Celestion Ditton 44 Part 4 - My own pair

Completion of this project. Some final crossover tweaks and a discussion about how they have turned out. Sound clips at the end also.
I do not own the music used but have used it for demonstration purposes only.

[@andyduggan7810]

Fantastic choice of music. I don't know what any of it is, but wow.

[@homeopathical]

Wow, a really good, well-defined, cohesive reproduction of music from the bottom to the top of the scale for all sorts of musical genre. Love it!

[@haycrossaudio5474]

They do pretty much everything well and good recordings are just amazing. Appreciate your comments 🙏

[@pieterschaar5613]

You should be very proud of the work you've done on these, they measure up very well visually and audibly ;) , keep these vids coming

[@haycrossaudio5474]

Cheers Pieter. They really were a labour of love

[@emresorkun9257]

Your video series made me buy a pair of Celestion 44. My plan is following your steps and rebuild mine. Thank you for amazing work!

[@sinbadMcCaffrey]

Good rant in the middle there. When you came here with my mended speakers it was very obvious that you really care how they sound and not just about their computer read outs. These speakers sound good with proper bass response.

[@davidtizzard-i6z]

Sounds really natural and balanced. Be good to hear more clips, particularly of your new range

[@BRITISHREPUBLICANuk]

Awesome video! I have some Ditton 250s and I'm going to rebuild the crossovers after seeing how you did it.

[@angelodagnolo984]

Came across your channel today and I've haven't stopped watching it, just loving your work! EXCELLENT!

[@oz4acl]

Even trough a set of earphones, this is so dang good, i wish i could have been there! That four inch was a great choice. And the woofer.... Oh my! - My Snell's wont match this, by a lone shot...

[@robertgunter7230]

I have 2 ditton 44 . from a friend .....12's are immaculate... 1 mid ok the other is not...., replaced both with two 6 inch fe 200's faital pro and threw away the hf2000's and replaced with fane st 5020 's using original x/ o ... All my musician ,very critical friends,. were knocked out...driving them with a crown K2. i did not realise that the 44's were only 44W.rms..bloody hell!! That is the reaction even from the ladies ,,,the guys were more descriptive.... Used various mixing desks analogue and digital ,out come is the same just delightfully, forcefully Powerful, tempted to use active crossover , as your video on those caps. frightend the life out of me.... I have 2 x dbx pa2's and an old 3 way stereo xo from BK electronics L.R. 24 dB.... And a stack of their omp amps.. If you want the original mid you can have it....its A1........ Great video.

[@MrRourk]

There are 44 II that are 100W

[@girishkukadia9916]

Brilliant project, thanks. Keep it up!

[@gezparks9630]

They sound superb even via my mobile phone! Really crisp and dynamic yet warm and engaging, musical sound. Keep doing your thing and let the trolls jog on!

[@haycrossaudio5474]

I loved these speakers. They've been brought by a lovely couple from Wales. I'm sure they will provide them many years of enjoyment. I will miss them so much. No substitute for big speakers. Especially these

[@Crmsnraider]

*thumbsup* keep sharin mate. Class

[@turntableman100]

Wow those speakers are totally awesome. They much better than a modern speakers these days. Am always thought there nothing like the heybrook hb1s speakers as they modern speakers too.

[@noble_wolf]

My cat ran off and hid when I played Black Sabbath's eponymous song through my Ditton 44s - he thought the thunder was real 😆

[@silverstreak2006]

Excellent job.

[@briancampbell7712]

Love this Ditton 44🎶✌️...guess you already sold them?

[@haycrossaudio5474]

Ages ago mate. The went to a couple in Wales

[@nickdoughty518]

Resistors in series will compromise the ability of the amplifier to damp the drive units don't you think? I assume you don't have to worry about cables having virtually no resistance.

[@angelodagnolo984]

Sod those internet twats probably doesn't even have a hi end setup. SITTING AT HOME WITH HIS EARPLUGS ON 😂 Great work Matt, really enjoy watching your projects!

[@nicksundby]

Superb video

[@MrBaseren]

Hello Sir, Wow i must say. So delightful to see a guy taking care of these gems. Im a big Ditton fan myself. Owned a pair of Ditton 15XR, but gave them to my brother. They hanging in his restaurant playing for the dining folks everyday here in Copenhagen. Now I've the 33s. Lovely pair. Mint condition. Now after watching all your videos with the 44s, im on the hunt for a pair of those. The sound you was able to get out of these old glorious boxes is just amazing. Which amp are you running then with? Thanks again, ive subscribed. Looking forward to see the restoration of those 44s you are working on from a client. Best regards from Denmark. //Nick

[@haycrossaudio5474]

Thanks Nick. These 44s were lovely to listen to. They turned out better than I could have hoped for. These demo recordings were using my Cambridge Audio Azur 351r. I tend to use a Cambridge Audio CXA60. Class AB. Hope that helps. Cheers. Matt

[@wikipat6675]

Well Done! i have a question for you what is the heigh of your speaker stand ? thk you

[@fthfhhdf]

my dad and I have a pair each. They are great but i hope i could learn how to repair and do them justice. they are sounding great but i think it would be cool to repair them up a bit. Maybe i will bring them one day ot a specialist but hard to find in france

[@conngocbh]

It is known that a crossover you made yourself is perfect. I am also very proud to have such a wonderful friend. Can you tell me how much does a pair of crossovers cost? Can I order a pair you can do?

[@addevries8163]

I also built a speaker myself. I then bought the audax TW 025 A0. Are you now using the same treble speaker? They are still sold new in the Netherlands.

[@humoursque8447]

Is it difficult to find a midrange replacement. Is there an alternative. Cheers.

[@haycrossaudio5474]

@@humoursque8447 not without reworking the crossover to integrate it I'm afraid.

[@ganck1147]

Very good sound…..better then many so called hi end speakers here on youtube. What amp are u using to drive these spks? Oh btw, what’s the title of the 2nd song used in this demo?

[@haycrossaudio5474]

I think you'd be spending a good few grand to get close. Amplifier is just my class AB Cambridge audio amp. Run them with a couple of others to.

[@haycrossaudio5474]

2nd track is called Pipe down by Bill Frisell. Off his East West album. There's a lot of good tracks on that album.

[@ganck1147]

@@haycrossaudio5474 thanks so much mate. Will check it out.

[@haycrossaudio5474]

@olanzipMK2 Nothing wrong with being nerdy 🤓. The clip were done on my 351r. Normally though I'd be using my CXA 80

[@haycrossaudio5474]

@olanzipMK2 Always been a fan of Cambridge audio amplifiers. Our Azur 351r in the lounge running surround sound is actually a great 2 channel amplifier to.

[@briancampbell7712]

are ditton 44 the sweet spot in the dittons?...better than the 66 or 88❓

[@haycrossaudio5474]

@@briancampbell7712 To me yes but I like the 22 as well. 66 to imposing. Never come across a pair of 88. In all honesty you can do better with a good pair of smaller speakers which can get down to say 60Hz with detail and imaging and then use a subwoofer

[@angelodagnolo984]

Btw, do you sell that paint you used on the speaker units? Mine are so ugly lol

[@haycrossaudio5474]

Hi. The black spray paint is U-pol power can Satin Black. The front baffle is wrapped in gloss black vinyl. The sides are wrapped in walnut vinyl. Hope that helps

[@angelodagnolo984]

@@haycrossaudio5474 I thought it'd be some special sound enhancing paint! For 500 a can lol Loving your content keep it up very interesting.

[@JorgeGarcia-be2uv]

They sound absolutely perfect. I am curious, what amp and source are you using here? Thanks

[@haycrossaudio5474]

Thanks Jorge. The sound clips were done on my Cambridge audio 351r amp and a sonos zp90 streaming Tidal. Basic kit but if they sound that good on every day electronics then there only going to sound better on better kit. I have run them on my other amps to. Just a lovely speakers. Cheers

[@marcinlis645]

Hi, I have questions. How they play something fast, rock/metal, electronic music, I every time see first on frequency response and they have very good. How it's in reality? Thanks for your help.

[@haycrossaudio5474]

Hi. These played metal and rock well. They didn't mind a busy track at all. Being a 3way design they have a dedicated midrange driver which is much lighter than most woofers you'd have in a 2way. That's what makes them faster if that makes sense. Whilst you then have a big woofer in a 3way it's only covering the lower frequency and not midrange. The speed of a speaker wouldn't show up in a frequency response graph. A speaker with a clean spectral decay would be faster and less stored energy. A distortion measurement would help also. If there isn't much distortion between the input signal and the speakers output then it must be fast as it's responding quickly to the input and not distorting it. Hope that helps? Cheers. Matt

[@marcinlis645]

@@haycrossaudio5474 I always check the frequency response because of the bass and the range of the music. I couldn't find the rest of the charts. I am asking you because you have these speakers and you probably have experience with others. I like the sound of Celestion, I have Celestion 5 which I bought for pennies and it plays with a very nice sound. Wide sound, with good bass in a sealed cabinet. Now I'm looking for a speaker for the living room that will play with bigger sound and with good bass. Celestion 44 has nice charts, and Celestion 66 is already a beast. Yes, your answer helped me because you are a reliable source.

[@haycrossaudio5474]

Ditton 44 are a great vintage speaker. If the crossovers are in good condition then your in good shape. The capacitors on the tweeter circuit are a particular weak point and can pop the tweeters if out if tolerance. Good luck. Shout if I can help

[@haycrossaudio5474]

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