How Jak And Daxter Is Changed In Japan

[@lunaneoma3894]

>Main character is tortured for 2 years in second game with a type of mind corrupting poison. >beard is too aggressive.

[@Keshav-il2hp]

*Goatee

[@sketchstevens5859]

It's a weird thing they have going when it comes too villains. Hirohiko Araki brought it up when he was doing a certain character in story

[@lunaneoma3894]

@@Keshav-il2hp a goatee is a type of beard lol

[@maxwellgage3483]

i dont mean to be so offtopic but does someone know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account?? I stupidly lost my password. I would love any assistance you can offer me.

[@louieriver6058]

@Maxwell Gage Instablaster :)

[@tailedgates9]

You know what's really sad? Some kid in Japan probably loved the first one, ADORED the second one and has been waiting for the 3rd and X for years..... :(

[@BottomBunkArt]

I can guarantee there is at least one person in Japan like that since there are so many people in America (myself included) who loved Japanese series and are still hoping for entries to get NA releases

[@user-vi4xy1jw7e]

It be like that

[@maninthecamohat2735]

Reminds me of Me wanting to read the Issak manga but they only have it in Japanese.

[@juice6521]

Japanese ratings board: NOT KAWAII ENOUGH

[@IERServer]

Best explanation so far, tbh lol

[@vinegardoppio2217]

america:it's hard enough Japanese:(translated) let's make it hard by increasing the hit box and change the desine.

[@jaydenshanleywaldron1746]

Yeah think about it tails Pikachu and all them

[@Bendilin]

>Japan was alienated by Jak II's more mature style >Only Japan liked the edgy Shadow The Hedgehog game WHAT DO THEY WANT

[@LadyPrincessDiana]

Bendilin I think what Japan wants above all is consistency. If a character or series is first introduced as fun and light-hearted, they want it to remain this way, and same if it's introduced as dark and edgy, which was always Shadow's appeal. Any change from what they are used to is not welcomed at all, unlike what we like in usually like in the West, when things evolve unexpectedly to surprise us.

[@SuperLucky7]

Bendilin You could ask the same about the US seeing as we praised Jak 2 for the drastic change in tone, yet bashed Shadow the Hedgehog for being dark and having guns unlike previous games. At least in Japan's case it makes sense since Jak wasn't that dark before, but Shadow was so the game didn't change anything for him. Also, personally I actually enjoy Shadow the Hedgehog and think it was a pretty good game.

[@PedoBearNomsLoli]

@Bendilin @Super Lucky 7 But at least with Shadow the Hedgehog, they made an entirely new character to be that edgy and dark character, rather than taking Sonic himself and twisting him into a dark edgelord as if some 10 year old gotten a hold of the character and made an edgy fanfic. Because that's what happened to Jak. Therefore, I can understand the Japanese sentiment since when I played the first game for the first time, I was like 'oh ok this is a light-hearted platformer with an adolescent "mute"'. But then when the 2nd game came around, I was like "whoa... this series just did a complete 180..." And apparently that blew the Western gamers and market's minds.....

[@joseph0098]

PedoBearNomsLoli i didn't find jarring the change of tone for Jak II and it isn't as edgy as Shadow

[@Thomas-te2lg]

I see no sales figures that confirm the Shadow the Hedgehog game was well received in Japan. If anything, sales figures seem to indicate Shadow the Hedgehog sold quite well in USA (1 million+ units sold across all platforms), while it bombed everywhere else.

[@magnus87]

Violence Japanese Game -> Light violence Western port. Violence Western Game -> Light violence Japanese port.

[@andrewrchooven1996]

Idk I don't really like violent Japanese games they're not that great

[@bjornfowler4002]

Bloodbourne

[@HuaEmpyrea]

@@andrewrchooven1996 Ninja Gaiden, Souls series, Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Bayonetta, NieR and NieR Automata, Silent Hill, Metal Gear, Castlevania... The list goes on. What are you on about, the best violent games come from Japanese devs

[@rainmabon8232]

It's seems mostly because during PS2 era. Western-made Action Adventure games that were violent. Were also very gritty. Something that wasn't too terribly popular in Japan at the time which alot of there games like Persona and Star Ocean while having violent themes matained the colorful anime-esque stylization.

[@thebiolibrary5572]

magnus87 except for with Kirby. There he gets angrier and angrier in the us.

[@joshuaheape558]

So they knew it wouldn't sell as well due to the darker tone, but made they made the Japanese box art WAY DARKER THAN THE WESTERN VERSION.

[@velocilevon]

Yeah, that definitely was a wrong move. In my opinion, this was the main factor why this game didn't sell well in Japan :) (though, if I saw that cover I'd want the game so bad)

[@AlexxxMYLSince2013]

But i wonder the japanese people didnt wanted to know how the story of Jak and Daxter continued?

[@sebastianlucas704]

@Estrogen Fury That's bit what he meant.

[@VVayVVard]

@Estrogen Fury Anime where the story goes from 'childishly innocent' to 'brutally dark' tend to sell well though. E.g. Made in the Abyss, Promised Neverland, Madoka Magica. I think transparency might hurt ratings by reducing surprise. Not sure if this was a factor in Jak 2's sales in particular, though.

[@LanceCorporalHawk30]

Jak and Daxter is literally my favorite game series

[@treal6489]

becuz Jak II was too difficult!

[@HelloGirKitty91]

I miss them soon much

[@Johnny_Rockafeller]

Dovahgatr sameee. Me and my brother would play it when we were little. But we didn’t have a memory card so we would wait till the weekend and then stay up for 2 days straight taking turns on the first one until we beat the game. Good times

[@jordanrader9281]

Yeah its myn aswell I wish to see more but in the style of the first 3

[@oliolieollie3516]

same

[@RedVGFox]

Fun fact, you can still select via hacking (or just using the default settings of PCSX2) the Japanese language for Jak X, with the result that the game text is all in English language and characters aren't voiced in-game (this means 0% localization, which is understandable since the series was considered pretty much dead in Japan at the time), but you can still see the Japanese flag in the options menu for some reason.

[@CensoredGaming]

RedVGFox oh, hey you! 😀

[@aleanddragonITA]

Red Do you known da way?

[@littlewrench3156]

Cheerful departure or not, Sony REALLY needs to come back to this franchise, as it seems like the only property they have left that appeals to a cartoon-esque aesthetic (especially now after Crash and Spyro no longer belong to them). If they realise that it doesn't necessarily have to be a "system seller" or a game that has to appease to current gaming "trends", it could do very well.

[@jv9ufxcy]

Virtually none of the developers of the Jak series work at Naughty Dog anymore, looking at the concepts for Jak 4 before ND started work on the Last of Us would turn you off from ever wanting them to continue the series. It had a good run, let it rest.

[@littlewrench3156]

I'm aware of it. Most of the crew left after 3 and X since ND was laying off loads of employees during their time revamping for the PS3. I can't imagine that would have left a good impression for a lot of them. Although, IF they do go back to it, they'd better stick with what it made special in the first place. I don't want another "Cinematic Sony Game that is totally not trying to emulate The Last of Us". I'm sick of it to death. So much wasted potential keeps getting thrown out the window because of this attitude. Here's to hoping that changes.

[@raphaelbrown6314]

Sorry but I must disagree with you on that dude :-\

[@keybladewielder9425]

Sony gave the rights to high impact games so...

[@Sikatau]

Ugh back when games had manuals. Sadface ;-;

[@Spiral-Mark]

Winty same

[@w0ng659]

Tbh no body ever fucking reads them and nether do i.

[@guillermo7298]

Linkfreak 404 sometimes they had some history details, characters, weapons, art work... I remember liking them because back in the day it wasn't that easy get info about your game, not just the controls and all...

[@raphaelbrown6314]

Yep my bullshit meter is going crazy after reading this

[@DoodleyDoodah]

I would read them when im bored but i can care less about them.

[@MickehPuppeh]

Jak II's Japanese box art is SICK. Man, that looks awesome.

[@LIONREV7]

Jak X Daxter? That was their mistake, they marketed it to Fujoshis

[@vgamissos5983]

? explain that please

[@LunchThyme]

NameXName in doujins (Japanese fanfic) generally implies intercourse. Fujoshi is slang for perverted girl.

[@HedgeHominoid]

In fanfic communities, an X signifies a romance between characters. And a Fujoshi (perverse-girl) is a girl who fetishizes gay-male pairings. But in Japan, the X is just used as a silent spacer in the titles of things. (So calling it "Jak X Daxter" is the same as calling it "Jak-Daxter")

[@interdictum2895]

I'm glad they took a darker approach with Jak II. Japan's an interesting culture, they're weird at times though.

[@MrDmoney156]

Interdictum And these are the same people that love School Days and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

[@vgamissos5983]

M2 most people in the comment section hate Jak II and 3 because of its "edginess" -.- (a.k.a the real world) those people only like cute and nonsensical games In my opinion Jak and Daxter in Japan looked very creepy!!! I would never buy a game like that if I was a kid I would be creeped out! and they looked so out of character too

[@interdictum2895]

They're edgy - and I love it. Can't say they're too edgy, though. You have enough Daxter moments to laugh your ass off or to roll your eyes. Eitherway, it's entertaining and it sure steeps the edginess a lot and introduces a lot of humor. In fact, I laughed even more in Jak II and Jak 3 than in TPL. Seems like more and more people are clinging to their imaginary bubbles to seclude themselves from the greyness of reality. As for Japan, they're just not used to it.

[@SIMIFU]

I honestly find Jak 3 isnt as edgey as jak II. I feel its a mix between the 2 games jak 1 and 2. Jak 2 makes sense though since he was tortured for 2 years with dark eco

[@JustAnotherPerson4U]

I agree the darker tone was good, while I completely felt like it came out of nowhere, the shift wasn't bad and it is still a good game. Both the first game and sequel games are good in their own right. It does help if you distance plays between them and compare them both on what they're meant to be not how much Jak 2 and 3 weren't like the first. I kind of wish that they did a sort of prequel/sequel where they go on another adventure between the first game and Jak 2. The jungle and light explorations of the first were really fun and it would've been cool if they could sort out the annoyances in the first such as the not that great control on zoomers and maybe give more levels with the bird. Oh and maybe more fishing games. You only got to do it once and then the fisherman laughs for the rest of the game.

[@mrThorleifsen]

Jak II japanese cover art looks sick!

[@fukkthisnewupdate8882]

Toornap Tarraa I know right!

[@LunyMilky]

soooo, goaties are evil!!

[@chimblemasterofchimney4771]

SATAN has a goatee!

[@LunyMilky]

yeah, he does! x'D

[@observingrogue7652]

Mikey Terry So Satan ruined the goatie, like Hitler the toothbrush mustache?

[@LunyMilky]

Hahaha!, that's a pretty acurate statement x')

[@TheGodlikeDragon]

But, I have a goatee....

[@Ryoten2289]

I can't be the only one who loved Jak 2? I mean the first game was great but when you under go years of Dark Eco, you'll be pissed too.

[@360Blader]

Blue Dragon Ryoten I'm with you, I like the series as a whole, I enjoy the adventures Jak and Daxter have been through and the changes were very interesting in the lore.

[@LunchThyme]

Jak 1 for the colours, nostalgia, and light hearted fun. Jak 2 for the atmosphere, big interesting world, and the jet board. Jak 3 for the weapons and abilities, epic-ness, and once again the jet board. Can't pick a favourite.

[@royal1015]

You are not alone , I find Jak2 the most enjoyable game to me out of all the trolgy

[@orangelighting5633]

Blue Dragon Ryoten Jak 2 is like my all time favorite game:)

[@maretama]

I love the whole franchise, it's one of my favorites honestly, I'm really amazed at how they dared to go for a darker tone then eventually balanced it out with Jak 3

[@LunaP1]

Can you the censorship between the English and Japanese version of Xenosaga series?

[@IDontDoDrumCovers]

I'd like to know more about games that dont do well in japan even though they did well in the west

[@BloodRedFox2008]

Metroid's a really good one right off the bat, despite being created in Japan and 5 of the games being made there the series has never been a big seller in that country, meanwhile it's often regarded very highly in the West (to the point Nintendo's had some entries developed by Western companies like Retro Studios and MercurySteam).

[@Lugbzurg]

I think I've heard Sonic does much better in America than Japan. Might've been something about media with a serious tone involving anthropomorphic animals gets a bit more leeway in America than Japan. Stuff like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, SWAT Kats, or if you wanna get really extreme... Maus.

[@Despatche]

@@BloodRedFox2008 This isn't true at all. The first three Metroid games sold about as well in Japan as elsewhere, huge considering Japan is just one country about the size of a US state. The first game in particular sold over 1 million in Japan alone, and was studied hard by basically every video game developer for years. This is a myth from the same people who brought you "F-Zero GX didn't sell that well" (GX sold about as well as X did, roughly a million and a half copies). The truth is that Metroid generally sold less game after game *anywhere*, which is especially shocking in the case of Super Metroid because it released at such a great time.

[@Despatche]

@@Lugbzurg This is pretty mixed up. The original Sonic games were very cutesy. The Mega Drive in Japan was always seen as a niche thing that could not really compete with the SNES, despite the majority of Mega Drive games being made in Japan instead of in the US or Europe (though EA sure tried). Even the PC Engine outsold it there. Instead, the decidely less cutesy Sonic Adventure games sold quite a bit better in Japan than the old Mega Drive games did. It's not clear why, but it almost certainly has to do with Sonic Adventure tapping into the same "street" aesthetic that was a big deal back then. And so you see Sega often appealing to Sonic Adventure specifically when they market Sonic stuff in Japan, particularly for anniversaries and such. Funny enough, Jak II/3 tap into a somewhat similar aesthetic, and there's really no good reason why Jak II didn't do well in Japan.

[@dylansurendranath3091]

Another good example of such a game is Demon's Souls, the game that started off the Souls series. Its original Japanese release did not sell very well, due to the brutal and punishing difficulty not gelling well with the Japanese crowd. Therefore, Sony refused to have it be released in the West as a result. However, people in the West had discovered Demon's Souls through word of mouth, about how "refreshingly punishing" it was, some even going so far as to find ways to play an emulation of the Japanese version. FromSoftware, the developer behind Demon's Souls had noticed this turn of events as well, however they knew that Sony owned the rights to Demon's Souls. In order to release Demon's Souls to Western audiences, they partnered up with the publisher Namco Bandai, which pretty much gave birth to its spiritual successor, Dark Souls. And thats how the entire Souls series became available to us! I know that's a lot of information I just talked about, but it is a strong example of a game that is beloved by Western gamers but shunned by Japanese gamers.

[@d1l4te43]

The first Jak and Daxter was really fun, but when I got Jak 2 and 3 I became absolutely addicted. Three is definitely my favorite as I believe the game had the most variety and things to do. It had its light and dark moments (haha kind of pun intended), silly moments, serious moments, the guns and vehicles were fun and cool, just everything. It's my favorite childhood series, and would love to see NaughtyDog make another Jak game. Even if it was a bit more realistic, just knowing it's lore friendly and brings in my favorite trouble making teen and ottsel I'd be happy with it.

[@PKMN37]

Really? Japan, the same country that's notorious for it's violent cartoons, censored death in the second Jak game?

[@gundambassexe31]

Jak 2 is my favorite of the series

[@ss2gora0]

Yep. I loved Jak3 the most as a kid but looking back, Jak 2's story is unrivaled.

[@Anonymous.Throne]

@@ss2gora0 I feel like this is the opinion that everyone who grew up on the franchise now has. During quarantine I went back & played Jak 2 & the nostalgia was crazy. Plus, I played Jak 3 religiously as a kid so it was still memorable.

[@Jay-LT_513]

@@Anonymous.Throne what makes 2 story better than 3?

[@Anonymous.Throne]

@@Jay-LT_513 storytelling & tone. Imo the story in general is better executed in Jak 2. Jak 3 feels a lil rushed with the Mar & Damas plot, but Jak 3 is probably the funniest in the franchise. Also I liked the fully functional Haven city in 2.

[@pilot3605]

I think Jak 2 and 3 are extremely fun games, absolutely love them, but, with the benefit of hindsight, the " dark turn" ended up stifling the series. Neither of them sold as well as 1, which was a killer application.....on the other hand, you look at Ratchet, which stayed true to itself up until the future series, and even still, it never changed too much. Even Deadlocked retained that style of humor/anti commercialism started in the first game. Insomniac definitely planned things better

[@markreyes7454]

Hella facts though, dude! And hellcyeah, i agree with yoy on the Ratchet series. Series took a turn when they released the future series. But it was a turn for the better, cause the Future series turned out to be amazing.

[@tenbeat]

I would love a similar video focused on the Sly Cooper series. Sly 3 was similarly never released in Japan until the Sly Collection on PS3. There are quite a few differences that I know of (I consider myself a pretty big Sly fan; many thousands of edits on the Sly Cooper wiki... no shame).

[@ZouneShot]

Didn't the tokyo ska orchestra do a pretty sick new opening theme for Sly 1?

[@tenbeat]

Warp Diver Not sure who it was, but Sly 1's theme song in Japan is called "Black Jack."

[@SUPERLAME4]

Bætnet I appreciate people like you for keeping a wiki up to date. Thank you.

[@LairdDeimos]

I think the change in tone was good myself. If I want to play the Precursor Legacy, I'll pull it out. The change brought completely different mechanics and game play, instead of stagnating like so many other series.

[@jakatak1832]

4:40. No, the last game was Jak X: Combat Racing. We don't talk about the last frontier.

[@SilentNinja2089.]

Can you do a Ratchet & Clank changes in Japan?

[@CensoredGaming]

Definitely one day!

[@AshXXMayftw]

He claimed they needed to change or risk getting left behind in the market. Yet, the Mario series has remained the same, and still retains a very strong presence all around the world. Perhaps they should have kept the Jak 1 style, but instead of making it grittier, could have focused on refining what made the original great, instead of throwing in a tone that far exceeds whiplash and the guns.

[@serge263]

Mario doesn't need to change that much. It's Mario.

[@AshXXMayftw]

Neither did Jak and Daxter.

[@qwertyMrJINX]

Mario's still relevant because Nintendo are still making Mario games. Jak faded because Naughty Dog decided they'd rather make Uncharted instead. It really doesn't have anything to do with the change.

[@jakanddaxtermisconceptions4409]

Completely disregarding your exceptional Mario example, I'd moreso say the collectathon concept is what needed to be changed for sure. With that said, JaD did need to change during THOSE times. You can't compare now to then. Back then violent games (like GTA) were popular. Jak II did good for a reason.

[@joseph0098]

AshXXMayftw well Nintendo decided to take some dark approaches to Zelda like Naughty Dog with Jak, at least they didn't fall into the Shadow the Hedgehog level of edginess

[@carlosJinx]

This really surprises me, I thought that Japan would be really open minded and accepting about the changes in the series

[@bystander5278]

Carlos Guadalupe Japan? Open minded? Really?

[@carlosJinx]

Yeah, I really thought so at some point

[@VVayVVard]

@@bystander5278 Uhh... yeah. I'm guessing you haven't played all that many Japanese games. Never mind watched anime. Tonal shifts are the norm.

[@VVayVVard]

Not enough info. The reason Jak 2 sold poorly might have had nothing to do with the tone-shift. Shifts like these are very common in Japanese games (Tales games do this every time). More likely there was simply too much competition at the time (the Japanese gaming market was way more saturated with new games, many of which were only released in Japan, than the Western market was). Alternatively it could be that the first series didn't do enough to make people want a sequel. Some people probably didn't like the censorship in the Japanese version. Maybe the cover wasn't good. Maybe the advertising wasn't good. Sales can be affected by tens and even hundreds of major factors. Spotting a correlation and immediately assuming causation generally isn't going to lead you to the correct answer.

[@bystander5278]

@@VVayVVard well you know Japanese people are the most xenophobic population in the world for example as many studies suggest. Just make a quick Google search and you'll see, that's not very open minded if you ask me

[@Stealfos]

That scatter gun blast at 2:14 looked sick as hell, they should have put that in the game.

[@MrMister681]

I'm sure it has to do with consistency. I don't think the Japanese dislike dark games considering how overly edgy so many anime tend to be.

[@Tl786964]

MrMister681 Yet it perfectly fine when they make major changes and tone shifts to their own franchises such as Zelda where some games are much darker/light hearted then others.

[@kingdjack6]

Nope they been Censoring the GTA series for who knows how long.

[@usagifang]

I love the Jak and Dexter Trilogy. The first time I played Jak II, I was amazed when I heard Jak spoke and that you are in a city.

[@bubblemage]

Damn so they only changed the goatee and the killing npcs thing. I expected more changes tbh

[@Ron_Junkman]

Japan likes cute, bouncy, and funny like games. The US likes dark, violent and bloody games.

[@gabrielgomez1395]

Really says a lot about how fucked up the US is, huh?

[@joseph0098]

Ron Gamer well not anymore

[@360Blader]

Ron Gamer Then again Japan releases dark, violent and bloody games like Shin Megami Tensei and Persona series eh?

[@joseph0098]

HelloFiora yeah, it's kinda weird that Jak II was a failure in Japan.

[@metasprite5648]

both countries like both at this point

[@AlexxxMYLSince2013]

Japan early 2000's: eww stupid western developers your games are to dark for US MORE KAWAII STUFFFF!!!! Japan ps3 era: hey guys i made a thing. DARK SOULS WTF??? 😕

[@Mcdonaldsslopper]

Well for every demon souls games there is 10 gravure games (sexy photography) in the ps3 era.

[@AlexxxMYLSince2013]

darkjudgeofd00m also that, and they call jak 2 inapropiate

[@pronounjow]

They want to have an easier time reaching the Western market. Seems to be working.

[@Despatche]

Demon's Souls was made as this super niche game that even the devs didn't think would sell much. Somehow it did, and not just outside of Japan. Then Dark Souls happened. It was a complete fluke.

[@kyarimaresuki]

I remember this era of Western characters. There was a look I called the "ready for action look". Brows furrowed, goatee. It was so common! I was a natural weeb since my teens in the nineties, I get the Japanese lack of acceptance of the aesthetic. But, it's always kind of sucky to change someone's work like that. :/

[@VVayVVard]

The game sold poorly despite the change. I'm guessing it wasn't really a factor in the first place.

[@zaizen4359]

Jak and Daxter will always remain one of my favorite games. I enjoyed Jak 2 and Jak 3, but for me the original is where its at. Although in my opinion they did a great job of transitioning us over into a darker world with the sequel, I miss the atmosphere of the original and the world that left me wanting to explore even more....I have so much love for it and it's really sad that we never got a real sequel in the same spirit. I never asked for an industrial atmosphere full of guns and excessive violence, and it's not what I wanted from a Jak and Daxter sequel. There were certain things I really loved about them (the Dark and Light Eco powers are awesome!) but ultimately they leave me feeling empty compared to playing the original Jak and Daxter. I hope one day they are able to reboot this series and take it in a direction that is more fitting with the original. I never bothered playing Lost Frontier after hearing about how they butchered the characters and story, but it's a shame the series left on such a terrible note.

[@Jay-LT_513]

I know this is 3 years old but I hope you reply. I love your comment and the reply above me because it's useful feedback that actually represents a lot of the community from what I can tell. Sadly a side affect of the tone shift is these two groups of people. I Love all the games and I can never pick a favorite but I've noticed I love them differently. Tbh I have plans to make some Jak mods and maybe even a game. It will take a few to many more years but it will happen with or without me. I've had thoughts about rebooting the series and either being faithful while tweaking things or just continuing Jak 1 like you want. I also cherished that Jak 1 style and happiness so I actually liked how Jak 3 seemingly brought a lot of it back with his Light eco, precursor armor and stuff, his hair resembling the first game more, and his more chill attitude. Anyway how did you like the temple levels in Jak 2? They added some nature and a more lively color pallet to your screen.

[@zaizen4359]

@Isa the Rebel I guess you can’t handle opinions that differ from your own? I’m entitled to my feelings and experience just as you are yours. Yours is just as valid as mine. You don’t get to tell me whether I’m a fan of a series or not just because I don’t feel the same way you do. When I say I enjoyed all three games, I mean it. I’ve played through the Jak series multiple times. However, the first game is what I loved the most. Simple as that. I think you could stand to benefit from being less closed minded about what it means to enjoy a game.

[@zaizen4359]

@@Jay-LT_513 It’s great that you’re thinking about making mods for the Jak series! A reboot or continuation would be very ambitious. Mods would definitely make for some fun! I agree regarding Jak 3. I felt the developers tried to bridge the rift atmosphere wise that they created when they took such a drastically different route with Jak 2. I enjoyed the elements they added, like more natural environments and the light eco abilities, but it all felt bittersweet compared to Jak 1. I actually really enjoyed the Temple areas in Jak 2! It was such a breath of fresh air for me compared to the environments in the majority of the game. It’s one of my favorite locations for sure. I think the Jak series has a lot of potential, but I also respect Naughty Dog for not just putting out a half hearted cash grab after the last game that came out. It makes me feel that if we ever do get a new Jak game, there will have been some real effort made to make it something worth experiencing.

[@Jay-LT_513]

@Isa the Rebel If I'm heavily involved then I can tell you that the atmospheres will not change. Any full on reboots would only enhance the key plot points and atmospheres of the game while introducing and refining more mechanics for travel and fighting. This should be the approach for any serious developer but of course there's external things that could always shift thing around like rules, money, politics, or voice actor availability. I personally want to avoid those factors as much as possible

[@Jay-LT_513]

@@zaizen4359 Yea I would find it very difficult to even improve the temple in level design, it's definitely one of my favorites too. Well in a reboot or just mod added missions I have ideas on expeditions.. Jak is an adventurous Hero at his core after all. This would give environmental variety and give Jak 1 fans a good way of having that style without taking away from the other. If you ever look at the map of Haven city from the large power lines of Barans palace then you'll see that there's actually a lot of forest land with precursor sites and then snowy mountains. I also would then get the chance for enemy variety and an excuse to introduce more boss Battles.. I really love them. Perhaps Monster Hunter World will inspire this singe it sounds like I'm describing it. Have you played that?

[@darkgenie3167]

Imagine the trauma Japanese kids would face if they saw jak with a goatee

[@warhammernerd52Daxx-Lorenzo898]

1:34-2:00 Daxter looks a whole lot more worthy, yes indeed

[@Kyrieru]

US: "Gosh, Japan sure loves cute things." Japan: "Let's make an anime about cute characters and have then die in brutal ways."

[@Jay-LT_513]

Girls also freaking love spooky things and drama so that actually makes sense. Remember it's a girl world due to them being the majority, the instinctual meaning and obsession for males, and the ones who are getting through higher education the most by far.

[@daxteryvillencourt9048]

I feel like the direction the series was a bit unnecessary, but I liked it. With that being said, the gameplay has a lot of potential but needs some improvement. Although, were Jak II's sales in Japan really that bad? The Naughty Dog timeline says that it sold a million copies in Japan in 2004. www.naughtydog.com/timeline/

[@Jay-LT_513]

Please tell me more about the potential and improvements you have in mind. I'm working on something that needs this feedback

[@Greytechsy]

Damn, i still have that Jak And Daxter: PL map up on my wall.

[@Squiggly-zg8zc]

Ok.... but we still want JAK 4

[@royal1015]

Jak is less handsome without his facial hair

[@Hjea]

This is a case where the devs did good in not giving a shit for the Japanese market and focused on US (or more). Sometimes a market is way to niche to adapt to and you can't blame yourself. Japan I know also has a problem with Korean based characters or plots such as mangas written in Japanese but made by a Korean not developing further than a manga. They have very specific standards and its not worth it making a generic product just for one island of a country.

[@DanteCrowlley]

*I don't understand the japanese standard for char designs, Shadow is ok but Jack goatee is "aggressive", what they want then? What is aggressive for their market?*

[@TRIFORCEJAY]

If only Naughty Dog didn't abandon Jak & Daxter we would have Jak 4 by now. Wishful thinking. Awesome video!

[@lihlin9285]

I mean they did release Uncharted 4 which I believe was originally suppose to be a trilogy at the time. Who knows? Unless a lot of people ask for it, it can happen.

[@JRVChama]

I wasn't even aware that this franchise had so many entries, I remember playing the first game and... that's it, I did know some people that played it and nothing after it too... I live in Spain and I pretty much never heard of any after the original aside of the Daxter solo game. I don't know how sales did over here but I'd say the awareness was greatly lowered starting on the second game.

[@brianworden7022]

Sucks that Jak 3 didn't release in Japan because it was an amazing game... sadly it ended on a cliffhanger that will probably never see a continuation to kinda like I bet we will never see a Bad Company 3 to get to see if Sargent gets his vacation to go fishing.

[@AlexxxMYLSince2013]

You know that Jak x exits right?

[@karinmitsutou]

失敗したかもしれませんが、それでも私はジャック×ダクスター2が今でも好きなゲームの一つです。

[@Twangy1]

4:02 I like that change tho! Always bugged me when you’d hear how the city looked up to Jak after I’d go ona spree as a kid😂 It’s like playing gta and being portrayed as a saint

[@nettune9980X]

4:00 it's like the Simpson ht and run were you can kick cillvans but can't kill them and the police will mow you down with their cars.

[@jakemurphy6515]

I feel like removing a goatee is always the right decision.

[@AlexxxMYLSince2013]

It was cool back then and also it always looks better in games and in cartoons than in real life

[@Lugbzurg]

The way how the Japanese censorship towards how you can no longer kill the civilians is quite a bit more amusing when you remember Megaman Legends. In the Japanese version, you cam more or less kick dogs to death. But in the US version, if you try to kick them, they will only react once, and you can't make them drop to the ground at all.

[@creative-name5279]

I'm mad that the Japanese got the really cool Jak 1 manual. I'm from the US, so when I was a kid I thought the foldout poster was the shit, but the Japanese ones come with freaking comic books inside! Does anybody know if there's a fan translation of the comic floating around the internet somewhere?

[@MrPomegranX]

Japan couldn’t hold the knife of edge.

[@marcuso4934]

David Hoyos That's a Surprise since America is the one who don't like Edge in Cartoons or Anime, but Japan's more open to a Darker Scary Story

[@marcuso4934]

Mighty Raccoon The Edge is as sharp as a Samurai's Sword

[@qrezt7212]

Wow ! Thank You So Much ! I like the name of your Channel !

[@freezingcandle]

I have to admit, Japan’s Jak 2 cover art is f*cking cool

[@LuChan1987]

Holy cow, the Japanese cover of Jak 2 is terrific!

[@aortaplatinum]

Interesting, I wonder if niche series over in other countries, developed overseas, have crazy rabid fan followings, like our MOTHER fans and NiGHTS fans.

[@devilovesdevil]

Omg Japans cover is so great

[@fierceditiesnaruto]

The lost frontier SUCKED! XO I love 2 and 3 the most! I still want Daxter's game for the PSP.

[@JakandDaxterAddict]

Jak's goatee was removed in the Japanese version because the Japanese have a disliking towards facial hair. They see it as dirty and the person as lazy and it's actually harder to get a job if you have facial hair in Japan.

[@sykeraid4944]

'Tis a shame since so many figures that are revered in Japanese culture (Emperors, samurai, even deities) are given facial hair. Even when Japan westernized in the late 19th century, many men adopted facial hair styles mirroring that of westerners (Emperor Meiji for example). Problem was that when facial hair declined in style with the West so too that it declined in Japan. And with facial hair becoming popular again in the West, it isn't gaining track in the East. And I'm going to make a wild guess and say that East Asians are attracted to femininity, whether male or female; if a guy can look more like a chick, the hotter he is.

[@TimGaukerToons]

So Jak suffered the same fate as Spyro did in Japan? A real shame. At least Jak 3 was eventually released in Japan unlike Year of the Dragon.

[@TimGaukerToons]

Linkfreak 404 The first two Spyro games flopped because of various edits that were made. Such as handholding tutorials. No camera control and slow movement speed, among others. Some of those were fixed in Todano Tours (Ripto’s Rage) But the damage had already been done. The only other Spyro games to hit Japan are Season of Ice and Spyro Orange: Cortex Conspiracy... and Skylanders.

[@TimGaukerToons]

HyperTwister “Spyro moves too fast, the camera is disorienting!” “I like the Gravity Daze, Gravity Daze is fast and the camera is chaotic” None of that makes sense either. Sonic is fast, Spyro is too fast. Why?

[@TimGaukerToons]

HyperTwister kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYuTdnqGirKjm9U I guess he was never meant to be...

[@LilyEmbargo]

I preferred the original style of Jak and Daxter. It is my favorite out of the entire series and I hope one day they go back to that.

[@exaflare]

I miss this series so much.

[@smittyjohnson9554]

The Japanese are missing out. Jak 2 and 3 are some of my favorite games of all time.

[@Delicashilous]

1:40 Sryyy Cooppaaaaa!

[@Bizargh]

I myself would've liked the ability to at least enable via toggle or cheat civilian invulnerability in Jak II & III. I've yet to play the games for myself, but when spectating my oldest friend playing the trilogy back in the PS2's heyday (Along with a whole collection of the console's classics), I found it so juxtaposing that the goal of the game was to join the underground & save the city, but it was almost unavoidable to kill it's civilians during gameplay especially during the more challenging vehicle time trials. Don't get me wrong, I did not find the overall change from Jak & Daxter to Jak II unappealing, but that one tid-bit struck me as a bit too much (Plus I never really got why they stopped calling the franchise "Jak 'n' Daxter"). Besides, decking civilians Deus Ex: Human Revolution style has it's fun!

[@RewindMike]

love the idea for this channel.

[@mr.hoothoot8758]

I like videos like these! Its amazing, this also show us the same perspective from the japanese developers porting their games for western audience. Would love to see more videos like this!

[@marcuso4934]

Hi Censored Gamin how are you? I'm Marcus nice to meet you, I just want to say I am a big fan of yours. Jak and Daxter is one of my Favorite Video Games Duo, Series, and Fantasy Adventure Game, and I hope they make a Official Fourth Jak and Daxter 4 or a Game about Mar/Jak as a Prequel Game that sets up Jak 2. From Marcus a Friend and Fsn

[@Jay-LT_513]

You want a Mar game that's before 2? So in the 300 year time skip because Mar was prominent 200 years ago.. that's how old the city is and he built it.. after that his bloodline ruled until the recent years of Jak 2 where Baron Praxis took over. Given young Jaks age this would have to be at most 5-ish years before the events of Jak 2, hell it's very possible that it was just before Jak landed in Haven city. It would explain why they were in such high performance and ready to arrest Jak suddenly

[@marcuso4934]

@@Jay-LT_513 a game featuring Mar as a character would be an awesome game if you consider the the beginning of the second game shows a Metal Head invasion. The Story beginning: Just as Mar and Younger Stamos arrives they are saved by the other sages and they train Mar to become a warrior, he actually starts to talk being inspired by his future self and time skip he fights off the Metal Head Army leading him to founding the city

[@PirateoftheTouYube]

I'm American, but the first game was far and away my favorite. I think I'm with the Japanese on this one...

[@K74amina]

i hated the tone shift of the 2nd game, so dark and edgy, GTA wannabe

[@Joeylinkmaster]

The first Jak and Daxter is the only one I like. I don't like GTA and Jak II just felt like a bad version of a series I already don't care for. I don't exactly need dark and edgy from a platformer

[@PikaLink91]

Ikr, I am European/Scandinavian, and I only ever replay Jak 1. While I do like 2 and 3, and hypocritically say that I am fan of darker stories in games like Sonic, in Jak I felt the shift was unnecessary.

[@phazonlord0098]

I also only like the first one. Jak 2 and 3 are so full of shovelware mechanics commom on games of the period that they felt extremely generic.

[@PikaLink91]

I mean, I like Dark Jak, he is cool as fuck. And Light Jak from 3 is pretty dope too. But I still didn't like that they went away with the lighthearted style from the first game.

[@mr.vidjagamez9896]

I still hate the series tone shift to this day. If they wanted to go darker without alienating the fan-base, they should have made 2 a title that slowly introduced the more "edgy" elements to the series.

[@Jay-LT_513]

What if they remade the first game nowadays and did that? Introduce a bow and/or a primitive gun and have a few deep story parts like maybe how Dark eco warped Gol and Mia minds. Then do Jak 2 Hope you answer even though this is years old

[@mr.vidjagamez9896]

@@Jay-LT_513 I probably would have been more fine with the tone shift if they did it like that back in the day, could have even had the climax of the 2nd game have Jak sent into the setting of 2 and realizing before the final fight that there was no way back. Would set up a plot of a 3rd game with a good hook then.

[@canis8307]

subbed because you did a video on my favorite game.

[@mr.oshawottryana.m.1785]

I think had Jak II been a bit more light-hearted like the original Jak and Daxter, it might have fared a bit better in Japan.

[@Lupo32]

In europe jak 2 is known as Jak 2 : Renegade

[@DreadNawght]

Ah yes, 2000's Japan. Still had PTSD from the atom bombs and needed lighthearted games to cheer up.

[@KoopaXross]

It is never a good idea for a sequel to go so hard the age rating has to be upped regardless of markets. Fans of the first probably weren't old enough to play 2 and 3.

[@shadowblitzo123]

Holy shittt, japanese box art looks gangster as fuck 2:54

[@ignacio6454]

Why change something that was good and was working? Nintendo gets this. You keep the character the same and with the same charm and simply make new gameplay and worlds around it. There is a psychological connection between the people and the characters, Japanese are wiser.

[@ignacio6454]

@LEO&LAMB Actually now I completely finished Jack 2 and I think it was INCREDIBLE, a really good game. Still I would like that Sony could give us the old innocent Jack and make games around him. And the same with the older Jack. I guess the point I was trying to make in the original post is that when you make a character progress so much, grow, change, age, etc. You are bound to lose the ability to make new games for that character. Instead Nintendo were intelligent in making Mario ageless and unchangeable, and by that they can continue making games forever about Mario if they want. Cheers then.

[@TheMightyBattleSquid]

1:00 DO NOT DO INTO THE DOG PARK!

[@kabuto1859]

We need a PS4 remake of his 3 games,Jak and Daxter,Jak II,and Jak III.

[@Emmartic]

You should cover the Resident Evil franchise as they have some heavy censorship in Japan (I know you covered RE7, but the others were changed too)

[@bostonboy9219]

Can’t get rid of the goatee on jack bro lol

[@Freshcornpop]

I feel like jak 2 had so much of an influence of my personality, I wanted to turn to a bad ass like jak did from 1 to 2

[@johnnyemezie4299]

I liked all the Games jak 2 was a shift but i wasn't wanna stay a kid forever and like that type of game.It was good they did that.Tho they could have done a better job on shifting it back after the last game since it started to get repetitive.(jak frontier)

[@sofaoverlord7501]

Jake X got me into Queens of the stone age. Best opening sequence.

[@jaydnxx]

We need Jak 4 asap !!im growing old!!!!

[@zidane4028]

You should do Sly Cooper next, that one had a fragmented release history in Japan...Ratchet and Clank would be great as well

[@rainynight02]

Some idiocy from an old friend of mine, he claimed there was a "rated M" version of Jak 2 that was more adult/sexual. He told me the strip mines had women all over, actually stripping. I didn't believe him back then, but haven't forgotten. Xp

[@Yoshi17111]

Daxters eye at 0:30 lmao

[@Jesse12489]

Never played the series. Looks good.

[@destinyawaitsx3]

It’s great

[@pronounjow]

Play the first one, The Precursor Legacy. You'll quickly find out why people love this series so much. I wouldn't bother with the other games at this point unless you really have the desire, willpower, and patience.

[@metasprite5648]

first one is generic banjo kazooie, the 2nd and third one are more unique

[@75qu0]

It's my favorite hands down.

[@75qu0]

You're the one that's embarrassing.

[@The22deltabravo]

Could you do the video about "How Sly Cooper Is Changed In Japan And What Happened With His Franchise In Japan", please?🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@Tim4Tat]

Please don't count The Lost Frontier as a Jak and Daxter game

[@kykylikeitlikeit144]

Is it just me, or is the lighting slightly brighter in the Japanese version of Jak 2?

[@Flamyll]

Honestly?... I didn't like the Gotee on Jak either o.o I toggled it off when I played lol

[@gunswordfist]

What's wrong with Jak II's shadows in the Japanese version when Jak was attacking citizens? Is that from cheap editing due to censorship? Also, I don't think I've ever heard of The Lost Frontier. Is it any good?

[@TheIntimateAvenger]

The Lost Frontier is a trigger word for hardcore fans of the golden age of platformers. Walk into any used game store and just mention the title to witness the hatred.

[@sushiSlayr]

I think he was using emulation, which explains why not everything was perfectly rendered, like the shadows. The Lost Frontier is a game you should stay away from. It loses a lot of what makes the original games so great. You lose the comfortable movement and controls, the variety, the interesting characters, the high framerate, the seamlessness of progression, and the polished level design in favor of linearity, stiff movement, flight segments that take too long, and tons and tons of weird and lazy gimmicks as their idea of variety.

[@gunswordfist]

ty Nori

[@ssgoku7192]

Jax and daxter 1 was Rated E And Jax and daxter 2 is rated T Since it’s darker and more swearing

[@noctistali3629]

Lost Frontier does not exist XD

[@ssgoku7192]

When I looked at all swearing it made sense since this game is rated t so swearing is fine If it was rated E no Well crash in crash 4 says kickass coco in the 106 ending