope.

[@JV-ly2cq]

Here in Europe the Vortex is >1000€ brand new and the Meopta is 600€.

[@FreakiMuffin]

Thats the problem with imported stuff they always are more expensive than the american msrp.

[@widipuji972]

Try at Bushnell elite tactical 😁😁

[@commonsense5709]

Their warranty sucks.

[@commonsense5709]

I'm really worried about all of my Bushnell scopes now if they ever break.

[@tar6805]

I love my tact elite dmr ii pro g3, dated yes but a tank all the same. And the best warranty is one you never use, jmho.

[@malikbahri3749]

49k views and only 736 likes ? Please, guys !

[@lukefoster3550]

If you are comparing the field of view shouldn’t you compare it on the same power .

[@brikeswardebbarma4029]

Viper pst looks clearer reticle to me

[@Internaught-The-Wise]

My it's my video quality but the vortex looked better image vs image

[@slipknnnot]

I got a Bushnell xrs ii over these paid $800 for it

[@CDOES]

Im trying to get my hands on some Bushnell options. They definitely have my curiosity!

[@tar6805]

@@CDOES I picked up a Bushy Tact Elite dmrii pro 3.5-21x50 on super sale and it is great! Older looking but function and glass and ret are brilliant.

[@CDOES]

@@tar6805 I've been hearing they are excellent. And the ones to get

[@tar6805]

@@CDOES Watch out for dmr 3 or xrs 3 they are not Japanese but Chinese like all Bushys starting 2023:(

[@lidijabacic8348]

the resolution is not even close

[@towarzyszbeagle6866]

Made in Czech Republic or made in China? Not a hard choice really. Meopta make amazing scopes for the money.

[@CDOES]

That they do!

[@volkssturm9694]

ummm , no The PST gen 2 is made in Philippines .

[@ErickSommers-dc6pl]

It's obvious you are affiliated/bias with Meopta, the Vortex, surprisingly destroyed this comparison if you know what to look for, what is more concerning to me is that I suspect you may be trying to intentionally put the Meopta on a pedestal regardless of actual performance, maybe they gave you scopes to review, not sure. The evidence the vortex is better? You only need to see (two) parts of the video to illustrate my point. 12:00 onwards within the same scene shows your parallax for Meopta adjusted for optimal range for the house in view you are trying to show, whereas the the Vortex is being dialed in to look bad on purpose, not only is the Vortex in this picture clearly parallaxed incorrectly, you'll notice the power lines you described at about 30 yards. They have much more detail than the Meopta, why? Because you put the parallax between 100-250 yards on a 300+ yards objective and instead of showing that the Vortex has better detail and workability than the Meopta, you choose to ''push it'' like you are making money off the sale. I'm sorry, but make a new video posting the same Meopta vs Vortex video and show the true difference, your audience will appreciate the truth more instead of pushing sale. I am also from NY and I notice the NY/Jersey attitude. Drop it, folks interested in these things aren't type same type of liberal folk you are trying to sell your gabagool. Work the parallax correctly and do a fair review and maybe your content will be useful. P.S @c_does Also, did you not clearly see the meopta tracking that you do? The son of a bitch was off by 1/4-1'' with every windage adjustment. Surprising considering Meopta is supposed to be made my March which is a fantastic company.

[@reddawng43x91]

Vortex in general is way over rated! From the $100 scopes all the way up! They not as bright and clear as other brands like leupold , burris, night force , zeiss, meopta to name a few ! You can’t tell scope clarity in a damn store ! You absolutely can not! That’s a fact

[@squib3083]

I think you’re being too nice to the vortex. Their glass blows.

[@modernrambo2]

Then what would you choose?

[@lidijabacic8348]

vortex is made in asia, optika is made in europe from some asian parts and european glass

[@dk418]

Optika while decent, doesn't hold a candle against Vortex Razor, which is made in Japan. Most of the best scopes use Japanese glass or is made in Japan. Only Germany and Austria can compete on quality of best Japanese glass, but even then not on price.

[@jason200912]

is field of view just a fancier way of saying less zoom

[@sethrich5998]

No, different optics have different Field of View (FOV) at the same magnification. All optics have the FOV get smaller as you zoom in, and larger as you zoom out. However how much FOV you have available to begin with is dependent on the design of the optic.

[@freemind9734]

Meopta all day! Meopta = Czech Repulic Euro glass maker for other high end scopes Vortex = CHINA so you will be needing that warranty

[@deltadawgz6865]

Vortex sucks made in china as well re stamped with us made

[@commonsense5709]

The Viper PST 2 is made in the Philippines. The Strike Eagle, Venom, Diamondback Tactical, Crossfire 2 and below are made in China. What really shocked me is their Razor spotting scope suddenly and unexpectedly were no longer Japanese and made in China and I am not 100% certain if any Razors are still made in China or will be switched to Chinese in the future. Same with Leupold and Burris spotting scopes I was really shocked to find out they were Chinese too.

[@commonsense5709]

I try to avoid Chinese made scopes whenever possible and will never ever again pay full price for any rebranded Chinese made scope. I've been and still am a real sucker for smoking deals on Chinese made optics though whenever they are on sale for 40 - 60% off though. Most people simply don't realize how cheap the Chinese can actually manufacture any scope from Pinty and Center points to WestHunters to Monstrom Tacticals to Element Optics to Vortex and Athlon Midas Tac, Ares BTR and ETR and Hawke Sidewinders and Frontiers including ridiculously cheap Chinese materials and slave labor for pennies on the dollar in the P.R.C. I wouldn't be surprised if the cost to manufacture a scope in China is anywhere between $20 and $100 which they resell for $45 - $1259. I have had my fair share of overpriced Chinese made junk scopes from well known popular brands as well so just remember that while some Chinese scopes are decent, there are also real dogs in the bunch of Chinese scopes that you might get burnt on if you listen to the hype from the brand loyal shills out there and all those reviewers who are only out to only make a profit or commission from your sale.

[@tar6805]

I refuse to pay any money to prop up China if at all possible.