SFM vs S2FM (1000 sub special)

S2FM has a lot of cool new surprises, but can it compete with the original SFM's massive collection of user created content?
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[@Gobrus]

This always makes me remember that SFM is still technically in beta

[@Wadetata]

Yes “still” for YEARS

[@FootageFortress2]

WAIT WHAT?!

[@Imagine_Dying]

@@FootageFortress2the app window says source filmmaker beta

[@YoshiAngemon]

To paraphrase Walt Disney, “Source Filmmaker will never be completed. It will continue to grow as long as there is new content left in the world.” And who will provide that new content? The Users! Tron once fought for the Users, and in a way, he is Alan's NetNavi.

[@laurynassuliauskas167]

SFM2 would be superior if it had the same amount of assets available that SFM1 does. While the program itself is obviously so much better, the limited assets is a bummer. IMO if you want to learn something superior to SFM then just choose something like UE5 instead.

[@christhefirst]

you cant put gman in a funny pose in ue5

[@TJK10Able]

I just hope I can hop on to the S2FM bandwagon (Once I have models of my OCs ported to there) as this thing looks promising, especially since HL:A is a VR-only game in which I am more into VR than flat-screen gaming, tbh.

[@elimcgamerguy]

if you ask me, it's about equal, I get immersed in games pretty easily, so the fact that it's VR or not really doesn't bother me I also don't have a VR headset of my own, but i have tried someone else's, and it was great, but for now it seems like a expensive novelty.

[@EvoSwatch]

12:22 R34 SFM be like: All jokes aside, this is very interesting and a nice video. Never knew how SFM works. Poggers.

[@cgijoe5671]

God dammit

[@s01-x8h]

be like what... where is joke

[@valerabaglej7437]

@@s01-x8h whoosh haha

[@epsilon1135]

@@s01-x8h I think its when he says "and boy does that look good from behind"

[@StupidEdits]

13:21

[@frost15693]

just came across this video from a comment on the “official titanfall 3 trailer” and i wasnt expecting much coming to this channel. genuinely surprised at your mic quality, editing flow, and obvious amount of effort put into the video. good on you man, keep making videos.

[@mand0fam569]

What I like most about this video is his use of his own persona, it could've just been any animation video but the character expressing emotions gives me happy emotions I love this editing :D

[@cgijoe5671]

Hell yea, glad ya like it! A lot more original than my last persona

[@TheJosiahTurner]

ive been SFMing for 5 years and I didn't know what the hell radius did i feel like a dinosaur

[@grantlauzon5237]

Now that could be a background for Gmod 2.

[@KoalaTContent]

12:40 Relatable... I literally have an entire hard drive dedicated exclusively to SFM...

[@xenopholis47]

And here I am pulling out my hair in making scenes within MAYA...... someone kill me LMAO

[@richardbudicek1508]

Get blender, it's *easy*

[@xenopholis47]

@@richardbudicek1508 I humbly appreciate you reply but I am going to make a joke by saying that "as if I didn't know about blender LOL"

[@xenopholis47]

@@richardbudicek1508 Currently I am learning Maya so I got low key triggered XD when I saw the vid XD

[@partiallyslicedbread369]

@@xenopholis47 heyyy maya gang, making me want to die every step of the way TwT

[@xenopholis47]

@@partiallyslicedbread369 Welcome to the club...... LOL

[@Calum...]

today i finally learnt what sfm meant

[@Zzeref17]

I'm going to get together to buy half life alyx even if I don't have VR c:

[@Phantom-el6oe]

S2FM is included in Steam VR from what I heard. Edit: It's in workshop tools, but you need to download all Alyx workshop assets manually

[@kisorta]

As someone on blender this really looks like a nightmare, specifically for lighting

[@YoYoBobbyJoe]

I work on a seven-year-old middle-of-the-road-at-that-time laptop. I used SFM once. I don't think it's been the same since.

[@v3xman]

Can't believe you only have 3k subscribers This feels like a video from someone with at least 100k subs

[@reeceulf]

This video is awesome. Your editing here is simple, yet does a satisfying job, and not to mention the actual posters you made were fantastic. Thank you for the informative vid. Congrats on 1k. :]

[@Die-Coughman]

I've been using sfm for 4 years. No one told me about radius.

[@osorio.2591]

my god you are an amazing artist this is not just poggers,this is ADVANCED POGGERS

[@ceno7046]

How do you have no idea how you got to 1K subs, yet even YOU notice how amazing and fantastic your work is. Accept the fact you're fucking amazing.

[@ImaSneke]

Can't wait to see all the "homework" people make with this!

[@NeomiFloof]

This vid is the actual reason i bought s2fm and i love it so far! Thx for showing the new things in s2fm man! :3 keep up the great videos!

[@solaris5303]

S2FM is better in each and every way _except_ the workshop. It's easy as fuck to port over old content, but it's not drag-and-drop.

[@kanuan3677]

ok now i want to really know how to port from sfm to s2fm, im gonna see if Joe has a tutorial

[@RobG95]

Could you make a detailed video about lighting in S2FM? I’m amazed you don’t have more subs btw

[@RIPStudioOfficial]

how have i never heard of this... after using sfm for soo long and patiently waiting for an sfm update this was here all along

[@LouisVClark]

Man I wish more people made more videos about S2FM. Keep up the great work!!!

[@Winkmyster]

Quality of a 1 million subscriber KZbinr, nice.

[@AyeNash727]

I was thinking about sfm or c4d, I had no idea s2fm was a thing. I guess I’ll start there!

[@shell-lesskoopa6830]

Its pretty cool seeing you load in models because if i do it my sfm crashes

[@ScruffyGamerAnimations]

Thank god you know how to actually light a scene. I hate SFM's bloom and always set it to 0. Do you know of the good launch options too? -sfm_shadowmapres 8192 -sfm_resolution 2160 +mat_antialias 8 +mat_forceaniso 16 -reflectiontexturesize 4096 -monitortexturesize 4096 +flex_smooth 0 +mat_wateroverlaysize 1024 +mat_envmapsize 256 +mat_mipmaptextures 0 -monitortexturesi

[@Midnoot87]

Thank you for the settings

[@polyg0ne20]

ah yes, a new youtube channel that I can sink tons of my time into instead of working.

[@apostleraffan6773]

Poggers, you're very underrated.

[@loungegod]

I've never really been interested in engines or SFM stuff but you have me hyped for S2 and S2FM, awesome video dude.

[@Terandium]

This video singlehandedly inspired me to use Blender and start making scenes/models.

[@gordonnumbertwo1922]

Very nice video you did my friend!

[@kami_nexishka]

I feel like a Disney character about to change sides from good to bad.

[@jocosesonata]

I can't wait to see what all sorts of 3D por- I mean, _animations_ Source 2 Film Makers will bring us in the future!

[@GreatMCGamer]

You know youtube algorithm works when you get under 100k sub channels in recommended.

[@YourPalKindred]

I can't wait until people start making lewd S2fm models hehe

[@wendigo4935]

You've gained a sub, you've earned it. Stay frosty, Joe.

[@kim-hendrikmerk4163]

Daaaaam this looks amazing

[@blacklight683]

0:20it was the rock all along

[@charlioanimations]

4:48 Dudeeeee i didn't know this, thanks

[@unfa00]

Almost 5k subs now :)

[@xxdeadhavocxx3236]

honestly your funny asf so just for that ill sub

[@LegendaCast]

congrats, you are insane.

[@xombie9383]

POGGERS. ABSOLUTE POGGERS ON S2FM

[@HPLGamerz]

awesome video.. S2FM is lit af..

[@tananonn6778]

I'm glad I found channel, this video is amazing! Keep up the good work :D

[@Lactopurg4]

underrated channel

[@MyLittleMagneton]

As an actual dev (not for valve) a 50mb is truly tiny. I've filled up terabytes of space with crashdumps, lol.

[@alacan]

Your content is great, thanks youtube for recommending me an actual good content creator. Finally a good successor to SFM xD

[@nictomahawk7018]

So you have two options here. Either use a program that's free but outdated and more prone to errors or use a program that's more efficient and up to date but you have to pay $60 to use.

[@redboy3743]

That video was fun, didn't even notice how long it was.

[@Tilin2461]

Finally a video about s2fm

[@raqtty]

SFM is Blender for poor people *(joke warning)*

[@Ludwig_Perpenhente]

Wait a minute

[@Crazylom]

SFM is for people who are either masochistic or not ready yet to get into blender.

[@Natixir]

@@Crazylom i use sfm cause i genuinely cant understand blender, in sfm textures are already there and stuff like that

[@raqtty]

@? ah shit here we go again

[@raqtty]

@@Natixir I strongly recommend learning blender, it's so much fun to work in a blender you are seriously missing out.

[@Miracle7Seven]

Holy shit this makes me really feel like I can make animations and stuff! It’s like Mine-Imator but not just Minecraft!!! (I’m talking like 2013 Mi cuz that’s the last time I used it)

[@garoto_espacial1414]

Oh yeah s2fm seems REALLY good Sad that i can't download it cuz my PC is TRASH

[@Ema_Gervax]

Are there working jigglebones in s2fm?

[@sizzlet01]

wait this actually looks really cool to try out

[@thefancydoge8668]

Lol I can't even run regular sfm let alone this

[@dezyLmedia]

I'm not even interested in animation or use SFM, but great video nonetheless! Your content quality seems way above your (current) subscriber count.

[@cgijoe5671]

Glad to hear it!

[@cupcakemcsparklebutt9051]

Well, what are yiu interested in?

[@afuea-qg5yo]

no im gonna keep making gmod art lol

[@gizzy8423]

Neat video. From the effort you put into them, I'm surprised you have 2.1k

[@DrStxche]

As freakin awesome as S2FM looks to use, I'm gonna still stick with sfm. (Partly cuz I'm dirt broke...xD ) That, and I actually love the challenge of creating good, natural, even realistic lighting straight from scratch in sfm!

[@dronako]

Great video!!

[@patodeweloperka]

Did you manage to export phenomene working in S2FM for automatic lipsync like in S1FM? I tried with Alyx, Gordon, Larry and it seems it's failling. Also show waveform attribute in timeline never display waveform in green box, tried with vsnd and wav. Is is totally broken in S2FM like community forum says?

[@vv6152]

This is a really good video

[@gamer65688]

Why do you only have 2.33k subscribers? Honestly i thought you'd have more subs by the effort you put into editing this video!

[@CoasterHorizons]

this guy should have a video game that's a platformer with bullet time and is based around blood, bullets, and bananas. wait...

[@vladbat4050]

I have a bit of a different perspective of SFM, S2FM, and 3D Software such as Blender, Maya, C4D, etc. I had a bit of fun in SFM a few years ago and messed around with being in tf2 maps and random models from the workshop, never really made anything to save but it was fun. During that time was my first try with Blender in it's 2.7 days with how unfriendly and confusing it looked, (barely could even do half of the old donut tutorial) so I then dropped Blender at the time. 2-3 years later I picked it up again after being inspired and motivated to do my own stuff and learn more but that went down hill.As I grew more used to SFM I eventually just didn't like using the tools and navigation and quickly got bored and unmotivated to use it trying to make some sort of posters but I just didn't feel like it was my own truly original idea. So I dropped SFM for a few months (around march 2020) and in mid summer 2020 I tried out a bit of Blender through some tutorials on it's rather good looking GUI and the Blender Foundation Tutorials that helped greatly with using Blender 2.83 and ever since with a little over a year of using Blender for making posters, messing with textures, and learning more about the program I learned more about it and enjoyed using it over SFM and S2FM. The biggest Pro's to blender is that well simply put, you can download it for free and get going with a tutorial or explore it on your own! Along with file sizes luckily Blender alone is about 400 mb (could be wrong as updates happen) and files can be relatively small for simple scenes. Along with good file sizes the open source nature of Blender allows more freedom for file types to import or export so various source files can be put into Blender with the proper know how. IMO Blender is the better free 3D software compared to both SFM and S2FM for those looking for a good point to learn a 3D program that many talented artists use to make some fantastic animated movie, artwork, and fantastic visual effects even! :D

[@cgijoe5671]

I don’t think anyone in the Milky Way galaxy would disagree that blender is better than sfm. I’ll take it a step further, I think blender is even better than maya, 3dsmax, or even GMOD

[@CallMe_Boris]

Like cgijoe said. Also the whole point of SFM/S2FM is not to make stuff like what blender does but to make stuff oriented around valve games (and fnaf if you must)

[@TheXenomorphGuySMSE]

what did you use for the skybox in the first scene?

[@randomitsnot1400]

The synth wave makes this epic as fuck

[@elponogris8588]

What is the map you used in the SFM part? 2:33

[@leomrenders9150]

Your skills are quite inspirational!

[@XORA-CODEYX]

This is qualitiy content! I wonder why you only have 3k subs.

[@Danilows]

R.I.P Brad

[@sashastelline]

You said you don't own Blender, but Blender is free and open-source software.

[@CarlBergsdorf]

He said he dont own a* blender xD

[@janAkaliKilo]

Can't wait to see what features Valve will add in Source 3 Film Maker. Oh no.

[@bobbarkin2880]

pog. thats dope af

[@blacklight683]

sad part:we will never see s3fm cuz valve

[@SpectrePilot301]

Each time I think I get better at sfm shit like this makes me wonder why I missed out on the good stuff

[@cgijoe5671]

What good stuff are ya missing out on? You’re getting better and that’s what matters

[@SpectrePilot301]

@@cgijoe5671 I'm saying I'm missing out on two things. 1 better ways of using lighting in sfm and 2 s2fm since it's better in every way possible

[@cgijoe5671]

@@SpectrePilot301 well, not every way. There’s a couple of things that make sfm better. Firstly, there’s just more models in sfm thanks to the big community. Secondly, s2fm doesn’t have hdr lighting, which basically means that when you light stuff, it’ll appear washed out and desaturated. Not to mention you gotta buy Alex for s2fm, and sfm is free! I prefer s2fm, but sfm is still good!

[@SpectrePilot301]

@@cgijoe5671 gonna praise the day s2fm becomes free and not a exclusive. Still dont get why they thought that was a good idea

[@anzac407]

Awesome!

[@turbochop3300]

Sooo... May I use that example as my wallpaper? It looks pretty freaking rad!

[@RuiSilva450]

Was expecting the same scene on both to have a direct comparison but oh well

[@Nirwanaa]

... I prefer the first one you've made lmao. Imo a proper comparison would've been making/exporting(?) the same scenario in source 2 to actually show the differences. Good video nonetheless.

[@Tronoid]

I just recently bought HLA ONLY to get my hands on S2FM. Since I don't have VR, I don't care at all about the game. Luckily for me the game had a price reduction. I really want to get started using it, but I want to know how s2fm handles a tool that I use A LOT in SFM. Override Materials. For example, I don't know if S2FM allows me to use an integer like $risframe. Which I use to make irises shrink on certain models. Is this option still available on S2FM ?

[@dangerousdpad9079]

Would you think there would be a sfm civil war?

[@Emm1lyn]

It was Herobrine the entire time

[@StormTeeVee]

12:44 thank god you said something about that I had to check myself and my computer is about to explode

[@TheDevinator101]

Ive never seen your videos before, and I've only watched 2 minutes so far...But has anyone told you that you could totally make a kick ass mass effect morden video and voice act for him? I totally hear the doctor in your voice

[@Atilolzz]

Gaben in 2030: "We are Proud to announce Source 2 Film Maker 2 Episode 2"

[@letmedwight]

I dont use Filmmaker, but I used many years the Hammer Editor of Source 1 for Gmod and a thing that I really hated, was that you never know how bright your light is because you allways have to compile your map, start your game and load your map first before you can take a look if your point light or spotlight is to bright, to dark or good enought for your map... After I started using Source 2 Hammer for S&Box, I finally can see the brightness of lights, HDR and Nav Mesh is no longer a horrible complicated thing like in Source 1 and I can make curves much more easy with the 3D Editor rotating Transformation instead of spawning a curve that you have to calculate first, if it is large or small enough to fit in your map. If you make real working Rail Tracks in Source 1 for Gmod Train Addons on your map, you will have not a easy time to use the Arch Properties Window to spawn curves where the middle of curve is not same as thick like the ends of it what would end up in derailments) But this was hisatory with Source 2 Hammer, where you can directly copy rotate the edges to a curve where every edge have the same size and where you are not limited anymore on on grid level "1" and you are free to make it small down to "0.125" and where you are no more limited to a world border and you can make your map much more larger than the 600x600x600meters default map border of Source 1... 🥳

[@wierdsnake]

There are tools that allow you to see the lights in hammer without compiling the map every time. Does my dumb ass use them? Nope.

[@Akanono]

Do you have a video showing how to port into s2fm?

[@BOSSposes]

Theres a TOOL plugin free for blender Where you can import anything Source film actually incredible MDL All way to bsp in a single click imports all textures material its called SourceIO 2ndly get Blendkit a plugin that brings a community asset windows into it so u can just click and HDR and add it makes sfm files look like real damn near real

[@triumphator4714]

What is the folder called with all the Crash reports?

[@cgijoe5671]

Its all in usermod

[@diditogm]

You deserve way more subs

[@puggamer2004]

s2fm looks amazing

[@felixkjornsberg]

This guy is too good for 3k subs only

[@JolgiFOlgi]

VERY NICE.

[@blackhood7200]

Hey Joe, you do commissions to make sfm animations and posters?

[@cgijoe5671]

Not right now no, though its something I been thinking about

[@blackhood7200]

@@cgijoe5671 ok. Let me know when they are open. I'd like to commission you sometime. :)