Can we Build a Supersonic Propeller Aircraft?

[@messier82ac]

>Looks in video titled "Supersonic Propeller Aircraft" >Doesn't pass the sound barrier Jeez, this messier guy is kind of a moron

[@thenorsewarrior717]

Its just as well, if you were to actually make it break the sound barrier you probably would've had the same problem that the navy did when they made the XF-84H thunderschreech

[@davisdf3064]

​@@thenorsewarrior717 Ah yes, the industrial fuel to noise converter

[@zx25_ntro72]

Help, i want to make a new country/company for your DC server but don't know how to

[@MortarGuyX]

@@thenorsewarrior717 I wonder with modern tech, if the plane could achieve its goal today?

[@thenorsewarrior717]

It might be possible if you could make an engine that goes faster than mach 1.2 but in the modern day there isn't really a need to make a prop plane that can break the sound barrier due to afterburning jet engines

[@justified_wrath_21]

M82 carrying flyout.

[@aero_park]

Yep

[@Y_Chothia]

He is Flyout

[@aero_park]

@@Y_Chothia yep

[@enderjed2523]

When the game is released, he can rest his back (from carrying Flyout’s publicity) as others will flow in.

[@carsonyoder7320]

Literally like 20 people joined the flyout discord server after he uploaded including me

[@Kat_Underscore]

This M82 contractor sounds like a cool guy

[@lamhkak47]

Waiting for Belkan Black Magic Fuckery to happen some time sooner or later

[@thereoc]

All this shit is so interesting

[@ttpechon2535]

That thing looks mean, a wicked cool design! The nose kinda reminds me of an F-4. On a side note, I really hope they add the ability to export these designs to obj etc, as 3D printing these things would be awesome!

[@TheCobra114-o5e]

A mix between the f-4, b52, B-25 and Me-110

[@ttpechon2535]

@@TheCobra114-o5e Exactly

[@cypher1o1]

I got you for the official report "the aircraft experienced a rapid unplanned disassembly, after a less then desirable terrain intercept"

[@SFish-wr4kh]

It's so wild to me that I've been ruminating on "what would a fighter jet look like if we never developed ducted fans," and here I find an entire community devoted to exploring that exact question.

[@SD401X]

I can't wait until this is available for purchase. This game Is what Simpleplanes used to feel like to me so many years ago. Can't wait to join in on this fun

[@Verminator4]

Where it started: hey wouldn’t it be neat if there were fighter planes with modern tech but no jet engines Where it’s going: Strangereal 2

[@nobstompah4850]

Just you wait until he makes an atom bomb with nothing but TNT

[@Threxer]

As soon I heard that a country got nuked 5 times I knew where it was going. Can't say I'm surprised either. Kassia did nothing wrong?

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@nobstompah4850 Atom bombs were made with TNT 💀. Also space engineers with "nukes" exist.

[@5peciesunkn0wn]

@@Threxer Hey. Hey. Belka nuked *THEMSELVES* 7 times and it was the border, not around the capital. :P

[@AHHHHHHHH21]

​@@nobstompah4850well I mean, the concept of an atom bomb is literally splitting the atom to make an explosion, so how would a bunch of TNT do that

[@SpaceBattleshipYamato-ps2jc]

Meanwhile, the F-84H Thunderscreech be like: *Distant excited noises*

[@krisnaputramaulidan2843]

*dies of **-cringe-** shock waves*

[@bobero155]

i hope the roleplay kind of game on your dc server grow so other countrys can join and you can create much more advanced aircrafts. Great video and good job.

[@paulcarr6388]

I loved doing this in KSP. There was a little arms race role play community

[@robertoroberto9798]

@@paulcarr6388God, I can’t wait to go join the community in two days since my vacation is almost over. Can anyone remind me in two days please?

[@l3_war_thunder]

biedronka

[@bobero155]

@@l3_war_thunder ta

[@julopabene8736]

Now we just need a swing-wing propeller aircraft. Bonus points if the engines are on the moving wings or the wingtips

[@camilorodriguez5602]

hear me out: thrust vectoring prop

[@julopabene8736]

@@camilorodriguez5602 Like a Helicopter Rotor with the Swash Plate but pointing forward?

[@carsonyoder7320]

These vids are just so interesting, I play a lot of kerbal space program so this game looks so much fun. Also do you have any idea when this game comes out and if it's coming out on steam? Also i absolutley LOVE this turboprop based parallel universe

[@icymastergod3339]

I think fly out is coming to steam sometime in 2023

[@randomshit9028]

Just a reminder...its out

[@ScalarYoutube]

Can you start a sort of space-race like arc by building an X-15 counterpart? I think it would be cool to see how high and fast you can push it

[@cmdrhann4829]

That take off gave me some The Sky Crawler vive. Beautiful design.

[@smooth-operator.7522]

The idea of a Cold-war type of deal in this fiction world would be sick. People trying their best to one-up the other superpower or something, would be sick, especially with sprocket and flyout

[@subjectc7505]

This looks like a cool airplane, i would definitely add it to my inventory.

[@tdofducksplays]

Well I think that the company would be very impressed with the fact that during testing having issues with the elevator not operating to its full extent, the main hull of the craft remained mostly intact and the entire crew survived with only a few injuries.

[@M4ssExtinction]

This is awesome, I think I'll join in. I've never seen a community so nice and creative as the flyout community

[@aliyusx]

What's the name of this game pls

[@thesciencesphere4273]

@@aliyusx it says in the comment, it's called flyout

[@whyfencepost]

This Plane Feels Like a WartHog from the start of the flight action video thing

[@judet2992]

Dude this looks SICK. I love this universe.

[@scernefhaal]

Btw at the end you can tell to your contractor: “Due to intensive speed testing, our craft has gone through rapid unplanned disassembly using ground-based methods” I think they wouldn’t suspect a thing :)

[@scernefhaal]

Visually speaking, you managed to build an H-tailed B-25-esque turboprop F-101 Voodoo… AND I LOVE IT

[@RadiantCataclysm]

This looks so good! And your such a good builder and very good at creating videos for how young your channel is. And the community you've created on your discord is incredible.

[@Attaxalotl]

Your discord server reinvented Ace Combat. 11/10, would play!

[@marrqi7wini54]

Maybe we can get Project Aces or RB2D to take a look at this.

[@josiahrodriguez8020]

This is the first time I've stumbled on your channel so I'm not sure exactly what you're doing but it seems super cool, and as an aerospace engineer I'm super on board with it lmao. Probably going to binge your channel now, thanks!

[@bromine_35]

It really invokes the looks of a f4

[@johnhermann7498]

"...while attempting to accomplish one of the primary test objectives, the aircraft experienced an unplanned air/ground interface which will delay future testing for an unknown amount of time..."

[@Space_Reptile]

given how loud any attempt at a supersonic prop plane has been in the past, i feel sorry for the rear gunner

[@caesar_cider2777]

i cannot wait to get my hands on this game. it looks like an aerospace engineer's dream so far

[@kerbodynamicx472]

Imagine the noise a supersonic turboprop would make. Just passing over would be sufficient to knock out enemy soldiers.

[@zorzerother]

Earlier Belka scenario, I dig it

[@returniniman1997]

Yep, it went inside my mind as well… what if propellers were use for jets or what if supersonic engine was still not invented, something like that.

[@Iden_in_the_Rain]

The nose is very 60’s, it looks good. No supersonic props kinda sucks but physics be physicking. Could you try making a biplane (that is aesthetically similar to stunt or WWI/interwar biplanes) that goes supersonic? It doesn’t need to be props since biplanes are already have so much drag slowing it down

[@barti209]

Oh I promise You I've been goggling if it was possible to build a supersonic turboprop like 5 days ago! Thanks for the videos, they are awesome, keep up the good work, good luck 🤞

[@Lope1774]

You should defenetly try to make the successor (or predecessor) of the sr71 blacbird, that is capable of mach 6+ (if the game permits it) and stealth. Would be really cool

[@lancebradshaw4829]

I've been working on a supersonic turboprop aircraft design myself (not in Flyout, but by using equations and guidelines from an actual aircraft design book). So far, I'm optimistic. Based on the zero-lift drag coefficient of the F-4 Phantom II at Mach 1 (which is 0.0399), the zero-lift drag force on the F-4 at Mach 1 at 36,000 feet is about 7,042 pounds. Its lift-induced drag coefficient at Mach 1 (for an angle of attack of 0 degrees) is about 0.19. Assuming an efficiency factor of 0.8, this leads to an induced drag coefficient of 0.00509. At the same flight conditions, this is a drag force of 898 pounds (for a total drag force of 7,940 pounds). If we replaced the jet engines in the F-4 with one or two turboprops and shaft them together to power a propeller in the nose, we'd need at lead 7,940 pounds of thrust at Mach 1 for the plane to reach the sound barrier. The XF-88b aircraft demonstrated a propeller efficiency of 0.78 at Mach 1.01. If we assume that a modern propeller is at least that efficient, we can achieve a thrust of about 7,942 pounds with a turboprop of 17,920 horsepower. This is somewhat more than the most powerful existing turboprop (Kuznetsov NK-12, at about 15,000 horsepower). However, we can put two of those NK-12s in the F-4 where the turbojets would have been. That should be more than sufficient to allow it to reach the sound barrier. The F-4 is chunky, too. A much sleeker design should reach the sound barrier more easily. All of this assumes I got the math right, of course.

[@gopniksaurolophus6354]

It reminds me of the Sud Aviation Vatour in fuselage and canopy design. Overall planform, even.

[@cookiejarvis3856]

o7 Messier, love your vids. Think you could make a stealth multi-role, ground focused twin jet engine aircraft?

[@PVZ_Kr4ngle]

This game gonna be fire when it releases

[@gearandalthefirst7027]

This build is gorgeous, makes up for not actually succeeding. Style points: A+ XD

[@XV350-Restoration]

I only recently found your channel and I love it. I can't wait for this game to be fully released. I'm restoring a Blackburn Buccaneer IRL so I would love to recreate that aircraft. There were plans to make a supersonic version if you want to try that.

[@Admre]

Something fun for this series would be a modern airliner but with primitive jet engines

[@Cythil]

This must be the universe where everyone is deaf, considering everyone is trying to make supersonic turboprop planes! >_

[@toshisato26]

Love the consistent uploads can't get enough of these vids

[@죽은_시민의_사회]

Flyout is slowly becoming Ace Combat Also the plane looks really nice

[@redactedredacted4080]

Interesting back tail gutters were phased out after desert storm. The last air crewmember with the tailgunner MOS in the USAF retired in 2019.

[@BFerris77]

kinda looks like an f4 from the cockpit and wings

[@Louis_Roper]

Ye it does 60 lookin innit

[@Power5]

Love the design of the plane. Would probably duct the fans and put them inside the hull somehow to help with crossing the sound barrier in level flight. I love inverted gull wing planes, but they had a very specific purpose. To get the propeller off the ground to get more blade diameter while keeping the landing gear as short as possible for stability and retraction. Putting the engine at the bottom of the anhedral wing section nullifies the main reason for the wing design. It does allow you increased bomb loads as was another side effect.

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

This looks a hell of a lot like an aircraft from Sky Crawlers. Seriously, there’s a aircraft in that movie that has a similar wing design with the same engine placement that also is pusher props and has the exact same tail end design. The middle of the Fuselage looks similar as well.

[@mrman5666]

Idea:make a cargo plane that can carry 1 or 2 tanks/apc or 50 people.

[@liormalka8246]

this whole thing with nations is really cool. Hopefully i can join all this when the games for sale! also with the jet restrictions, would you still be able to make a pure jet aircraft? something like the ww2 jets, like a p-59, me-262 or gloster meteor?

[@kurisu1273]

I'd love to see an antisubmarine plane since most of them are turbopropasit would fit the era you are working on

[@tera59487]

You can but the props would go supersonic creating over 900 Sonic booms per second

[@xavierrodriguez2463]

Sonic booms are continuous

[@iplaygames8090]

Thunderscreach on steroids

[@AaronONeal1]

@Messier82AC it wont likely get you truly supersonic, but you would want the waist taper in the fuselage to add in moving past the sound barrier. A detail that might be interesting to add and retest.

[@martindinner3621]

Ah yes, the area rule! (Coke bottle shape)

[@Romoro86]

Oh that design looks gorgeous, those turboprops are so cool😊

[@azuritet3]

We are pleased to inform our client that during an unplanned lithobraking maneuver the testbed performed admirably. Pilots 'Jimmy' John and 'Jimmy' Buffett were minimally affected by the rapid unplanned disassembly of unit JN - 1125. No collateral damage is projected as an unanticipated side affect of this exiting new design challenge.

[@henryzhang7661]

Honestly I prefer your first aircraft! That looks so sleek and so sick! But still this concept is truly amazing! Love it!

[@lachyness]

Great improvement on the videos in the past month and bit, only thing I’d change is the font on the thumbnails. Insane quality

[@thereoc]

M82 casually restarting the X-84 thunderscreech program

[@miniz33]

This plane is sooo damn cool, it looks like a one night stand between a b25 and an f14 tomcat. And its none the worse for that, I want a poster now!

[@iulianrusu8197]

I have a very vague idea that this looks kinda maybe sort of like that prototype Meteor with props.

[@Sam-nt6mh]

I think it could be quite cool to see a 6th gen esque fighter!

[@judet2992]

9:40 Is that an inverted Flux Capacitor?

[@yosefarfianbudiman]

Somehow this built almost reminded me to one of many aircraft for The sky crawlers series

[@cerviplays6691]

The answer: yes Is it a good idea?: No Because just look at the thunderscreech. It broke the sound barrier but it gave a guy a seizure and killed him.

[@zx25_ntro72]

Make a funky reverse-wing like the SU-47 for you near future series!

[@wrongoloid4749]

Reverse wing turboprop

[@Iden_in_the_Rain]

He could make a true backwards plane with a rudder and elevator at the front, reverse swept wings, a pusher prop, and a 747 style crew bubble at the top but the windows are in the back

[@zx25_ntro72]

@Iden_in_the_Rain heh *i like that idea*

[@totalnerd5674]

This was a most worthy challenge for you, M82, but I must task you with your greatest task yet - in Flyout, build a ... Car.

[@JakeWhoArtASnake]

The fusalage reminds me of an F4 Phantom

[@TheTheOnly-kq5ys]

I like the inclusion of a Flux Capacitor on the dash

[@SilverEC170]

love the work, keep up the videos, i watch this for inspiration for my Alt History WW2

[@lancerman9240]

I love the ductless fan engine design for it

[@reaper-1]

u can tell eevryones passionate about this M82 keep it up

[@Aeroc0bra]

M82 is just the best, proud to be a subscriber and member of the discord!😁

[@randycampbell6307]

To be honest just remind them of the fact that "flying is the art of throwing oneself towards the ground and missing... sometimes you don't completely miss" :)

[@BlitzvogelMobius]

Getting anywhere near the sound barrier with props on a practical warplane would've required power to weight ratios that ICEs simply can't provide. Pinnacle ICE still requires tech that would've directly lead to the development of gas turbines anyways, such as turbochargers and superchargers. A more interesting exercise would be a motorjet or something similar, like an ICE driven propulsor fan with added "afterburner" spray nozzles or a PCB system. Explain that your universe lacks certain metalurigical capabilities like nickel superalloys that allowed turbines to really be a whole 'nother beast.

[@robertofalchi4739]

This looks like a Cold War era B-25 Mitchell successor to me, I think it's neat.

[@lukasjuszczak1664]

This is The Wings of Honnêamise witj extra steps! Glorious!

[@tmg8486]

No no, you tell them that the aircraft is able to resist such groundbreaking speeds as Mach 1 (just round it up, they won't notice nor ask ;) ) while performing spectacularly in its role that way it sounds more appealing lol

[@theskipper1136]

Hello, I am RedSki, im part of that server and I made a missile... It doesn't know where it is but it knows where you are

[@_sans_oo1824]

First of all, i love this idea of a supersonic Prop plane. Could a design based on the Do 335 lead to better results?

[@michaelcoviello-v3w]

Did You got the idea for the detonations of several nukes from BELKA from Ace combat

[@shipmasterkent9176]

I love the design of that plane

[@Seli_B]

You should do a modern version of this aircraft. Said it would have been refurbished maybe as a recon or a tactical bomber and got stripped of it’s tail gunner (in a way reconverted like the glisser meteor, or refurbished like the b-52)

[@5peciesunkn0wn]

Every video wants me to have this game sooner and sooner lol. It's so much more intuitive looking than Simple Planes when it comes to stuff. Can you make flying boats/float planes? if my internet wasn't trash atm because I'm on a hotspot, I'd be joining the discord and using Simple Planes in absence of Flyout for designs lol.

[@Trenbolone_Acetate564]

It‘s crazy how much your channel grew. Whem i watched your first video you had like 600 subs

[@rulingmoss5599]

I'd like to see you try to do a smaller purpose built attempt at a supersonic prop, not even built for combat, just something akin to an old NASA test aircraft.

[@liamhamm8591]

I think a supersonic turbo prop would work better with a center fuselage mounted propeller. Maybe even a twin contra rotating design to go with it. Kinda like a turboprop contra rotating do335 with a set in the front and back

[@Worst.Of.Reddit]

its looks like a mix between the f4-phantom and the a-10 warthog, but then with props

[@april-wr1mf]

I dont know how you only have 15k subs. Honestly truly baffels me, these videos are so high quality, and the game is just phenomenal

[@riot2136]

Saying “only” 15k is kind of mean bro haha. His subscriber growth has actually been really impressive considering the amount of videos he has(less than 20), and when he started uploading Flyout content(2 months ago). I’m sure his channel will continue to grow sharply as time goes on and he release more great content

[@april-wr1mf]

@@riot2136 i think it is perfectly resonable to state that he only has 15k subscribers, I was pointing out the fact that the videos he makes are high in quality, and the game is absoulutely incredible for the state that it is in right now.

[@riot2136]

@@april-wr1mfoh yeah, I totally agree with what you’re pointing out. I just felt like you were understating how large 15,000 subscribers is given how ‘new’ his channel is, but I understand our opinions on that are subjective. You’re right, I’m wrong

[@april-wr1mf]

@@riot2136 I understand your point and in no way am I meaning to undermine the amount of people that 15 thousand really is but, when you look at youtubers such as Matt Lowne who makes videos on Kerbal Space Program a game in this case very similar to Flyout it objectively speaking is not very many compared to Matt Lownes channel amount of subscribers. I just think if people like KSP then they would definetly love flyout, which makes me wonder how he only has 15k subscribers

[@riot2136]

@@april-wr1mf alright, I don’t want to keep dragging this conversation on, but you bringing up Matt Lowne actually supports what I’m saying perfectly. All this subscriber count stuff is relative, Matt has been uploading consistently for years, Messier has been doing it for 2 months. 15k subscribers with the first 2 months of content is a ratio very, very few creators obtain, and it’s really impressive. But you’re definitely right, he’s deserves more. Ok, cool, have a good day/night brother

[@jackkurtz2091]

Ok so I love this F-4/Thunderscreech/B-25 monstrosity

[@Vincy1Gamerl]

i lov your videos

[@Itchybol]

the game isnt even out and already has so advanced community

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

Strangely enough it looks like a prop powered SO.4050 Vautour

[@soundknight]

That bomber looks cool

[@Sammich_boy]

Looks french, like the Narval, and the Vautour!

[@deltacx1059]

I'm so dang excited for this.

[@thekringe4387]

Jesus christ the noise this thing would make lol

[@kibo608]

russia made a tailgunner for some modern bombers and instead of shooting bullets they shot flares or chaff, it's a interesting concept

[@nytrol2720]

I am just happy I was able to make the Blank map so Quickly

[@zimozim]

M82 uploads a video-> automatic like