This is actually the commercial Mercury recording from about 1959. I can tell because Monsieur Dupre accidently grazes the adjacent C-Natural key with the little finger of his right hand while playing the final B-Major chord. It was such an exciting performance that they decided to use it with the mistake intact. I have this disc in my library.
@georgemurphy25795 жыл бұрын
How do you know which fingers he used to make the error......were you standing over him?
@solomonshepherd48245 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing this out. I heard the C and thought that he may have done it on purpose to add chromatic colour, but a perfectionist like Dupre wouldn't have done that. I also really liked to hear how freely he plays, and wouldn't have expected this from someone who is primarily known for technicality.
@solomonshepherd48245 жыл бұрын
@@georgemurphy2579 The little finger of the right hand is the only one possible, because all other fingers are occupied somewhere else.
@georgemurphy25795 жыл бұрын
@@solomonshepherd4824 I play the work, for years now. It is alto (a.k.a. middle) C. Hi right thumb obviously caught it with the playing of the B Major chord. Dupre had large, dexterous hands. It was no mistake, believe me. I actually like it!
@solomonshepherd48245 жыл бұрын
@@georgemurphy2579 Makes it sound a bit like Karg-Elert. The only thing that puzzles me is that Dupre always taught to strictly follow the notation. Whatever, I like it, too. Greetings fellow organist!
@euripidiesupman97555 жыл бұрын
Back around 1985 or 86, I was working in Wilmington, Delaware. One weekend I visited Wanamaker's store in Philadelphia and was fortunate enough to meet Keith Chapman and sit next to the console while he played this piece during one of their noontime concerts. It was life-changing.
@khingdheano10 жыл бұрын
Definitely Dupre. I had this recording back in the '70s and listened to it so many times it is engraved on my soul.
@judithsochor97556 жыл бұрын
khingdheano
@MolnarPohdap12 жыл бұрын
I own the LP version of this recording, and I listened to it countless times for years. This is definitely Dupré playing at St Thomas Church in New York City.
@georgefieldsjr.6408 жыл бұрын
all these Great organist composers...giving the organ in Heaven a Good Workout !
@wupperfeld15 жыл бұрын
Many Thx for this document - wonderful !
@gryphone10010 жыл бұрын
This is definitely the Mercury recording made at St. Thomas Church in New York City. There are two giveaways: the editing (there was a great deal of editing because of noise from the subway under the church) and the wrong notes in the third from last and next to last chords at the end.
@Theoriginaltkg290210 жыл бұрын
Quite right, I haven't heard that recording in years , but heard it so much as a child , its like riding a bike! I happened to walk to St Thomas Church a few years s ago on a Saturday morning after a visit to St Pat's across the street and some one was even rehearsing the Chorale in E major from the same album !
@cromorno87495 жыл бұрын
Infact, I don't think this is the St. Sulpice's organ.
@TheOrganiston9th6 жыл бұрын
Always a favorite! Anyone familiar with E. Power Biggs’ Columbia recording? Also opens with a Poulenc track - on the other side, something in G minor, a beautiful symphony. The entire recording (1949) is VERY stirring and beautiful.
@MartinSmithMFM5 жыл бұрын
Concerto.
@M5guitar14 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite tune.
@gerardbedecarter11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this.
@DIYerGuy10 жыл бұрын
If anyone is wondering where this recording was made and who the organist really is: It was indeed Marcel Dupre and it was recorded by Mercury records in 1957 and released on their Living Presence label. The original release was of course on vinyl disk. The original selections were subsequently rereleased on CD in 1992 after most of Mercury's original master tapes were converted to CDs. The instrument is the Skinner organ at St. Thomas Church 5th Ave. New York City. I have both the original vinyl disk and the CD of the recording. The Pièce héroique heard here is from that CD (or vinyl if you prefer) because, aside from Dupre's distinctive playing and interpretation which is superb, and of course knowing the recording and organ itself, the 2nd to last chord has the exact same mistake as heard in the uploaded recording here. Someone commented that it's probably not a church but rather a "hall". The acoustics at St Thomas are rather dry and not typical of most stone churches and the battery of organ pipes are in the alter area and do not speak directly out into the nave. As a result, most of the organ's sound stays within the alter area and there is little reverberation. The CD also contains the three famous organ chorales, as well as works by Widor. The CD is available as a single disk from Arkivmusic at: www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=4088
@MartinSmithMFM5 жыл бұрын
alter - alter to altar!
@CrummyNails11 жыл бұрын
one of my favorites
@xylopiano39 жыл бұрын
I like the fox in your profile picture. It looks like he's grinning like the Cheshire Cat!
@wupperfeld14 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful document !!!
@Blockedify13 жыл бұрын
This is the recording MD did in 58 at St. Thomas/NYC, along with the 3 Chorals. I'm quite certain.
@gryphone10010 жыл бұрын
P.S. I don't mean to be critical of Dupré's playing. I love this recording and have had it in various incarnations since I was in high school.
@passacaglia2814 жыл бұрын
I would fave this a second time if that were possible. What a hauntingly beautiful piece this is.
@charlesdavis70878 жыл бұрын
Marcel's technical fluency and compositional genius... live now in thousand of students around the world. The word "definitive" fits well. When he said, "This is the way; walk ye in it," carries meaning that transcends time. "Piece Heroique," indeed. Vive al Muse. CVD
@HiringAPtAdvocate10 жыл бұрын
Peter Sarro, recorded in 1957 it would be on G. Donald Harrison's last A/S organ, Indeed he died one hot NYC evening during the haste to finish it for the 1956 National AGO convention. If you made a trip to St. Thomas you'd find that the acoustics have been greatly improved due to the coating of the porous material with which the church was made. The church has signed a contract [with Dobson, I believe] for an almost new organ with a similar case on the south wall bringing more of the organ's pipes into the main axis of the nave while others will still be in the choir area of that beautiful edifice. Some pipes will be retained, though few. Perhaps some church will gain some treasured ranks from years past. I know Riverside Church got some of the A/S ranks when G. F. Adams made changes. TY for this posting. I never got to hear the Harrison in person.
@mrstevebournias8 жыл бұрын
not more pipes fewer
@Tracequaza8 жыл бұрын
this is the best thing ever
@fdsjdhasd13 жыл бұрын
I am stunned.
@musicalhotcha12 жыл бұрын
There are several French TV broadcasts of Dupre available from the Association des Amis de l'Art de Marcel Dupre (AAAMD) in France. Difficult to obtain,but very instructive to watch.
@advisorC10115 жыл бұрын
Such an incredible man!
@ramjetrabbit12 жыл бұрын
I too have this recording. But I can't play it because I don't have my turntable hooked up anymore. Rats!!!!! I've been to St. Thomas in NYC for recitals many years ago. What a thrilling experience.
@georgemurphy25795 жыл бұрын
All available on CD .... go to Amazon
@sailormann113 жыл бұрын
@Blockedify concur: I have this recording on CD, Marcel Dupre performing at St Thomas NYC on the Mercury label, I believe. Recorded by a woman whose last name is Cozart, I think? She engineered alot of Mercury's recordings in the 50's... I think using a (then) unique three-microphone recording pattern. Similar to what is now reknowned as the Decca-Tree (3 fine Neumann mics flown on a tri-pattern). Maybe TMI, but yes, this is Dupre at St Thomas. Fine Aeolian-Skinner. J-D Harrison's last.
@georgemurphy25795 жыл бұрын
It was actually a single LARGE microphone in the center near the chancel. Dupre had problems recording the best organ recordings ever made. The subway underneath the church, and, the one LARGE microphone that unnerved him throughout the sessions.
@japansekip10 жыл бұрын
Me too, also one of my favorites becouse of the organ. This one has a friendly sound and acoustic. Of course a fine player.
@JFSnail15 жыл бұрын
It is from the St Thomas organ recorded by mercury Living Presence in 1957, re-released on CD by Philips no 434 311-2 :-) The organ heard here is as it was left by Aeolian-Skinner and the last organ worked on by G Donald Harrison. It was rebuilt by Gilbert F Adams in 1970 and remains the same today until they rip it out. Weird thing is, they say it would be cheaper to build a new organ than to repair the old one!
@georgemurphy2579Ай бұрын
When you posted this it was still the Adams rebuild. Since five years ago the new Dobson has replaced the original instrument.
@philippetallec21808 жыл бұрын
J adore !
@maxsnafu13 жыл бұрын
@Miraphone186Player That's because Murray studied with Dupre and wrote his biography. And this is indeed an old (1957!) recording Dupre made at St. Thomas church in NYC on their Aeolian-Skinner organ designed by G. Donald Harrison. When Dupre returned to Europe he decreed that the Americans were making the finest pipe organs in the world.
@maxsnafu Жыл бұрын
from 1957!
@georgemurphy2579Ай бұрын
Michael Murray was Dupre's last student. His obituary was just posted the other day...RIP M. Murray.
@davidlofgren65787 жыл бұрын
A fantastic organist no doubt about that. But Franck himself played his own works more free. The Lemmens tradition from Lemmens to Widor and then to Dupré made a more strict Franck interpretation. Though I like his climax choral part close to the end where you get the sense of Franck and romanticism!
@MrSergeiRachmaninoff10 жыл бұрын
Great Halloween Music!
@MrTransalpin10 жыл бұрын
C'est magnifique de l' entendre sur le plus bel orgue de France conservé dans toute son authenticité: Le Cavaillé Coll de St Sulpice et son admirable acoustique ! Marcel Dupré: Quel génie ! Quel pédagogue ! Il a; même joué sur un orgue de cinéma à tuyaux !
@kahuna5149 жыл бұрын
This is TOO perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@HiringAPtAdvocate10 жыл бұрын
Kevin this organ was destroyed decades ago. I first went to St. Thomas's in high school and it was already a different instrument. I have played a couple of recitals there and the subtle, lush sounds were long gone.
@GrupoChucumite12 жыл бұрын
I have this recording in a 5 record set called a Treasury of Organ Classics.
@davidhamilton19819 жыл бұрын
Inspiration for Boellmann's Toccata from Suite Gothique?
@Wennichmichnichtirre8 жыл бұрын
Probabely...but both "inspired" by Alkan´s "Symphonie", op. 39 No.4
@MrQuebec15 жыл бұрын
Très beau document sonore.
@hoppy31813 жыл бұрын
You mean Michael Murray sounds a lot like Marcel Dupre. Dupre is the original artist that most organists aspire to sound like and play like. He was probably the finest organist in the world during his lifetime. Not only are his written compositions masterworks for organ but his improvisations are still some of the finest ever performed, impromptu by any performer.
@minedarea13 жыл бұрын
@Tajoumaru I can still hear it.
@sailormann113 жыл бұрын
Sorry- meant G-D Harrison e.g. G. Donald Harrison (not J-D Harrison--- sorry)
@asdadadasdqweqeqeqwe11 жыл бұрын
f......Epic!!!
@3NUNS15 жыл бұрын
Yes
@vt87755 ай бұрын
The build up was insnae
@christianguinier17635 жыл бұрын
Quelle bonheur de pouvoir écouter un enrgistrement du maître de l'orgue !
@claviergoren13 жыл бұрын
The master playing a masterwork!!
@akelofgren94683 жыл бұрын
I as Chopin was the greatest nowadays they just call me weakest lausest and so so what is the point with all when even moron is said to be bigger stronger more beautiful than me and l can no more do my duties musical or anything else
@gammaltkonto80669 жыл бұрын
Bra inspelning!
@searchfgold678911 жыл бұрын
So many artists who play as such. Do they shadow the music because they don't want to show off? It's weird.
@1401JSC15 жыл бұрын
Mais Franck a écrit l'œuvre pour l'orgue du Palais Trocadéro, pas pour l'Orgue de Saint-Sulpice où dupré était titulaire. Serait-il de la volonté du Pater Seraphicus que l'on trouve d'autres sonorité que celles qu'il avaient expérimentées? The left hand note in bar 7 is too long, strange manipulations of the swell pedal bars 25-28, I don't hear much of the added reeds bar around bar 30....need I go on? this is a wonderful interpretation which does not even respect the score:
@davidpender74173 жыл бұрын
It's a rainy night and one can hear an organ being played at the bottom of a lighthouse. Yeah I know it's weird but that's my imagination.
@chubbtm512 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who finds Dupre's recordings dull? I wait in vain for an inflection, a personality, and all I hear is the metronome. Having heard many recordings of Dupre's playing, I admire his keyboard command but I'm disappointed when it comes to the musical result.
@MartinSmithMFM5 жыл бұрын
True, but this is Franck as written.
@timothytikker11474 жыл бұрын
Martin Smith but not Franck as Franck played it: by all accounts, his playing was very free. Franck's student Tournemire -- among others -- emphasized this in his writings, as well as his recordings.
@mw11stuff3 жыл бұрын
5:10 - this is meant to be ff !!
@mewsdo11 жыл бұрын
No, there's two of us. Maybe he was (over)reacting to the excesses of other performers of his time...
@zzzxtreme12 жыл бұрын
is there any video of marcel's performance?
@georgemurphy25795 жыл бұрын
There are several French TV broadcasts of Dupre available from the Association des Amis de l'Art de Marcel Dupre (AAAMD) in France. Difficult to obtain, but very instructive to watch.
@edwardhart54665 жыл бұрын
Wonderful interpretation
@hrgallie111 жыл бұрын
If he played it in New York then maybe he was in a hurry. This phrasing and confidence all suggest a very experienced player. The tempo is very clean. He may have slowed down for the American public (slight touch of Schmalz). Yes detached but definitely there...I still think that if you play this piece too fast you will lose things oh and including your fingers.
@philomela10011 жыл бұрын
Where was this recorded? Certainly not at St. Sulpice.
@rrkdudas68485 жыл бұрын
I think its in Boston
@georgemurphy25795 жыл бұрын
St. Thomas in NYC NOT that same instrument anymore...
@3NUNS15 жыл бұрын
You must be a true musician.
@fhill5612 жыл бұрын
Ooohh you mean THAT Marcel Dupre, I thought you meant THE Marcel Dupre...........
@3NUNS15 жыл бұрын
Whom ? Franck oder Dupre ?
@cp0bo5932 жыл бұрын
6:29
@MartinSmithMFM5 жыл бұрын
B MInor - come on!
@matthy315 жыл бұрын
Not really. h moll (minor) is common in central to east europe, even scandinavia. History is doing its thing here
@protrudingears211 жыл бұрын
7:55 - error!
@Blockedify13 жыл бұрын
G? J?? It's not worth worrying over. As the late Dr. Robert Baker, who I WAS NOT a great fan of, usta say, and he was RIGHT in this, "You're not Marcel Dupre and this is not St. Sulpice. You're NOT Cesar Franck and this is not St. Clothilde." Meaning that it is just way beyond pedantry to insist that an organist, indeed, AN ARTIST, must slavishly try to follow registration ideas set for a particular instrument, when just about every organ in the world is SO different from another.
@Tajoumaru14 жыл бұрын
Talk about a serious digital remastering...nary a hint of analog hiss.
@SuperRouzier11 жыл бұрын
j'ai confondu pièce et mar che...je préf ère la PIECE plus allante .rené
@vleermuisje213 жыл бұрын
Ik vraag me af of dit werkelijk Marcel Dupre is die hier speelt...... En het is zeker NIET het orgel van de St. Sulpice!
@russellheydon23418 жыл бұрын
just like all the rest perfect and lifeless ... oh did i say that surely not
@organbuilder2727 жыл бұрын
SO you are suggesting that Dupre's rendition is lifeless? Are you mad, man? A french composer playing his predecessor's work - Lifeless... Tune your eras, boy. He should know how to play it a lot better than you can.
@maxouf17 жыл бұрын
Dear Robert, the comment you make to Russel is not an argument "he plays better than you can". Criticising some Messi's or Senna's moves never obliged anyone to play football or drive better than them. Dupre's playing is very "even", like a robot. Look at his teaching method. Now hear about Franck, he was a piano player at first. Look at some notes he wrote by himself in his scores when preparing the creation at the organ of Le Trocadéro : "sans presser", etc, he had this "fougue" that must be felt in your interpretation of his works, all the more the Pièce Héroïque. This piece has a piano style(and a high orchestra style of course) which very begining is exactly a citation of some Chopin's work. These repeated chords must not be played even/equal. Also hear some Dupre's records of Bach works, totally even and perfectly legato... We nowadays much better know of to interprete baroque style than they did from early XIXth to mid XXth century.
@musichiere7014 жыл бұрын
I perfectly agree: Dupré was the best!
@camitful7 жыл бұрын
THE BEST Piece Heroique !
@pg35298 жыл бұрын
oups errors at the end :P
@Blockedify13 жыл бұрын
G? J?? It's not worth worrying over. As the late Dr. Robert Baker, who I WAS NOT a great fan of, usta say, and he was RIGHT in this, "You're not Marcel Dupre and this is not St. Sulpice. You're NOT Cesar Franck and this is not St. Clothilde. Meaning that it is just way beyond pedantry to insist that an organist, indeed, AN ARTIST, must slavishly try to follow registration ideas set for a particular instrument, when just about every organ in the world is SO different from another.
@MartinSmithMFM5 жыл бұрын
Errors almost imperceptible. But a tad too slow.
@guscox96513 жыл бұрын
Lol why
@MartinSmithMFM3 жыл бұрын
@@guscox9651 I guess because it has a natural speed which is 'heroic'. The triplet figures need to be easy, flowing, keep the iece moing forward. Of course acoustics can also influence tempo , as can the action of an organ. I won't listen to it again now, but I can imagine and hear the whole thing clearly. It is a strange work, I suppose a species of fantasia deep down.
@MrEbertScientist11 жыл бұрын
An interpretation which adheres to a strict rhythm is no less musically valid than one which makes gratuitous use of rubato.
@radoslavkhun2994 жыл бұрын
really? than why dont we use computers instead of the organists? In this case its not so terrible, Dupre plays it wery good, but there are some organist, who play really as machines...
@SirReginaldBlomfield12344 жыл бұрын
Pretty shit playing. He was already an old codger when he made these recordings and a very long way past his best which is obvious to those with ears to hear.