Netherlands 2-0 England (1993) WCQ

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cestrian81

cestrian81

10 жыл бұрын

England's World Cup qualification hopes are dealt a shattering blow as they lose 2-0 away to Holland in October 1993. In what is effectively a winner takes all clash, Graham Taylor is left furious with the referee over his failure to send off Ronald Koeman for hauling down a goalbound David Platt - Koeman going on to put the Dutch ahead before Dennis Bergkamp settles it. Earlier Holland's Frank Rijkaard had controversially had a goal ruled out for offside. England's only hope of qualifying would now be if the Dutch lost away to Poland and they thrashed San Marino in the final game.
(Properly watching this match for the first time in over 20 years, I'd forgotten just how open this game actually was given so much was at stake. England carved out several decent opportunities and the Dutch, with flying wingers Overmars and Roy, always looked dangerous going forward - that save in the second half by David Seaman to deny Rijkaard from point blank range was tremendous but ultimately long since forgotten due to the result).

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@Paul_Lucas
@Paul_Lucas 2 жыл бұрын
Rijkaard literally three yards onside and being played on by no less than three players 😂
@tonygunk8261
@tonygunk8261 2 жыл бұрын
"He's gonna flick one now." The late great brian moore had been watching the dutch in training the day before and saw koeman practising freekicks. He knew from the run up what he was going to do.
@watcher8055
@watcher8055 2 жыл бұрын
I’m from Liverpool, England. This was the first match I ever watched in full. I was 9 years old, nearly 10. Nobody else I knew was into football, so I had to do it all myself. What a match to start on eh? 28 years ago…. Crazy.
@shaniosdorp
@shaniosdorp 5 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Those were the days when legends like Bergkamp,Overmars, Rijkaard and Koeman were the pride of Dutch football!!
@Dante-vf4sd
@Dante-vf4sd 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and not as good as they could with Van Bastien and Gullit not playing
@jonblazeinc
@jonblazeinc Жыл бұрын
@@Dante-vf4sd crazy if Gullet never fell out with management he would have still been playing for Orangé into the WC 1994
@robertcottam8824
@robertcottam8824 10 ай бұрын
That England side was dreadful wasn't it? Dorigo and Palmer.....😩
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 7 жыл бұрын
RIP Graham Taylor...
@raymondmcmenemy303
@raymondmcmenemy303 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. He was an excellent manager and a hell of a nice guy.
@JoeWizzard
@JoeWizzard 10 жыл бұрын
I watched this as an 11 year old with my Dad. When I asked him 'Dad, is football always like this?' He simply replied 'Basically, yes'.
@saadkhatib3456
@saadkhatib3456 6 жыл бұрын
JoeWizzard if your an England fan then the answer is always 'YES!'
@alphabarre9096
@alphabarre9096 5 жыл бұрын
Carlos Vazquez freak lol 😂😁😂
@Richthelionheart64
@Richthelionheart64 5 жыл бұрын
Can vouch for that as a Newcastle United fan....
@gerardritzer
@gerardritzer 5 жыл бұрын
from the moment the dutch reinvented the game
@rensbenders1537
@rensbenders1537 5 жыл бұрын
I was watching this game as a 13 year old boy with my father. I remembered this game as England being the better team.
@del7538
@del7538 6 жыл бұрын
You see the best and the worst of Seaman in this match. His reflex saves from Bergkamp and then immediately from Rijkaard were world class. But his positional sense was ALWAYS suspect! Anything over his head and he was instantly beaten.
@partyentertains4092
@partyentertains4092 5 жыл бұрын
Just like WC 2002 against Brazil lol.
@Adrianheneghan
@Adrianheneghan 5 жыл бұрын
Nayim
@alwilfrid
@alwilfrid 2 жыл бұрын
Gazza 1991, but I think Seaman would get caught out because of something happening he didn't expect.
@13muller9
@13muller9 2 жыл бұрын
@@alwilfrid If I am not mistaken in a game against a Spanish club, a player volleyed the ball almost from half the field, and as you said Seaman not expecting it, was beaten!
@rosemaryfarell5264
@rosemaryfarell5264 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. He constantly got done onn free kicks and long range shots. All the evidence is there in years worth of footage. Great shot stopper but vastly overrated. Nigel Martyn from 97-02 was much better yet was ALWAYS second fiddle.
@peloquin1979
@peloquin1979 5 жыл бұрын
Just imagine if VAR was in place then. Rijkaard's goal would have stood and Koeman would've been sent off. On a sidenote : Brian Moore, one of the best commentators we've ever had in English broadcasting.
@wiseonwords
@wiseonwords 4 жыл бұрын
@Hannibal Barca - As long as we're speculating, Bergkamp would probably have gone crazy and scored a hat trick, and England would have gone out that way!
@TheNewPatsyBailey
@TheNewPatsyBailey 4 жыл бұрын
@@wiseonwords Yes, pretty useless to speculate. So let me join you guys :) If VAR was in place back then I'm pretty sure a player like Koeman would've been able to adapt & make different choices altogether. Different times, for sure. That's all there is to it, imo. Let's all end in agreement that Brian Moore was a brilliant commentator at least.
@robvoncken2565
@robvoncken2565 4 жыл бұрын
true entirely differnt match the referee and linesmen were crap by any standards
@alticooalberto3532
@alticooalberto3532 4 жыл бұрын
Var is shit
@seanwickham7225
@seanwickham7225 3 жыл бұрын
How was England's free kick not retaken and Koeman's was (with a yellow card for encroachment)?
@GodOfVictory501
@GodOfVictory501 5 жыл бұрын
I never get tired of watching this game, lol
@marvinbrando722
@marvinbrando722 2 жыл бұрын
In those years, to quantify to the WC, was so tough
@GreaterEthio
@GreaterEthio 5 жыл бұрын
I was 9 watching this game at my grandparents, gutted we lost, first real footballing disappointment knowing we weren't going to the world cup.
@billkent6037
@billkent6037 4 жыл бұрын
England played really well that night.. and as for the ref he never refereed another international
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 3 жыл бұрын
Good.
@billkent6037
@billkent6037 2 жыл бұрын
@@r4h4al Yeah, his performance was atrocious... 28 years later and watching this now and it’s still just as bad. I like the way for the England free kick the Dutch player blocking is nothing like 10 yards, he gives nothing and then 2 minutes later he gives Ince a yellow card and a retake for the same thing at the other end... What a joke!
@europainvicta3907
@europainvicta3907 2 жыл бұрын
Ingurland did play well - like they did against Croatia, Italy, Iceland, Belgium B Team . . . . . . . 😂 😂
@jchaaaaapz
@jchaaaaapz 5 жыл бұрын
Koeman not getting sent off and it not being a penalty is the most bent thing I have ever seen in Football.
@MrCrazyrob666
@MrCrazyrob666 3 жыл бұрын
More bent than Henry's hand balls against Ireland in 2009?
@ryanwebb5082
@ryanwebb5082 2 жыл бұрын
And the other Koeman should've been sent off for the king fu kick on Parker
@simon0044
@simon0044 2 жыл бұрын
Frank was 2 metres onside when he scored
@johnruby147
@johnruby147 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrCrazyrob666 Did you know that the Irish FA put in complaint about the Handball , But IFA offerd the Irish 3 Million quid not to , because as Blatter said France would be a bigger name in the finals than Ireland
@jonblazeinc
@jonblazeinc 2 жыл бұрын
It was never a penalty foul started outside the box....but yes koeman should have seen red all day
@ronhoek69
@ronhoek69 9 жыл бұрын
Everybody seems to forget the 100% goal of Rijkaard. 05:33.
@That_Random_Bloke
@That_Random_Bloke 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah to be fair Holland were a much, much better team than us at this time
@bucwhovian8305
@bucwhovian8305 7 жыл бұрын
That is the worst decision by a linesman I've ever seen, not only is he about 3 yards onside, there are three defenders playing him on!
@BobCassidy
@BobCassidy 6 жыл бұрын
Oooh, my goodness!
@zisssssou
@zisssssou 5 жыл бұрын
Sélective memory isn't it?
@RuudJH
@RuudJH 5 жыл бұрын
it was mentioned when Koeman should have gotten a red card. All in all, it was a great match. England was very close to several goals. This game was won by the stars that Netherlands had in those days. Koeman, Rijkaard, Bergkamp.
@manuelgutierrezriffo3163
@manuelgutierrezriffo3163 4 жыл бұрын
🇨🇱🇳🇱 Gigantes del fútbol mundial. Merecen ser Campeones del mundo por todos sus logros. Tengan fé hermanos Holandeses que un día serán los Campeones de mundo. Viva Holanda y Viva Chile !!!! 🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
@markcusack6335
@markcusack6335 Жыл бұрын
It may be too late, football, sadly, has regressed, effort and hard work having overtaken skill and intelligence. The “pressing” tactics so prevalent in modern football are suffocating the game. The denial of time and space, allied to increased fitness levels, mean the best players being either discouraged or constantly thwarted in attempts to display their skills. The great international teams of the last fifty years - West Germany (1972), Netherlands (1974), Yugoslavia (1976), both Brazil and France (1982), Russia (1986), and Spain (2010), are but endearing, albeit distant, memories.
@horusheresy6949
@horusheresy6949 5 жыл бұрын
Can't remember much about this game but watching it again brings back a lot of memories of these days. The greatest stadium in the Netherlands 'De Kuip' in Rotterdam, still not renovated. De Goey at goal, even John de Wolf in orange. Pretty amazing.
@wernervon5508
@wernervon5508 2 жыл бұрын
Feyenoord!
@raphaelnik
@raphaelnik 10 ай бұрын
Player for player the Netherlands were better than us. Some of our players should never have been close to an England shirt. Sinton, Palmer are the two obvious ones. Seaman at fault for the second goal. Those shots must be saved at international level. A dark period for Englif football
@junglejamesie
@junglejamesie 8 жыл бұрын
Seamans positioning at Koemans free kick is ridiculous.
@gantzdevries5321
@gantzdevries5321 8 жыл бұрын
Spot on, seaman left acres of room for Keoman...chronic positioning
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 7 жыл бұрын
It's awful, he was never attacked for it either..
@MrMutluSunay
@MrMutluSunay Жыл бұрын
How this dutch team with such a legendary players couldn’t win any throphy...
@henkneleastwood6245
@henkneleastwood6245 4 жыл бұрын
what a great player Bergkamp was!!!
@jibberism9910
@jibberism9910 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, his technical ability holds up to this day. Class of his own.
@henryhawran9953
@henryhawran9953 4 жыл бұрын
Even after these years, I have zero respect for Koemam. Assenmacher had the worst referee performance in the history of the game. Was banned by fifa from ever refereeing again. Fifa owes England a public apology for this debacle.
@jaceks6338
@jaceks6338 2 жыл бұрын
Limey cunts being sore losers as always.
@tomekkarlinski2210
@tomekkarlinski2210 2 жыл бұрын
Chyba żarty sobie robisz Anglia z taką gra nic by nie wygrała na mundialu
@That_Random_Bloke
@That_Random_Bloke Жыл бұрын
We should thank the ref for getting rid of Taylor. Heaven forbid we still had him at Euro 96
@conorsmith8551
@conorsmith8551 Жыл бұрын
“Refs just got me the sack . Thank you ever so much “
@MrEnlil777
@MrEnlil777 Жыл бұрын
You must be joking hahaha, and what about Rijkaard's goal, which was canceled due to offside, and a penalty kick for the Netherlands, similar to that demanded by the English... The referees were not at a good level, but do not say that the English were wronged. 😏
@SuperBillKent
@SuperBillKent 9 жыл бұрын
Out of all of the shambolic performances under Graham Taylor England actually played pretty well this night but the damage was done with atrocious performances earlier in the qualifying campaign. The ref was just hopeless but when you fail to beat Norway home and away and you're stuck in a winner takes all game like this anything can happen
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The same scenario happened under Steve McLaren failure to beat Macedonia at home and Israel away which left a winner takes all game against Croatia!
@seduxtive776
@seduxtive776 4 жыл бұрын
SuperBillKill .SuperBillKill even though the guy didn’t get the respect he deserved . He was a hopeless manager . The English always crying about the supposed penalty , yet they got extremely lucky with that cheap penalty in Italia 90 with Belgium .
@andrewjoyce9038
@andrewjoyce9038 Жыл бұрын
​@@seduxtive776 it wasn't a penalty
@nicklaytonUK
@nicklaytonUK 2 жыл бұрын
'He's going to flick one now'. Brian Moore, amazing commentator
@masmas6463
@masmas6463 Жыл бұрын
great comment because I thought the same - but he said or predicted that flick seconds before Koeman did.....barry davies and brian moore the best.
@amandacerasale4679
@amandacerasale4679 10 ай бұрын
I can remember watching the game with my late parents RIP and I was feeling very sick so you can imagine a sick bucket for me and two caring parents all watching the football at the same time.
@OgaSammy
@OgaSammy 3 жыл бұрын
Great commentator. He understood the game
@blondstallion
@blondstallion 5 жыл бұрын
Rijkaard is an amazing guy, not a word though he surely knew he wasn't offside. Ik had the pleasure playing with him in Abcoude veteran team in Amsterdam the year before he signed as Barcelona coach. Fantastic man on and off the pitch.
@blondstallion
@blondstallion 5 жыл бұрын
Not back then, but later after Rudi and Frank were in a Dutch butter commercial on Dutch tv they became great friends.
@MrStefcallan
@MrStefcallan 4 жыл бұрын
Koeman should have been sent off. The freekick, a Dutch guy encroached - the guy was 4 metres away when it hit him! Koeman retaken freekick... after Ince encroachment... England hit woodwork twice You know it's really not your day
@tomekkarlinski2210
@tomekkarlinski2210 2 жыл бұрын
Nie zapominaj o prawidłowym golu Rijkarda
@BazGrout
@BazGrout 2 жыл бұрын
This represented the lowest time for me family my mother was diagnosed with cancer my dad was made redundant from his bank then England lost and did not go to the world cup from 1993 the only way was up for me and life is now so much greater the 1990s were a disaster for alot of people 😊
@francomark
@francomark 4 жыл бұрын
Had totally forgotten about Bergkamp's goal. Glorious stuff
@sx4222
@sx4222 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, 90‘s Bergkamp was just too good , alomost every old matches I review now via internet he scored balls and had several threanteining chances.
@jandeboer426
@jandeboer426 5 жыл бұрын
Funny that the England coach doesn't talk about the referee mistake knowing that it was a fair goal by Rijkaard. Bergkamp was better then a lot of Dutch people think.
@wiseonwords
@wiseonwords 4 жыл бұрын
"Bergkamp was better than a lot of Dutch people [thought]," as Arsenal discovered to their eternal gratitude the following season!
@MrMowky
@MrMowky 4 жыл бұрын
It's one thing to get the split second offside decision wrong. It's entirely another to miss a red card sending off. That's not a split second decision but a deliberation that was cowardly because he just didn't want to make a big call. Instead he didn't give a penalty and he didn't give the deserved and obvious red.
@chrisearl4440
@chrisearl4440 4 жыл бұрын
After Cruyff, the next best three Dutch players of all time are Bergkamp, van Basten and Rensenbrink
@martydav9475
@martydav9475 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisearl4440 I would have it van Basten, Berkamp and Rensenbrink, but all three were brilliant.
@chrisearl4440
@chrisearl4440 4 жыл бұрын
marty dav and I would put Ruud Krol in at number 5. Another brilliant player!
@johnruby147
@johnruby147 5 жыл бұрын
When you look at this match in hindsight you wonder how these Referees make the decisions that they do . Rykards goal should have stood . Koeman should have been sent off as should the Dutch number 5 for that tackle on Parker , but what annoys me most is , after Koeman pulls Platt down , from the resulting Free Kick , before the ball is even kicked there's a Dutch defender about 4 yards from the ball , it hits him and Holland go on the attack and the Ref does nothing about it . Yet when Holland get a Free Kick , as Koeman kicks the ball Ince does exactley the same thing moves before the ball is kicked , gets booked and the kick is retaken from which Koeman scores . Inconsistancy
@johanrijhkelaar3627
@johanrijhkelaar3627 2 жыл бұрын
Not an England fan by any means but how did Koeman stayed in the game after that is beyond unthinkable, red card all day
@hermankranendonk
@hermankranendonk Жыл бұрын
How was that clear goal from rijkaard disallowed?
@roberthermans6357
@roberthermans6357 3 жыл бұрын
So many great players on both sides and lots of drama in this game! Can imagine England expected one or two red cards for NL, then they've hit the post twice. Then, NL having denied a beautiful goal from Rijkaard. In the end, for England, with strikers as Overmars, Roy, Bergkamp and Rijkaard coming from midfield, it was just a little bit too much top-quality to hold off and it made the difference in this game, I think.
@YeOldeFootballChannel
@YeOldeFootballChannel 10 жыл бұрын
I still remember when Graham Taylor reacted to that Ronald Koeman's tackle to David Platt: "REFEREEEEEEEEEEEE! REFEREEEEEEEEEEEE!" (As seen on Do I Not Like That)
@MartinT82
@MartinT82 10 жыл бұрын
I was 11 too in '93 watching it on TV with my dad! Looking back now, I don't think I've ever witnessed a game since with so much controversy and drama... so many incidents: Rijkaard's 'goal' should have stood in the first half; Ronald Koeman should have clealy been sent off though it's debatable whether his foul was inside the area; the free kick should also have been retaken as Wouters was about 2 yards away when Dorigo hit it; his brother should have seen red for his foul (almost like Nigel De Jong on Xavi Alonso!) on Parker; and Pallister's foul looked inside the box too!! If any game summed up England in my lifetime, this is it. Thanks for the upload dude.
@Resenbrink
@Resenbrink 9 жыл бұрын
It's not debatable whether his foul was inside the area - it's either in or it's out and it's clearly fucking out. Still love watching this game and hearing the English piss and moan.
@eddielasowsky7777
@eddielasowsky7777 9 жыл бұрын
robby rensenbrink For a country thats had so many talented players youve won surprisingly little.
@Resenbrink
@Resenbrink 9 жыл бұрын
eddie lasowsky I couldn't agree more.
@eddielasowsky7777
@eddielasowsky7777 9 жыл бұрын
***** Call it unlucky if ya like. Personally speaking i think the Dutch team shits itself in finals and pussies out ;)
@eddielasowsky7777
@eddielasowsky7777 9 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah we invented the game, but that doesnt make us a great footballing nation. When it comes to winning we are almost embarrased. What has happened is that the liberal elite has made Englishness synonymous with racism, subjugation, empire. Look at the independence debate in Scotland, all the time England is being blamed for Scotlands lack of prosperity. In this climate our footballers who put the shirt on don't care because theyve been told not to care by outside elements. You might think i'm over dramatising, but as an international team we are finished.
@Jacknicknila
@Jacknicknila Жыл бұрын
Would love to watch this match in its entirety with the wonderful ITV commentary
@robinxwalterspoker
@robinxwalterspoker 5 жыл бұрын
what a game ,miss it dont no where I was that time,thanks anaway,s
@Garrett1974
@Garrett1974 3 жыл бұрын
As a Dutch guy I admit Ronald Koeman should have been sent off, but this just goes to show that some referees don't know what they're doing or how to "implement" the rules... Definitely a red card.
@kingkane1051
@kingkane1051 Жыл бұрын
PARTITA RUBATA IN TOTO! BASTARDI! ARBITRO ROTTO IN KULO
@lodersracing
@lodersracing 4 жыл бұрын
6:26 Penalty and sending off offence and 7:55 sending off offence
@billkent6037
@billkent6037 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a red card 7:55... Disgraceful refereeing!
@samuelbellingham7180
@samuelbellingham7180 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought there was something weird about Koemans free kick goal, its not like any other free kick Ive seen...then I looked at Seamans positioning...wtf!
@sarasonsalas3472
@sarasonsalas3472 2 жыл бұрын
Another game without Matt Le Tessier 😔
@sookmajoaby
@sookmajoaby 5 жыл бұрын
Brian Moore knew exactly what Koeman was going to do with that free kick o.O and what the fuck was Seaman's positioning at that free kick all about??
@keithbyrne5478
@keithbyrne5478 4 жыл бұрын
Marco van Basten 🇱🇺 What a player he was 1st Class 💯👏💯
@ronniep9272
@ronniep9272 2 жыл бұрын
He wasn't even playing.
@realmrpoopybutthole7587
@realmrpoopybutthole7587 Жыл бұрын
That's the Luxembourg flag
@jeannotschumacher1024
@jeannotschumacher1024 Ай бұрын
Exactly​@@realmrpoopybutthole7587
@jibberism9910
@jibberism9910 2 күн бұрын
Just watched the earlier game in England, the 2-2. Very vivid recollection of that game, especially V Vossen's penalty - more so than Bergkamp's technically perfect goal. This one I remember too, but not as good. I do remember figuring we (NL) would be winning this at home. Awesome memories of better times anyway... Awesome England squad back then too, full of legends in their own right.
@Griselabb
@Griselabb 9 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely unbelievable that a player of Bergkamp's quality didn't prove successful in Inter Milan. In the role he played in this game, he was unstoppable. England was lucky that he was more wasteful than normal. The pass for Rijkaard was sublime.
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't understand that either. He could have had a hatrick in this game with a bit more shooting accuracy. Fantastic player.
@nathanrobinson1099
@nathanrobinson1099 5 жыл бұрын
They played defensively, that would stymie Bergkamps skills, isolate him and reduce passing options. That's how it didn't work out
@edmondsimon9220
@edmondsimon9220 4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanrobinson1099 yes same against Brasil Bergkamp has been isolated in 98
@waso778
@waso778 Жыл бұрын
He felt not good in Italy. Then can't perform.
@superlucas010578
@superlucas010578 5 жыл бұрын
Worst referee EVER !!!! 1- Frank Rijkaard's goal should have been given. He was 5 meters behind the line when the pass was made. 2- Ronald Koeman's foul was out of the penalty area, yet he rules it in. The linesman had to tell him otherwise. 3- Ronald Koeman had to be dismissed (red card) since he was the last man and Platt was facing the goalkeeper to score. 4- Edwin Koeman should have given a red card and a some jail time for that flying kick, yet he only receives a warning. 5- Wouters blocked Dorigo's free kick by putting himself 3 meters from the ball and the referee didn't sanction him, yet he does it when Ince blocks Koeman's free kick.
@dracso6058
@dracso6058 5 жыл бұрын
maybe your right, but it doesnt matter, the dutch would have won anyway.
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 5 жыл бұрын
Bergkamps goal should've been disallowed also for a hand ball.
@italianplastic23
@italianplastic23 6 жыл бұрын
Hes gonna flick one now ....he's gonna flick one , HES GONNA FLICK ONE ..AND ITS IN !!! - Classic stuff from Brian Moore
@waynemarshall8836
@waynemarshall8836 3 жыл бұрын
What was Seaman doing....
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 3 жыл бұрын
@@waynemarshall8836 In fairness to Seaman it should never have been a free kick; no foul.
@Scallion_D
@Scallion_D 3 жыл бұрын
Top notch commentary from the greatest of them all.
@jonblazeinc
@jonblazeinc 2 жыл бұрын
@@r4h4al yes it was a foul, and probably should have been a penalty instead
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonblazeinc Even though he won the ball.
@alanrv9399
@alanrv9399 4 жыл бұрын
Que grandes partidos por aquellas épocas.
@charliechaz1982
@charliechaz1982 7 жыл бұрын
Brian Moore ❤ Such a brilliant commentator
@bully3628
@bully3628 8 жыл бұрын
I could listen to Brian Moore read the phone book for hours.
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 7 жыл бұрын
his commentary was awesome on the Koeman free kick, 'again its Ronald koeman, again the problem is there, his going to flick one, his going to flick one', just superb, his capturing the drama and reading the action so well and not allowing his patriotism to get the best of him...
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 7 жыл бұрын
OK, he made a mistake but on the whole he was a legend behind the mic...and very fair as well to the dutch and the English...where did England go wrong in the early 1990's from the semi run of 1990?
@Activsoul
@Activsoul 7 жыл бұрын
Euro 1996 was a great tournament that England should have won, so I'd say they bounced back.
@thechannelivesetupbecausey3585
@thechannelivesetupbecausey3585 7 жыл бұрын
+Kailash Patel Graham Taylot
@kisbie
@kisbie 7 жыл бұрын
I agree. He got a bad press in the fanzines at the time, but he was pretty engaging really. Hamburg are still looking for those 1980 European Cup winners medals he promised them though. ;)
@81chipper89
@81chipper89 2 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe how poor the positioning is of Seaman for that free kick!! Ludicrous.
@jonblazeinc
@jonblazeinc 2 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe seaman didn't clock Koeman was gonna loop it over the wall, commentator kept saying it it was obvious
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 Жыл бұрын
His stance was all wrong..Shilton would never under the decline set in would never have been done like that..
@chrisfallon9678
@chrisfallon9678 2 жыл бұрын
I love it ..you'll never walk alone being played 👌👌👌
@JamesWho1
@JamesWho1 10 жыл бұрын
he's gonna flick one remember brian moore saying that about 10 times
@kisbie
@kisbie 7 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if Brian Moore believes that if he says it enough times, God will allow David Seaman to hear it.
@jonblazeinc
@jonblazeinc 2 жыл бұрын
@@kisbie hear it ? Seaman should have seen it himself from 25 yards... myself aged 15 back then , Brian Moore and probably Stevie wonder saw Koeman was gonna flick it ...the only imbecile who didn't realize was David Seaman
@Zamppa86
@Zamppa86 4 жыл бұрын
The 1994 World Cup was the first one I saw. I remember asking my dad "Dad, where's England?" when we were watching the games together. He answered "My boy, England is the most overhyped and the most overrated nation in football". I learned one of the biggest truths of football that summer.
@robparkinson9850
@robparkinson9850 4 жыл бұрын
norway winning the group was what screwed it for england, meant only one or holland and england was going to qualify
@tecumsehtoccoa553
@tecumsehtoccoa553 4 жыл бұрын
I remember this game, the time period and in hindsight that was not a bad English team and Graeme Taylor deserved more out this. They could have easily scored 4 goals against the Dutch. I think the bridge has been crossed and England is right up there today.
@soldierofchrist4447
@soldierofchrist4447 4 жыл бұрын
@HKKL Seedorf would be the best midfielder today
@tyqwdybijo
@tyqwdybijo 4 жыл бұрын
england was cheated to deny them a place at the world cup
@alfredotacus8233
@alfredotacus8233 4 жыл бұрын
@HKKL Look at the career of Clarence Seedorf...
@mezianeremila454
@mezianeremila454 5 жыл бұрын
Bergkamp has stunning fancy touch... so underrated...
@ihateyoumother-fucker3204
@ihateyoumother-fucker3204 5 жыл бұрын
Remila Meziane I'm not being argumentative, but how is or was D.Berkamp "so underrated" as a footballer? His goal against Argentina during France 98 was officially voted the best goals scored during that World Cup finals due to sublime ball control. Take a look: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqS9nHZ8pNaGeNU I remember him scoring two stunning goals against Leicester City @ the old Filbert Street, again stunning ball control, both contenders for goal of the season. D.Bergkamp was not underrated.
@everttimmer3771
@everttimmer3771 5 жыл бұрын
Given his nick, i guess he is dutch an misinterpreted your comment, thinking underrated means the negative of it.
@mezianeremila454
@mezianeremila454 5 жыл бұрын
@@everttimmer3771 thanks for the explaination .
@richardhaynes3925
@richardhaynes3925 Ай бұрын
Let's just give a shout out to the outstanding commentary from Moore and Atkinson
@janfranszuidema8512
@janfranszuidema8512 5 жыл бұрын
It was a fun controversial game in a tough qualifying group.
@billkent6037
@billkent6037 2 жыл бұрын
There hasn’t really been a big game between England and Holland for many years but during the 90’s it was a big rivalry! We loved it when we won 4-1 in euro96 but that was the last big game really because I don’t count the nations league. In England we were very angry about these two games in 93 and we wanted revenge and we got it in 96
@misterhamstring1782
@misterhamstring1782 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this match being in the military. A full mess cheering and going crazy after the Koeman goal. What a night that was. 🥳
@pflynn581
@pflynn581 5 жыл бұрын
This was probably our best performance under Graham Taylor.
@stephenfarrell77
@stephenfarrell77 2 жыл бұрын
Better than the 1-1 v Brazil in Washington?
@pflynn581
@pflynn581 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenfarrell77 I'd say so.Not result wise but really unlucky,especially considering Koeman shouldn't have been on the pitch when he scored after denying us a golden opportunity.
@piccupaul
@piccupaul Жыл бұрын
The England bench was right - the refereeing in this game was disgraceful. Aside from Koeman's foul (that should have resulted in a red card and possibly a penalty), the ref allowed the Dutch to charge Dorigo's free-kick, but booked Ince when he did exactly the same thing at the other end a few minutes later. The Dutch were obviously the better team but it shouldn't cloud the fact England got well and truly reffed off the park.
@sx4222
@sx4222 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, 90‘s Bergkamp was just too good , alomost every old matches I review now via internet he scored balls and had several threanteining chances.
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf the 2nd goal was absolute class even if there was a cheeky handball in it.
@MarkLyell
@MarkLyell 5 жыл бұрын
David Seaman was a brilliant keeper but my god did he have a long list of howlers in his career. Both Dutch goals entirely his fault in this game.
@ReanimatorsMutilations
@ReanimatorsMutilations 4 жыл бұрын
East to remember the howlers and forget all his great saves
@Anonymous-Joker74
@Anonymous-Joker74 4 жыл бұрын
Reanimated_Dead_Flesh FA CUP @39 year old save V Sheff Utd 👀 He could have retired on that mate ⭐️👌🏼 2002 WC,Down to brilliance and quickness of thought 💥 Nayim,Man 😢 that hurt,Playing for country is a big deal.but,Seaman,is The Gunners best goalie ever 👌🏼⭐️
@Anonymous-Joker74
@Anonymous-Joker74 4 жыл бұрын
MarkLyell kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIWlnIqIqJylY8U
@ReanimatorsMutilations
@ReanimatorsMutilations 4 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-Joker74 I remember watching arsenals UEFA cup campaign that year and wanting them to win it
@Anonymous-Joker74
@Anonymous-Joker74 4 жыл бұрын
Reanimated_Dead_Flesh Same Amigo 😂
@neilwalker9737
@neilwalker9737 9 жыл бұрын
leaves you with mixed feelings this (England supporters anyway!). You do wonder how Koeman (no to mention his brother if that was him going in studs up...) didn't take a walk for that foul. On the other hand, Dutch had a perfectly legit goal disallowed in 1st half. And if England had got better results elsewhere (surrendering 2-0 lead to Dutch at Wembley + losing to Norway if I remember right), they wouldn't have been in this predicament.
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 6 жыл бұрын
Furthermore Koeman should have already been booked for the foul earlier in the video.
4 жыл бұрын
And if they hadn't appointed Gram Taylor as manager ...
@onlyweatherlol93
@onlyweatherlol93 10 ай бұрын
What a double save from Seaman!
@marky26marky
@marky26marky 7 жыл бұрын
How come football back then seemed more important and serious than nowadays?
@SB-xo2bx
@SB-xo2bx 7 жыл бұрын
marky26marky less money involved of course, less ego but the atmosphere at the games was much less sanitised amongst many other things.
@wilmaroelofs7718
@wilmaroelofs7718 6 жыл бұрын
internetzz
@twirajuda
@twirajuda 6 жыл бұрын
Because back then players and ownership alike were as dedicated to their national team as their clubs. This is the era before Beckham’s superstardom, WAGs (as led by his wife Victoria), or Russian oligarchs and Mideast Sheik Yerboutis bought up clubs. In doing so, they debased the Three Lions and English football in general with money and materialism
@mairapasok5258
@mairapasok5258 6 жыл бұрын
Hello marky26marky! This is how 90s playing soccer.
@ricd2821
@ricd2821 6 жыл бұрын
Because you were a young boy and it meant everything to you. Now your priorities are different and it doesn't matter as much.. everyone's golden period is when they grew up mine is 96-02
@davidbutterworth7093
@davidbutterworth7093 5 жыл бұрын
Haha 8.48 and that fella standing next to him, the dutch always fascinated me because of this kind of weirdness.
@JoshuaMSP1995
@JoshuaMSP1995 7 жыл бұрын
A travesty of a refereeing performance. 1) Dutch goal disallowed even though three players are playing the scorer onside. 2) Koeman not sent off. 3) England's FK charged down by a player much closer than the maximum allowed ten yards. 4) The Dutch should have been given a penalty (though seeing as Koeman scored the resulting FK, justice perhaps).
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 5 жыл бұрын
4) Still a wrong decision - wasn't a foul, Pallister made a perfectly good tackle.
@mrjefferies90
@mrjefferies90 5 жыл бұрын
@@r4h4al they don't care. An English player commited it lol
@sx4222
@sx4222 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, u are brillant. England lost for sure~
@MiddlesbroughFCVideoVault
@MiddlesbroughFCVideoVault 6 жыл бұрын
Brian Moores career pinnacle this one - the finest moment of his long and distinguished stint with ITV : "He's gonna flip one..." 9:26
@Scallion_D
@Scallion_D 4 жыл бұрын
@andrewjoyce9038
@andrewjoyce9038 Жыл бұрын
Flick not flip
@jamesmason8436
@jamesmason8436 5 жыл бұрын
Seamen had a shocker there.
@JamesRichardTaylor
@JamesRichardTaylor 7 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to believe that the officiating against Holland for both ties was this selectively incompetent to this degree out of coincidence.
@billkent6037
@billkent6037 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the elbow on Gazza in the first game! OMG and the ref was looking straight at it!
@hermanhelmich
@hermanhelmich 5 жыл бұрын
Die kick van Erwin Koeman Wat een heftig moment zeg Zelfs geen geel
@prinzdesuniversums6830
@prinzdesuniversums6830 4 жыл бұрын
Ja, macht er megagut. Er lässt den Ball schweben.
@goonern4644
@goonern4644 4 жыл бұрын
Ian Wright not starting for England in 1993 with his Arsenal form was criminal.
@vhayes2257
@vhayes2257 3 жыл бұрын
Goooner N4: he was injured for this game. He would have started otherwise.
@lexingtonlad5745
@lexingtonlad5745 4 жыл бұрын
Seaman is at fault for free kick, look were hes standing. Do I not like that.
@jandekker6055
@jandekker6055 7 жыл бұрын
Is it coincidence that this has popped up in my feed on the day of Graham Taylor's death? (Also, Rijkaard was onside. Didn't realise that at the time.)
4 жыл бұрын
Every day is the day of Graham Taylor's death.
@dmlewey
@dmlewey 6 жыл бұрын
Only 3 England players between Ryjkard and the goal. LOL.
@markcusack6335
@markcusack6335 Жыл бұрын
Never a proponent of Graham Taylor’s management style or brand of peculiar football, he was, nevertheless, absolutely correct in his criticism of the referee and the disgraceful decision to not send off Ronald Koeman.
@diptastik5651
@diptastik5651 8 жыл бұрын
The referee was fucking terrible ! I never liked Taylor as England manager but i have to admit the luck was never with him . After all these years i do feel sorry for him .
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah a very similar situation to what happened to Steve McLaren who didn't get much luck in the qualifiers. Really you have to feel sorry for all the England Managers because they all get the same shit treatment.
@TheCloneX2
@TheCloneX2 3 жыл бұрын
Graham Taylor was a good coach, let down by a poor crop of England players that were only average league players at best. Merson, Sharpe, Palmer, Webb etc. RIP Graham.
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 2 жыл бұрын
Paul Parker made the point that the England squad of 1990 was such a class outfit (Rocastle could not not get in and he was playing awesome)..yet come the 1992 Euros the squad lacked class and were playing in this stage men like Palmer, Deane, Dennis Wise, WTF)..
@Gg-zd8xz
@Gg-zd8xz 2 жыл бұрын
Although Taylor didn’t have the best squad, he made horrendously poor choices too. Stints like dropping Beardsley, Waddle and le Tissier were devastating for England, and entirely Taylor’s own doing. Similarly, that bizarre pulling Gary lineker off for Alan smith at euro 92 when England desperately needed a goal. Taylor was a decent man and a reasonable club manager, but crap at international level in terms of the things he *could* control like squad selection and subs
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gg-zd8xz bringing on Smith made sense only to hold the ball up..England needed a goal..
@jeannotschumacher1024
@jeannotschumacher1024 Ай бұрын
Should have picked the whole arsenal back four as a block. Always
@siobhanheale91
@siobhanheale91 2 жыл бұрын
I was in the stadium with a Dutch friend and sitting amongst the Dutch supporters. The referee has got to be the worst I've ever seen a disallowed Dutch goal and two red cards what a disgrace 😤 The irony of koeman not being sent off and then 5 minutes later scoring still makes me feel sick 😢
@didadida5504
@didadida5504 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the English crybabys 28 years on. :D
@kebabtank
@kebabtank 2 жыл бұрын
Both Koemans should have seen red. I have to say that I had forgotten about Erwin Koemans 'challenge' but he was lucky the referee had such a bad night.
@mcharrisment4765
@mcharrisment4765 Жыл бұрын
@@kebabtank bang on you are. The second one by his shittier brother is worth two red cards. I remember watching it live as a fifteen year old and thinking that I am gutted but 'Taylor' was unlucky
@europa1387
@europa1387 2 жыл бұрын
First England game I remember watching as a kid was gutted. Koeman should have been sent off crazy that he wasn't.
@nose123456ful
@nose123456ful 3 жыл бұрын
Actually England played very well in this game , unfortunately one of these two had to go .
@TheMrBennito
@TheMrBennito 5 жыл бұрын
brilliant free kick by Ronald. No dynamite. Velvet touch.
@rafapaz9158
@rafapaz9158 7 жыл бұрын
Both nations were declining in 92-94 post Lineker/Van Basten era though the Netherlands did pretty well in the USA
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 5 жыл бұрын
I'd still say two good teams. Basiaclly two semi final looking teams regressing to two QF esque teams. So still top top teams.
@mrjefferies90
@mrjefferies90 5 жыл бұрын
This Netherlands were not in decline lol what are you smoking?
@wiseonwords
@wiseonwords 4 жыл бұрын
You forget that the Dutch also did quite well in France in 1998. There goes your declining theory!
@andrikristianto2577
@andrikristianto2577 Жыл бұрын
As a Holland die hard fan I could imagine as a 17th years teenager I would be histerical when Koeman and Bergkamp scored…too bad I missed this game when no live broadcast easily accessed anywhere online or on tv as it is now… I really miss watching Dutch team in this high quality with full of world class players….
@Nightopian1982
@Nightopian1982 7 ай бұрын
Despite the fact that Koeman should never have been on the pitch at that stage...
@marceloneis
@marceloneis 9 ай бұрын
Seaman was out of his mind during that free kick. That was bizarre.
@dcvbhtrdf
@dcvbhtrdf 8 жыл бұрын
This was just before I got into football, I never knew about that professional foul from R.Koeman.....and at 0-0 when England only needed a draw AND he then scored AND from a re-taken free-kick when England weren't allowed a clear penalty let alone allowed to re-take the free-kick when the Netherlands did the same thing with the wall.....and also that red card offence from E.Koeman on P.Parker etc....would've thought people would've brought all this to my intention before I unintentionally found it on KZbin like the Maradona hand goal 1986 was brought to my attention a long time ago etc... I know the Netherlands had a valid goal given as offside but it's fair to say if all decisions were given correctly It would've favoured England much more than the Netherlands.
@nighttrain1236
@nighttrain1236 7 жыл бұрын
Koeman was the ultimate villain that night.
@herbertvonzinderneuf8547
@herbertvonzinderneuf8547 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta disagree - the ref was.
@mrmister769
@mrmister769 4 жыл бұрын
Ref was utter shite
@douweodh4146
@douweodh4146 2 жыл бұрын
12:30 Bergkamp gets the ball - English commentators: Oh this is trouble! - Bergkamp scores.
@sx4222
@sx4222 2 жыл бұрын
HAHA, no wonder European Footballer of the Year no2 and no3 World Player of the Year in 1993....
@MrMartinmozz
@MrMartinmozz 5 жыл бұрын
What a heart breaking game this was...but exciting, bit of a classic! "How will Dorigo hold Overmars...He's gone past Dorigo!" Foreshadowing lol
@Beathoven007
@Beathoven007 4 жыл бұрын
Overmars was more into overdrive those days. Blazing fast winger. Ronald Koeman had the best shot and Bergkamp made trillions lot of lob kick goals back at Ajax. Then there was De Wolf with his corner like throw ins. A team full with players with signature moves. If only Van der Sar could have replaced De Goey earlier on, everything would be almost perfect
@vhayes2257
@vhayes2257 4 жыл бұрын
14:33 the famous FIFA official, target of Taylor's anger on the sidelines in the second half, sheepishly and rather nervously walks past! To be fair to the poor guy, none of it was his fault.
@Jayfive276
@Jayfive276 8 жыл бұрын
In this day and age Koeman would have been sent off, then brought back on so the ref could send him off a second time, so blatant was that foul. That said we had no right to be in that world cup considering how bad we were.
@danyoutube7491
@danyoutube7491 5 жыл бұрын
Even in that day and age Koeman could have been sent off as well. Watch virtually any game in which he played; if there are more highlights than just the goals, you will probably see a dangerous challenge by Koeman. He committed some outrageous, blatant fouls and always got off lightly, I cannot understand why. Check out this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpLblpWGlsZ2ebs and watch his assault on Baggio at 6:17 and laughably he goes unpunished, while a teammate who fouls and lashes out at Schillaci seconds later is sent off- this shortly after Baggio scored from a free kick, which Koeman had conceded. Looking back at all the blatant, cynical and often vicious fouls he committed, it is impossible to understand how he got away with it.
@austinmerrigan3404
@austinmerrigan3404 2 жыл бұрын
What a game of football had everything bergkamp a genius
@Mad_Intalect
@Mad_Intalect 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't s penalty, foul happens at 6:50 exactly(pause the replay), clearly outside the box, it was red card though. But Rijkaard's goal wasn't offside, don't see English fans mentioning that.
@r4h4al
@r4h4al 2 жыл бұрын
The foul carried on into the box though so clearly should have been a pen.
@Activsoul
@Activsoul 7 жыл бұрын
Tough group!
@darrenbrackley2301
@darrenbrackley2301 5 жыл бұрын
Look at Seaman's positioning at the free kick. He is still organising the wall, is too far over, and has got no chance if Koeman puts it where he did. He's slow to get down for the 2nd one too.
@vhayes2257
@vhayes2257 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Watch it in slow motion if you have to, folks. His positioning is horrendous. Childlike. Inexcusable.
@nickycotton6137
@nickycotton6137 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Roy! haha! Forgot about that GEM of a player as the Dutch have had/got so many of them.. (Koeman @7:55 though on one of the best Right Back's ever born was bang out of order!)
@neiltaylor4382
@neiltaylor4382 2 жыл бұрын
Seaman badly out of position for the free kick - no way he could get across to a very gentle chip.
@olivertruswell
@olivertruswell 7 жыл бұрын
So glad to see this 'charging down' a free kick nonsense is now gone! Can't believe it was ever accepted in the first place. It always pissed me off.
@EKcyclist
@EKcyclist 3 жыл бұрын
I’m Scottish, but not here to wind anyone up. It’s when I see footage like this that I realise just how unlucky England have been over the years. Unreal!
@MrDemetri78
@MrDemetri78 3 жыл бұрын
And Euro ‘96 all the way up to 2018 WC.
@tj2645
@tj2645 2 жыл бұрын
The dutch football education is to strong for kick and Rush England.
@EKcyclist
@EKcyclist 2 жыл бұрын
@@tj2645 to be honest, Theo, I think England have an extremely technical side now. They will be a real force at the Euros. I just hope that they have an off day against Scotland 🤣
@tj2645
@tj2645 2 жыл бұрын
@@EKcyclist you'r right mate.
@raiderbelacasa
@raiderbelacasa 2 жыл бұрын
And the coach of the Netherlands was Dick Advocaat, who was at the World Cup in 1994 and coached the South Korean national team at the 2006 World Cup. Interestingly, Brazilian narrator Luciano do Valle mentioned that São Paulo's second goal against Flamengo (which faced each other for the Libertadores Cup at the time) was similar to the Netherlands' second goal against England. I came here to see if it was similar and nothing to see.
@allws9683
@allws9683 4 жыл бұрын
😬, England were very unlucky in those two games! At the Wembley game Holland was blown away, until Jan Wouters made himself 'wide' against Gascoigne's cheekbone, and here Koeman definitely had to be sent off.. In the 90s Holland's qualifiying campaigns were almost as exciting as the tournaments.
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