NOVESKE N4 GBBR - EMG X CGS - In Depth Review Airsoft

[@mattdoebler9345]

Just purchased an unfired 2012 N4. Probably last of the batches John Noveske had a part in making before his death. I am tickled beyond belief!!!!

[@Cephas858]

That’s amazing. Noveske rifles truly stand apart! 👍

[@ajpotter7151]

Really great review! Thank you a lot for making such an in depth review. Keep it up!

[@Cephas858]

Thanks for watching and the comment! Very appreciated. 👍

[@MugenZeroX]

That thumbnail is a masterpiece

[@Cephas858]

Thanks so much!

[@sleazykilla360]

except for the terrible magpul

[@JStar27]

The DE noveske n4 version is fully TM compatible.

[@OperatorJackYT]

My Favorite GBBR this Year! Love runin her! :D

[@JOSHHARRIS-v3w]

Not too many reviews out given it’s relatively recent appearance but I gotta say I love mine! Performs very well out of the box.

[@VENATOR_Airsoft]

which magazine do you use?

[@JOSHHARRIS-v3w]

@@VENATOR_Airsoft I’ve had no problems with my CGS Lancer mags. It’s super hot here this time of year so I’ve been able to get a full mags worth of ammo out no problem. Could probably get 2-2.5 mags off of one charge but I haven’t tested that so don’t quote me. This is kind of off topic but my buddy got the DE N4 and the CGS mags work waaaaay better than the mag it comes with. Not sure why, haven’t torn down either of those mags.

[@VENATOR_Airsoft]

@@JOSHHARRIS-v3w interesting, thank you. :) How is the DE N4 going? is it good too?

[@JOSHHARRIS-v3w]

@@VENATOR_Airsoft I haven’t had much time with it but for whatever reason, it was having a rough time attempting full auto. Could not get even 5 consecutive shots out on auto. Semi seems to work just fine. I have no idea why that may be. Other than that it feels pretty good. Really light but fairly crisp trigger. And can take the CGS Lancer mags. Also has the infamous ZET plate. CGS is not a true MWS, just copied most of an MWS. But MWS mags will not feed in my MK18 none the less sit in the rifle properly.

[@VENATOR_Airsoft]

@@JOSHHARRIS-v3w okay, thanks Buddy

[@douglasdauntless4945]

Thanks for testing the emg Lancer mags on a TM. Wasn't sure if they were compatible with my DE N4. Fyi, DE trigger box is nearly all steel.

[@JOSHHARRIS-v3w]

I have dropped a couple of my lancer mags. No leaking issues after drop but the top back right corner of the mag where the bolt catch lever is, the metal folded in so now the the bolt does not lock to the rear after the last shot. But obviously only for that mag. Haven’t attempted to fix it quite yet however it looks like I can use a punch to bend it back a millimeter or two.

[@minicm122]

So let me ask! After your experiences, would you say then this rifle although with it's internals is still even worth buying? Would it be worth buying just to then go ahead and pay around 300 to change the internals to be TM compatible? We are still not even talking about magazine costs... yikes.

[@Cephas858]

@@minicm122 I would recommend buying the Double Eagle Version instead.

[@michaelstringer1840]

Thanks for the info I was curious about there gas system in general.

[@sleazykilla360]

there? the gas system that's over there? did you mean their? as in the gas system that's theirs?

[@michaelstringer1840]

@@sleazykilla360 maybe I really wanted to give someone a purpose to correct me. Cause they’re’s nothing better to do.

[@JBAIRSOFTIRELAND]

I don't have one but if you are having issues with the TM Mags not feeding, open up the front feed lips on the mag slightly, the BBs will push through easier from the BB push arm under the nozzle. You don't need to file or dremel a lot just a slight bit ether side of the front lips

[@midnitejmpr9429]

So I’m looking into getting a gbbr for the first time. I want to get the DDMK18 CGS but plan to swap out the internals to full TM (drop-in trigger box, GM EVO bolt) and plan to use GM pmags. Although being a bit costly, there shouldn’t be any issues right?

[@Cephas858]

@@midnitejmpr9429 with that setup you should be fine.

[@flintbackwoods1416]

I just got the EMG DDM4 PDW and the stock mag is getting 2 full mags plus 7 on a 5 second charge. This is at room temperature. I also noticed the stock mags are lighter than GHK Gmags.

[@chasemartin2555]

See this is interesting I have the de version of the n4 mws and the tm bolt works with the original trigger assembly and you do have to take off the from of the rifle to change the inner barrel so it’s not quick change

[@Noise-fe6dp]

what gen is this?

[@TheWeekendShooter308]

@12:00 get GM EVO magazines. You can adjust the pressure on them

[@Songo77483]

Are you able to hop 0,4 bbs with the stock bucking?

[@steban2348]

When replacing the "T8" system with the original mws system, does everything work well?

[@Cephas858]

Yes. However, if you plan to use TM MWS mag the feed lip needs to be replaced to something like a guns modify feed lip.

[@jurekwisniewski786]

Bro, does Magpul pistol grip suits well without any looses or anything else? Please help me, I want to put this moe K2 grip to my Noveske also

[@Cephas858]

@@jurekwisniewski786 Magpul grips fit well and without modification. No issues.

[@jurekwisniewski786]

​@@Cephas858Thx man!

[@ghostnnx]

Where did you buy it from cause I can’t find it in a tan color anywhere or did you paint it yourself

[@Cephas858]

@@ghostnnx www.evike.com/products/103135/

[@vladimirsamardzic963]

By the way perfect video ❤

[@KenPatrickODia]

Some of the N4 Devgrus i see have the 5.56mm marking below the “Model N4” in the lower, despite having a 300 BLK upper. Do you think that’s proper and clone correct?

[@AYAYRON-1204]

Still thinking to get one, mostly because of the look. Can I actually put aftermarket light MWS bolt carriers in it?

[@Cephas858]

Noveske guns just look sick. My shoot amazing now. You can put MWS carrier in. But you will need to replace the trigger box/components to the MWS ZET trigger.

[@AYAYRON-1204]

@@Cephas858 got it, so it will be MWS trigger group with MWS carrier.

[@StetsonNLD199]

Got the aeg version. Really like the external quality

[@jamesisiah16]

I have a broken TM mws (internals are fine). So would I be able to take the internals out of my mws and put it into this? Great video btw

[@Cephas858]

Yes. The MWS trigger box and bolt will work fine.

[@jamesisiah16]

which version would you recommend since I’m swapping internals. This or the DE version?

[@Cephas858]

@@jamesisiah16 if your going to swap the internals anyways I would go for the DE version since it cost less.

[@Gbrmkrs]

Will u please tell me if whats trigger system ur using and the bolt carrier ? Because I want to changed my bolt carrier and trigger system that came with CYMA which cost 329$ so it wasn’t cgs but like I said I just want to changed to be all t8 cgs system

[@Cephas858]

The trigger box shop.jkarmy.com/dy-mws-tb01-jk.html The Bolt Carrier Group shop.jkarmy.com/gm0549.html

[@Gbrmkrs]

@@Cephas858 thank you so I’m ordering the daytac trigger box like what you have but the complete bolt that you have is out of stock so I’m only able to get the v2 guns modify or hao complete bolt u think it should be fine ?

[@ten15studios20]

@@Gbrmkrseither one of those choices will work.

[@zaneelliott7538]

Does gas last a good while?

[@Cephas858]

If you are using the Tokyo Marui MWS magazines, then yes.

[@Clapybara]

How is the suppressor mounting? Any wobble to be found?

[@Cephas858]

The mount is solid. No wobble at all.

[@MrMi123456789]

I wanna get a silencer for mine, which one are you using?

[@Cephas858]

It’s a replica of the Deadair Sandman S.

[@geogeor15]

Hi m8.I recently bought it and after a few shots it is broken down.Now it shoots at 150fps max and it drops the bbs if you face the replica down.I tried multiple hopup settings and all are the same.No mods maade to it.Any ideas to try until the site i bought it responds?

[@Cephas858]

My guess would be there is something wrong with the hopup bucking. Perhaps there is excessive oil in the bucking. Maybe get a cleaning rod and attempt to get the oil from the bucking as much as possible. Maybe.

[@steban2348]

What internal parts did you replace to make it compatible with the mws mags?

[@Cephas858]

You just need to replace the feed lips on the mws mags to make them compatible. I recommend the guns modify feed lip.

[@longbowsiu6806]

​@@Cephas858 i saw someone said only need to replace the nozzle to unicorn one will fix the issue and can save a lot of money, dont know is that true or not.

[@Cephas858]

@@longbowsiu6806 we tried this with two different guns and neither one worked.

[@longbowsiu6806]

@@Cephas858 sorry to hear that... Really appreciate your test.

[@RIghtWingBrentPetersonSupport]

Hey man i was wondering if I could pay you to ship that gun over to canada. The shipping prices and the double, triple stuff is making stuff hard to purchase. Please let me know if youre down for it thanks.

[@nonenone9594]

15:57 MAN thats a pretty big flaw, wish they came out with a sort of "forward assist button" on the gun. what a shame.

[@knightairsoftwarrior]

Would this version be T8 compatible and then the double eagle version is TM compatible?

[@Cephas858]

This version is TM compatible but you need to replace both bolt and trigger pack. T8 BCG and T8 trigger packs aren't compatible with TM. From what I have read the DE version seems to be a direct copy of the TM MWS. Not sure about the quality of the internals.

[@joehernandez2506]

​@@Cephas858do you have the initial release or the revised version from evike?

[@Cephas858]

@@joehernandez2506 our guns have the white lettering on the left side of the lower receiver. According to my research this should be the revised version. Purchased in August 2023.

[@joehernandez2506]

​@@Cephas858gotcha thank you I've been eyeing this gun and I've seen people saying they got their mtr16 bolt or GM bolt to work with the revised cyma t8

[@mr.spaght9424]

What suppressor is that if I may ask?

[@ten15studios20]

Replica Deadair Sandman S by Airsoft Artisan.

[@crewgadjy]

Should have got the TM MWS Spec Double Eagle.

[@Cephas858]

For sure. Hindsight

[@JosheYT]

i want one with a 300 BLK dust cover but the one on evike only has the noveske logo

[@Cephas858]

Both of ours came with the 300 BLK dust cover.

[@JosheYT]

@@Cephas858 and it’s the double eagle one? also are you in U.S.? cuz i hear they sell/ship did ones depending where you are

[@Cephas858]

@@JosheYT ours are the EMG CGS version. But the double eagle version is the better choice from our experience. You can always get the 300 BLK dust cover aftermarket.

[@FrogmanDOGE]

Can you send me the link to where you got the gun and the suppressor please

[@Cephas858]

www.evike.com/products/102356/ shop.jkarmy.com/angry-gun-s-style-dummy-silencer-with-acetech-at2000r-tracer-module-14mm-ccw.html

[@SakamotoAtsushi]

Anyone know will it work if I keep T8 Bolt and Trigger Box but change Nozzle set and Mag lip to Gun Modify ?

[@mehmetaydin7437]

So basically u can take everything out and slam a mws system in ?

[@Cephas858]

Yes. Or get the Double Eagle version.

[@mehmetaydin7437]

@@Cephas858 sad i cant get an DE in my Country no one is selling it

[@earljohns5718]

hi cephas, you share my dads name,. 😊.great contents. great advice with the T8 bolt, as i use T8 nozel in my TM. im a tech from england 2decades serving and subscribed to share my finds as my magazine, which ive procured first as i gave up the change of getting one, for the purchase of a siega 12. So now im waiting for my N4 noveske Tan 😊.So yes ill keep in touch. (great name).

[@Cephas858]

Thanks!

[@luisrobles1502]

Hi, so to use MWS parts I would have to change the trigger housing and bolt to have more reliability? Where did you get them?

[@arkliuchannel2913]

Great video

[@ericc2530]

What gun stand you using?

[@Cephas858]

It’s a 3d printed stand from Etsy.

[@chillzilla870]

Question, would the Guns Modify 35rnd PMAG’s work then? Because of the lip? With the stock T8 system?

[@Cephas858]

I haven’t tested it. But it should.

[@chillzilla870]

@@Cephas858 awesome thank you for the reply

[@tomaszskowronski1406]

2:55 I always prefered flannel daddy Garand's "Tip to butt"

[@canadiangoose1451]

So it’s bad because it’s not a TM?

[@Cephas858]

The gun is advertised as being TM MWS part compatible but it isn’t. The T8 system is not gas efficient. Not usable in cool temps unlike the TM MWS. The trigger pack is inferior when compared to other trigger packs. Like I said in the video, if you look at this as a complete gun it has problems. However as a Noveske kit, it’s a good deal. Or simply get the Double Eagle version which is 100% TM compatible.

[@vladimirsamardzic963]

Bat remember it's not NoveskiN4Double Eagle it's Sima,big difference

[@NoodDoodAirsoft]

So because you didn’t like the trigger. You changed all the internals and then complained that stuff wasn’t as compatible as they said… as opposed to just running it stock and reliable with a meh trigger?

[@Cephas858]

In addition to the trigger I said the T8 system is very gas inefficient. The stock T8 was sluggish when compared to a snappy MWS. It was unable to run Tokyo Marui MWS mags without modification, which in my opinion are the best MWS mags due to durability and gas efficiency. The supplied T8 mags aren’t that great.

[@sylithics]

The double eagle n4 Mws is completely compatible… I have one and the trigger boxes the bolts are all tm spec.. t8 gbbr’s are trash.

[@stacyjackson1255]

I guess everyone is having different results with theirs because mws mtr bolt functions smoothly with stock box

[@lukedw73]

Eye pro when shooting dude!

[@101Navyseals]

If you’re gonna use NVGs use an IR light.

[@Cephas858]

For sure. We used an NGAL with the IR Illuminator. It looks over blown due to the night vision recorder.

[@patrickm.blanchard8497]

There is no point in you having a Hydra mount for the NGAL if you aren't going to get your support hand farther down the gun. Thats the whole point of that mount

[@DragonNectar]

can you do a review on the VFC BCM MK2, if possible

[@INSTASTABZ]

I know the new batch works with mws mags mow

[@Cephas858]

Do you have personal experience with this? When we ordered ours the same was said about that batch. That would be nice if they indeed corrected this.

[@INSTASTABZ]

@@Cephas858 when did you order it? Cuz I have a friend who got the cyma and works perfectly. I am waiting for mine. But to be honest I might of regretted it cuz I have the double eagle, I have 2 and both if u place a aftermarket bolt. It seems to out perform my mws , and the trigger is amazing no signs of wear after 5000 rounds

[@Cephas858]

@@INSTASTABZ we ordered in early August.

[@INSTASTABZ]

@@Cephas858 yes they were not fixed or you just got the previous gen. Do you have white letters on your lower receiver ?

[@Cephas858]

@@INSTASTABZ ours have the white letters on the lower receivers.

[@zedekiahtheservant9786]

Remember, guys: If you have NVGs, there is no need to flood the target with light.

[@Cephas858]

For sure. I didn't mention in the video that the light you are seeing is an IR light. Only visible through NVG. With that being said the IR emitter on my device could use some diffusion. Thanks for the comments. God bless!

[@zedekiahtheservant9786]

@Cephas858 & thanks for the video!

[@earljohns5718]

Bang bang

[@MartinJHarris]

My Noveske N4 is the MWS version... it's better and cheaper..!

[@NeoMartel]

This is DE, but GE WA clone na much better rifle.

[@MartinJHarris]

@@NeoMartel this is the T8 from CYMA not MWS from DE :)

[@lofighost8811]

Good 4u

[@CrtksVision]

putting hydra on an N4 you sir have no respect hahah

[@Cephas858]

Agreed an Irregular defense OMM would have been better, but ohh well. Lol

[@TheWeekendShooter308]

​@@Cephas858 ehh they're all friends anyway and they all use the same guns. Now you just have to find a Agency Arms P320

[@vladimirsamardzic963]

That's Sima not Noveski N4 that's not same gun's l now because I shoot both of them,Sima is ruined 😢itN4 Noveski mws is totally different look and see for your self and yas N4 work with t8 magazine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😈 Double Eagle made N4 not Sima

[@tcct4618]

Cyma is the better and newer version

[@vladimirsamardzic963]

@@tcct4618 you see video, how is that better than n4Double Eagle,tha gun is full off flow's tiny bat man has wright in the video, Double E has not bolt problems and the final distance is on another level Sima has some catching to do,just admit it or tray bouth gun's 🙏🎯 barrel and hop is on another level on DBn4,86metars easy with DBn4 with 0,28bls 💯🎯💪

[@vladimirsamardzic963]

@@tcct4618 ai now using 14,5 Golden Eagle and is Perfect and cheaper than both,N4DB or Sima,ya she shoots 545fps,p,20 bat ai use 0,28 and400 and something fps real Beest and Beauty 🎯

[@kdevere]

​@vladimirsamardzic963 where's the footage of you hitting a man sized target at almost 300 feet with .28s ?

[@Airboss007Channel]

Bruh I know u didn’t just check the barrel o see if a bb is in there lol😂😂 what a larper

[@ccking2617]

This is a damn airsoft gun. I got catfished. Clicked the vid cuz I thought it was a real noveske. SMH.

[@adrianwong19971010]

eyes protection bro

[@sleazykilla360]

another great gun ruined by magpul garbage.

[@CryeBaby]

L riser ngl

[@CryeBaby]

Otherwise i like it lol

[@ExiLeZH]

Understand the practicality of it, centers the weight and makes the height of bore comfortable, however I hate the looks of it so much lol, that's just subjective ofcourse.

[@Cephas858]

@@ExiLeZH for sure. When I first saw it I hated it too. But it slowly grew on me. I might switch it out for the Irregular Defense OMM.

[@ExiLeZH]

@@Cephas858 That sometimes can happen yea, or not ;) Tbh I'm not even familiar with OMM, I'll check that out. Loved your other setup though, with just the eotech, unity riser and peq upfront.

[@CryeBaby]

@@Cephas858you should