Cessna 210 - Cost to Own

[@notravstar]

The big cheese indeed. Nothing like a Swiss made 210, costs a lot of cheddar tho.

[@julianbrelsford]

😂😂😂 I guess the swiss asked for all that cheddar because they don't make it in Switzerland?

[@bruceabrahamsen221]

Have flown hundreds of hours in c210s. Great machine. Flown in hard ifr, cruised above18,000, landed on 2,000ft runways. Six people with no problem. Also flew the cover airplane in aopa magazine back in the 70s. N2110S. Full coupled ap and flight director. A real dream to fly.

[@georgew.9663]

Very glad you make these videos. I watched the C177 video the other day and I was so surprised how PRETTY that plane is. It never occurred to me that there would be high wing singles with retractable gear and they look SO DAMN GOOD, imo they look way better than low wing singles and twins and this one looks just as good, maybe even better than the C177. Thank you very much for helping me discover these things they have instantly became my favourite looking small civil aviation planes :)

[@zacharycollins4958]

I saw a 177 the other day, and couldn't help but agree with CW on how cool it looks compared to a 172.

[@daszieher]

The 177RG isn't called Baby Centurion for no reason. 😊

[@daszieher]

I fell in love with the 210 when I first pulled the yoke back for rotation (from the right seat). It felt as if it had been poured in concrete in comparison to anything I'd touched before. The thing flew like on rails. Never got to owning one, haven't generated the amount of cash to feed a travel-monster of that magnitude

[@ibgarrett]

I was in a partnership in a '76 T210 for a while. It was running us about $200/hr to fly. Parts are hard to come by and it was down a fair amount (wing spar inspection, new panel, etc. etc.). I finally got out of it and am building a plane that's pretty close to the same airspeed, but doesn't carry as much which is fine. In nearly 15 years of flying I've needed more than 4 seats (me and 3 others) less than 5 times, so the 210 was just more airplane than I really needed anyway.

[@daszieher]

So a 177RG would have been just right?

[@henrygambill8188]

the C210 is just magnificent.

[@superwinkta4682]

I always remember this as being Richard Collin's plane from Flying Magazine back in the '90s. He was the most technical, serious of the Flying Magazine writers and that plane really suited him.

[@johnnyappleseed6415]

I don't fly and may never... Your presentation of these planes and facts is mesmerizing. I see one of your videos, I click it...

[@bernardanderson3758]

The best one I’ve flown and the fastest model and year was the 1977 210 and IO-520 was a screamer especially in cooler temperature and the hours I’ve logged in Turbo and the P210 models when fuel prices were affordable to take long flights because of this flying isn’t cheap but it sure is fun during my lifetime of aviation to getting back into one again

[@chuckgibbons9731]

I flew 210’s turbo and normal for a couple thousand hours! Absolutely the best single engine aircraft out there! Never had a major maintenance problem in all that time. The non-turbo version had a Robertson stol package that really enhanced the all around performance!

[@saiajin82]

Thanks. I always leave with a grin after watching your vids even though I can't afford any of these airplanes. It's cool to drool, hehe.

[@Franklin-pc3xd]

1982 210N fully tricked out glass avionics refit, IFR, looks like an interior refresh, original fading paint but in decent shape, 967 HSMOH, 2960 TT. Wait for it.....$440 grand with a hundred bucks change back. There's a 1978 NM Turbo model I'd opt for though - despite higher TT hours (but only 220 HSMOH) - has very substantial avionics refit and a 2014 ext paint and interior refresh that all looks great - $325,000 - that sounds like a serious seller and a better value.

[@msteele3199]

Id love to see a cost comparison amongst competing models...

[@CompleteWalkaround]

I'm working on a new head to head series. I hope it's good

[@tinmisuun]

I love the 210. I flew on an L model. I like how the gear doors look.

[@MB-cv5pz]

2:20 "Which one of the kids to leave behind" Is that speaking from experience? XD

[@kittyhawk3831]

Great video as always. Ever considered doing a price to own on a Waco YMF-5? We got a lot of them where I'm from, and me and some pilot buddy's are considering becoming part owners on one. Cheers

[@davingilsdorf213]

Love the videos, keep up the great work!

[@gendaminoru3195]

210 wing is the same as a 177,... no strut, same spar issues. All should take terminating action on the AD.

[@LEMMYLEMON]

My favourite high wing aircraft! Yes

[@ImanMuhajirin-r4g]

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[@Allegan49010]

I have a lot of hours in C210 L & N models, great family plane and excellent IFR platform!

[@jonathonbuchholtz8516]

Do Beechcraft Musketeer. A wonderful underrated training airplane.

[@SL8408]

Your videos always make me smile :).. could you do one on the Twin Otter? Twotter with floats? Skis? etc :) TY

[@StinkPickle4000]

Please do NOT do a 206 on floats. Every time you do an airframe I think I might want to own you bring up excellent points as to why not.

[@CompleteWalkaround]

206 on floats is all positive and very affordable. Let er rip 😁

[@StinkPickle4000]

@@CompleteWalkaround Whew!

[@kentd4762]

Straight floats or amphib? I flew an amphib 206, and though versatile, useful load dropped quite a bit with the amphibs. But the 206 is such a workhorse, it didn't seem to mind all that undercarriage hanging underneath it. :-)

[@StinkPickle4000]

@@kentd4762 Too late I can't hear you LA LA LA🙉🙉🙉

[@jimydoolittle3129]

One of the best family aircraft out there 💪✈️ 210 forever

[@mrschellfisch]

„…which one of your kids to leave behind“ cracked me up 😂

[@reyesben]

Engine TBO. Good to be prepared financially, but with engine monitors, borescopes, cam guard, and good periodic maintenance TPO 5000 should be the goal of

[@suzukirider9030]

Yup. So I've read as well, that the manufacturers' TBOs are their way of kinda throwing their hands up in the air. In practice the engines can double it and be safer than those right out of an overhaul... The author of the book was flying a cessna twin with both engines nearing 4'000 at the time of writing, and claimed that he was as confident in them as he was when they had 1'000 hours. But then again, he chose to keep flying a twin (-:

[@ShadowFreedum]

LOVE THE VIDEOS 🎉❤

[@dantellewisham133]

Many hours flying charter in these girls... Solid. Powerful. Work horse!

[@warrenpeace768]

You need to do the Bearhawk 4 Place!! ❤❤

[@renardinosrenard9581]

Perfect as well. Thanks

[@chriscarlson5128]

If you can close the door you can fly, is the 210 W&B set up.

[@GeneHaas0]

Love your videos sir! What year was the first 210 you showed us? The green one with the struts.

[@CompleteWalkaround]

I think that ones an F

[@rrad3926]

Would love a 210 or 182RG

[@drakepomeroy2861]

Would you do a video on an Aircam? I would love to see that

[@HyperSpaceProphet]

TSIO-520, Factory reman, is closer to $75K than your quoted figure. A rebuild is 55-60K Lover your channel, but I am currently having 2 tsio 520's rebuilt so I do know the pricings.

[@CompleteWalkaround]

Hi, Thanks and thanks for sharing. The quotes I found were for IO-520-J and TSIO-520-H, what 210 had in the early 70s. I know the prices vary quite a bit by model and location. Cheers

[@mattf49006]

Better option is a 550 stc upgrade..I don't regret pulling the trigger on mine when it was time

[@StinkPickle4000]

Wow learned more about turbo drawbacks too...

[@karakurukedi]

Thank you buddy. 👍

[@ben3989]

Just how much more efficient is a retract strutless 210 relative to the closest model that doesn’t have these features?

[@CompleteWalkaround]

A Cessna 206 is a 210 with fixed gear and struts. I have a video on that

[@mattf49006]

The wings changed as well when they went cantilevered..flaps..ailerons and NACA airfoil

[@jd943bd]

Make a video on the sf260!

[@charlesvickery3910]

Cost to own Lx7-20??? Turboprop experimental or 350 hp piston.

[@WilliamWhitneyChristmasMD]

Piper Colt, please!

[@spurgear4]

I have a Vegabond. Us short wing people need more love

[@the23rdradiotower41]

Would you do a video on the SW-51?

[@SIRTEDD]

Why haven't you mentioned the silver eagle versions😊

[@chiefrainingstereotype.4184]

Boom. Love these things. The real deal

[@Kaipeternicolas]

...some have a TURBINE CONVERSION. Like the one I fly.

[@CompleteWalkaround]

You are fortunate indeed 👍

[@groggysword33]

Weird flex but… Nah, that’s just a straight win

[@Kaipeternicolas]

@@CompleteWalkaround preparation met opportunity. Thank you! I'm definitely lucky but I'd rather fly a Pc12 or new TBM 😂

[@mule5267]

The turbine conversion kills the looks though, makes the plane look like a banana. That doesn’t matter i guess when you are climbing at 4000 fpm

[@Kaipeternicolas]

@@mule5267 I respect your opinion but I love the way it looks with the long nose.

[@forrestallison1879]

Have you done the bonanza a35? That is a cool classic plane with a good price. Hey maybe that's what the channel should buy!

[@CompleteWalkaround]

I have a video on the 35 Bo. We could go that way

[@peterellison2220]

I followed a cessna 210 in to land yesterday and man does it stand out as a cessna on the ramp. One bulky bird

[@bernardanderson3758]

Let do a walk around on a Cessna 421

[@suzukirider9030]

Why was this flagship discontinued though? The 206 seems essentially the same but with fixed gear... still in production. Cessna never figured out how to make the retractable gear reliable and worthwhile on piston singles, or what?

[@CompleteWalkaround]

The 206 was cancelled at the same time. All Cessna piston singles were cancelled in 86. Some returned over the late 90s. 210 didn't return because of the complexity to bring it to modern standards. The 206 was brought back instead.

[@mattf49006]

The 206/210 commonality changed with the cantilever wing...ailerons..flaps..airfoil...gearpacks changed a few times as well...pick your price point..how much you can afford to spend on maintaining one and find the best one you can...any big singles going to cost you and remember to buy to match your mission...a 206 or a Piper six just might fit you

[@henrytischbein155]

What about the silver eagle 210

[@caseywade4108]

Finally, I've been waiting for this for so long. (I'm the guy that kept requesting it on the first couple of videos that you did)

[@CompleteWalkaround]

I hope you liked it

[@caseywade4108]

Sure! Help me decide to go see what boats are going for after seeing my fav plane would probably cost more than my house

[@TheChivasRegal]

Why did they stop producing the 210? It seems like a great aircraft. Will they re release it in the future?

[@CompleteWalkaround]

They stopped producing all pistons singles when the bottom fell out the market in the 80s. The brought back some in the late 90s but opted for the 206 instead of the 210. 210 was just to complex to bring into the 21st century. Would have cost too much.

[@calvinnickel9995]

Oh just to add about the 210. Would have been a perfect competitor for the Malibu (which was produced almost continuously during the time Cessna wasn't making piston aircraft) but the wing did not meet modern FAR requirements and for some reason they couldn't grandfather it. This is of course a good reason to avoid any non-strutted Cessna as they all have structural problems with their wings.

[@mattf49006]

@@calvinnickel9995 ..incorrect...spar corrosion is a factor in any aircraft..the chances of corrosion the cantilever cessnas vary in factors...climate..a/c equipped models..model year etc any hangered or dry climate 210s chances of failing a eddy current inspection are very very slim ...maintenance is key as is a good pre buy inspection the reason the 210 wasn't revived in 1996 was the cost of production vs return..as far as your claim (the wing not meeting a FAR?) i haven't a clue what that means or your source...after the Aussie 210 main spar accident Cessna fail safe tested one and it failed at 7.6 Gs...I can say with confidence my N model never came close to that and i'd fly it anywhere

[@kazansky22]

I wonder how much the operating cost difference is between this and the pressurized version

[@daszieher]

The P is considered a maintenance nightmare even by big fans, so I have gleaned from different reports. But that might just be me not getting things

[@calvinnickel9995]

Yes

[@petemoore4184]

1986 Cessna 210 for sale

[@bernicewahine9625]

Cost to own???

[@Datsunz-fr2nw]

I saw one of these crash in person. The dude forgot to put his landing gear down

[@ryanwoodliff1282]

That’s what happens when you stop following checklists. You get comfortable, and make mistakes. That being said, they do have landing gear issues in general, my uncle had to belly land his, as only the nose wheel came down. That saved the prop and the engine though!

[@Datsunz-fr2nw]

@@ryanwoodliff1282 it was out of pure negligence. The tower thought he was just doing a low pass considering his speed and of course the gear was up. Belly flopped into the runway and walked out like nothing happened. Apparently he had done something similar with a helicopter a month earlier.

[@ryanwoodliff1282]

@@Datsunz-fr2nw complacency kills. You think they would learn to use checklists🤦‍♂️ even the best pilots still use checklists, because the one time you don’t, you can overlook critical steps

[@braincraven]

By the numbers, for the numbers, just remember there is a wide range of unaffordable numbers. 🤣

[@queeny5613]

Wooo

[@RR-zq3mk]

Dc-3 next…

[@Jeff-m5x3j]

Early models cost more to maintain as do the later models. 😂

[@StinkPickle4000]

Oh, uncle Ben!

[@Repinnc]

Nail on the head

[@taktuscat4250]

More like with great performance comes with great fuel consumption 🤣

[@ruskiwaffle1991]

seeing a cessna with retractable gear is cursed

[@calvinnickel9995]

Ah yes. Cessna 210 is the top dog. To those who don't know... it's just like every unremarkable single engine Cessna out there. Those who do know... don't care unless they are flying it. And that's why 210 owners seem to have this massive inferiority complex. Defining 'don't you know who I am' while Bonanza and Cirrus owners know that you know who they are right before they spiral into the ground or pull the parachute.

[@ChesterBarkley-y6d]

Tara Dam

[@sammalone6714]

Which kid to leave behind? The one with the worst grades.

[@michaelfisher2574]

Try 22 gal hour

[@megabot7739]

Haha, maybe at takeoff. Try the red knob once in a while.

[@schroyerta]

Love your videos but I had to hit the thumbs down for using meters instead of yards.

[@CompleteWalkaround]

Welcome to Earth

[@kennyg1358]

Oh brother

[@schroyerta]

@@CompleteWalkaround After seeing what it’s turning into I’m considering Elon’s offer to Mars. The only problem is some people use real measurements there and others use that dastardly metric stuff. Its usually not a problem until they crash a multi million dollar spacecraft, RIP Mars Orbiter. No worries though that was only government money 😞.

[@CompleteWalkaround]

@schroyerta Ah, no need to worry. All scientists, including American scientists, exclusively use the metric system. Have a fun on Mars!