Cessna 170 vs Bearhawk Patrol Comparison

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[@kevchilton908]

A really interesting video you guys, thank you! Keep up the good work 👌👍

[@pappybo49]

Nice, fun video! I always enjoy your videos!

[@kylepace4832]

I like the 170!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

It's got a pretty tail!

[@sebastiansund2949]

beautiful flying

[@ak_5698]

Nice comparison. Thought that each has its own strengths and weaknesses. Thanks guys

[@songmaster9308]

Awesome video comparison!

[@k.c.8447]

Nicely done guys!!

[@friendme1032]

Thank you 💎🌻

[@scratchbuilder5952]

Great video... love the Bearhawks

[@gerhardcombrinck7026]

Great video!

[@donemory7459]

Thumbs-up Steph & Jon! Beautiful country! :-) Don/NE Ohio

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@tonystewart7287]

Neat comparison 😎👍

[@markdoan1472]

Your really hitting your stride on these aircraft comparisons ... since the vast majority of back country pilots are very much power / technical / equipment / performance geeks your feeding the lion here pretty dang well..

[@Nanuknikisuittuk]

Come for the planes, stay for the poms. Great video!

[@stephdachef]

Love it!

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Haha! They enjoyed the flight!

[@Nanuknikisuittuk]

They are perfect dogs for everything! We have a throwback pom.

[@willnelson5692]

My first thought on the glide test is the windmilling prop creates a similar drag force on both planes but the proportional effect for the higher mass 170 less.

[@smjamitchell]

Hi Steph / Jon, Another great video guys, thanks. How does the performance (and weight) of N2962D with all the mods (0-360, Horten kit, landing gear etc) compare to a stock 170B and a 180 ? Also, as someone else mentioned, would be good to do a similar comparison between the Bearhawk Patrol and a PA-18.

[@sledawgpilot]

Pull your prop control all the way out in the glide and feel the immediate difference

[@mattwoody1089]

Hi can you do a comparison to a murphy rebel and or a bushcaddy r80 ps this would be a comparison with nice modern designs

[@KevinRudisill]

When you are comparing them, do you give the 170 a few extra points for looks?? haha

[@sganzerlag]

Both are great back-country planes. For me though, I would go with the 170. I have a soft spot for both the 170 and the 140. Great choice of plane, Steph! Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Good choice!

[@renorailfanning5465]

I'm pleasantly surprised with the Bearhawks' performance. Granted, I never knew about that plane until a few weeks ago but I assumed it was just like a Super Cub by looking at it.

[@glock19gen3]

The New Bearhawk Companion looks killer! Wish there were more details about it

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Not sure they've had any customer finish a build yet...will be cool to see when it is done!

[@joshuanewnham3347]

Cool bro

[@rwlewko]

I'd be interested in a comparison between a 180hp Bearhawk 4place and this C170.

[@durwoodhibbard9312]

If you test again, after doing all test, need to swap pilots and redo the same test.. remove pilots as a variable. Enjoyed the video....Steph seems to be getting more comfortable in front of the camera.

[@donc9275]

December 8, 2020 there are two 170's for sale 1@ $49K and the other @ $50K

[@ryanedwards7741]

50 year gap and almost no difference when you weigh it all out. Great video thanks. Ill stick with the maule. I think the maule (with the exact same motor) would win in all categories, and certified.

[@5thGenNativeTexan]

Which STC engine conversion is this (on the 170)? Thanks!

[@RetiredPilot]

What engine do you have in the 170B

[@av8rk9]

I hope you can find a Super Cub against the Patrol to do the same comparison

[@yesode4201]

Bill Nelson Why when they cannot even do a similar comparison 300lbs is huge.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Coming soon!

[@FF280O]

I’m actually surprised at the small differences, with a triple blade prop on the 170, could pick that climb rate up a fair bit, landing distance will be improved with practice. The 170 has just jumped on my radar

[@escapetarkov3838]

Add a stol kit, upgrade the engine to a Injected Lycoming 360 and 100lbs of ballast in the baggage and she should be one heck of a bush plane.

[@danielblanchard5768]

love tue puppies

[@ludvikblondal9885]

Fuel flow..vs. useful load??

[@franck_mee]

Well, the 170 has another advantage: it's certified. Here in France, with a few exceptions, experimental-like aircraft are restricted from professional activites, discovery flights, instruction, etc. I guess it's different in the US, but here it means if you want to make a living (or just do a few jobs so you don't loose to much money) from flying, having a certified aircraft is mandatory.

[@watashiandroid8314]

It's the same in the US; experimental aircraft cannot be used for compensation or hire. You can get an exception from the FAA, but I have heard it is difficult.

[@franck_mee]

@@watashiandroid8314 Thanks for the information!

[@AgeCobra]

For me to carry 4 people with some luggage it would be the 170 and more comfortable on long flights.Don't forget the 170 is a 1956 air plane older than you two.It wasn't designed for bush flying cross country.

[@pappyscrappy6663]

Shouldn't you be comparing the 170 to the 4 place Bearhawk??

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Have one handy?

[@josesbox9555]

Be more like a Maule I would think.

[@wiliam7570]

My wife is always asking if I want to upgrade my Cessna 170B to a nicer airplane,, No,, I have the perfect airplane.

[@davidandrews1659]

Well done BUT! No comparison unless your same wt.!! So what you have done is compare performance with out consideration of wt. Do it again👀

[@beachside180]

Well they are not an early C180 which is the “perfect aeroplane” but they are both pretty damn good. 😏😏😏 .

[@4rebeln8]

I really like the Bearhawk, but do not have the time, tools, area, or expertise to build one. The 170, lots on-line for sale to buy and go flying.

[@z987k]

I bet you can't find a 170 that tricked out for sale. That's probably one of the best set up 170s in the world. The only thing 170 about it is the fuselage. 175 wings with extensions and leading edge cuff, 180 gear legs, 180hp o-360(stock is a 145hp o-300), constant speed carbon fiber prop(stock is a fixed pitch aluminum. 29in bushwheels. There's in excess of 100k worth of work done.

[@4rebeln8]

z987k I would just buy a normal 170. Couldn’t afford to do all that.

[@z987k]

@@4rebeln8 Well a normal 170 can't do half what this one can, it's more or less not even the same airplane. A stock 170 is a dog. Fully loaded you're talking 2000ft strips at low density altitude not 5-700.

[@JW-gb6hq]

@@z987kdepends on the prop and wing mods. Not at all true.

[@z987k]

@JW-gb6hq way to not read anything I wrote, agree with me and say not true.

[@New2Me170B]

Port Graham?

[@New2Me170B]

Jakolof. Right by Seldovia.

[@cr-us9ch]

Probably not apples to apples. Should have compared a 180 hp 4 place with the 180b

[@57eleven1]

I know Stephanie won’t be trading her 170 for a Bearhawk. Or, any other plane for that matter. I don’t blame her!

[@57eleven1]

I should’ve mentioned the Bearhawk seems like a great plane too, I know she loves her 170. Oops

[@guretsugu]

I feel like poor 62D was done dirty.

[@New2Me170B]

Now compare it to the 4 place bear hawk.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

We did....vid is on our channel

[@New2Me170B]

@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 how does the 170 compare to the four place bearhawk?

[@alschwartz8732]

30k difference, I'm thinking 170

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

Well one is about 63 years newer than the other and that has a bit of influence on the price...I'm sure the patrol would be a lot more affordable 60 years from now

[@yesode4201]

Next time could you please do a real comparison 300lbs is a big difference. Still a good video.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

It's a bit tricky to fit 300lbs more of stuff in the BH short of loading sand bags....these are typical loaded weights each flies at going out for a camping trip

[@mattivirta]

my option have who have lot cheapen buy used plane = cessna have.

[@dashriprock2916]

If there are mosquitoes I ain't camping.

[@fly8ma.comflighttraining199]

You're missing out! Bring some deet...

[@mattivirta]

you must be think how much bear and cessna invest money, bear build kit cost 72000 plus engine maybe about 100 000 all and lot hours build it, and old used cessna 30 000-40 000 and ready to fly. if want cheap only fly cessna have lot lot better, if want build and stay in garage longtime buy bearhavk. my option have cessna i like fly not stay garage build owerprice plane. important have cessna used but good condition ready to fly cost lot lot cheapen half cheapen than bear.

[@cluelessbeekeeping1322]

The ChickenHawk is way better.