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Celebrating Aviation with Mike Machat

Celebrating Aviation with Mike Machat

Күн бұрын

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@rileyk5628
@rileyk5628 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that no Boeing clippers have been saved is incredibly devastating; after travelling to Hawaii as a little kid and seeing so many photos and promotional images from way back when featuring these Pan Am clippers... it's honestly shocking how such a legendary aircraft does not exist anymore.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@stephenrickstrew7237
@stephenrickstrew7237 3 жыл бұрын
If I was a Tycoon I would own and travel the world on a Clipper …. Or a PBY
@miklosernoehazy8678
@miklosernoehazy8678 2 жыл бұрын
@@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 don't lose heart... ...there is a full size replica, built from original Boing blueprints, and it is on display at the Foynes flying boat and maritime museum in Ireland...
@timorvet1
@timorvet1 2 жыл бұрын
@@miklosernoehazy8678 Maureen O’Hara was Patron of the Museum until her death in 2015, and there are many personal items of hers on display.
@miklosernoehazy8678
@miklosernoehazy8678 2 жыл бұрын
@@timorvet1 ..cool factoid!...
@ericmkendall1
@ericmkendall1 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, the only action the YB-49 flying wing saw would be the single sortie in which one example dropped an atomic bomb on the nest of Martian war machines outside Los Angeles in the 1953 film version of "The War of the Worlds."
@williamjordan5554
@williamjordan5554 3 жыл бұрын
Northrop's flying wing research came in handy when Northrop developed the B-2.
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 3 жыл бұрын
That was all stock footage.
@scottrichardson8158
@scottrichardson8158 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't a hydrogen bomb as usually defined; but I am sure it was a more developed than the WWII atomic bombs. Was it a "boosted" design? What was the yield? Obviously not enough as the Martian war machines were not stopped but still of interest.
@ericmkendall1
@ericmkendall1 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottrichardson8158 A radio reporter on the scene had this to say: "Now, we've been warned that this bomb is ten times more powerful than anything previously used, it's the latest thing in nuclear fission. Nothing like this has ever been exploded before..." It might conceivably have been a "boosted" weapon. It was almost certainly not a legit hydrogen bomb. The first US hydrogen bomb test had only taken place the previous year, and the Teller-Ulam device detonated in November 1952 was not really a practical weapon. Those would only come a few years later.
@goldtutch
@goldtutch 3 жыл бұрын
oh wow heh
@RM-we7px
@RM-we7px 3 жыл бұрын
Avro Arrow just a dagger in the hearts of Canadians.
@n2uid01
@n2uid01 3 жыл бұрын
I believe those Orenda engines could have pushed the Arrow close to Mach3. Mike knows the 2 books relating to the Arrow. Look for, Fall of the Arrow by Murry Peden.
@deltavee2
@deltavee2 3 жыл бұрын
@@n2uid01 I'd read it but I'd just get mad all over again. Dief should be dug up and shot just to make sure then buried face down for the usual reason. Just rhetoric of the outraged. Pay it no mind. :\(
3 жыл бұрын
The canadian government killed the project but saved its memory. It wouldn't have been that praised if it was left to agonize as a dated design. Remember that it rolled out at the same time Russia sent Sputnik, thus announcing ICBMs were going to be the main strategic force. Usage as an ASF would have been impossible. Low level deep strike and reconnaissance not plausible for the defensive RCAF, and also probably impossible because low level high speed is quite stressful. It killed the Vickers Vaillant. The CF-105 would have been a costly tool to escort a couple of maritime patrol planes, and keeping it would also have been a boondoggle,. Remember, the quite analogue XF-108 was also terminated. Fast interceptors did live a little bit longer in the USSR, but moslty because of the SR-71, and then because it's a good thing to have fast recon
@ABrit-bt6ce
@ABrit-bt6ce 3 жыл бұрын
Post WWII USA. Don't make your own stuff just share your own knowledge with us. Buy our stuff. No we're not making that stuff buy our other stuff. Repeat until no other aerospace industry exists. Americans.
@dellawrence4323
@dellawrence4323 3 жыл бұрын
We Brits feel your pain with our adandoned TSR2
@rickmroz9212
@rickmroz9212 3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a member of the engineering team that designed and built the Martin P6M. I saw one of these take off and land in Middle River at the Martin plant. Beautiful aircraft.
@NavyCWO
@NavyCWO Жыл бұрын
Considering the overseas bases we've lost over the last years, the Navy may regret killing off the seaplanes.
@johnmitchell5702
@johnmitchell5702 5 ай бұрын
Saw them fly on several occasions while at USNA.
@ergodoy7741
@ergodoy7741 3 жыл бұрын
You really know your facts. Nice change from the terrible channels that misidentify aircraft routinely and just fill up their time with blathering and pointless stock footage. You’ve got a new fan.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks and 'appreciate the comment!
@67marlins81
@67marlins81 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, this is thorough and informative.
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 3 жыл бұрын
Arrow, Super Crusader, Rainbow, the Flying Wing... Priceless aircraft gone forever man...
@flopjul3022
@flopjul3022 3 жыл бұрын
not entirely the Flying Wing concept is getting used for the KLM/TU delft Flying V
@IshijimaKairo
@IshijimaKairo 3 жыл бұрын
isn't the B2 a flying wing
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 3 жыл бұрын
Jack Northrop's X Planes is what I meant, "The Flying Wing" bomber of the late 40s. I know the concept is in use today but the prototype aircraft, priceless but gone
@sailingmaster
@sailingmaster 3 жыл бұрын
Those flying boats were so wonderful. When I was a kid, many many years ago, a family friend had a Grumman Goose. Dear god I loved that plane. Told him on many numerous occasions that when he was ready to sell, let me know. He didn't. And it's since been scrapped. Broke my heart.
@wkelly3053
@wkelly3053 3 жыл бұрын
We throw away a lot of things, thinking no one in the future will care. Glad we have more museums today.
@joeschenk8400
@joeschenk8400 3 жыл бұрын
Great video...I always liked the DC 5. There should be and Endangered Species Act for aircraft.
@johnosbourn4312
@johnosbourn4312 3 жыл бұрын
The DC-5 did serve for a brief time in the Navy as the R3D-1.
@LoneKinKong
@LoneKinKong 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy you'd mentioned the AVRO ARROW - O -CANADA
@stevecausey545
@stevecausey545 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping we would see a new post from you!...These aircraft are the stuff of legend,...and of forward thinking...it's a lot of fun to see all these planes...thank you again, Mike!
@grahamrankin4725
@grahamrankin4725 3 жыл бұрын
We are happy to have the Spruce Goose at our Air Museum in McMinnville Oregon
@IntyMichael
@IntyMichael 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, very impressive. I've visited it 4 years ago.
@josemoreno3334
@josemoreno3334 3 жыл бұрын
@@IntyMichael I got a chance to see when it was displayed in Long Beach , California back in 1970's.
@macmac8249
@macmac8249 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see it. Been a dream of mine....Mac
@raulduke6105
@raulduke6105 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest tragedy is the loss of the flying wing under very odd circumstances
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@leftcoaster67
@leftcoaster67 3 жыл бұрын
That's why the Secretary of the Air Force shouldn't have involvement with one of the companies (Convair) the fact he threatened Jack Northrop in front of witnesses that if he didn't accept a merger with Convair he'd be "Damned sorry.." Oh and by the way, Secretary Symington later on became head of Convair.
@Nafeels
@Nafeels 3 жыл бұрын
Oh sure did! Mr. Northrop was so disgusted by the bureaucracy involved in the flying wing projects, and Convair desperately trying to screw him up that he left the aeronautics industry completely by the late 1950s. It wasn't until a few years before his death that he eventually sent his flying wing research data to NASA so as to not "lost in time", and in an ironic twist, leading to the stealth bomber program being awarded to Northrop instead of Lockheed, giving us what is now the legendary B-2 Spirit. I'm a massive aviation fanboy alright, but flying wing designs have a special place in my heart, and judging from concepts I'm excited on what NASA have in mind for future commercial flying wing designs.
@tankacebo9128
@tankacebo9128 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nafeels agreed. the story of them bringing old Jack Northrop in to see the designs for the hyper classified B-2 spirit shortly before his death brought me to tears.
@jkdm7653
@jkdm7653 3 жыл бұрын
@@leftcoaster67 Wasn't that SecDef Louis Johnson(A Truman appointee) who had close ties with Convair? I've read that he was the one who ordered the destruction of all XB-335s and YB-49s. Shameful, eh?
@rogercarpenter3491
@rogercarpenter3491 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, I remember reading Wings and Airpower when I was a teenager, early to late twenties. Loved those magazines and all the articles about these planes. Also this was a great video.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@GemCityHippie
@GemCityHippie 3 жыл бұрын
I'd submit for additional consideration under the "Flying Wings" category the Northrop N-9M which was a one-third scale craft designed and flown as a development model for the XB- and YB- 35's. Four of them were built and flown; all but one of them "N-9MB" were scrapped. N-9MB was successfully restored by a museum; but was destroyed in a crash and subsequent fire which also claimed the life of the pilot just a few years ago in April of 2019 that was highly reported on by media from across the country.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment, thanks!
@johnosbourn4312
@johnosbourn4312 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember that accident, the aircraft was owned by the Planes Of Fame Flying Museum.
@58jharris
@58jharris 2 жыл бұрын
Why were they operating such a rare and irreplaceable aircraft? It should have been in a museum on display.
@K4rt80y
@K4rt80y 3 жыл бұрын
Mike you still have Wings & Airpower fans. They are a treasure. I re-read them weekly. I'm glad I found this series,
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@ecidaho
@ecidaho 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really fun and interesting as well as sad they are all gone. I always thought it was cool that George Pal used the YB-49 to deliver an atomic bomb in the 1950s movie version of the War of the Worlds. I also think it interesting that in two movies Nazi flying wings were prominent, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Captain America the First Avenger. The one from the the Captain America movie included parasite fighters as well. Again thank you for presenting a wonderful video!
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
When I was growing up and saw Raiders of the Lost Ark I went home and looked through my dad's airplane books to see if I could find it; it really did look like a real airplane.
@utubejdaniel8888
@utubejdaniel8888 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike. I am a big fan of the weird and wonderful in aviation. It is sad to think of all of these extinct machines.
@maxsmodels
@maxsmodels 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the coolest planes ever.
@TheSybermedic
@TheSybermedic 3 жыл бұрын
The Avro Arrow and BAC TSR2 are two of the coolest and beautiful planes that never went into production.
@katrinapaton5283
@katrinapaton5283 3 жыл бұрын
Not that we hold America responsible for their demise or anything...
@paulbarnett227
@paulbarnett227 Жыл бұрын
@@katrinapaton5283 The cancellation of the TSR-2 was not America's fault. It was the fault of the Labour government of the early 1970s and the American option was just an excuse.
@johnevans5782
@johnevans5782 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing; and to all Airmen everywhere: Thanks for your service.
@hugoknight1
@hugoknight1 3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your site. Fantastic content! I expect the number of subscribers will be rising dramatically and quickly. You earned a new one here!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and glad to have you aboard!
@billcallahan9303
@billcallahan9303 3 жыл бұрын
The Stilleto wings look similar to the Starfighter's! As a kid, I was lucky enough to see 4 Scorpions flying in close formation over north Mississippi at about 500 feet in the late 1950s. Great video! Brought back a lot of memories! Thanks!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Very true, and the X-15 also. Thanks!
@donaldvincent
@donaldvincent 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video but now I am sad and must go home to cry....I miss the Yankee Clipper that was gone long before I was born.
@charlesblithfield6182
@charlesblithfield6182 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the comment about the AVRO ARROW. My mother was the chief weights engineer on the program and I grew up respecting the forward thinking of the engineering team. Canada lost a generation of aerospace engineering and some of the top engineers went to NASA and helped America get to the moon.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment, thanks!
@MikeSiemens88
@MikeSiemens88 2 жыл бұрын
A complete nose section & landing gear (not sure whether nose or main) survives in the Aviation museum in Ottawa. Also an Orenda engine survives somewhere. You mention Canada building the 104 Starfighter under licence as an eventual replacement, but it was the CF-101 Voodoo purchased directly from the USA that eventually took on the interceptor role in Canada. The Starfighters were used in the ground strike role as Canada's NATO contribution in Cold War Europe.
@martinpennock9430
@martinpennock9430 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Mike for everything you do. There have been some great examples of aircraft over the ages. Some of these I have never even seen or heard of before. Again we have some of the best designs in the world and even though they may not come to fruition we have some of the best designing minds in the world.
@BobKernow
@BobKernow 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! When I was a kid my grandparents used to take me to the Isle of Wight on the ferry from Southampton, we used to see two of the cocooned Saunders-Roe Princess flying boats lying up in storage at Calshot, would have been in the early 60's.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful that you got to see them!
@leroyabernathy9934
@leroyabernathy9934 3 жыл бұрын
While the original Boeing 314s disappeared, there is a full scale mock-up of one at the Foynes Flying Boat Museum, Foynes, County Limerick, Ireland. The museum is situated at the site of the original transatlantic flying-boat terminus.
@mybobize
@mybobize 3 жыл бұрын
There are actually two left in existence! They are both at the bottom of the ocean after having an engine failure, and being sunk after landing and getting all the passengers off.
@Twirlyhead
@Twirlyhead 3 жыл бұрын
The Seamaster has big look of the British Handley Page Victor bomber which first flew 2½ years earlier than the Seamaster.
@MrNerv
@MrNerv 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't aware of this channel, came up as a recommendation, but thoroughly enjoyed this video! Thanks for bringing it to us Mike!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the nice comment, thanks!
@fastfreddy5874
@fastfreddy5874 Жыл бұрын
Hello Mike, we met at a Washington Airline Society meeting where you were the guest host many years ago, a great presentation! About the Golden Era of Flying boats, all is not lost! The last aircraft Sikorsky made were 3 Flying boats, the VS-44a's, of which 1 survives today, totally restored, in the New England Air Museum. Arguably the best of them, with longer range and faster than the Boeing or the Martin boats, but I'm biased as my Dad worked on them as his first job in a lifetime Aviation career. They were his favorites, and I did get him there many times to see "his" favorite, NC-41881, Excambian, both during restoration and completely finished, a beautiful aircraft! Many thanks Mike also for your painting "Dance of the Valkyrie"!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful comment, and thanks for watching!
@jefffranklin4894
@jefffranklin4894 3 жыл бұрын
The sea dart is on a display pillar at Lakeland Linder Regional Airport in Florida where the Sun'N'Fun fly-in air expo is hosted
@andrewelland9902
@andrewelland9902 3 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your videos, Mike: It's great to find material like this done by someone who knows what he's talking about. As a Brit now living Canada, I was happy to see that yours was not an exclusively US-centric review, and that you tip your hat to some extraordinary contributions to aviation from other countries. Thank you for that. I'm guessing that you only scratched the surface. I'd watch an hour-long video from you any day. You probably had a lot of other material for this one that you had to leave on the cutting room floor, and that probably included the British TSR-2. Thanks again, Mike: You just got a new Subscriber!
@bertg.6056
@bertg.6056 3 жыл бұрын
I just discovered Mike's videos, too. That said, I have been a fan of his aviation art for many years.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andre - appreciate the great comment! Actually, both TSR 2 airframes survived - one is at RAF Museum Cosford, the other at the Imperial War Museum, Duxford. Their Olympus engines are at the Gatwick Aviation Museum.
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most over used phrases is, "ahead of its time." But in the case of the Northrup YB-49 flying wing bomber it certainly applied. Sophisticated, computer fly by wire technology did not exist at the time this aircraft was flown. The YB-49 suffered from yaw instability as well as deadly stall characteristics. The latter resulted in the death of test pilot Glen Edwards.
@vapormissile
@vapormissile 3 жыл бұрын
This is a fun video. "Oh, well, OF COURSE they dumped that one... Oh not the Valkyrie! yah you got me there. "
@richarddouglass1994
@richarddouglass1994 3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel. Very happy to see you on KZbin. I remember you from your visits to B&R Gallery when I worked there in the 1990s.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard, and B&R was a great gallery too!
@lucashinch
@lucashinch 3 жыл бұрын
I like the "Popular Mechanics" font!
@Boomkokogamez
@Boomkokogamez 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest 1950 to 1970s were the days where engineers could build anything without any worry to the program cost.
@jayhershey7525
@jayhershey7525 3 жыл бұрын
On the USS Bennington, I worked around A-7s which were similar to the Crusader F-7s in that both had low -slung intakes. This made working near them very dicey! I feel really glad the Navy discontinued them; an A-7 nearly sucked me into its intake! That was January, 1968.
@johnplaninac9980
@johnplaninac9980 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video and the photos are very nice and very informative. To bad that some of the planes weren’t saved.
@Ironcobra666fuckyou
@Ironcobra666fuckyou 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as i clicked on this video a surge of sadness came over me. Much love from England.
@ross.venner
@ross.venner 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for crossing the pond. As a small child, my mother pointed up to the Princess flying above us. I didn't understand the significance until much later. I also recall seeing the Rotadyne at Farnborough.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome that you saw the Rotodyne! I loved seeing Duxford and Hendon during my visits to the U.K.
@sski
@sski 3 жыл бұрын
It's totally a shame that many of those do not exist today. Fred over at Airailimages channel had some photos that included a Consolidated 20-A Fleetster sitting in a California airfield right after WW2 last week that was rotting away even then. I have never seen another example in the modern day.
@michaelmanger8640
@michaelmanger8640 2 жыл бұрын
Love your work Mike, thanks for all the effort. Simply told for us admirers. peace from Melbourne, Australia.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@petedraper5185
@petedraper5185 3 жыл бұрын
I had the Revell model of the X-3 Stiletto many years ago when I was in my early teens. What a beautiful aircraft.
@xpkbrz
@xpkbrz 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding presentation, priceless content, guaranteed subscription
@merlin51h84
@merlin51h84 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video Mike. What impresses is the amount of, at least for me, never before seen photos. Keep up this marvelous series of videos.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@burntsider8457
@burntsider8457 3 жыл бұрын
Good content well-presented. No buffoonery like in so many documentaries these days.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent🙏, and RIP🌹 for your Buddy..👍
@johnmoran8805
@johnmoran8805 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! Good, but sad vid. Like you, I've got a soft spot for flying boats. Cut the yard of a guy that flew PBY's with the black cats. His stories never got old, then he flew water bombers. Good memories, thanks!
@randym7511
@randym7511 4 ай бұрын
Another excellent and informative presentation! Thank you!
@1bardiel1
@1bardiel1 3 жыл бұрын
I always like the P6M Seamaster... even without the bombing mission, this seaplane could have been widely used in submarine warfare and coastal surveillance ... what a waste :(
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%!
@fasterthandragons7908
@fasterthandragons7908 3 жыл бұрын
Even today with sufficient upgrade it could've still been successful in it's primary role, because it's highly unlikely the United States would ever create something that wasn't modular.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
The Japanese navy still uses flying boats today, they are still relevant maritime tools for a variety of missions.
@danf321
@danf321 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! Although I’m glad I don’t live back when the flying boat Clipper was being used, it’s always been a romantic dream of mine to fly to the Islands in one and of course, sit at the bar and enjoy a Martini.
@kristov29
@kristov29 3 жыл бұрын
My dream as well. I'll buy the next round of drinks at the bar.
@danf321
@danf321 3 жыл бұрын
@@kristov29 Klink!🍸
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment, thanks, and although those trips were indeed romantic and adventurous, those were many long hours in the air. I'll share that Martini with you!
@swiper1818
@swiper1818 2 жыл бұрын
These are absolutely brilliant videos - keep up the good work!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@jpatt1000
@jpatt1000 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making the book on the Rainbow. Not often you get to leave a message directly with the author, but I thoroughly enjoyed reading it!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@einautofan6685
@einautofan6685 3 жыл бұрын
Allways loved flying wing aircraft! Nothing looks more futuristic!😎
@JessHull
@JessHull 2 жыл бұрын
6:10 "its kind of a tubby design" I think its absolutely adorable. I want a plushie version.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 2 жыл бұрын
Great comment - the Jaguar was just the first step to the F-14 Tomcat. Thanks for watching!
@sgt_s4und3r54
@sgt_s4und3r54 3 жыл бұрын
I love going to the Air Force Museum. It's a beautiful place and I've been there a half dozen times over 30 years.
@PaddyPatrone
@PaddyPatrone 3 жыл бұрын
Would be nice if you could include some german designs. There were so many.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Good point, thanks!
@chuck9987
@chuck9987 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!! So much information in such a short period of time. There are a lot of valuable metals tied up in those airframes and then there is the issue of the technology being valuable to someone else. The DOD had all of the retired F-14 airframes shredded to prevent someone from buying parts that could wind up in Iranian hands to keep their ever shrinking squadrons of flyable F-14's going. A large number of railroad locomotives suffered a similar fate. Not one NYC J-3 Hudson or Pennsylvania RR T-1 was preserved. They were sold as scrap because their owners could make a buck off of the steel by selling then off.
@garfieldsmith332
@garfieldsmith332 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an interesting but in a sense a sad review. It is a shame that there was not the foresight to save at least one of the planes where several were built. In many cases a dozen, two, dozen, a hundred; yet all gone. Watching this I remembered the line of the song Big Yellow Taxi - "That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone". And as a Canadian a big thank you for mentioning the Avro CF-105 Arrow. Many of us wish they had saved one. At least there are still the photos to show a lot of forgotten aircraft that helped pave the way in aviation.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Garfield - you nailed it!
@SaturnCanuck
@SaturnCanuck 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Three Saro Princess flying boats were built. One flew. All were scrapped. Oh and the nose section of Avro Canada CF-105 number 25206 survives, on display at the Canada Aviation Museum. Not, yes, no complete airframe.....
@atomicenergycommission9820
@atomicenergycommission9820 3 жыл бұрын
The sadness in your voice can be heard when you say scrapped
@765kvline
@765kvline 3 жыл бұрын
Very fine commentary and surprising, too, that so many of these aircraft never saw physical survival to this day. My dad worked for Pan American World Airways and worked on the flying boat engines for many of these large sea-landing aircraft in the Pacific and South America.
@adventuressurvivalinthailand
@adventuressurvivalinthailand 3 жыл бұрын
Flying boats and seaplanes are a great concept that I think is overlooked in today's world. Not sure why. No runways and airports has to be one advantage
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@alanhutchins5916
@alanhutchins5916 3 жыл бұрын
That's the point.....maritime safety in inshore waters/harbours = insurance risk, certainly for commercial purposes??, plus the financial model on landing rights on open water.....???
@davidm.4670
@davidm.4670 3 жыл бұрын
really rough surface in windy conditions ?
@animaltvi9515
@animaltvi9515 2 жыл бұрын
Some countries still operate them. Russia and Japan are 2 I can think of
@josemoreno3334
@josemoreno3334 3 жыл бұрын
I seen some of these aircraft on display at Edwards AFB, California . I use to go there TDY in the 1980's and 90's working on telephone cables. Seen a lot of test aircraft flying around and sonic booms galore . A lot of history there. Great video by the way.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, and glad you got to see the great history at Edwards!
@jeremy7383
@jeremy7383 3 жыл бұрын
I also am a lover of the flying boat. there's a great example at the New England Air Museum of the Sikorsky VS-44 and of course everyone should go see the H-4 at Evergreen!
@lightbox617
@lightbox617 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of these were never expected to go into production. Most of them are sure pretty. The XB70 was beautiful in concept.design and performance
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 3 жыл бұрын
I will accept the design and performance aspects. The concept, no. The concept behind the B-70 was the building of a manned bomber to meant to drop nuclear weapons.
@jangelbrich7056
@jangelbrich7056 3 жыл бұрын
Good photos and presentation! Thanks
@edbrown8353
@edbrown8353 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content my friend!!!! GREAT JOB!!!!!!!
@simonrancourt7834
@simonrancourt7834 3 жыл бұрын
I saw parts of the Avro Arrow in the Bagotville air defense museum.
@jetsons101
@jetsons101 3 жыл бұрын
I really wished that all the flying wings weren't scraped, it was ahead of it's time----it was "flying art" Your smart, yes I built a Fairey Rotodyne. Time to go, it's the end of a long day...... Again another great watch.
@bgdavenport
@bgdavenport 3 жыл бұрын
Your visual references continue to amaze me!
@WAL_DC-6B
@WAL_DC-6B 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great video on aircraft that are now "long gone." Wish a Northrop YB-49 "Flying Wing" could have been preserved. The former Douglas-Chicago plant at Park Ridge, IL, which built most of the Douglas C-54 Skymasters, was used after the end of WWII to store some aircraft the Army Air Force set aside for preservation including the Boeing B-29 Superfortress, the "Enola Gay."
@anthonydebski5814
@anthonydebski5814 Жыл бұрын
SO many of these wonderful machines, and the Service types, were the backbone of my child-teen hood!!....and more...REVELL and Aurora et al, made MODELS of these BEASTS!
@keesvandenbroek331
@keesvandenbroek331 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Douglas DC5. A couple of those were used by KLM Royal Dutch Airlines in the dutch West Indies. This makes KLM the only airline which operated all marks of DC aircraft. From the DC2 (DC1 being only a protoype), via the DC3, DC4, DC5, DC6, DC7, DC8, DC9 to ultimately the DC10
@caseycrutchfield8586
@caseycrutchfield8586 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your work very much. Thanks for your hard work.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@charlesbranch4120
@charlesbranch4120 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mike. This reminds me that I should pick up the book written by the pilot of the Pan Am Clipper that flew around the globe in December 1941on a flight from the west coast to Hawaii and other destinations, but after the attacks on Hawaii and the Philippines were told to return to the US by any means possible. The scarcity of proper aviation gasoline for the engines was only one problem they dealt with. Another was the lack of aviation charts for the remainder of their incredible journey. Amazing. Thanks for the F-8 Super Crusader, too. While Dad was assigned to Hickam AFB, we lived near Kaneohe Bay MCAS, and as kids enjoyed watching the F-8E Crusaders. I'm glad we returned to the mainland as they transitioned to the F-4J...
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 2 жыл бұрын
Great comment, and belated thanks!
@andrewmcphee8965
@andrewmcphee8965 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, really enjoyed the video. Subscribed.
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and glad to have you aboard!
@ZZstaff
@ZZstaff 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am a former commercial pilot and enjoy aviation history.
@viksaini
@viksaini 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Let's hope all of the disused, classified aircraft types that flew out of Groom Lake have been saved somehow, somewhere...
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 3 жыл бұрын
Well you’ve got the Boeing Bird of Prey and my particular favourite, the Northrop Tacit Blue, both preserved.
@mr.modern4419
@mr.modern4419 3 жыл бұрын
Love you channel!!! Great info.
@bluetopguitar1104
@bluetopguitar1104 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Awesome to see these rare airplanes
@davelester5839
@davelester5839 3 жыл бұрын
There are two of the S-43 "Baby Clippers" surviving--one from Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7.
@samsignorelli
@samsignorelli 3 жыл бұрын
The F-111B was not a Grumman plane -- The F-111 was a Convair bird. The 2 companies DID team up on the navalized B version, but that was largely due to Grumman's experience with carrier aircraft, NOT because of the swing wing. Thanks for mentioning the Sea Dart. My father was an engineer on that plane, and I'm the surviving member of the restoration crew for the example on display in San Diego (and the only member of the crew who did not work on it originally, as i was in high school during the restoration).
@samsignorelli
@samsignorelli 3 жыл бұрын
@Edgar Miller Nope...my father was an engineer at Convair, and I think the 111 may have been one of his projects.
@ericmkendall1
@ericmkendall1 3 жыл бұрын
To my way of thinking, it's not terribly surprising that there would be a great many examples of aircraft that never went beyond the prototype stage and which subsequently became "extinct." The odds of going extinct are pretty good if only a few examples are ever constructed, you start losing them in crashes during test flights, and, in the end, either the design proves less than successful or the prospective end user decides for whatever reason that it just doesn't fit their needs. Still, a number of the types outlined in this video were certainly worthy of being preserved for one reason or another. It's a shame that they're gone. That being said, I find much more interesting the stories of aircraft that actually went into production, saw service, and later vanished entirely. I think those stories are worth pursuing in more detail.
@leester9487
@leester9487 3 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of the Vulcan Starfire? Popular mechanics article in the 80's had me drooling over it. It never went anywhere except to obscurity.
@WhiteDwarfVR4
@WhiteDwarfVR4 3 жыл бұрын
There is a Sea Dart at Lakeland airport in Florida. It's currently on the aviation academy side. Used to drool over it every time we went to Sun and Fun fly-in as a kid. Never realized how rare they are.
@maciejs3329
@maciejs3329 3 жыл бұрын
4:40 More were build... 4 of them survived. Brefly after Wikipedia : XF2Y-1 Sea Dart no. 137634 - Smithsonian Institution warehouses, Washington. Awaiting restoration, not exposed. no 135763 - San Diego Air & Space Museum , exposed at the entry YF2Y-1 no 135764 - Wings of Freedom Aviation Museum, Horsham Township, Pensylwania finally YF2Y-1 no.135765 is the one at w Florida Air Museum, Lakeland. looks like Navy was really determined to go with this project despite all inconveniences. jet speeds and waves don't match well.
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent....Thanks very much...!
@EstorilEm
@EstorilEm 3 жыл бұрын
Woo 125 likes and zero dislikes! Don’t punch out the content too fast, you might run out! Great video; presentation, pace, content, everything was perfect. 👍 You need a patreon ASAP!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@martinstrumpfer1620
@martinstrumpfer1620 3 жыл бұрын
An hour long video? I wouldn't mind that...
@joeschenk8400
@joeschenk8400 3 жыл бұрын
I agree !
@chuckschillingvideos
@chuckschillingvideos 3 жыл бұрын
How about hours long? Many of these birds are well deserving of their own hour long video, including one I can think of that isn't even included in this video (The Martin P4M Mercator, which actually saw combat).
@timmusial6335
@timmusial6335 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing ...
@MachTuck
@MachTuck 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, and what a shame they didnt save none of those airplanes
@deltavee2
@deltavee2 3 жыл бұрын
The Stiletto is far and away the most pleasing aesthetically, it is gorgeous but didn't perform as designed. Note the wings, though, they went into the design of the F-104 Starfighter/ Widowmaker.
@ABrit-bt6ce
@ABrit-bt6ce 3 жыл бұрын
Stilleto sort of flew. That is what its headstone gets.
@badraven9532
@badraven9532 3 жыл бұрын
Good Video, Thanks. Its hardly surprising though that experimentals and prototypes fail to be still around, there's quite a long list of successful high build quantity aircraft that have been allowed to all but disappear or actually disappear from the skies. Speaking just UK for a moment, Handley Page Halifax, Bristol Beaufighter, hell, even the Typhoon/Tempest. Even the Lancaster and Hurricane hang on a slender vulnerable thread. I won't go on!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment, thanks!
@germansnowman
@germansnowman 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video, thank you very much!
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
@germansnowman
@germansnowman 3 жыл бұрын
@@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 Very welcome. My father instilled a love for aeronautics in me through model airplanes (mainly Czech or Polish templates for enlarging onto cardboard!) and several books, including an encyclopaedia of the aircraft of the world. Your videos bring back memories of that. I like the calm and yet engaging presentation style - no frills and great historical photos!
@KRYPTOS_K5
@KRYPTOS_K5 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. The end of the flying boats was something like a preface in the book of our modern hyper industrialized, hi tech, crowded and recently urbanized, globalised world. It deserves an special video documentary. Thanks. Brazil 🇧🇷
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment, many thanks!
@tiacd3780
@tiacd3780 3 жыл бұрын
The XB-51 what designed as an attack airplane to replace the A/B-26 Invader series, and the XB-51 was beaten by the Canberra, which Martin produced under license
@brussell639
@brussell639 3 жыл бұрын
Thankfully the grandest flying boat to ever be built still exists.
@lonelylad3023
@lonelylad3023 3 жыл бұрын
What might that be?
@brussell639
@brussell639 3 жыл бұрын
@@lonelylad3023 The Hughes H-4 Hercules.
@garethonthetube
@garethonthetube 2 жыл бұрын
@@brussell639 I wonder if it still has its engines. They could be useful to the only Boeing KC97 still airworthy.
@kojikanemoto5144
@kojikanemoto5144 2 жыл бұрын
That was one entertaining - yet sad - video, Mike. I am sure you wish the Rainbow had survived...
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782
@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Koji, and yes, a tragic ending to that program. 'Hope you're doing well, and best wishes to you and the family for a Happy Holiday Season!
@goldtutch
@goldtutch 3 жыл бұрын
aah so many beauties ! they should have just kept them as museum pieces , oh well photos are better than nothing
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