Cessna 206H - Failed Start up Attempts

This 206 was left outside during a cold night (35F) and did not want to start!
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[@thomasreeves15]

When he left the fuel pump on it started, I love the sound of these cold engines starting up, or attempting to

[@uranch1968]

I have a 206H and it can be an absolute bitch to start when cold. The TIO-540 in the 206H has a reputation for being hard to start. I live on a ranch and keep my plane at my house and I have been practicing cold weather starts. I have found that if I prime as the book says then turn the fuel pump on when i start cranking it will usually start. I believe that is what the pilot did to finally start the plane in the video. Anyone who runs down or criticizes a pilot for not being able to star a 206H on a cold day is doing nothing but showing their ignorance. Much better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt!

[@nathanreid2974]

start the engine with fuel pump on then turn pump off after.

[@robertyork4008]

I own a 206H and they can be a pain in the ass to start!

[@ricardoescapades]

After 20+ years of piloting Skyhawks (and primarily vintage ones at that!), I’m convinced one of the trickiest parts of flying is getting their finicky engines to start 😂. Sometimes it seems like some form of witchcraft is needed to get them going!

[@Bergstaller01]

Imagine having to hand bomb a stubborn engine like that? Would take all day!

[@rdh72]

I would change out the engine and replace with a turboprop engine, particularly a Alison 250 engine.

[@F3R_Mauro]

Listen at 3:07, he says something like as soon as it cranks it goes to 12 volts. So I think there was some kind of electrical problem, some seconds after he says that the battery is at 23 volts, so I don't think the problem was a faulty battery :S

[@irgendwerausbayern1999]

I'm gonna give you a DAMN GOOD THRASHING!!! Just like John Cleese!

[@richardkallio3868]

Yeah, the VICIOUS BASTARD! 😂

[@bobl78]

maybe the oil is too thick, they use old fashioned lubrication technoloy from 1850

[@sts1243]

just never enough fuel from the word go in it

[@user-jh5fm7ci6o]

I would see If I could have the engine pre-heated. I would not like to start my aircraft at 35F. It may of been even colder at night. I would use some sort of Preheat heater or have per-arranged for it. Give it the best chance and reduce engine wear.

[@zmoonn]

Lol I always tended to be too short with primer pump when attempting a cold start and always afraid of embarrassing engine fire especially with other fellows around watching and teasing hahah good days!

[@gixxer1000rr]

zmoon n It’s easier to add another prime and try it again than it is to wish you didn’t prime so much. However I believe buddy here never give it enough fuel till the end to give it a fighting chance. Every time he ran the fuel pump and primed it a little it would give a pop right after. To me that would be a sign that you need more fuel and the next attempt would receive a larger prime. Ultimately it fired up when he cranked it with the fuel pump running and the mixture full rich. Which while contrary to checklist was the ticket to get enough fuel down the hatch.

[@dickjohnson4268]

Sooo let's seeeeee... what are the starter limits??? I watched an SR-22 driver crank on a flooded engine for over 8 minutes in KSTP. When it finally lit off with a bang, it bent one of the exhausts tubes up noticieably. Surprised he didn't deploy the CAPS.

[@LordSandwichII]

Spray some easystart into the carb! That'll get 'er going! XD

[@agcatdriver]

Lord Sandwich you NEVER do that to an aircraft engine.

[@LordSandwichII]

agcatdriver I was joking...

[@joespeed1952]

So I've heard that repeated crank/fail starts can damage the engine, this is a whole lot. If this engine keeps being treated the way it is, it will never make TBO. Just my 2 cents.

[@dickjohnson4268]

Yup. Too much fuel in the cylinders can and will wash oil off . Now you have more frictional drag on the reciprocating mass. That way the piston rings will 'self-machine' new cylinder surfaces. FBO shops will "love you long time."

[@thomasreeves15]

Carb heat?

[@CovertCulvert]

Oh yeah…I’d go flying in that thing…NFL!

[@user-vs9uf6cx1c]

a este motor le falta combustible ;al cessna 206 con lycoming si esta caliente el motor, por lo que se ve en este caso, hay que ahogarlos luego mezcla cortada y acelerador a fondo y maximo 3 intentos y esperar unos 45 mint para que se enfrie la marcha ,si no le das en la m... a la marcha se quema jeje. soy piloto de uno de este tipo.

[@kendallsflying]

Cold starts can be frustrating, I know how you feel!

[@casementsue]

Same

[@user-jh5fm7ci6o]

No fuel. Maybe have the fuel pump on when starting.

[@skyking6989]

Why does nobody ever plug these into a gpu. It's a guaranteed 28.5 volts. Doing this to an engine is destroying them. It beats the piss outta the cylinders

[@elliothenning8791]

I work on old diesels and carbureted engines all the time, sometimes you just gotta crank the fuck'n shit out of'em run down the battery or in some case batteries? big deal that's what jumper cables and battery chargers are for. Sooner or later it will eventually cheech and fire up

[@andrewjohnson2465]

Yeah! Talking to it helps 😒

[@tfarris7113]

Imagine how much better things would be if the FAA 'allowed' us to run dual electronic ignition instead of weak ass magneto ignition...

[@user-jh5fm7ci6o]

I think there are not some STPs for a single ignition and and mag. They have put it on C-172. Not sure if they have it for a 205 with this type of Engine?

[@STARTTHEMBOTH]

Poor starter. Flood engines much?

[@83turbino]

Questo fischia... ma che cazzo te fischi... nun te parte! Taa pii nderculo

[@sharedknowledge6640]

I wouldn’t fly this P.O.S. anywhere. My lawn mower starts easier after sitting 6 months. Why are these aircraft engines so crude and fussy especially given how little horsepower they make per liter of displacement compared to even an economy car?

[@tfarris7113]

Crude because of archaic regulation, fussy because they're crude. Magnetos make a spark about half as hot as the trigger on your scripto BBQ lighter. These engines cost north of $25K when a 300+HP crate engine is a tenth of the price. The "license" to work on them takes 2.5years of experience and can cost $20K or more.

[@captain348]

Hobby aircraft are under regulated and technologically ancient… megnetos my ass.. its like driving a 1950s car.. i wouldnt have a pos cessna if you paid me

[@misterlisterthesisterfiste4242]

omg you did too much fuel inside....

[@bobl78]

I would not fly with that shit that belongs to toy store