CGP Grey was WRONG

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[@Victoriasm31]

TLDR: Grey is lucky he didn't get attacked by an owl.

[@jordandeshan8020]

This is the only important point in the whole video^^ /s (where the 's' stands for seagull)

[@1224chrisng]

@@jordandeshan8020 but the seagull keep pokin' my head, not fun but the seagulls, mmh, stop it now [music]

[@enregistreur]

@1224ChrisNg my stick is better than baconnnnmmm

[@moseszero3281]

@@1224chrisng That log had a child.

[@ajthevillageidiot]

Actually, hootis8 was that owl. So he did get attacked, technically.

[@grandayy]

best apology video

[@matthewquach2705]

Grandayy hey

[@thejungwookim]

Not enough mid-roll ad breaks tho

[@saulgoodman5482]

its grandayy

[@unfetteredparacosmian]

Eyyy it's grandayy!

[@thephantom1259]

Man the fact that grandayy actually watched this video means he is interested in historical which tbh I would not think he would be

[@EpichistoryTv]

Every educational KZbinr knows and shares your pain.

[@marceltelang7825]

nice your here

[@Staminokka]

Ew your here

[@jonahmaghinay1700]

wow epic history is here nic

[@MADiamond2191]

@@handl3d u really gonna do that to him

[@zoot7981]

@@Staminokka ouch

[@AMTunLimited]

I appreciate that your animator drew himself eating crayons

[@whatthefridge1o1]

Lmao true

[@aaronmellado3570]

@ASMR Tforter 4:24

[@froggyo8751]

Lol

[@burakalp34]

@@aaronmellado3570 Also on 2:46 and 5:41

[@acon70]

Fake

[@mjr_schneider]

Grey's dad saying "The cost of perfection is infinite" to Grey as a child explains everything about his current personality.

[@spaceghost7807]

“ Grey is string theory in a persons body “ - cosmic forces

[@acebalistic1358]

Bernardo Costa seizure?

[@arfyness]

Held onto that nugget like a starving coyote.

[@arfyness]

@@acebalistic1358 My vote is on Butt Text. I got similar messages from my dad while he was doing yard work. Had to call because I was concerned. It was good for a right laugh.

[@bernardocosta01123]

@@acebalistic1358 unlocked phone in my pocket... I never learn...

[@borgiedude]

Imagine if our politicians showed this level of accountability and humility.

[@armorsmith43]

Such politicians would get voted out of office faster than you can say “potatoe”

[@attroxhippo6938]

Andrew Farrell sadly that’s what happens

[@KareemEltouny]

Someone didn't watch "The rules for rulers"!

[@simjampet]

So what you are saying is: Gray for president?

[@Luredreier]

We *kind* of got that here in Norway, and from what I've heard there might be *something* like that in Canada (correct me if I'm wrong). It's of course going to depend on the political climate in a country, the political tradition, the electoral system, the party in question and it's voters (the voters of some parties are way more accepting of mistakes and humility then others) and of course the individual politicians.

[@scrotymcboogerballs6756]

Me who watched this all the way through even though I watched none of the Tekoi videos: *interesting*

[@akunekochan]

Same

[@GweiTheLeafChild]

Probably says a lot about youtube's system, correcting videos tanks its visibility

[@kerrychristensen7204]

👍

[@Zephyr_197]

Same

[@Adamimoka]

Same lol

[@PrometheusV]

“If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter.” -Dumbledore, Lord of the Rings

[@blueeye2281]

Said calmly

[@lisabriggs9064]

@@blueeye2281 XD

[@yeboi1887]

if i had more time, i would have written a shorter letter - Joseph Stalin, Macbeth

[@blueeye2281]

@@yeboi1887 wait till kids come and woooosh you.

[@jeffwho]

@@yeboi1887 r/woooosh

[@Endeva09]

“The best thing about the Internet is everyone can express their opinion, the worst thing about the Internet is everyone does” - Socrates

[@zed95]

Didnt know he revived himself to live in the internet age. Interesting

[@TypeInNameHere]

LMFAO

[@dacelikethefish587]

@@zed95 He used to go to chariot races with Twain and Pascal. Fun fact.

[@grimlockorc]

I always seem to miss his live streams.

[@Batmagoo]

"Most citations on the internet are completely mande up. Not this one though, I promise" - a talking dog

[@basher515a]

CGP Grey: Says he's wrong. KZbin: THIS GUY IS WRONG, LETS PUT HIM ON TRENDING.

[@NathanTheNinjaTaylor]

KZbin really does like promoting wrong people, at least it gets to be CGP Grey this time!

[@ethanthepogman]

D C what, you scared of spelling it?

[@aholesahole]

@@boopsboops7692 You're much too kind to YT. I would've started my expletive with a capital C.

[@potatopotatoeOG]

KZbin loves Cancel videos. I just wanted to know what CGG was

[@boopsboops7692]

Ninja Ethan Ah yes my greatest fear, spelling the dreaded ass word

[@daneeko]

“If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter.” -Tom Scott

[@davidplayzyt3338]

"There are three types of lies -- lies, damn lies, and misattributed quotes." -Spiro Agnew.

[@HEX_17]

That does sound like something he would say

[@spencerrn]

"If I had more time I would have written a shorter letter." -Albert Einstein

[@zyansheep]

"Don't believe everything you read on the internet" -Abraham Lincoln

[@jaimem9869]

"If I had more time, I would have a shorter letter." -mick wachowski

[@StoutShako]

"If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter." -- Twilight Sparkle

[@notsostrange6177]

aong us

[@tomepsilon]

OH.

[@jf17thunder63]

“My dear student twilight, Wether your letter be short or long, I, as your Teacher would’ve read it. Only if the attribution of this quote was correct” -Princess Celestia, My little Pony

[@tomepsilon]

@@jf17thunder63 FINALLY

[@theCodyReeder]

This is why I really like Mr. Grey.

[@Ekvitarius]

Why do you comment on (almost) everything that I watch?

[@bloodyhell8201]

Ayy Cody likes grey

[@IndigoGollum]

Again, it's super cool that all the awesome internet people are aware of eachother!

[@danielkron2513]

eating uranium when

[@georgiosrinakakis934]

:)

[@Jouzou87]

"CGP Grey gets attacked by owl" would probably have gone viral

[@johnnypopstar]

Grey: I'm going to explore this interesting site Owl: O RLY?

[@joeyscerbo7776]

johnnypopstar Owl really

[@johnnypopstar]

@@joeyscerbo7776 how to tell you're getting old: when you're the only one in the room who remembers the "o rly owl" 😔

[@Kirb]

@@johnnypopstar lolwut

[@AlethaPrime]

@@johnnypopstar I got your back. It's an old meme, but it checks out.

[@monkeydonk3925]

I wish everybody would be like this when they make a mistake. Not only did you publicly admit you were wrong, but you told us the truth, and explained why you were wrong. Imagine how much better the world would be if everyone did this. You're great, Grey.

[@callmeishmael5742]

I guess you could say he's grey-t

[@monkeydonk3925]

@@callmeishmael5742 Grey would be proud of you

[@kenc2257]

But, mostly/only for MAJOR mistakes...minor errors certainly don't need an elaborate mea culpa.

[@skiffy8121]

@@kenc2257 oh no, i ate an extra pretzel, let me make a 2 hour video on it to apologize

[@OktoberSunset]

I wish CGP Grey was like this about the pro-monarchy video he made that was just stuffed with monarchist propaganda and misinformation.

[@EnterJustice]

"The cost of perfection is infinite." That's true on so many different levels. Your dad must be a philosopher.

[@viviblue7277]

Many dads are.

[@thinhnonyt]

@@viviblue7277 facts man.

[@DMN1-1]

Think his dad is a mathematition

[@NoriMori1992]

His dad is (or was) a lawyer.

[@BlueRedGooGoo]

^Lawyer.

[@MichaelUrocyon]

This is what integrity looks like, with a heavy side of bonus history.

[@tealmer3528]

This.

[@jeckart3d]

The world need more of this.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

Something made by a person with these qualities is a rare and beautiful thing.

[@nightbringar7558]

Why will he not address the America Pox video where he follows guns, germs, and steel? Guns, germs, and steel was written by someone who isn't an expert in anthropology and academia completely disagrees with his conclusions.

[@TROPtastic]

@@nightbringar7558 Not to mention (although a lot less serious a topic) the "True Cost of the Monarchy" video. In it, some claims are objectively wrong and others use faulty logic. It is an older video, but it could still use fixing.

[@EmergentSea1]

This here is why we trust you. When you make a serious mistake, you don’t try to cover it up or make excuses, you embrace it and fix it.

[@arkatub]

eh, I recall discussing a major mistake he made, in the comments like a year ago, don't remember him addressing it.

[@nothingineternityterms]

Maybe just don't trust anyone blindly. Everyone you get information from is a flawed human.

[@Andy-rn2xl]

I never made and mistakes

[@Richard_is_cool]

There was the whole UK monarchy thing.

[@viviblue7277]

Vatican City is more accurately described as a theocracy not a monarchy but absolute monarchy is “technically correct” but still a mistake as mentioned in this video.

[@ReneSchickbauer]

In software development we have something called the "Vorführeffekt" (which roughly translates to english as "demonstration effect"). You can test your system a hundred times back to front with multiple coworkers giving it a go. But no matter what, in less than 5 minutes into showing the software to a customer the thing will hit a major bug that will result in embarassement.

[@kcgunesq]

I've been on a CGP Grey binge. Seriously, how did I not know about this channel years ago? These are some of the best videos on the internet.

[@CarlsCozyCorner]

For some more broad stories I recommend Oversimplified

[@Nightingale_time]

Welcome to the community!

[@pablorepetto2759]

Hear, hear!

[@gsyamsri8122]

And me still feeling late on this channel while I've been here for years and years. Because yes you said it, once you know it, you really wonder how you can have survived THAT LONG without it. This question still needs an answer.

[@brumptychipmunksey361]

Welcome to the Grey Viewership Society! We swear it’s not a cult!

[@MlRAAK]

The fact that Grey was so upset about making a mistake that I personally would have forgiven easily shows how talented and committed he is to his content. Really it's very impressive. I would've been happy with a 90 second footnote.

[@lopez.jacinto.6726]

And still he doesn't correct the one about the monarchy.

[@sirduckoufthenorth]

@@lopez.jacinto.6726 curious, what was wrong on that?

[@ew6483]

Gabriel jacinto lópez Which mistake?

[@FireStormOOO_]

I think this is a big part of why millions of people watch CGP Grey instead of the garbage clickbait that permeates most of the internet. Attention to detail and intellectual integrity are rare and valuable things. Also research is hard.

[@lopez.jacinto.6726]

@@sirduckoufthenorth Well, for starters he didn't include the travel and security expenses for the monarchy in the numbers he presents in that video.

[@garrettrichards9028]

The bots are getting more sophisticated with their colourful eyes. They're upgrading.

[@matthewhubka6350]

I like to think he made a bunch of AI’s like Jarvis

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

Lol Yea we need to stop them

[@katl8825]

I'd love to know more about his team, tbh XD the behind-the-scenes work is always really impressive, and always way more than I ever expect.

[@chalkskeleton3653]

They reminded me of the kursgezat birds

[@sleepysenpai35]

100% agree! I’d love it if the robots could get names or designations. I figure the people may not want their real names revealed, so fun code-names would be funny 😆

[@dreadlordvellan733]

This commitment to (obsession with) being correct is how we ended up with the Tiffany rabbit hole. I see you, Grey. And thanks.

[@carfreakUSA]

There's owning up to your mistakes, and then there's making an 18 minute video explaining how it happened and why it shouldn't have. Mad respect!

[@michelterry5445]

Fixing a mistake that only a very niche group of people would ever realize is why this channel is so great. Facts matter here.

[@SerenityM54L2SAM5L5N1]

Certain media corporations should get some inspiration. Factual publications is incredibly important in today's day and age.

[@MagnumPI308]

That's so true! In fact it even makes them more trustworthy! They show they care a lot! :) (And it's also really nice to see they are not, in fact, superhuman, and make errors as well! Errors are never bad if you learn from them! :))

[@riciso]

*COUGH COUGH* Infographics scp videos *COUGH COUGH*

[@SymmetricalDocking]

Facts *sometimes* matter here. Can't really say that as an absolute when he has so much disinformation in his voting videos.

[@poptart-gj9ih]

@@SymmetricalDocking Would you mind to explain what you mean?

[@user-sl8sv7ip2o]

“Had time; wrote less.” - Script writer for Mr. Bean

[@danielsjohnson]

It's all about being concise. Maximum info in minimum words.

[@user-sl8sv7ip2o]

@@danielsjohnson Nuff sed

[@josepho3364]

"Brevity is the soul of wit."

[@zegmakker5869]

small good

[@peterrafeiner769]

> = +

[@HogEnjoyer]

CGP Grey: I am not the Messiah Everyone: HE IS THE MESSIAH

[@Beretsquid]

I read this in a CGP Grey voice.

[@MarcelloFerrara95]

@@Beretsquid I read it in Brian of Nazareth voice

[@Nadia1989]

He's not the Messiah, he's a very nerdy boy!

[@aaronkorn]

That’s so religiously accurate

[@thomaskositzki9424]

@@KZbin_username. true. Don't know how I missed it. ^^

[@adamweishaupt3733]

"If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter." -CGP Grey

[@TeenVsFood]

Cunningham's Law states "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."

[@jacobmetalcrafter6259]

I think you just proved their point lol

[@simsonian2621]

@@jacobmetalcrafter6259 I think you just missed their joke lol

[@Ricocossa1]

@stockart whiteman I see what you did there.

[@uss_04]

👆well actuallly....

[@Quackery415]

Jacob you have been bamboozled

[@psychohist]

Nice to see someone take an interest in the Cold War. As a 1980s US Navy officer, I'd like to believe the reason there was less information on SLBMs was because the Navy was better about security.

[@davefancella]

Well, they were also quite a bit later to the game then ICBMS, which were even later than basic bombs, so there's a lot left that's still classified, comparatively. ;)

[@neildutoit5177]

As an SLBM, I'm just glad to finally be getting some attention.

[@austintenchavez5102]

@@neildutoit5177 You're a missile?

[@TimLesher]

"The cost of perfection is infinite" I'm not sure if this is a blunder or a clever easter egg, but the graph showing that the cost of perfection is infinite at 17:18 has the axes swapped. If that graph were correct, the cost would be asymptotically approaching a fixed, finite cost, and the "amount of perfection" would be infinite. Fixing this would mean either swapping the axes or else swapping the shape of the curve so that on the right side it gets nearly but never quite flat--vertically never quite getting to (let alone exceeding) "perfect", but with cost increasing forever. Personally, I choose to believe that CGP Grey made a clever, clever commentary on the unachievability of perfection.

[@agrandcanyonoffucksgiven2776]

Nice catch! I was too mesmerized by the quote itself.

[@kama2106]

Congratulations, you ve found a glitch

[@maximmachinegun7206]

Remember back when KZbin actually allowed creators to add annotations on their vids for corrections?

[@lukethekuya]

Sad... They said they removed it due to "being used less." 😢

[@aliski768]

youtube is getting worst every year

[@GamingWithEgan]

@@aliski768 If there was a decent alternative, I would have switched years ago. Unfortunately, every alternative has points that make them HORRID.

[@rosabellewakefield5444]

@@GamingWithEgan Not only that, youtube is a social media site. If no one is on your social media, then going there is worthless.

[@SetariM]

@@lukethekuya Tbh I'm pretty sure that was KZbin's most used feature.

[@Orillion123456]

This three-video series about an abandoned missile testing site has taught me a lot about your psyche.

[@oO_ox_O]

Check out his podcasts.

[@ethan1142028]

​@@oO_ox_O Cortex is literally the multi year live-accounting of a semi-sane (atleast functioning) apple fanboy being driven mad to the point he's as obsessive and unproductive as Grey

[@redcoat4348]

Grey's psyche is overall filled with a lot of weird and oftentimes debilitating quirks, to the point that I genuinely am concerned with his coping mechanisms and his insane work ethic... Not even joking it's pretty concerning.

[@themadpyro8560]

@@redcoat4348 The fact that he puts so much work into being productive that it eats into his productivity isn't really ok

[@mzaite]

@@redcoat4348 I had to stop listening to the podcast after a while because it started feeling like I was hearing someone slowly go deep crazy.

[@PiercingSight]

"The cost of perfection is infinite." Is a freaking GREAT quote. Gosh dang!

[@jenniferk4336]

Ahhhhh yes. This is what it's like to be a perfectionist. I don't know anything about Tekoi or making videos, but I 100% relate to this long winded explanation of thoughts, processes, and the horror of being WRONG!

[@driveasandwich6734]

"The internet will tell you really fast if you're wrong." even if you're right.

[@AFrogInTheStars]

That’s not true! You’re wrong

[@voidmain2453]

Made my day!

[@kylefarrell849]

@@AFrogInTheStars no you are

[@NeverEverTM]

My 27 PhDs gave me the right to say you are totally wrong

[@colinorryay]

whatever ye say, buckaroo

[@iammrbeat]

Videos like this is why we appreciate you so much.

[@marnie4629]

It's always so weird to see my favourite KZbinrs respecting and appreciating each other.

[@camelopardalis84]

@@marnie4629 One of your favourite youtubers named his dog after a war criminal because he's a war criminal who does bad things in his job but is the kind of guy you'd want to have a beer with. Edit: Replaced a "the" with an "a". Edit 2: Deleted superfluous word.

[@totalynotcatherine]

For a moment I thought your channel was "Mr.Beast" and was confused about why you didn't have more likes. I'm still confused about why you have only 367...

[@k4four615]

@@camelopardalis84, Who?

[@camelopardalis84]

@@k4four615 Mr. Beat named his dog after George W. Bush.

[@AHSEN.]

"Top Sneaky" 🤣 I'm going to use this from now on instead of top secret because it's so good.

[@thelocalnecromancer1224]

Hello, CGP Grey. I know you probably won't read this, since this video is a year old, but I might as well share it anyway. Your channel is one of my favorite channels because your way of explaining things in such a simple way is absolutely wonderful. Your videos are always interesting and I can basically understand everything about the videos, with few exceptions. You genuinely care about sharing accurate information, and I love that. You have an extraordinary ability to cover complex topics with simple explanations and simple visuals without oversimplifying. Please make more videos, I really enjoy them.

[@nazsiwagemelas9359]

“The cost of perfection is a story for another time” -CGP Grey

[@MrEtnie]

Nazsiwa Gemelas I want that story told! 😅

[@courtweathers4770]

But what a marvelous quotation from his father “the cost of perfection is infinite.“ Being too much of that breed, I hope I can inculcate that concept into my life.

[@ManuelMartinez-hz6ml]

Other creators: "Oops, I said that fact wrong. Well, I'll edit the video description or leave a fixed comment clarifying it". Grey: *18 minute video*

[@Neds_Severed_Head]

Even that is better than one example I have from a creator I used to support on Patreon. They used the same stat twice in a video but with a different number, it was obvious they mis-spoke so I wanted to let them know. I jumped on Discord - "Hey great video, but did you notice.. yada yada...." I get a reply from the creator - "Well shit, I guess I'm just terrible at my job!" Que mass "no, you're wonderful" from the rest of the chat and me feeling like an asshole. I don't support this person anymore.

[@ArtemisScribe]

He's an educator

[@bugeyes102]

18 minute video + a reuploaded/edited video of the original one that had a mistake

[@jacklinton4885]

It reminds me a lot of a couple of videos Tom Scott did - definitely a sign of a creator who cares about their craft.

[@mrosskne]

editing the description would have been a better use of his time.

[@BendySnowball]

"Wendover Airfield" Yeah sounds about right.

[@ehaslage]

It’s right next to the Wendover Train Depot and the HAI BrickWorks.

[@madman6361]

“i find it harder to finish a project once it’s out in the open” the reservations video:

[@tayplayzgamez822]

I love how Grey is not only willing to admit when he's wrong but is even willing to fix what he did wrong

[@BigMastah79]

I mean, that’s what we should expect from everyone and it shouldn’t be seen as “omg you’re so amazing”, it’s what any decent person does.

[@dattebenforcer]

He didn't fix Scotland.

[@UwU-sp9be]

Hating without a motive seems nice

[@BigMastah79]

UwU k

[@LyriCrystal]

@@BigMastah79 What's wrong with acknowledging that someone is a decent person? Everyone needs feedback. If you want to reinforce positive behaviors, you give a suitable reward. In this case, it's the compliment.

[@jackbourdeaux5800]

Grey has now confirmed the existence of a Greyverse and I honestly couldn’t be happier

[@dorugi20]

Somehow I read it as GeyVerse I want in.

[@driveasandwich6734]

what?

[@neumo5005]

You mean like a spiderverse for grey? (And also when was this revealed?)

[@zexionthefirst6767]

@@neumo5005 9:13

[@thebirds4588]

You did not already know?

[@PhoenixFlame321]

How to deal with big mistakes you do in public: 1= Ignore the mistake's exitence (only viable with glitches and lesser blunders) 2= Double down on it and gaslight the audience to agree with you (Shame on you) 3= Let go of petty pride, be at peace with your natural lack of perfection, admit you screwed up and do what is necessary to correct it (The right choice Grey picked)

[@georgesmithpatton6382]

"I'm about to do what's called a pro gamer move"- hootis8 (maybe)

[@cya4009]

Grey: Makes a small and mostly negligible mistake Also Grey: *_Failure has exceeded accepted levels_*

[@Mahons]

Well it wasn't really a small mistake given that it was what the entire video was about. Since the video was about What is Tekoi and saying that it is one thing when it is another would be wrong. For the average audience like me it is not a big deal but if you are a content creator trying to be factual it is a huge deal, if you say something that is just out right wrong and a thing that you could have caught.

[@jamesleather7524]

@@Mahons some humans see a big error, some don't at all!

[@Ozukai]

@@Mahons i really don't care if the content he's making its true, i just want a relaxing voice talking about stuff like Grey's

[@Mahons]

@@jamesleather7524 ​"For the average audience like me it is not a big deal but if you are a content creator trying to be factual it is a huge deal, if you say something that is just out right wrong and a thing that you could have caught."

[@Mahons]

@@Ozukai ​okay

[@melangalade]

ah yes, the differencies between Trident and Minuteman rocket engines. They gave me existential dread too

[@Aiham]

😂😂😂😂😂😂. I swear man i resepct greys hustle to respect the information. But this seems a bit too much. For a switch of names

[@AndyHappyGuy]

It’s still misleading. For example, I’ve seen a channel cover the story of Violet Jessop (Check out her story on Wikipedia). In one part of the video, they used the wrong picture of a shipwreck she survived (the sinking of the HMHS Britannic). This was misleading, people didn’t notice it so the channel let it slide. It was a blunder that became a gigantic error. If everybody does this, people will believe that the MV Britannic was the HMHS Britannic and it tarnishes the history of the ships and Violet herself.

[@PhilipJFry-qh2jg]

For real. Don't get me wrong, facts matter, especially in regards to history. But C'mon, man!

[@B3RyL]

@@AndyHappyGuy My questions are: One, were the ships a completely different class, as in, was one a large warship and the other a fishing boat? Two, were they built in a vastly different period, as in one was a XV century caravel, and the other a XX century ocean liner? Three, do you really think the people who did not pick up on this mistake were the kind of people who would be offended had it been revealed to them? And conversely, wouldn't the people who are really into maritime history not pick up on the mistake and just correct it in the comments section for the interested few anyway, which I'm sure already happened? And finally, following up from the previous question, what makes you say it was a "gigantic error"? If it was picked up and corrected in the comments by the people who are into maritime history for the benefit of other people who are or could potentially be interested in maritime history, while the rest of the viewers just didn't care, what makes you say it was a "gigantic mistake"? Because from what I can tell it was pretty inconsequential - the people who were interested got corrected pretty quickly and unobtrusively, and those who weren't, wouldn't care either way.

[@JordanBartholme]

@@B3RyL Yeah! What you said!

[@mattvoelker241]

As someone who's written some fanfics, i completely understand. Nothing's worse than coming back and finding out your research went down the wrong rabbit hole.

[@TwoTreesStudio]

I come back to rewatch this video every time I'm stuck on some research problem. The way you break down "at this point in the discovery process, I could have done this and found that" over and over is unbelievably helpful. Thanks so much!

[@DragCadRacing]

This one must’ve hurt a lot. Grey deserves a hug, but I’m sure he’d actually feel better if we didn’t.

[@altrag]

Idk.. it garnered him another 57k upvote video :D

[@viktork1526]

I mean we should social distance. Maybe a virtual hug. As a we accept the apology.

[@hotsauce-ud1by]

altrag like* not upvote

[@TimTom]

"The cost of perfection is infinite" is my new favorite quote.

[@safinsalt2265]

😩

[@frnnzy_]

Amazing quote, my dearest favourite youtuber, timtom

[@jr7367]

Putting this here for when this becomes top comment!

[@thelastcube.]

Are horses chairs?

[@providence3977]

Hi TimTom! :D

[@Hyacinth828]

Grey should do a Betamax video to help out the lone Betamax authority just waiting for a letter.

[@Nadia1989]

Techmoan, Databits and Technology Connections are typing...

[@taylorverrall118]

Even though it's an actual place, "Wendover Airfield" feels like it should be an Easter egg.

[@spookscary8169]

when the live chat is member only but the comment's are open: poor gang unite

[@samswich1493]

True

[@gus7814]

Woah, are those the elite people that pay for KZbin premium? I thought it was just a legend.

[@tomoluis_01]

same

[@GaviLazan]

@@gus7814 no, it's people who support Grey on KZbin kind of like Patreon.

[@MichaelTheDane1]

Amen brother

[@grizzlednerd4521]

Mistakes are a part of life, but having someone willing to humbly analyse the processes which resulted in the mistake and failed to catch it, is priceless in my opinion. Thank you!

[@michaelgreen1515]

Hear hear ❣

[@rickyarmstrong5945]

It really is priceless, and something i feel most of the Science/education KZbinrs. Tom Scott had a video a while back that was very similar. It says a lot about the person to be able to admit their mistakes

[@zeycus]

@@rickyarmstrong5945 It is always the small people that tend to ignore or deny their own mistakes.

[@Robert-ku6jx]

You’ve described my greatest difficulty as an author: 1. I want to write about a topic 2. I’m a slow writer so the topic might get scooped. 3. I get paralyzed because if you think too hard, there’s no point in trying.

[@michaelmoreland7024]

Grey, I feel you deeply. As a research publisher, I get the gut wretching feeling of being wrong. Respect for the thorough revision. YT showed me your channel and I'm hooked.

[@Mahbu]

Poor Grey, he's just out there doing his best.

[@CheeseCake4Not]

Correcting and admitting mistakes like this are what builds the most trust as far as I am concerned. Everyone makes mistakes, but not everyone adresses them.

[@hydrogenatom4624]

Don't read my username.

[@austintrose94]

Plus a good error addendum makes for interesting content

[@PhilThomas]

And yet others say they didnt make a mistake at all.

[@Nassifeh]

A great example of how to both admit you're wrong and examine how you got there. It's good to admit when you're wrong, but even better to figure out how you got to the wrong conclusions and how you can do better, even when parts of the process are outside your control.

[@SalelakaMokonzi]

I deeply respect the intellectual honesty in this video!

[@zisforzzu]

CGP grey’s videos are like math classes. the moment you phase out for just a second, you miss 19384839 pieces of important information.

[@lavendersugar143]

Oh, I didn't know you actually had a proper team now. Good for you! I remember a video you made ages ago about how you couldn't POSSIBLY employ someone to help you with these, but that kind of mentality puts such a major strain on a person. Glad you're getting some other hands involved, especially with the insane amount of work that these videos need.

[@JackHaarriiss]

Grey is the one person who could say “I’m a perfectionist” un-ironically when asked for a weakness in an interview.

[@TheLPcollector]

im sure that applies to his strong points as well Interviewer: what are your strengths? Grey: I'm a perfectionist Interviewer: and what are your weaknesses? Gray: I'm a perfectionist Interviewer:....

[@GabrielShitposting]

@@TheLPcollector it really is a double edged sword. You work to the best of your capacities and then some. But, you work to the best of your capacities and then some. Which usually means delays and excessive amounts of corrections and modifications, refactoring, making things more efficient and so on. Or at least that's how it is in CS.

[@TROPtastic]

Well yes, but actually no. He has made bigger errors in past videos that have gone uncorrected, like the "True Cost of the Royals" video

[@michaelgreen1515]

@@TROPtastic We all err.

[@JennyMorash]

New to the channel, but I wanted to comment on this one. It isn't never being wrong that earns my respect, but a willingness to admit and talk about it when someone realizes they were wrong.

[@zorzevic]

Man, you absolutely rock. As a researcher, I'm really impressed about how you manage to produce amazing quality content, yet even go the extra mile to admit errors when you make some. That's one of the basics of our job (would really love a vid about popper BTW), but we are all human and let's say that not all of us manage to do it even part of the time. If anything, it just confirms how your channel is top tier quality and how even though I'd really love to get more vids from you guys, your dedication to long, serious and due research is at the core of your consideration. Doesn't take must to tell people you're right, takes huge ones to admit you've been wrong. Kuddos from France.

[@heretustay]

Lol, “Wendover Airfield” So that’s why he’s always talking about planes

[@RusteyGuy]

As soon as Grey said it I was like, "wait, what?"

[@fran13r]

That channel is soooooo good. I now know so much random crap thanks to it.

[@thelibby21]

I had to pause the video and check the comments to see if anyone else had noticed!

[@JanRademan]

Two nouns when put together is about half an interesting as being apart.

[@RagaarAshnod]

Wendover Productions for the unaware.

[@hibernate44]

““If I had more time, I’d have written a shorter letter” -CPG Grey” - Michael Scott

[@SylvEdu]

"““If I had more time, I’d have written a shorter letter” -CPG Grey” - Michael Scott" - Jorge Goias

[@Hangman1313]

- Wayne Gretzky

[@alexcereuceta5907]

“”””If I had more time, I’d have written a shorter letter” -CGO Grey” - Michael Scott” - Jorge Goias” - Azariah

[@slolilols]

"""""If I had more time, I'd have written a shorter letter."-CGP Grey"-Michael Scott"-George Goias"-Azariah"-Alex Cereuceta

[@Callordin]

""""""""".........""""""""" - some educated fool on the interwebs

[@briansmobile1]

I know your pain! And more than anything, I admire your efforts.

[@justinzhang9084]

they are to be admired

[@Casutama]

This is my favourite video of yours. I love them all, but this takes the cake every time; I keep coming back to it.

[@stephenflint3640]

God bless whatever teammate of Greys editing team has been immortalized as a crayon munching drone at 2:45

[@spooki-2451]

as a person who's really into making animations , i see that as an amazing way to be immortalised .

[@lukegerhard]

Ok, but if you watch the next 30 seconds, you realize that it's the animator. They chose their own fate 😆

[@games1004]

Luke Gerhard It’s funny that they put that little “easter egg” in there. Light-hearted self-directed jokes like that are funny. ... ... I like the animation style, animator! ;-)

[@dkaloger5720]

And 5:42

[@subscribetomefornoreason7294]

“The cost of perfection is infinite” holy shit that’s a good quote

[@ICEknightnine]

unless you have really low standards...

[@fmga]

Also “ if I had more time I would have written a shorter letter

[@steveheist6426]

@@ICEknightnine Well no. "Having low standards" means you're more willing to compromise on things. Not that perfection is somehow a finite... Thing.

[@FalbertForester]

That's something that the head of the college at engineering at the university I attended made clear. In engineering, there's rarely a "perfect" answer - and it's often very very expensive to get that answer. Sometimes what you have to do is create a "good enough" answer - then throw in a large safety factor, just in case.

[@richjhart]

It's good, but it's not perfect

[@karladelaoserrano612]

Grey managed to exemplify with the creative process of a KZbin video my fear of starting a doctoral thesis. Thank you for your dedication and hard work, Sir!

[@mattkelly2004]

I have a whole new respect for your videos now, had no idea so much went into final product.

[@Koliflower]

This man holds himself to such a high standard. Everyone, please go watch the newly revised video so grey doesn't get screwed by the algorithm.

[@matthewstuckenbruck5834]

Also, something like half of it is different. It's an interesting watch, even if you've already seen the first video.

[@ripred42]

Yeah, I dont think you have to worry about a channel with over 4 million subscribers getting screwed by the algorithm.

[@TAOEXPRESS]

@@ripred42 That doesn't mean that a video can't get a _really_ low amount of views, sometimes that happens.

[@jiminybb]

@@TAOEXPRESS He makes 45k a month on Patreon alone, I don't think view count is such a big factor for him.

[@TAOEXPRESS]

@@jiminybb Yeah, but it's not about the money. If _you_ made something that you worked on, for weeks, months, something you put your heart into, if it then just got 50k views? When you have 4 million subs? And if you only care about money, then, less views, less new people, less people wanting to donate to you on Patreon, less _money._

[@aloe.0v0]

Why we love CGP Grey: He makes a 20 minute video instead of simply pinning a comment with the heading "MISTAKES:"

[@daosmw2]

"That would require a lot of time" -Edison

[@bm1747]

A 20 minute video... with new custom animation.

[@ethanomcbride]

Honest to god his hyperactive OCD be worse than mine 😂

[@pentilex4338]

I don't think there's anything wrong with that either

[@abataaoigami6715]

@@ethanomcbride I think we've instantly become friends. Should I bring out the Ceremonial Measuring Equipment?

[@josephjackson1956]

The thing I appreciate most about your videos is that you actually do lots of research to make things work, and it really shows in how well the videos come out. I would never be able to do even a fraction of what you do!

[@naturally_rob]

I would absolutely love a video from you that dives into the "what is truth" and "how do we know what is truth"

[@dumpnchase]

My grandfather used to tell me “Everyone else’s job is easy”.

[@KingSlimjeezy]

Goddamn this elder knowledge hittin hard today

[@dabsol9137]

KingSlimjeezy it really do be hittin hard

[@ivannierez7731]

Damn right!. Mine also used to say, "they need to pay you because the job sucks"

[@MahDryBread]

This is why you're the best, Grey. You genuinely care about telling us accurate information and if you ended up getting something wrong, you explain the why's, how's, and most importantly you tell us the corrections. You've earned your reputation as one of the best!

[@Oshawott315]

Comments are good for the KZbin algorithm!

[@SolidusSheep]

Which fossil did you take?

[@jonaseggen2230]

Also Grey could have made a video about the most covered topic of them all on YT and still get loads of views because his views, ways of presenting and end products is up there among the best in the YT-iverse. In another time he would surely have been abducted by the goods.

[@connorjohnson7849]

Which fossil did you choose?

[@brianz7672]

*insert some spiel about the KZbin algorithm*

[@nanimo573]

This is one of my favourite videos, I rewatch it a lot. Admitting mistakes is very hard and I am astonished on how well you are handling it

[@wishingb5859]

What I like about your videos is that you have helped my brain. I used to get perfect scores on logic tests when I took logic tests. But the pursuit of perfect logic started to pull my brain into pieces. Ended up with a mental breakdown. But now I can come out of the breakdown and examine every paradox an just smile and let them all exist and they don't have to always war with each other, even if politics and nutritionists and philosophers think they need to. I can let them do the wrestling over there in their own brains.

[@muturaman3880]

Grey being a former teacher has a higher standard for his lessons and presentations. I feel like we're all his students

[@Snarethedrummer]

We are.

[@cedarsapling]

And yet this video was made because one of us had something to teach him. He really sees education both ways and I think that's a wonderful thing.

[@muturaman3880]

@@cedarsapling absolutely, I agree

[@gordonramsay6160]

1:06 Using a fractal to symbolize the project is brilliant Because if you look close enough it’s never ending

[@lucasriddle3431]

KZbin compression is a bitch tho. (I like to imagine Grey's inbuilt processor is powerful enough to render a fractal at full definition - i.e. infinite)

[@usernamethenamed]

@@lucasriddle3431 uh you click the three dots on the side and go to "edit"

[@lucasriddle3431]

@@usernamethenamed Wow I am dumb. Thank you for your help.

[@nintenprox4639]

Internet rabbitholes are cool to read about. You read something, then something else, and boom, you're 30 webpages and 2 webarchives deep into the topic

[@henryfdc]

Well. I think we found thodd1souts personal account.

[@jonathanwine4235]

Can we take a moment to appreciate how beautiful the fractals of knowledge are in Grey’s videos? The rainbow spirals and paths through the “forest” are *chef’s kiss* wonderful

[@gumby600]

Of all the CGP Grey videos I've watched over the years, this is one of my top favourites. Recently, I tried to light a gas fireplace that had been dormant for months. The "automatic" lighting instructions didn't seem to work. Days later I re-read the manual and discovered I had skipped over the instruction that it must be switched to "manual" mode to light when the thermocouple is cold. Only spent the whole afternoon on it!

[@Psytinker]

Spoiler Alert: hootis8 is the really mean owl

[@GeanAmiraku]

It does have "hoot" in it their nickname basically means "the hoot is infinity"

[@yumi3700]

This needs to be top comment

[@michaeljohnson905]

And owls are generally symbolized as intelligent and prideful HMMMMMMMM

[@PCspray]

@@GeanAmiraku and the cost of perfection is infinite. Therefore, the cost of perfection is the hoot

[@VekTorBK]

@@PCspray So, you're saying it all loops back on itself... like a circle, but with a twi... [ Eyes get big as saucers ] [ FRIDGE BRILLIANCE INTENSIFIES ] Ohhh... You MAGNIFICENT bastard! You have my sword.

[@captc502]

"How do we know ANYTHING is true?" Hits too hard.

[@eavyeavy2864]

Or you watch too many Matrix

[@cleoking6312]

Which is why we forget about it and move on, it is a very dangerous mind germ

[@sdrawkcab_emanresu]

@@cleoking6312 Even if we arent real, that doesnt change anything. What is "real" its just a description of the things we call "real" so as long we ceep calling things real, they are, because we define them to be

[@cleoking6312]

@@sdrawkcab_emanresu i agree 100%. We are real, my feelings are real, my experiences are real, but to those who are afraid of this thought germ tend to let fear cloud their judgement. It isnt very surprising considering irational fears dictate most peoples lives, mine included with my fear of heights. To me that fear that nothing we know is real is just as irational as my complete hate for anything involving heights no matter how safe it is.

[@viviblue7277]

The better question that you actually want to ask is “what should it take for me to believe something?” Then try to be consistent.

[@jcrsh1638]

I am simply amazed at the amount of work that goes into productions such as yours! That's why I always have your channel pinned, so I can go and get a breath of fresh air and truth-all in one place...You are the best-and the love you have for doing these high quality videos always shines thru-even before the content starts. Thank you ✨

[@CriticallyGnart]

"If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter" -Verbosius

[@izzy1221]

Holy moly I didn’t realise how much work went into a single video.

[@Endeva09]

Meanwhile at 5 minute crafts...

[@pappapaps]

@@Endeva09 "20 life hacks: #1. Hot-glue the trigger on your gun, save time on triggering"

[@elleonagamingquest]

@Izzy I didn't either, until I decided to start making simple gaming videos. It turned out I'd spend at least 2-3 hours to make 10 minute video. I cannot imagine how much time it takes to make a CGP Grey video.

[@DoctorX17]

@@elleonagamingquest God, tell me about it... Unless you just record and upload with a minimum of cuts, it does take forever. I've done 5 minute videos that took 10 minutes to record and 4 hours to edit!

[@elleonagamingquest]

@@DoctorX17 right?!

[@ZephImmortal]

I think this comment will get buried, but I'd like to say it anyway: Most of the information about Tekoi, including proposals from Hercules itself, are available via Utah's public records system. Utah uses a system named "GRAMA" on top of the Freedom of Information Act, and as such any of the state government can be issued a GRAMA request for any of their records. I was able to immediately find a PDF detailing the proposal for testing rockets (in which it actually explicitly names Tridents) at the Tekoi site. I know there's a point to stop researching, but a lot of information for these programs is retained at a state level, so it's something good to at least think about especially in the future for any "topic for another time" videos. :)

[@drdoominstien713]

I hope grey sees this

[@frenchblue3211]

+

[@Dantakurai]

^

[@tylerphuoc2653]

+

[@EltonSilvaJesus]

+

[@briantrovilion909]

i like and love that you released an update to this i will be watching pretty much all of your videos i know this doesn't change the hit you take from releasing a video but it gained you my viewership keep it u

[@holycrocs3670]

Love the use of fractals to represent the complexity of the topic hahah (i only know what they are because i had to do a mini essay on them in college and now i see them dotted around the world everywhere, like little easter eggs)

[@SapereAude1490]

"Violently disagree" Didn't hear that since Yes, Prime Minister.

[@jtgd]

“Yes Prime Minister”. Didn’t hear that since “yes Chef”

[@arieldahl]

Sapere, have you heard of current events in Belarus?

[@Nadia1989]

I hear that daily, especially now.

[@vxi441]

Ah, Prime Minister... It is characteristic of all committee discussions and decisions that every member has a vivid recollection of them and that every member's recollection of them differs violently from every other member's recollection. Consequently we accept the convention that the official decisions are those and only those which have officially recorded in the minutes by the officials, from which it emerges with an elegant inevitability that any decision which has been officially reached will have been officially recorded in the minutes by the officials and any decision which is not recorded in the minutes has not been officially reached even if one or more members believe they can recollect it, so in this particular case if the decision had been officially reached it would have been officially recorded in the minutes by the officials. And it isn't so it wasn't.

[@SapereAude1490]

@@vxi441 Ah shit, it's "differs violently". It's even better than I thought. Also "from which it emerges with an elegant inevitability"

[@YukeWeiss]

The best part is Grey chiding himself for saying "story for another time" because he knows some pedant is keeping track of how many stories are due.

[@MrA2intl]

Please post this list, pedant

[@YukeWeiss]

I don't have it!

[@aloevera3317]

Some pedant: Write that down! Write that down!

[@Robstafarian]

Some of us (pedants) understand and respect boundaries.

[@wadezabel5306]

I'm still waiting on the free will video after all these years

[@duclong95]

“If I had more time, I would have written a shorter letter.” -Sun Tzu

[@justinlohuis]

thanks for all the learning, your channel is truly wonderful

[@Termsofseve]

CGP Grey: Makes mistake, goes into depression, gets back up to investigate his mistake and learns from it Me: Makes mistake, goes into depression, *that’s it*

[@surrealdynamics4077]

This is the difference between us, mere mortals, and, oh so great, Mr. Grey!

[@badlydrawnturtle8484]

Me: worries about potentially making a mistake, skips straight to the depression without getting a chance to actually make the mistake.

[@dsurge8758]

@@badlydrawnturtle8484 This is your mistake.

[@AndyZach]

Me, a perpetual optimist: "I'll never make a mistake!" Tries something new, makes a mistake. "Oh, I'll fix it. I sure won't make that one again." Go back to step 1.

[@Seegtease]

Me: *makes mistake* "Oops haha"

[@Sly-Jack]

"If I had more time I would have written a shorter letter" 0:04 - Mark Twain 8:00 - Abe Lincoln 17:39 - Blaise Pascal Beware: A google search for this quote may quickly suck you into the "What is true?" dimension.

[@daisystacey6637]

I was wondering why he kept repeating the quote! I thought it was just for emphasis but completely missed the different authors...

[@shorty430551]

That's a great piece of comedy Grey has woven into this "apology" "explanation of failure" either way I had a good laugh.