Ceramic Mountain Bike Brake Pads - Less Noise, More Power

[@mtxbraking]

Worth noting - 9.9 times of out 10, riders can throw these in WITHOUT new rotors or ANY "prep" and hit the trail (IF your rotors are within the proper wear-limit which should be stamped on the rotor). Bed-in time is almost immediate as well. Dan mentioned prepping / sanding the rotors - this is always a good idea, but not necessary UNLESS you get noise out of our brake pads. And Dan - we need to see if Pottery Barn would be interested in stocking these - great idea.

[@Fincher123]

I would say that Disco Brakes from UK got them Earlier. I run Ceramic Pro over 3 Years from them now, super silent and verry grippy! Oh and the proce is great =)

[@mtxbraking]

​@@Fincher123 Hi Finch - most likely if they're cheap, they can't be formulated or manufactured in the same manner. There are all kinds of cheap standard options out there.

[@johndixion6378]

@@mtxbraking can you make some for Hope e4?

[@mtxbraking]

@@johndixion6378 We are working on it - believe me. Tons of requests for it - they will be available in late Spring.

[@johndixion6378]

@@mtxbraking sweet !

[@stephenkrause6059]

I bought a set of these and have only been on them for 2 rides, but these are Squamish, BC rides so quite rowdy where a lot of braking, especially modulation is required and the difference was very noticeable. These brake pads performed so much better than the mfg brake pads. I still have a few rides to test them on, but so far I would highly recommend these brake pads.

[@RideAlongside]

Cant wait until they have them for Hope. Already contacted Kevin and sounds like he will have them in 2021 sometime.

[@brennen-nwamtb789]

I might have to pick some up for my Hayes dominion a4!

[@johannesrink3211]

But do they offer those pads dir Hayes A4? Because I also run those on my Bike.

[@mtxbraking]

@@johannesrink3211 yes we do. Fanatik has them in stock right now. What a great brake set by the way....

[@johannesrink3211]

@@mtxbraking thanks for your quick reply. The Hayes brakes are phenomenal. Got Thema because Remy metallier did a vid about them 👍. Can I geht your Pads in Germany aswell and which one would you recommend for the A4? Cheers. Jo

[@mtxbraking]

@@johannesrink3211 hi Jo. We are working on the EU and would love to setup distribution over there.

[@johannesrink3211]

@@mtxbraking would be super nice. But which Pads would you recommend for the A4? Red or gold.ones? 🚵

[@jessehill3780]

I’ve been using koolstop pads for a long time as a good aggressive yet quiet pad. Nice to see another option but really need to see someone do a real pad comparison because there are a lot of good alternatives to stock out there now but no one has done a real review. Fibrix, koolstop, galfer, MTX, trickstuff etc...

[@Marc28031984]

Ok nice, now I’ll have to try them on my MT5

[@tsalesto]

Wow, I've just been swearing at my brake noise on the snowy trails for a couple weeks, you even managed to select the very pad that fits my brakes for the vid 😁Looks like I'll have to order some.

[@FanatikBikeCo]

Cheers! They aren't noise free, but they are quieter than metallic pads! www.fanatikbike.com/collections/mtx-brake-pads

[@KurtisPape]

I've been buying Ali Express brake pads for $2.50 aud each, they are metallic compound, kevlar and copper inbeded and aluminium backed. Ive tested them and they are perfect even under sustained braking. Ive always had problems with sram metallic pads, shimanos are excellent but the sram pads im always having issues with them never getting the full life out of the pads, they glaze over usually about half way into their life.

[@FanatikBikeCo]

That's good to know, quite a bit less $$!

[@KurtisPape]

@@FanatikBikeCo Its scary cheap! Thats why they shouldn't be suggested. I have no idea if they will wear quick or could even become unbonded with backing plate hahaha. Ive only used them on the rear until ive tested long term. At least if you buy branded products the testing has already been done. These ceramic pads seem to be a better option then sram.

[@antoanangelov5672]

@@KurtisPape bonjour bro. No hate but Ive been using set of metalic sram pads F and R for over 14 MONTHS NOW. And Yes I RIDE EVERY DAY. They are near their death tho already ordered new ones when that does happen. I also find they glaze but thats pretty easy to clean 🤣. I'm super happy with the performance and all so yes Im sticking with OE pads.

[@FanatikBikeCo]

@@KurtisPape I've used them a bit after putting them on for this video, they are legit! The power seems a little more usable (in terms of modulation) than the metallic ones, and they have sort of a "softer" feel. Reminiscent of organic, but with max power like metallic pads. The biggest difference though, and my favorite, is that they are just way less noisy when wet, which is lovely. And yes, as a bike shop I don't think we'll be reselling Ali Express pads to our customers, just to ensure a quality experience. It is cool to know about though, so I'm glad you shared. As a broke 20 year old I would have absolutely given those a try! Cheers - Dan at Fanatik

[@KurtisPape]

@@antoanangelov5672 My road bike ive had for 4 years, I swapped from resin to metallic after 1 year on my shimano brakes. 3 years later of only riding mountains and thrashing the brakes, they haven't even worn down. But sram guide pads I clean them with sand paper, disk brake cleaner, swap rotors etc and always my 2 piston road brakes 140mm rotors are more powerful than 200mm 4 piston sram. Anyway I'm on cheap pads and ive finally got the power I want

[@BMH1965]

Noise is energy - energy generated from friction. More noise energy means less heat into the system for the same speed as quieter systems.

[@ASAP2525]

Poors oil on your rotors

[@ianmangham4570]

Ceramic always for me, last TEN times longer than any other I've tried 😄

[@MrBubba3494]

How about rotor wear? Does it wear noticeable faster than with organic pads?

[@darrinkulyk9560]

Im Going With A HD And a Red Each Caliper 😎

[@djtrets]

I have tried those pads in the front wheel and are way more noisier than metallic pads braking power is amazing but i am not sure if id be safe with those pads considering getting metallics for the front too. Maybe i need to replace to bigger rotors for steeper hills, i think this pads are great but they probably wear more the rotors.

[@skullsroad3642]

Wish they had a Formula Cura 4 application. Brakes are one area I'm really interested in and constantly trying different brands to find what works best for me.

[@mtxbraking]

We are working on the Cura 4 too; we have a dealer in ID that loves Formula brakes so we made the 2p Cura for them first; Cura 4 is next.

[@skullsroad3642]

@@mtxbraking I'll be on the lookout for the release, thank you.

[@zacg2953]

sweet

[@adanielweaver]

The SRAM Force brakes on my gravel bike get so loud when wet that it's embarrassing to ride around other people

[@mtxbraking]

We have lots of gravel riders using them. One customer I can think of said the same thing - he would ride with buddies and on their longest 4k descent, his brakes used to start howling from the heat exhaustion with the OE pads, but our Red Labels were quiet and consistent throughout the descent once he switched over. But yeah - its embarrassing to be howling everywhere you go.

[@jaspreetsidhu5708]

I use shimano on and don't mind the noise. Let's people know I'm behind them of annoying guy pulling into the café with a giant smile on his face.

[@fbmowner]

I'd order them if I wasn't worried about usps loosing my order for over 2 weeks haha

[@pollyaloy]

It’s a shame they dont sell these in the uk

[@luyennguyen7406]

I'm currently running the MTX Red on new 203mm rotors. I've just purchased a set of the Mtx Gold pads. Do I need to get new rotors or are the Red and Gold compounds compatible on the same set of rotors? Thanks

[@Indictedheart]

So Just Bought the Code RSC & plan to buy Hope Floating rotors, & the MTX red Lable Pads, Will they work with Hope Floating Rotors?

[@tonyhruzek4250]

I have not run metallic pads, not much need here in Texas, but do these pads need a rotor built to take metallic pads?

[@mtxbraking]

No - neither the Red Label RACE or the Gold Label HD need any special kind of rotor or one suited for metallic pads. Whatever you have, as long as they are within the proper wear-limit, will work perfect.

[@Chromedome-ss6mg]

I'm running organic, nice and cheap and quiet

[@buddyjohn]

KZbin suspends my account twice in one day wtf,, ill be nice from now on,,, I'll try the HD"s on my moonlander soon, merry Christmas 🎄

[@terrybarkman3219]

Should re-do this test again. Start at both the same speed.(maybe use a speed radar gun, or a tow car) then compare both again. And multiple runs to simulate a long descent. And Properly bed them in😄

[@mtxbraking]

Good idea. We will try to get up there this summer and do some fun back to back tests with them.

[@FanatikBikeCo]

That would be the right way to do it, for sure, and it sounds like Kevin from MTX is interested in making it happen. My own primary concern for this particular video was how much noise they made vs metallic pad compounds, b/c it's such a common thing in the oftentimes wet riding conditions around here. Like you said, we definitely didn't control all our variables, but even so the difference was significant. Thanks for watching! Dan at Fanatik

[@tevahflys]

Can you use the mtx pads with organic specific rotors

[@FanatikBikeCo]

Yes, the rotors will wear out more quickly, but nothing wrong with that. - Dan at Fanatik

[@stevenparisi]

When will you have the HD available to purchase/preorder?

[@mtxbraking]

We are talking to Fanatik right now about another order for them already, which will also include plenty of Gold Label HD. They should have them by the middle of next week / end of week (we can update this to confirm).

[@stevenparisi]

@@mtxbraking excellent. Looking forward to trying them!

[@darrelltaylor8822]

What flannel is that dude wearing? Looks good.

[@FanatikBikeCo]

Thanks!! It's an older one made by Club Ride. I like it a lot. Cheers - Dan at Fanatik

[@lucassolorzano6460]

Any way to get these for Magura MT5s? I love their magnetic pads

[@mtxbraking]

Yep we have them. Either call Fanatik and ask to order them or they are available on our site. I’m sure Fanatik will have them in their regular inventory soon too. Part number is RL205 for you.

[@lucassolorzano6460]

thank you!

[@jacoe33333]

So it’s not nessasary to prep the rotors for these pads. Can I go back and forth between my oem metallic pads and the mtx red? The mtx pads won’t contaminate the rotors that will contaminate the oem metallic pads?

[@FanatikBikeCo]

It's not necessary, but does help a little. - Dan at Fanatik

[@CreamyBone]

Say goodbye to your rotors? 😉

[@kevingorzny]

Nah they are pretty easy on them - in the same way an organic pad wears a rotor. Very similar lifespan. Sintered will be the benchmark for high-fast-wear for rotors.

[@mtxbraking]

Either of our compounds will be no-more abrasive to a rotor than common organic / semi-metallic brake pad. You're right, "ceramic" sounds very hard on a surface, but they really are not.

[@antoanangelov5672]

@@mtxbraking Did u do any testing to see if there is more power, bite with ceramic pads or was the main focus just a quieter system? I clicked on the video for the MORE POWER part

[@mtxbraking]

@@antoanangelov5672 Our primary focus was performance - power, yes, but delivery and progression of the power delivery (its similar to testing an engine on a dyno - it may make incredible power, but it needs to be usable too). Quite honestly the silence was a happy by-product of the compound formula, it just happens to be what a lot of people focus on and appreciate as well.

[@chrisblackburn715]

My metalic pads dont sound anything like that bad. Sounds like you have contaminated rotors.

[@FanatikBikeCo]

Just wet. They all do that to varying degrees when wet. Cheers - Dan at Fanatik

[@obi-wankenobi9871]

33$ for a pair of brake pads. Are you guys fucking high?

[@richardjones2811]

Try rubbish some dirt on the pads or ride through a muddy puddle to replicate actual riding conditions. My brakes don't squeak when they're wet only after riding in muddy conditions.

[@mtxbraking]

Good idea - we'll get up there in the spring (hopefully) and do some more-extensive demonstrations with them.

[@GFClocked]

Sounds pretty similarly horrible to me...

[@FanatikBikeCo]

After actual trail use, in wet conditions there is still squealing, but it seems to go away more quickly than metallic pads.

[@mtxbraking]

I think Dan would agree that this wasn't the best testing method. They are *notoriously* quiet in most conditions, which we keep hearing over and over from tons of riders who use them. Performance is the top priority, the silence was just a bonus function.

[@ianmangham4570]

Poor guys throat sounds sore

[@FanatikBikeCo]

Just my voice. Haven't figured out much to do about it :/ Cheers - Dan at Fanatik

[@yanikmueller5757]

Please cough

[@FanatikBikeCo]

Done! Cheers - Dan at Fanatik

[@antoanangelov5672]

most disappointing review ever. Also I missed the part where there is more power????????????????????????????

[@mtxbraking]

Our primary focus was performance - power, yes, but delivery and progression of the power delivery. Quite honestly the silence was a happy by-product of the compound formula, it just happens to be what a lot of people focus on and appreciate as well.

[@tjeers3098]

Useless

[@FanatikBikeCo]

What's that? - Dan at Fanatik

[@tjeers3098]

Very non scientific

[@FanatikBikeCo]

@@tjeers3098 kzbin.infoUgkxr8VCZsSN-8RrRfCz2uwpXO2z3t_k-JGv Agreed. Agreed so much I said it twice in the video! Thanks for watching - Dan at Fanatik