Cessna 172 Crosswind Landing with 21 Knot Wind Gusts

[@Mikesorrento3344]

I just love how everyone is an expert. The pilot is critiquing himself and doing a fine job.

[@rayray8687]

Yeah, fine job. He takes off in a 16kt crosswind that increases to 20kt with an airplane rated for MAXIMUM 15kt and he admits he’s a rookie. Fine job. Darwin Award.

[@rayray8687]

John B: Everything I said (except the Darwin part) was sarcasm. What he did in my opinion was very foolish. He knew the airplane’s limitations (or should have), he knew the crosswind component exceeded those limitations (or should have) and he indicated he was not a very experienced pilot. So I repeat - Darwin Award. (But nice landing anyway).

[@rayray8687]

John B: Haha, well fortunately he was only nominated this time and didn’t win, so to speak!

[@muhammadsteinberg]

@@rayray8687 You've totally interpreted the POH WRONG!!!....The POH says 15kts DEMOSTRATED!!!...Cessna was very smart in not specifying a maximum and chosing their words carefully by saying demonstrated. I own a 172N and have done closed traffic patterns with 25kt gust. No flaps, 70kts, cross control enough to get upwind wheel down 1st, keep aligned until other touches and you're done. I've aborted many landings due to excessive winds. 15-25kts is a lil bit of work but not excessive imo....15-25kts is within the capability of the 172 easily.

[@rayray8687]

Muhammad Steinberg: It’s not so much I misinterpreted the POH as that I used the wrong terminology in my comment. I’ve discussed this same issue with other pilots on other forums and while most agree the C172 is not “limited” to 15 kts cross, its likely, in my opinion, that most low-time or beginning pilots (like me, and like the guy in this video) ARE limited to that component...or at least should limit themselves to it until they have more experience. That is what the airplane manufacturer is suggesting. Virtually all the pilots on that same forum, regardless of experience, also agreed that for sport flying you should never intentionally put yourself in a position outside of the demonstrated cross component on any airplane. One experienced pilot went so far as to say he did not consider his flying time as an “extreme sport”. A few described after-landing experiences of total spin arounds and even flip overs after turning off the runway in gusting conditions. Excess steady crosswinds are one thing but unpredictable gusts are quite another...and this guy, a beginner, knowingly flew into both. My opinion? Not smart.

[@jackmehoffer7819]

I’ve landed a Cessna 182 in 25kt cross wind, no problem, when I was done flying I hit pause and F11 and got a cup of coffee.

[@SpottinPlanesForLife]

😂

[@luzen4772]

😂😂

[@ThsGuyhazapenus]

LMMAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@alexanderveit7370]

😂

[@novicereloader]

As a hopeful future pilot that watches this kind of thing constantly, Thank You! The humility of pilots who are willing to break down their imperfections will likely keep me alive someday.

[@xX_Skraith_Xx]

Wow! I love this style of filming! It really captures where you are in the pattern in reference to the airport, threshold, etc. AND gives a sense of depth (which is very hard to accomplish on camera). And the inset control camera gives the viewer a sense of what the pilot is doing. I love it! I wish I saw it more in aviation videos!

[@JasonLundgrenn]

I like many others watching this, am a student pilot about to finish my flight training. Videos like this one are so, so, SO very helpful in helping us get over the fear of crosswind landings. Your husband seems like he was a great man. I feel fortunate to have watched his landings and absorb this into my own learning. He seems like was a great man and his kind nature and humility shine brightly through the microphone. Crosswind correction and other tips aside, this video combined with your words in the description have great impact (The the last section nearly made me cry at work.) Thank you for continuing to be your husbands voice in his little legacy of aviation. I'm sure he would have continued to make AMAZING content

[@programminglarge]

Justin, thank you for your kind words. Yes, your description and impression of him, based on this video, are accurate. He was very kind, friendly, trustworthy, humble, and talented. He was well loved by his students. He had a lot of interests and he was certainly very passionate about aviation within the last several years. How I wish he could share more videos here. Wish you great success in everything you do and good luck to your pilot certification!

[@gsp-greenstripepilot9508]

I just did my 3rd student solo and had 15kt with 20gusts. I wasn’t laughing like you, I was puckered up and holding my breath! 😂

[@programminglarge]

Totally understand

[@carlbowyer3757]

Thanks for sharing...I know the feeling! I'm a fellow student pilot and will never forget landing the Cessna 172 in a 12G21KTS crosswind (solo) for the first time. Your camera and video comments were very helpful, so please keep up the good work.

[@cq7415]

Nice video with the two camera angles. Your talking was helpful too. You did good. Thanks for sharing.

[@jasonvezina3762]

As a former CFI and current ATP, I think you should use more aileron in the wind on takeoff and landing. I would start takeoff with full airleron in the wind, yoke to the stoppers and as airspeed increase slowly gage the aileron input. The wing downwind should lift off first. Once airborne, take the crab angle that keeps you centered with center line and keep that heading so you climb in the runway center line. Same for landing, use your crab angle until flare. No need to do a slip on final. Throttle back on flare and decrab. with rudder, aileron in the wind. And once on the ground, aileron should be completely in the wind. That will help you to steer on the ground. Great video! Cheers

[@jefflloyd1388]

Dead right the fella in the film was crap and the runway was ten miles long and he needed all of it........... what about one wing down land on one wheel or kick of the drift and hold off the roll with aileron

[@outwiththem]

Yes you can do Slips on final. The 2 kinds of. the Forward Slip to lose more altitude and the Crosswind Slip to land on one tire first. And you should practice them often. You should touch down on The Crosswind Slip on most airplanes. But not on low engine jets like 737's and those To avoid engine strikes. but all others, yes. The If doing the Decrab On Flare maneuver instead of The Crosswind Slip, you have to be perfect to decrab or a sideways load on tires and landing gear happen$$$. 7k+ Bush PIlot CFI. 11 emergencies. no accidents. had land with 30 knot direct on C172's, cherokees and many others. no bs. Have videos on another channel landing with a 16 knot crosswind tailwind landings after 4 done Turnbacks on take of simulating 4 kinds of EFATO's. Used a Cherokee for that video. Did it over 20 years ago. I keep it private. No free teaching to rich guys.

[@anthonyalawy5515]

Jason Vezina I'm not a pilot and have no experience yet so this is simply a question to gauge my own understanding When he landed both times it looked like he added slip away from the wind angle after he pulled out of the crab. My question is, did he use the correct direction of slip after crab and if not, should he have added more slip to the right instead

[@AADFWspotters2]

Jason Vezina I

[@MJLeger-yj1ww]

Nice instruction, thanks!

[@davidgiles5030]

On my last check ride in a 172 it was 24 gusting to 32 , 90 degrees to the runway. I learned to fly at this airport ( Burlington Ont ), so the norm is crosswind landings and takeoffs. The instructor cancelled all her lessons for the afternoon within seconds of taking off. I did 6 touch and goes and one full stop. Nailed everyone. Yes I'm pretty damned pleased with myself.

[@ducttape82]

I also fly out of Burlington, Why didn’t you go for rwy 27 in those winds?

[@muhammadsteinberg]

​@ducttape82 It's a controlled tower. You don't get to pick your runway. The tower tells you which runway.

[@SidestickPilot]

I was gonna go out and fly in our little katana DA-20 I was at an uncontrolled airport and noticed our 15 knot flag was almost fully erect at a full cross wind so I was like okay perfect time to do some crosswind landings in a light aircraft! little did I know when I listened to the airport that was less then 5 miles away from me they were having crosswinds at 170 with 17 knot winds gusting to 20. As soon as i got on downwind I was really struggling keeping the plane at a decent distance from the airport so I decided to make it a full stop. Little did I know that it was gonna be the toughest landing in that little plane. I landed well and my instructor said it was picture perfect but the adrenaline it got going in me was crazy! Thanks for the video Eddie!

[@dryan8377]

Because of the 'lightness' of the DA20, my son is transitioning to the Cherokee next week to help him deal with these crazy winter winds at the airport. Don't know if this will help him, but a 1 hour session will see if the Piper is easier to learn to fly with these winds. (12 hrs F/T).

[@Jonnydeerhunter]

Didn't do too bad IMO. Thank you for sharing. One piece of advice I would give is to stay on the upwind side, with those kind of crosswinds I find if you start the flare with your right main on the centerline, you'll probably touchdown right on the centerline as your ailerons lose authority.

[@AlanTheBest97]

On a gusty crosswind I just think I made it back alive. 20kt gusts in a 172 is frankly above what I would consider acceptable to atempt the landing nowadays, only usefull for educational purpouses only really. You did very nice job honestly. Just one piece of advice dont go trying this all the time.

[@jonathanmoore9661]

I’m a student pilot about to go for my check ride. Great job critiquing yourself and getting on the ground safely. It’s all about safety in the end. Not even sure if I’m qualified to make a humble and helpful observation, but I noticed you may be gripping the yoke and fighting with the airplane. Only pointing this out because I try to make sure to not do the same thing! Thank you for posting!

[@2Brento]

You're doing a great job. Making those low passes is a great way to get a feel for what the wind is doing.

[@liliiavoevodina6245]

I had my jaw dropped when I seen this - it's EXACTLY what happened to me today! I am PPL under 100 hours and I love go flying as often as possible in the x-wind. I fly diesel PA-28. X-wind was about 15 knots gusting 18. So my first circuit was meh, I overshoot on base, on short final I felt I am too high and too fast, and by the numbers I went around crabbing on my upwind. Second approach was way better and I landed on a stall warning, but there was a feeling that I am going much faster. So I chickened out and made it a full stop :) We have a grass runway with no markings, I so wish I had camera to see how I was on final and if I touched down with a correct main first... Respect to you, great video - we must do this practicing as it's the only way to learn. I will definetely pick some very windy day and go doing ccts with the more experienced pilot in my right seat :)

[@terryofford4977]

Excellent use of Video whilst actually describing and executing T/O & Landings,good camera and exceptional sound too.Many thanks for a useful and even exciting T'O & Landing.

[@luisangelrodriguez1376]

I was trained to land on one wheel in a crosswind scenario. Being a brush pilot in Mexico, I had quite an experience with the westerly winds in the sierras. I flew a 210 Cessna retractable. I enjoyed your video.

[@hippiewithacowboyhat]

When i came back on my 2nd cross country, wimds were 20 gusting 27. Tower advised I divert to airport 20 miles away, but I didnt have fuel for it, so got cleared with caution. As I slipped down I noticed 40-50 people standing outside watching. Slipped to the numbers, kicked it straight and flared for a one wheel touchdown before settling , and taxied in to park. I found out once inside, the instructors called all their students outside to watch a crash... I was lucky. The gusts had the rudder maxed out and I dont think it would have been the same outcome if it was 2 mph higher gusts. Was very proud of myself, but credit luck as at least 50% of the happy ending.

[@donc9751]

That's a hairy landing! I'm glad you were able to disappoint so many viewers, and prove those instructors wrong!

[@twickersruss]

you were right , you should have made the first one a full stop. You handled it well and the camera shows it.

[@alasdairmurray2131]

If you didn't have fuel for a 20 mile divert you gone f****** up.

[@yvesbajulaz]

Hippie With A Cowboy Hat Did you crabbed to the number then kicked it straight to a side slip?

[@LeCamachoTRK]

lol you suffer from gust of 27 knots, here in my country the limit for student pilots is 35 knots of gust.. above that it’s on your own and guess what happen😂😂 everyone still flies with 36-38 knots of gusting winds.. the Cessna 172 becomes a food blender at those conditions 😂

[@chinster1611]

Naturally easy for all us sitting at home to critique. I think you did great, even if you had to touch and go 10 more times. This kind of experience will help you big time when your at the end of a longer flight and hit some heavy winds, we learn best by experience and sometimes even better from what we did wrong. Kudos

[@gazzpazzer]

Despite your admitted inexperience, this was an excellent video. Description and corrections were right on.

[@UrbanOdyssey]

I’m sorry to hear about Eddie.

[@programminglarge]

We just cannot maneuver our life path. From: Jing

[@whereverett1973]

Hmmmmm....... I've had the " Oh ! I got away with it ! " giggles before , too ! ( at the end on taxi ) ( in a 172 too ! ) Cool video and thanks for the memories. This IS how we learn, though.

[@Lauritzenm]

🙀 nice job!

[@ManNomad]

You are doing a great job. As you slow down you use more control input to the point of the stops while side slipping at which time if the aircraft continues to drift downwind you are exceeding the maximum crosswind component and a crab must be introduced(like you see airliners due to long low wings they can't slip due to runway impact potential). You are really proving this point as you do touch and go's. In landing you have the controls maxing out in flair, touchdown. and rollout so the transition is laterally resisted by progressively increasing weight on the tires and rudder directional with ailerons locked fully into the wind. Drifting on rollout is usually due to not fully locking the aileron into the wind or momentarily backing off during the transition of weight onto the tires and not staying on-top of the rudder to maintain center-line. Consider the rotation and approach speeds with increased by half of the gust as a rule of thumb. Easy to say but you are doing so many corrections at once all you can do is what you are doing and fly as many T and G's in different conditions as you can. Usually if there are several runways you can request a crosswind runway if the tower isn't too busy...instant crosswind. Pretty soon you won't want wind straight down the runway because it's boring.

[@programminglarge]

Thank you Fred!

[@bobboberson2024]

This is interesting stuff. I actually love that angle. And I appreciate your honesty. Learning is a process.

[@bambur1]

No way man. HELP. You take over...Someone better get up here and get me down !

[@Superrandomz768]

Very brave for going up again after the first touchdown. Thanks for sharing

[@GregHopp]

That first landing I was thinking "go around, please go around" and you did! Good on you. Seriously a Skyhawk will handle those winds no problem, but you gotta get out and do em. Note the A/C holding short & inbound. I bet on the ride home in your car, you were pretty stoked that you survived to fly another day. That's what it's all about: stretching your limits. An instructor once told me there are times on landing you try to grease it, and there are times you need to make the aircraft do what you want it to do, including planting it firmly on the runway. Gusty XWinds qualify for that treatment.

[@jerrywestfall4785]

I enjoyed the video of your X-wind experience. Have the two cameras was a great idea and a good way for you to critique your performance. I learned to fly in 1968 in a Piper Ti-pacer. The interesting thing with the Tri-pacer was it had self coordinated controls so that any aileron input also automatically applied the appropriate amount of rudder. To cross control the airplane for a x-wind landing you had to overcome the spring tension between the rudder and aileron. To teach me to deal with this, my instructor had me fly the length of the runway, about 25-feet off the ground and keep the airplane on the center line. After I became a CFII I did the same thing with my students. Also, you never quit flying the airplane until it is tied down. The position of the aileron and elevator position is set to compensate for the wind as you taxi.

[@nathanwildthorn6919]

That video sure brings back some "pucker factor" memories. Thank you for sharing this. :-)

[@glennwatson]

New viewer of this video. I'm sure he's doing perfect cross wind landings right now up there in the sky talking aviation with someone.

[@programminglarge]

Definitely! He must be doing aerobatic stunts there. He was able to do half circle prior to diagnose.

[@SoloRenegade]

Fly my Cessna 150 in 16kts gusting 22kt the other day, 50deg xwind. The 150 handled it rather well. But I love xwind landings and know my plane, and have flown multiple types of airplanes in xwinds up to 26kts, and so I know what I can handle and what my plane can handle. And if things got worse I had an intersecting runway I could have switched to.

[@UptheMountainVideo]

LOVE this video... Brings back a lot of memories. Fly the airplane. My instructor, who was an amazing pilot, would always dip the wing, as oppose to a severe crab. He would actually put one wheel down and then the other.. ENJOY the air.

[@ЮрийФильмов]

От винта! Желаю исправной стальной птицы, чистого неба впереди, высокого пилотажа в полётах и мягких посадок. Хорошее видео получилось.

[@leilapaulino8575]

Has the strongest crossing today I was doing laps around the pattern. May i say I feel like my calm winds will be perfect

[@jaronross9698]

Come to Kansas. This is a normal day of flying as a student pilot haha. But thank you man for the video! Seeing a private pilot make the same mistakes I make as a student pilot at 50 hours on to PPL makes me realize I don’t need to be so hard on myself. As long as you understand a mistake and correct for it, that’s what is important. Nice video man

[@omidn2876]

Good job pilot

[@dryan8377]

It takes gutz to post a video like this. My son is a student pilot, I'm just a flight sim wannabe. I think you did great... and it's good to show future pilots what they are up against! What a great learning video. There's a lot of great supportive comments here as well. This real world experience helps others to understand flight dynamics from the couch much easier. I might add that videos like this also provides for fantastic input in the comments section from more experienced pilots that others will learn from. Keep it up man! Love your vids!

[@rodcrawford841]

KOJC is where I did my primary training and experienced plenty of those X winds there. Good stuff. I enjoyed watching it.

[@programminglarge]

When was that?

[@DDubois91]

Thanks for the share, as a newly minted private pilot who flew in similar conditions, I could tell you put in some good work here!

[@tannerb55]

Great job!!!

[@mrpiperpiper]

Thanks Eddie! Very nice and helpful video. It´s always the pieces you pick up and learn from everybody. x-wind is always a "player" ;). Many happy landings!

[@maciejklasa6783]

Thank you for this video! I really like the two-camera view.

[@jamescarroll6954]

Nice job.

[@christoole1664]

Good judgement doing go around. I’ve flown in similar conditions and can identify with the “why didn’t I just full stop” comment. Keep up the good work and always err on the side of caution. Thanks for posting.

[@dmc6878]

Those were two good landings...well done. I didn't really get the hang of them until I was on DC-3s. I used your/my technique on a dirty night into Toronto in a B737. Success is satisfying.

[@MichaelM14]

Impressed. I dont know how many hours you have but it was not terrible... I had to teach myself kind of how you are in my super cub. Was scared to land in anything over 10 direct Xwind, one day i took off, on my way back it turned into 14G23. Planted it on the ground without a problem. X winds are the most fun thing I find when flying.

[@NettAirLa]

Great Video!, Thanks for sharing the video and your comments on the landing. I just completed my first solo and have been able to fly once more solo since then. I've been recording my flights too...and your correct, its a great tool for reviewing flights after.

[@programminglarge]

Invaluable for training. During training it's easy to become task-saturated and miss important points in flight. I always find things on the video I missed as it was unfolding in real time.

[@MJLeger-yj1ww]

I was born and bred on crosswinds at my airport so crabbing and side-slipping were common. Downwind was over mountains with up-drafts, turning base I left flat and went over ocean, stayed over ocean crabbing with wind off the ocean and on final, still over the ocean for a ways(adding flaps) until I was over land and then, just with my left wing down and using right rudder with a little more flaps and towards the last, where over the numbers the windsock was straight out, so you had to straighten her out, add a bit more flaps, but there was a big hill on my left and swirling winds put the windsock at 90 degrees a few more feet down the runway, so you had to crab again, constantly working the rudder and aileron and then you had to straighten her out again right away in just a few feet, then hold the left wing down and a hard right rudder almost to the flare, then hold that and then you straightened her out to complete landing! More than once turbulence had me bouncing and once over the ocean, on final, my head hit the top of the cockpit due to a sudden downdraft (THAT was scary, that ocean came up awful fast and I had to apply throttle and a bit more flaps)! Challenging, and I'd go out and practice those landings again and again, changing my technique, from crabbing to side-slipping, but I became pretty good at it, and it made other airports seem like a piece of cake! Some flyboy reading this will probably tear the technique apart but that's how we did it! Whatever works and gets you down safe, and I ALWAYS got down safe, and with practice, the anxiety subsided, although you always had to keep on your toes because things could change in a few seconds. Once early on in my learning, my FI would have me land on the taxi-way just so I had to concentrate harder on centering the aircraft on a narrow strip. Once in a while, we had a perfectly calm, clear day and I hardly knew how to fly it! It was fun. I usually skipped flying on Sat. and Sunday because so many "weekend pilots" would fly in there to practice crosswind landings and I saw a lot of bungled landings! Some would NOT use the pattern, but flew straight-ins so you had to watch downwind for them (not nice, but people did it). It's selfish to not fly the pattern! If they are concerned about fuel, maybe they have the wrong sport!

[@AssyrianKing4ever]

I got to practice cross wind landings today with 15kts gusting to 20kts in a C152. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed it. Happy flying!

[@JimWalsh-rl5dj]

Bloody well done old lad! Your landings were good with that xwind component. I have an ATPL, ATPL H and with gliding, some 165000 flying hours. You did well. Somee pilots wuld teach the wing down technique but the crab is definitely the best.

[@richard6361]

Hi from the UK. I'm a student just solo and found your video very interesting. The camera angles are great and your commentary is just right. I find many others a bit manic. If you have any more I'd love to see them. Thanks for taking the trouble to upload it. Richard

[@Grantly420]

the auto captions on this are gold

[@Food.Dog.Car.]

My last training flight was 18G29 VRB, and it was quite a time. We flew in a 30-degree crab to mainain course the entire flight. As you said, it was quite an interesting feeling. I had 6 landings, and it felt completely unnatural every time. I'm glad i got to experience it with my CFI before my solo(17 hours total)

[@andys8779]

Interesting to see how far you were pushed when lined up with Quivira. Thanks for posting this. Kinda cool to hear Johnny Rowlands in traffic too.

[@IslandSimPilot]

Hey Eddie, Thanks for sharing! My thoughts: - Great call on the go-around! My instructor says, always remember that a go-around is a POSITIVE maneuver. Don't feel bad about doing one, ever! - Remember "unable". If the controller gives you an instruction ("Make short approach") that you're uncomfortable with, say "unable" - (kind of a side note/trick): whenever I'm in the pattern and ATC calls out another aircraft, I tell them "no joy". They will then keep an eye on it for you. If you tell them you have the traffic, YOU are then responsible to maintain an eye on it. Just one more thing to do! - remember, it's always better to turn base-to-final too soon than too late. Nice job, though. You did well!

[@johns4476]

Main point on that last sentence... if you are blown off too far, don't think you have to recover that approach. Over-correcting a missed approach is one of the most dangerous stall risks. Just go around and turn final sooner or extend the downwind longer. Liked the vid and KOJC was my training airport. When using 18, I'd often extend to the oil tanks at 135th street, all depending on ATC instruction of course as I do remember them calling my base a few times.

[@buuuuck1]

Cool video! Great job landing with that crazy cross factor

[@rvdumdum]

this is great hats off to you.... if you fly in tropics this everyday news....wonderfull....young skywalker.......pilot that don'ts fly in wild weather needs too ......you never know what your goin get ....you sound like your still learning......we all are.....hats off to you young skywalker.....micheal

[@williamsalvaggio4621]

Great Job.... Learning is tough sometimes. Fly safe my friend. 👍👍✈️✈️✈️✈️

[@kimjongun6226]

Good job

[@exclusive605]

Hey man thx for the content learning on a 172 also but you've got bigger balls than I do since I would not go up so gusty.

[@megawave79]

just had something like this the other day as a relatively new student pilot. certainly was exciting, felt like a rollercoaster climbing and descending into the circuit. near direct crosswind of 15 gusting 22 knots. Super wild but somehow those two landings were some of my best ones, just left of centreline on my second landing. definitely an experience

[@Heisenberg-zy8xp]

i have zero flight hours just got into sims and hope to get my private pilots license in the future if i can afford it and i gotta say just watching stuff like this on youtube is very intimidating. Looks like it takes quite a bit of practice, godspeed.

[@frez777]

I give you a thumbs up on your landings!

[@raypaice4990]

Very good video and sharing experience. Liked when you mention why did I go around again.....think we have all been there.

[@lordsknight4516]

In my opinion I think you needed a little more left rudder. You were over compensating for the yaw at take off and the crosswind pushed you while you were adding right rudder for the correction. I'm no flight instructor but this has happened to me during windy days as well.

[@andymcvean9631]

useful vid, thanks for sharing

[@brenttaylordotus]

When I was a student I went up one day when winds were just on the verge of my personal limits. Didn't think much of it until the return trip, listened to AWOS and the winds had picked up a bit more. Crab angle was ridiculous, nearly sideways. Super ugly landing after going around once but I made it : D

[@stevemoore8450]

You were correct about rotation at a higher speed during high crosswinds. My hands sweated a lot watching this. Isn't the demonstrated max crosswind for takeoff and landing in a 172 about 15 knots? I had a similar experience into an uncontrolled field many years ago in Everglades City, Florida. Planned a touch and go there in a 172 with 3 friends onboard but aborted it when the prevailing stiff NE wind suddenly ceased on final as the airplane dropped below the high pines bordering the airport runway. We continued on to FMY , had lunch and finally returned home to Ft. Lauderdale!

[@rickkimball6125]

Great video and something I see you doing, that I was also prone to do....and that's overshoot the runway when you turn base/final on gusty days, particularly when the xwind is coming from the left in a left pattern. For me, I have some personal minimums in xwind landings and that's "on centerline, correct flaps setting, correct airspeed, correct crab angle at 500' AGL or I go around." If I don't have those, then I'm not on a stabile approach and it will take alot of skill/luck/effort to get on a stable approach at that point. That's in calm conditions...in high wind conditions it just complicates the mental processing required. It's not worth the risk and I'm not forcing a landing. On another note, I really appreciate your calm demeanor in the cockpit because that's also a huge part of managing situations like this. Well done.

[@redtailpilot]

As mentioned earlier, the tailwind on base is what you need to recognize and turn final a little earlier than normal. No need to widen your pattern/downwind. You did fine...Nice video!

[@leozeo1900]

At 6:20, Cessna 656SP, that's the plane i'm training in right now! Crazy how small this world can be.

[@user-ld6is4ni3d]

Holy moly

[@markl1733]

This was an interesting video which brought back some memories. Long ago I was a young student pilot practicing takeoffs and landings in a Cessna during crosswind conditions with my flight instructor. I believe the windspeed that day was probably 15 knots gusting to 20 because he said if it had been stronger, we wouldn't have flown. Well, it felt plenty strong to me. He had me turn the yoke all the way down into the wind during initial takeoff, and darn near all the way down while landing (or so it seemed). To my surprise, I got the hang of that process reasonably well without too much trouble. It was a lot like leaning into a stiff wind when you're walking. Also on landings, once I was over the runway, I learned to come down on the near wheel first and then set down on the far wheel afterward. It took some concentration, but I found I could do it fairly smoothly. For some reason, though, it was the constant crabbing and drifting while up in the air that always gave me the most trouble, always throwing me off when I was trying to focus on other things. It's kind of like trying to swim to shore while the ocean current keeps pulling you down the beach away from your hotel, and it got exhausting after a while. Being at the controls of an airplane at age 16 is exhilarating, but I tell you, it's no fun trying to land when the runway just doesn't want to line up straight.

[@programminglarge]

Thank you for sharing your experiences. That swimming thing is a good analogy.

[@tomjohnston4582]

this is mr. aviation 101 after smoking 1,000 packs of cigarettes

[@12220627]

Tommy Johnston slow and monotone. I think Mr avi101 tries to sound fruity in his videos. 👍🚬🚬🚬🚬

[@cardinalflyer152]

Omg I hope he sees this hahahaha

[@IainRosen]

hahaha yes you are so right

[@ANPennsylvania]

Keyboard, meet Coffee

[@drummerbarcellos]

hahahahahahah San Marcus San Marcus San Marcus

[@therealchayd]

Kudos for sharing your flight. I recall my first crosswind landing in a 3 axis microlight, I was swearing all the way down. Amusingly, the radio TX button had got stuck down, so everyone at the airfield heard me!

[@programminglarge]

Too funny. As I move up to heavier planes I'm starting to realize it takes a lot more skill to land a light plane in challenging winds than a heavy plane. You are certainly busier with your hands and feet.

[@wallabybob3020]

Nice job! There’s only one way to get the hang of crosswind landings and that’s to get out there and do it. That’s how good pilots become great pilots.

[@computer5272]

Where I live the towers usually give you wind with the clearance just as a courtesy. Even if it's relatively calm.

[@snipercam11]

Yeah my class D airport gives wind and altimeter setting for every new aircraft that enters the airspace

[@bcabmac]

This is a great actual real time video of common conditions all pilots encounter. And a first hand account of the pilots thinking process in dealing with it. I flew 152 Cessna s when I was 13 years old though no official log time. I started official lessons at 17 at another airport in a Cherokee 140 with an old ww2 combat pilot. First time up. Coming into land a storm had moved in with heavy gusts. I asked to land and if I had trouble do a go around to give control back to him. I was perfectly crab legged sideways on approach looking out passenger side window complete and perfectly sideways.. I got to the left of runway nose into the wind and kicked it around with rudder at last second all the way to the stop on ailerons. Used a lot of throttle control to fly it to the ground. I'm not going to say what the last minute crosswind was because you wouldn't believe me. When we taxied to a stop and tied down he told me Son I been flying a long time. Some people have to work for it. And some people are born with it. You were born with it. My head was 10 ft big. But I know reality punishes such things when it comes to flying. Life took me away from it and I never got to do what I really wanted. My hats off to you. Thanks for sharing video.

[@programminglarge]

That was rewarding and exhilarating to hear "You were born with it"! Wish you could get back to do what you are talented again!

[@CuriousSoulCanada]

I fly and land in a mountainous area near the ocean, crosswinds and rough landings are normal here. The pilots here do not over-analyze their landings, it is "I made is alive" or "I had to go around" on the strong days. Good to get the adrenaline rush when landing on a 2000ft runway banked by a forest, during a 15kts+ crosswind

[@heretohear8662]

Been there, done that! When you land in one piece, with no damage, it's the most rewarding feeling!

[@jwb2814]

Overshot again hehe Well at least you were consistent. Nice final landing. Hey you face that again it’ll be all good. 👍

[@HitsOutdoors]

AMAZING job..... Loved the video.

[@DownsouthMan]

Been there. It will make you wonder why you ever left the ground that day. Also makes you a better pilot and tightens the seat covers for a short while.

[@Doupirate]

I an a canadian flying instructor with 1 700 hres PIC. There are no limit to the amount of crosswind you can take. On take-of, you simply raise the wing opposite to the wind (under the wind), you continue on one wheel, and when the elevator feels firm, you aileron-up the wing into the wing. The wind will yaw the plane in the right direction, and you crab-out automatically on the runway axle. On the landing, you crab the airplane on final. Overshooting the final axle is of importance only to your ego. Once the crab on final is adjusted, you proceed to the landing with the crab. No flaps with a Cessna. Full flaps with a Cherokee. On the flare, you side-slip it in. Lots on ailerons into the wind, and rudder under the wind. Don't under-do it. Be assertive. Once you master this technnique, cross-winds do not matter for you anymore. Small town instructors, with single runways aerodromes are the best at it. Big city instructors chicken-out with a 30 knots, 45 degrees croswind!

[@dlpoen3719]

I learned to fly in a 172 way back when on the oregon coast and was windy most of the time execpt early mourning. after I soloed at 10 hours I injoyed the challenge of windy landings 10 t0 20 mph was just easy 20 t0 30 a little more exciting and challenging. I can remember so many days valley pilots would fly over from eugene with 200 0r 300 hours under their belts and try to land and give up after 2 or 3 attempts and go back to eugene. now florance airport is 3 times as wide with no potholes to dodge and longer and less intimidating but I miss the old days.

[@rogercamp2910]

On my pre GST flight at Weston in Ireland, i had the pleasure of landing a 150 in gusting 26 knots. The instructor was butt clenching and said afterwards he thought we were done for or would have to redirect to the nearby Military airfield. Not bad considering the 150 is only meant for 15 knots cross wind.

[@DustyCowdog]

Needed more cowbell. I'm a cowbell instructor for 23 years.

[@soultrain1973]

😂😂

[@crosswindcowboys2743]

lmao

[@Pilotsfp]

On strong x wind t/o, right landing gear lift up before the left one so you will instant crab after t/o, remain in centerline after take off is very important With more practice you can feel the plane weathervane right after landing gear lift up,

[@CesarpaulRivera]

When I did my solo, had no idea of the existence of cross winds And since I only flew four times with the instructor, and there's it was never discussed, but I surely found out about them when landing The plane had to be totally sideways to keep it on top of the runway and I was scared thinking it would roll when touching down, but since I had no choice, and landed, and saw that nothing happened, but that was after about an hour of going round and round Thank God. Now I do crop spraying, and you got to master touching down at the very beginning, since most times, I land on dirt roads, this is in Mexico, since I asked for permission, and sometimes it's pretty windy, and I got to land on the side of water canals, and sometimes it does get kind of tricky to stay on those pretty thin roads, about two and the half meters wide, with the water on one side and a drop and rocks and little bushes, and got to be on the lookout for cows, and all kinds of animals and birds, never had any accidents, yet, but one morning, there was this guy on a bicycle, and I had the sun in front, and I was on the ground already slowing down, when I see him about 40 feet away, I just put full flaps, and went to one side, barely missing some big rocks on the side, passed the guy, and barely made it back, almost went down on the side,on top of the bushes and all the other stuff.

[@davidaffinito5609]

As a CFI and general aviation pilot since 1970, I would say you did a nice job. More importantly, you knew what to expect and planned for it. Also, there is nothing lost and everything to gain when pilots go around. It's simply an exercise in good post-judgment. The only thing I teach differently to primary students is I don't do touch and goes. I used to but I found that most pilots learn more by coming to a full stop. They get the exercise of cleaning up the airplane after they turn off the runway. They get more time to think about what they have just done. I understand that at busy airports, this is not practical or economical. That's why it may be better to fly to an uncontrolled airport that's not too busy when practicing landings. JMHO.

[@Belfran]

Thank you! It helps with my training as well, 'been there, done that'! I agree on the overshooting and would be careful with the speed as those turns are quite low and slow. Keep the videos coming!

[@tectonicD]

Great video! My palms are sweating holding my iPad.

[@theav8rs45]

Well done! Good practice!

[@elementboy212]

Nice work man! It's flights like those that make you really learn how the aircraft handles, but like you said don't want to push it too hard to bend metal, just enough to keep ya learning. Not sure if it was answered in previous comments but here's my take on why you got blown to the right: you didn't keep your crosswind controls in the whole time. Not only can you see the yolk unloading a bit in the video but a bit of a thought exercise on fundamentals can help... As you're coming down on final you will only be able to stay on centerline 1 of 2 ways, by keeping in a crab or keeping a wing low and flying a bit uncoordinated with added power. Some planes you can land in a crab as the gear are built for the stresses of it (or even built to rotate to match the angle off from the runway like the B-52!) but for most the preferred method is the wing low approach. If we assume we're going to try to make the landing wing low, you'll always be touching down first with the upwind main gear first unless the winds are 100% down the pipe (and how often is nature/weather ever 100%?). So if you take this approach, you'll be using your ailerons to correct side-to-side movement and your rudder to correct where the nose is pointed. The last thing to point out is as you slow down your ailerons become less and less effective as they have less relative wind moving over them, therefore, you'll need to INCREASE the amount of yolk input. So in the video you would have almost needed full control input before you add power to start the takeoff roll again. Finally, just like how you landed with one gear touching down first, you'll also (almost imperceptibly) have to raise one gear up first on takeoff in order to keep that centerline track. Then when you've cleared the ground you can go into the crab to track centerline with no bank before you're ready to turn crosswind. Hopefully that made sense. Along with everything in flying, there's so much theory and physics behind why things are done. But at the end of the day after studying why things happen, you just have to get out there and do it. Good luck on the next crosswind day, you've got a good start for making them look easy in no time!

[@elementboy212]

Also check out the sine method of calculating crosswind component. It's a pretty easy way to get a very accurate figure and to make a decision on whether you're inside your max crosswind capability. I use it all the time for the Air Force jets I fly and it def helps having a solid answer on whether we should continue the approach instead of the TLAR method!

[@pabobfin]

It is fun and good practice to alternate crab and slip to keep on the runway heading. Good job.

[@FlyingJournalism]

I landed a 150 with 38 its crosswind.. biggest challenge wasnt the landing but the taxi-ing. Wind pushed the plane onto the grass..lol.

[@WildWestBudgie]

Good decision making on that go-around. Overshot runway and too steep approach angle sounds like a classic case of the setup for getting behind the power curve.

[@ratratrat59]

My home airport! Brings back lots of good memories. Also flew out of K34.

[@bookmoreweddings]

Great video. Great job!