Central Line Last 62 stock train a film by Fred Ivey

[@jayneherbert3824]

I was travelling on that exact tube on its last journey - from Oxford Circus to Stratford, I recall the announcement about Mile End I think, "If anyone is interested, you are travelling on the last ever service of this kind, its a historical moment" - something like that! I was quite proud. They felt much more like London than the new ones ever did, I loved the nostalgia of them.

[@Totto1944]

Fred, thanks for making such a good record of the London Underground. It's very much appreciated.

[@Richardsrailway]

despite their wiring faults, these were fantastic machines, alot more sturdy and reliable than the 1992 crap that had its traction motors drop off in service, these trains had character, they looked the part, sounded the part and smelled the part, w.s graff baker thank you, and you too fred!

[@PeteS_1994]

TRIPLEVALVE62 THE DEPOT Sturdier, yet they only lasted 30 years?

[@MrStd70040]

Lovely film. I lived at Newbury Park from 52 until 74 and commuted on the Central from 70 to 76 so new 1962 stock well. Great trains.

[@matthewbrown3420]

Didn't last as long as the A Stock. Maybe did more mileage. I have always thought of the A Stock as a bigger version of the 59s and 62s. Same brakes, compressors but more powerful version of the same traction motors.

[@capB1535]

I drove 62 stock from 1974 till 1995 and always found them very reliable, only serious fault i had was a no1 fuse blowing at Epping.

[@QuarioQuario54321]

As for the 92 stock?

[@capB1535]

@@QuarioQuario54321 A few serious defects but got out of them, I was always tripping MCB's on the road the best way for my trainees to learn how to deal with them in my opinion.

[@oludotunjohnshowemimo434]

Because they were reliable like the 1959 stock, some were transferred to the Northern Line to replace the less reliable 1972mk1 stock?

[@metadyneman]

I still come back to look mournfully at this video.. such a shame we haven't got a working example of one of these trains in preservation like the 38TS

[@NC-002]

There might be soon, Cravens Heritage Trains are restoring one at Hainault in working order, so keep your hopes up.

[@metadyneman]

A nice film about a much loved prototype. They were the final evolution of the 1938 stock yes, and they did ingerit a few of the problems associated with that stock, but it was only very poor maintenance and driving techniques of some of the more imapatient motormen whacking the DMH right round to full speed at a crawl which caused a lot of the breakdowns. In essence these were fine machines and they are missed greatly. Lovely film and thanks for posting it

[@Zlervo]

I miss these trains dearly. I remember vaguely the guards on the trains but I do remember clearly wanting to press every button I saw at the end of the carriage. ☺️

[@kinkisharyocoasters]

Couldn't you do that? I mean, it's not like the buttons did anything without a key

[@Dolemaster124]

i miss the old 38-62 trains

[@ianmcclavin]

If I remember rightly, it wasn't quite the end when the 1962 Stock left the Central Line. Two units saw some further service on the Northern Line after the Central had a full run-out of 1992 Stock. I was fortunate enough to have a ride on one during this brief spell. It was a shame to see them go, many a trip from Bethnal Green to Oxford Circus I did with my late mother as a kid in the late 60's/early 70's, before I was old enough to travel alone! (I don't know what she would have made of the 1992 Stock, with the all too easily breakable armrests!!) I eventually got to ride the entire Central Line in the '62 Stock (including Epping - Ongar) in later years before withdrawal.

[@Flore440]

Eh bien, je constate avec plaisir qu'il y a des francophones amateurs de ce bon vieux Tube. Le bruit de réchauffement du moteur de ces rames, notamment à la plupart de leurs arrêts en gare, me terrorisait quand j'étais petite. Mais je confirme que les wagons conçus dans les années 1990 pour annoncer le Millenium n'ont pas autant de charme.

[@TimBrownTwo008]

This film very much captures what it was like to travel on the 62's on the Central line. I think they were reasonably reliable for their age & at the end the Westinghouse brake was very good if you knew how to use it properly.

[@patrickthomas1035]

As a MOTORMAN IN THE 60`S 70`S I WOULD DRIVE FROM W/RUISLIP TO EPPING USING W/HOUSE BRAKE ONLY JUST TO BRAKE UP THE BOREDOM AND MY GUARD NEVER NEW THE DIFFERENCE ////

[@leonard2005ify]

I miss the 1962 stock trains, I think the first time I sat on it in 1984 after I left Walthamstow, I didn't get used Victoria line, I was a baby, but I got used the central line that quick with that stock and the last time I sat on the 1962 stock on the central line was in 1994, but I got scared of them when they were kind of weaker when the lights used to come off and on between mile and Shepherd's Bush.

[@kimpossibleyescruelladevil4960]

When my grandad was a train driver on the central line my grandad used to drive the 62 stock trains notes he joined in 1967 and retired in 2001 yes I know he was only 50 But he was very ill he did have a heart attack in the early 2003 which was about 1 1/2 years after he retired which thankfully he survived and he still lives today at age 71 and he is also the reason why I know that bank has a curve platform

[@evanslater4551]

Is there a video anywhere of the first 1992 stock service?

[@natashadunn6033]

Yes

[@evanslater4551]

Could you send it to me

[@oludotunjohnshowemimo434]

Two of the 1962 stock still work as Sandite Rail trains on the Central Line.

[@ALANSWEETIES99]

Very nice train for Central line, is very sad has been withdrawn Central line isn't.

[@bf2404]

What a lovely looking train. Especially inside. Why replace something that was solid and running so well. It only needed a lick of paint IMO. Tax payers money gets wasted left right and centre.

[@leonardssenkindu5802]

B F true, this was my old line and I miss the less stock

[@bengo940]

@bronzeonion i agree but i think they would have still looked dated as when they were introduced, they were based on 1938 stock whereas the A stock seems like it was a new design. Isn't it amazing how tube stock which have been running in service a longer time than 1962 stock don't look outdated? For example the 1973 stock although you could argue that it got refurbished.

[@matthewbrown3420]

Wikipedia says the A stock owe a lot to the smaller 1938 stock. So they are all part of the same family. A stock had the same brakes, compressors (A60 anyway) and a more powerful version of the same traction motors..I thought the A stock traction motors sounded like a 59 or 62 stock on steroids. So loud.

[@FART-REPELLENT]

When a particular Underground train batch’s end is in sight, maintenance work on them ceases, thus they are allowed to deteriorate hence why they look worse for wear in their last few years in service. The A Stock was no better, it would have looked just as bad had they not been refurbished and maintained.

[@andydrew2003]

I've always liked it on the older stock when the lights would momentarily flash out when going over points or picking up a new traction current (if you get what I mean).

[@kinkisharyocoasters]

@Leonard Ssenkindu me too when it happened on the new york subways i grew up with

[@kinkisharyocoasters]

Doesn't it still happen on the Piccadilly line?

[@CarpeDiemTraveller]

@@kinkisharyocoasters yes!

[@oludotunjohnshowemimo434]

Some got shipped off to the Northern line to.make up 3 car half units whilst the remaining 4 cars were 1959 stock

[@josephlonsdale7687]

The underground as I remember it. Central line from Gantshill. From Chigwell in my school days.

[@evanslater4551]

That’s right. I actually live in Chigwell but my local station is Hainault. My school was in Chigwell. We could have gone to the same one 😂😂

[@josephlonsdale7687]

@@evanslater4551 on the hill?

[@evanslater4551]

@@josephlonsdale7687 ??

[@josephlonsdale7687]

@@evanslater4551 The public school

[@ianbillericay]

My friends dad was a guard on these. I did have a go of the door panel, the guards seat was quite handy to in rush hour if you know how to lower it.

[@DesElmes]

The 1967 stock ran only as far north as Seven Sisters during its final month of service due to the commissioning of a new signalling system between there and Walthamstow Central. Did something similar happen between Loughton and Epping during the 1962 stock's final days on the Central? I can't think of any other reason why the final train didn't go all the way to Epping...

[@A60stock]

I have posted an example of door problems in Fred's film By Train To Ongar, where train has problems with a sticking door at North Weald. 67 stock after some teething problems has proved remarkably reliable. This was in part because at Acton works design engineers had access to the car records of previous stock so they could design out faults. I regret that since design has passed to the manufacturer improved reliability in a new generation of stock is not a foregone conclusion.

[@harryelliott4310]

Central Line 1962 Tube Stock

[@NC-002]

I think the lack of enthusiasts might've been because they were sent to the Northern to work alongside the 1959 Stock and the 1972 Mk1 Stock.

[@NoddyMaccy]

There is a working 1962 stock train but its a adhension train.

[@oludotunjohnshowemimo434]

Noddy Mac there are 2 on the line. one 8 car working the east side and one 5 car working the west side.

[@NC-002]

There's also a couple of cars scattered around the UK in preservation, including CHTL's 4 car unit at Hainault.

[@thecyberleaderwhufc]

U can still see one at Ruislip Depot

[@Nick_80599]

Not so much the last day when some of them ended up on the Northern line because of the 59 stock falling apart.

[@mitchellgiffard1978]

I actually like this 1962 stock trains to the new stock tubes there were faster & more efficient when or once in service.

[@FART-REPELLENT]

While I absolutely loved the 1962 TS, the ecceleration rate is higher on the 1992 TS trains

[@Doomsday2060]

Not up on my 1962 stock, only ever used 59 stock... The unit shown in the first three minutes of the video, was it ever refurbished? It still looked very, umm, 50s (maybe it looked dated when it was introduced seeing that it was built around 62).

[@FART-REPELLENT]

No the 1962 TS was never refurbished; however, they were modified to make it possible for them to run alongside the 1992 TS when the 1992 TS was in the process of being delivered.

[@Zlervo]

Fantastic

[@DesElmes]

Hmm, that's interesting. Cheers superteacher1000. ;)

[@jaredini]

Sounds like the 67 stock when it gets galloping.

[@Wildlifesupernannyfan]

Did they go to the Isle of Wight railway 🛤?

[@colinwells3982]

Fucke that's wY back back into timeo

[@NoddyMaccy]

The Central line is very much neglected in my opinion when it comes to trains. It is clear by the visual and audio in this video that these trains were knackered and the 1992 stock barely has any attention or TLC. If LU put more money into them they would be nicer trains and wouldn't be referred to as 'cheap plastic'

[@FART-REPELLENT]

The main reason why in this video the 1962 TS train sounds bad is because it is London Underground policy to cease maintenance work on stock that is nearing the end of it's life, it has happened to all previous batches of LU trains, and will continue in the future.

[@FART-REPELLENT]

The reason why this particular train of 1962 TS looks neglected is because within 4 years of scheduled scrapping of trains their maintenance is withdrawn as it's not economical to maintain trains on the verge of being scrapped. For example the 1972 and 1973 TS trains are on their last leg, new replacement trains will be delivered from 2023, thus you won't see any repainting of the 1972 and 1973 TS trains.

[@FART-REPELLENT]

The reason why the 1962 TS train in this video looks knackered is because when a particular Underground train batch’s end is in sight maintenance work on them ceases and so they are allowed to deteriorate.

[@colinloc]

Its a mundane point but I'm struck by the apparent lack of enthusiasts particularly the over-enthusiastic type who can blight a good day out.

[@NC-002]

That's because it was arranged at rather short notice, if it was better publicised it would've been much busier.

[@r27redbird]

nice trains but they needed to go...