Your Social Security Card is Insecure

[@jovanweismiller7114]

A funny story. I was born in 1947. I got my SS card in 1965 when I started working. One day, years later, I was working in a shop that asked for SSANs on checks. A fellow came in, wrote a check, and when I asked for his SSAN, it was one digit off mine. He'd gotten his in the same office, the same day I got mine.

[@kopioshu]

Cool

[@Mason_8r]

what are the chances of that??

[@EEEEEEEE]

E‎ ‎

[@meatdelivery4087]

@@Mason_8r small but not improbable, the best kind of chances

[@mariox204]

@@Mason_8r doesnt seems like a 80 years old guy so VERY small

[@Zerbey]

The fun part was when I fist immigrated to the USA and being denied a loan because they said my SSN was only a few months old so I didn't qualify. I had to then go through a whole silly process of proving I was an adult.

[@arseface2k934]

now, before we give you this loan, are you SURE you're not an infant?

[@nylajereb4523]

Banker: ok you want loan? You: yes Banker: how do i know your not 3 kids in a trenchcoat?!

[@flamingfoxx]

"Hi I'm an adult can I have money please" "Idk man this says you're three months old"

[@unoriginalname1]

I mean, your KZbin account is only 13 years old, so your only 13 right? Im just an infant who’s 2.

[@ambi_cc8464]

Whoa hold on, we have no evidence that up to this point you haven’t been a minor because your record has only been made a few months ago, we can’t have infants getting loans can we? Lol

[@vlogbrothers]

The United States: A nation with a national ID card that isn't a national ID card, and a public health care system that isn't a public health care system. Great video! -John

[@tobehonest7457]

vlogbrothers HIIIIIIIII JOHNNNN

[@a.t.1011]

vlogbrothers JOHN

[@RhythmAssistedPoetry]

.... :(

[@sjoerdwennekes]

+

[@OALXI]

Hi John! :D

[@TheHouseOfWaffles]

My university used to use the SSN as the primary student ID number -- instead of generating a random number or simply using a sequential index. My university has also always had a _lot_ of foreign students, who did not have SSNs, so fake SSNs were generated and assigned to them. Of course it wasn't long before new students with real SSNs experienced conflicts with fake SSNs already in the database. I think it was the mid-2000-oughts when my university finally switched to generated student ID numbers.

[@christopherleblanc160]

Did you by chance go to the University of Michigan? Because this sounds a lot like the University of Michigan.

[@TheHouseOfWaffles]

@@christopherleblanc160 Nope, I attended in the Western states.

[@microwavegum]

My community college use to use SSN a log in for students, but then there was a data leak. They changed it to passwords and usernames now.

[@xopasstheaux6617]

Yeah doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do but guess data leaks weren't as big a deal then

[@russellaustin4988]

Kind of proves that the leaders of the higher learning institute that you went to may not have been the smartest people. Didn't raise a bell? Well you were taught by them.

[@TheSecondVersion]

"There is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution." - Russian proverb

[@strikerorwell9232]

+Vito C In the UK my social security number was promised to NOT reveal any personal facts! In Sweden I have 73-08-29 0514? Its the year 1973 I was born, the month 08, the day I was born 29 th, the time 0514 in the morning? However the Swedish authorities doesnt harass their citizens and most Political decisions/discussions is open information for the people! The Swedes all together demanded the fluoride banned from their drinking water? Within a year they took it away! Despite politicians in the EU parliament refusing to let the Swedes drink their spring water tapped without poison! Now they demanded the GMO food banned from the Swedish food market!

[@EpicScizor]

Which is why gaffer tape is popular.

[@PK-xe6sm]

@Striker Orwell You, my friend, need to consult a doctor :-/

[@strikerorwell9232]

+P K To be called insane in a world of madness is a compliment. However those who knows me and read the comment above will notice its my usual sarcasm. Do you think our psychopathic leaders are sane by the way?

[@PK-xe6sm]

It depends on your definition of sanity, I'm afraid :-) Ok, sometimes they could be less stupid, but that cannot be helped because statistics. Somebody has to be on the left of the Gauss curve in most social groups and politics is no exception. Apart from that, they couldn't be possibly any different than they are now.

[@WindStreak_]

3:12 love how landlords are represented by someone who's angry. No other defining features, they're just angry at you

[@henryg.8762]

bold of you to assume that my library card is less important than my social security card

[@haph2087]

knowledge is very important.

[@danielvaldez9946]

As a fellow introvert, I concur

[@bahjamohamed6499]

Daniel Valdez agreed

[@hsmacaraig]

*yes.*

[@scottvelez3154]

Facts

[@rustythecrown9317]

''We don't want no national card to track us , dammit'' , they're going to be pissed when they hear about phones , credit cards , bank cards etc.

[@chaseowens6734]

Ah yes, the opposite of Joe Exotic, Joe Generic

[@grayk02]

His straight laced, rule abiding, completely non-tiger owning alter-ego

[@OrangeC7]

[@Cybernaut551]

@@OrangeC7Me: Joe You: Joe who? Me: Joeboma ^_^

[@kinger8471]

And right in between: Joe uncommon

[@bodaciousdoggo8971]

Joesph Generic

[@CoreySmith1200]

Somewhere Joe Generic is wondering why his identity is being used 24/7

[@BeterDefeter]

@Bryan BD how much

[@lanascunt]

@Bryan BD I love doing illegal activities wanna discuss fun illegal activities we do? You first.

[@bob8819]

Juan i click on accept to all terms and conditions to sign up for a Disney newsletter without actually reading the terms and conditions 😎

[@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75]

@@lanascunt I logged on to roblox without my parents permission

[@tiouklef]

That SSN belonged to the secretary of the VP of a wallet manufacturing company. www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/misused.html

[@militustoica]

Until recently, SSNs also served as military service numbers for everyone in the US Armed Forces. I wish that had never been the case. Myself and many people I know ended up giving ours out so constantly and casually that tens of thousands or more a year had their identities stolen.

[@ThisisFerrariKhan]

Don’t forget we got our information stolen TWICE. I got the letter in the mail two years straight from two different incidents during the time from 2014 to 2016.

[@bane4743]

Ohh I see you got the letter as well too.

[@RestoVette]

We still do this, I be giving my last 4 over the phone every time I need to schedule anything or receive any medical info 🙄

[@sirclarkmarz]

it would be so much more efficient if we all just took the mark of the beast

[@rottie615]

Yep, I lost my dog tags with my SSN on them 😖

[@Connorthecatsdad]

This makes me want to get a social insecurity card to show to people to let them know that sometimes I get anxious in crowds and conversations

[@Azul_247]

it would just be the same numbers, backwords

[@NetScourge]

No joke I was able to guess my sister's SSN because of this video lol. We were born a minute apart in the same hospital

[@DencitesOp]

what was it?

[@laquoia]

@@DencitesOp yeah and also whats your credit card number

[@slayd3378]

Oh boy, it's extortion time.

[@paperempire2655]

@@Asutoro we need the expiration date also

[@MasterGX]

Oh boy….

[@sofiacontreras5930]

I recently tried getting a driver's permit (in Ohio). I brought in my passport, state ID (CA state ID), and proof of Ohio residency. I wasn't able to get that driver's permit, though, because I needed my social security card. I was able to apply for a replacement card online and got the card a few days ago. It is literally just a slip of paper. Not even cardboard. Why is this slip of paper considered such an important piece of identification when it isn't supposed to be one and isn't able to do that job well! Ugh.

[@jmanko]

W2 form would have worked also instead of the social security card. That's what I used for my license because my social security card is laminated and the DMV wouldn't take it. But you had a passport already meaning you didn't need the new TSA approved license. You can use your passport to get through the TSA checkpoint when you fly.

[@CristianCiupitu]

@ukkr what's the problem with "REAL ID"?

[@snowshoe3274]

@ukkr you do realize that most countries already have IDs with secure numbers for their citizens, right?

[@mainwayne1352]

Five years ago when I went to renew my drivers license in Colorado. They would not accept my drivers license as a form of ID. I needed to come back the next day with a piece of mail that was addressed to me. My drivers license was accepted everywhere, except the place that issued it.

[@kristyann9912]

@@mainwayne1352 😂😂😂😂😂Unbelievable!!!

[@youngmasterzhi]

(Un)fun fact: When Social Security was first introduced, some people would tattoo their social security numbers on their skin, fearing that they would end up forgeting it

[@happyfacefries]

@@nicolefischer1504 he didn't ask either

[@vulpes7079]

Imagine hooking up with someone and now they have your SSN

[@whatthefridge1o1]

Mood

[@chanceadams5157]

I’m so confused about these comments ⬆️

[@edenmictlan]

@@chanceadams5157 Same

[@michaeladkins6]

I remember signing up at a temporary employment agency. They wanted the social security number for identification and didnt think twice about reading the number off out loud in a crowded room to get your attention that they were ready for an interview.

[@rydaguy_1]

i don’t know why i found this so funny but i nearly died at “You got a John Smith?” “Go Fish.”

[@thelocalnecromancer1224]

Uh... help. I don't get it.

[@ikatulo_yt]

@@thelocalnecromancer1224 I'm guessing cause John/Jim Smith are Insanely common names and Go Fish is a game where you match cards?

[@davidqharmon7311]

@@thelocalnecromancer1224 brainlet

[@mariox204]

@@ikatulo_yt if you want a create a story and include an US person need to incluse one john or one smith

[@Oneamongthelegion]

You called?

[@anotheraggieburneraccount]

So basically, we have the absolute worst system for identification possible. Got it.

[@barackobama5530]

actually, most countries in africa have the worst system. If youre born, the government wont even know

[@fuzzX]

@@barackobama5530 are you really compering america to african shithole countires?

[@CharalamposKoundourakis]

@@fuzzX I mean the USA is quite the shit hole at places.

[@anthonyc4138]

@Joaquín yep

[@anthonyc4138]

@@barackobama5530 that's false

[@konakg8174]

"You can always depend on Americans to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other options"

[@seanshin1615]

Winston Churchill

[@temporarychannelname8620]

@@seanshin1615 Ehhhh.... Not true. Theres no record of him saying the quote.

[@robertlaube574]

Replace "americans" with "any person, anywhere" and you wouldn't be totally full of shit.

[@tortex1]

@@strangelyukrainian7314 There are people who would say anything can be solved by explosives. Just saying.

[@kaleidoscope5054]

@PotatoTornado whoa, smart

[@ICantEven2It]

You gotta love America, the land of taking the worst possible route to achieve virtually the same goal.

[@EINSTEINIUMEPICNESS]

Can I point out that the number Grey used for Joe Generic is a valid number issued in New York between 1936 and 1950

[@Mr__Joe]

Oh my!

[@lucabrandalesi6743]

Yeah that explains wtf is going on with this system. And I'm still not sure why Americans don't want an identification card like every first world country

[@suprtroopr1028]

@@lucabrandalesi6743 I don't understand it either. The only thing I could think people could find issue with would be the manor of information that could be attached to that one card. Granted, thats literally what already happens with your SSN... stubbornness? Im going to go with stubbornness.

[@blobfishchin]

@@ordinarychef we don't even care anymore, but apparently we still do

[@Lambda_Ovine]

He kind of doxed somebody.

[@nfistfu]

Wait... America doesn't have a national identity card? And they use their superannuation number, printed on an regular piece of cardboard, with no picture, or address, or date of birth, or anything on it, as identification???... I have no words...

[@Nikole_Raven]

A passport / passport can be uaed as national ID.

[@Ptcruz]

@@Nikole_Raven Not everyone have a passport. Especially in the USA.

[@top_hat_walrus1860]

Only picture ID is driver license, state ID, passport and other licenses

[@joaobaptista320]

*laughs in European civilization*

[@Ptcruz]

@@joaobaptista320 Laughs in most countries on Earth

[@bonnie.f]

Fun fact- I didn't get a SSN until I was 3, when my little brother was born, and my parents got our numbers at the same time, so his number is the one directly after mine. Kinda fun knowing someone else's birthday and SSN....

[@rachele3334]

I had a co-worker that we found out was born a few days after my husband at the same hospital, so their social security numbers are only a few numbers off. Sometimes I would ask her what his number was when I needed to fill something out cause I can never remember his!

[@InsertName69]

My dad has the same situation, except there was no twin and they’re a year apart.

[@briabree7683]

@@rachele3334 you really having people who isn't family have that kind of access to your HUSBAND'S SSN number? Crazy..

[@colgatemodel18]

This exact same thing happened with my dad, his brother and sister

[@saintjames8018]

My brother and I received ours at 16 and we are exactly 1 number apart. :)

[@piccolo54trunks2]

Fun fact: if you're a twin like me, your social security numbers are most likely one digit apart. Not so fun fact: this causes a lot of problems involving your SSN because they're not so easy to identify apparently. True story: my twin had insurance quotes that soared to the thousands. When he called the company, it was because they believed my twin and I were the same person (so all our traffic infractions added up together); they were only able to separate us based on our drivers' ID. I also got a call from a credit card company, saying that I had a pending balance when it was clearly my twin's account because I, myself, did not have a credit card. So yeah, the SSN system sucks for us

[@randomfella8448]

I knew a pair of twins that had a similar story involving the Fasfa (financial aid).

[@alden9086]

I can confirm this. My SSN and my twin's SSN is one digit off. Its kind of funny because my brother did not know his SSN off the top of his head, so my parents used to ask me for his SSN when we were younger. Or when he forgot his SSN.

[@WyvernYT]

It's not just twins. My sister's SSN is one off from mine, because when we were teenagers our mother realized she needed to do the paperwork and applied for both of us at the same time.

[@Oxidization00]

"they just need your time and location of birth" hey is that what all those astrology sites ask for? haha............. 😦

[@solomonsodipe6669]

Oxidization00 damn lol

[@janinerodriguez4893]

Corey Playz 😂

[@joned1000]

Corey Playz you mean a myth

[@pkcat1]

@Slumerican Mystik i don't believe in astrology but i just wanna clarify that zodiac signs arent based off of the months exactly lol. take aries, which starts around the 20th of march and extends halfway into april

[@ComradeHellas]

ROFL

[@LukeeM_00]

In Ireland we have passports, passport cards, drivers license but not really a identity card, when proving I’m 18 at pubs and nightclubs I always use my out of date passport (even tho I was about 9 in it ) always gets a laugh from the bouncers which helps get in

[@oz_jones]

Same thing in America - no NATIONAL id cards

[@Larsino2000]

Passport card and drivers license are both ID cards.

[@Nexus9118]

@@Larsino2000 He is taking about national ID card.

[@Larsino2000]

@@Nexus9118 you need to learn that a passport, passport card and drivers lucense are all a form of ID and are all supplied by your goverment on a national level. All 3 are a national ID. A passport is not a ID card but more a ID book because its not a card.

[@Abi-bi6cb]

​@@Larsino2000 yes but there isn't a single national ID system. Passports are issued by the embassy and vary depending on your nationality, whilst driving licences are issued by a separate agency and not everyone has one. Same in the UK too.

[@bmobmo6438]

A national number for a people that doesn't want one, on an id card that fails at id, given to everyone, except when it isn't, for a program that's universal, except when it's not. That sums this thing up pretty well.

[@KryptKicker5]

Such is the nature of government.

[@meferswift]

@@KryptKicker5 *USA and some extra.

[@curtmacquarrie]

@@KryptKicker5 Such is the nature of the US government you mean. Nobody else has this issue.

[@sebastianjost]

@@curtmacquarrie there are always exceptions in the real world. The US's social security numbers just are a particularly bad example.

[@rexpigott2406]

Get on line to get replacement social security car

[@janejan9728]

When I applied for unemployment at one point, the unemployment office already had someone using my number. They casually mentioned this to me, before telling me not to worry about it. They approved my unemployment shortly thereafter.

[@marissaa8734]

"There are security reasons you shouldn't... YOINK"

[@rev_dude]

2:16 You're welcome Mic drop Mic catch because mics are expensive

[@bananya6020]

Rev_dude not really compared to other stuff; software costs way more

[@TheSpecialJ11]

Hey, I like that color

[@liuner2479]

Electroblade that's why they invented "Cracks"

[@donovanb8247]

Electroblade yeah but I wouldn't drop pro tools either.

[@O1993-f8u]

This is what I love about this channel. His videos have so much information in such a short video. And he covers topics I never would have thought to research.

[@RespawnRestricted]

In all my years I never remember a national ID card ever being a hot topic in any political campaign

[@dcarbs2979]

It has been in UK. The idea was proposed and heavily rejected under Gordon Brown but kept cropping up for a short time around his election.

[@jixer1956]

@@dcarbs2979 Do Brits not already have one?

[@dcarbs2979]

@@jixer1956 Not one single centralised one, no. Many forms are accepted as ID (driving license, passport, bank card with some photo ID, bus pass, student pass, and a type of voluntary ID card). The latter is mostly for teenagers that want to have none of the above and used for alcohol and club entry. We also have the equivalent card (National Insurance / NI card) that simply has our number on it, but is not allowed for ID as it has no government issued photo. The number stays with you for life and identifies your tax, benefit and pay status to the government. While it is important, it is not as much of a security risk as it is always used in conjunction with one of the other ID's. Nor do you ever *need* the physical card, as the number is cross-referenced on the government databases. I used it in a finance company to identify otherwise similar individuals (2 John Smiths with the same birthday, for example).

[@Gilbert-Pog]

It's more known as a Voter ID or something similar

[@DerpyDaringDitzyDoo]

Well that's because most of the time they just call it a "Voter's ID". Which is literally just, an ID that proves you're a US citizen. It would have a photo of you, a unique number, and only be given to those who can prove their citizenship. It literally would just be a national ID card, something to prove that you are you. But, because politics, they always frame it has having to do with voting. Most of the people I know that are against it is because it would have this unique number, therefore making your votes much easier to track, and therefore potentially undermining the right to have your vote be private. It come sup pretty much every presidential election, they just don't talk about it between terms because it doesn't benefit the politics and would cost a lot of money to start a program like that.

[@TheRighanRed]

And with this video, grey has reached his upload quota for the entire year.

[@Fragica0Because]

I mean he does have a life, plus having high personal standards which all his videos must live up.

[@Rose_Harmonic]

lol

[@shawn5346]

I forgot who he was, I thought this was Casually Explained.

[@AbudBakri]

And that's where I come in...

[@theamhway]

Ikr... And look, already a million views... No one even unsubs...

[@leirawhitehart1236]

You know, I always wondered what social security cards were for and why they were so important, because honestly, I don't think my mom knows. She just always told me that it was important, but never why. And school sure as heck didn't teach me what it is, what it is for, or why it is so important, so, here I am. Learning about something so important on KZbin, like it's a fun fact.

[@maximsarmanov]

they are not important. Only the number is.

[@stayswervin554]

It’s a tax identification number that your parents volunteered knowingly or unknowingly.

[@loganwidener4811]

I'm a adult and I didn't know School failed me

[@bpierce2100]

Ahhhh I see my that bi-annual edition of CGP Grey content has arrived

[@FactHubREAL]

Ikr I thought he was dead lol

[@colormorado1699]

FactHub deseo

[@Brydude87]

this is very confusing( which no wonder I saw this video too much) and I finally know why my social security is important

[@fuckoff7459]

FactHub no but you getting closer

[@musicalofethics]

omg

[@JadeLockpicker]

having had family lose their _full_ SSN in a security breach _of_ a government institution, can we _please_ get a better system for this in place? because, more infuriating then all of the above? having your number _literally stolen_ is not a reason for Social Security Administration to assign you a new one. Stop and read that a few times. Now think about what happens if any other card with a number used to ID you gets looted in your life. _yeah_

[@mateuszweyna7309]

I don't understand why Americans don't have any real id? Like what is the reason?

[@sander9951]

@@mateuszweyna7309because freedom

[@AbudBakri]

Social Security doesn't make me very feel very secure...or very social for that matter.

[@JJRicks]

Dr.StickFigure you again

[@neilisbored2177]

And it definitely doesn't make me feel number.

[@VoodooV1]

That's probably something you should see a shrink about. Don't blame the gov't for your problems.

[@hoseadavit3422]

Kinda like the Holy Roman Empire

[@RoryRose_]

But does it make you feel card?

[@trumpetperson11]

Thanks for getting me worried about something I have no control over. I definitely needed that.

[@deus_ex_machina_]

If it helps you feel any better, here are some possible doomsday scenario that could occur without warning, that you or I can do nothing about: 1. Antibiotic resistant superbugs could show up that kill millions a year, sending us back to the days where infectious diseases was the №1 cause of death, and killed 1/5 of children under five. 2. An asteroid could destroy civilization as we know it. 3. A supervolcano could erupt, blanketing huge swathes of the sky with thick ash that blocks out the sun, leading to disruption of satellite communications and global famine, since plants can't perform photosynthesis. 4. A CME (coronal mass ejection) could destroy all electronics, leading to, at least, tens of thousands of deaths of people who were on life support, and millions of deaths from people who can't heat or cool their homes. Having your identity stolen doesn't seem so bad, right?

[@100percentSNAFU]

I lamenated mine when I was about 12 years old. Fast forward about 20 years...notices "do not laminate" on card...oops.

[@muchozolf]

Steve "Do not laminate" "Not to be used as an identity card" What the hell is wrong?

[@TheRiiiight]

It's actually so in the case of getting lost the paper it's printed on will hopefully dissolve away before someone else can find it. It's basically the one security feature it has lol.

[@seanf1268]

I laminated mine too. Fuck the ss

[@seanf1268]

I hope someone steals my ID and have fun

[@flinch622]

You should lament your social security card: future payments are corrupted by unrelenting under adjustment where inflation is concerned. That's one reason energy is left out of the most common government inflation stats: it is accurate/resets on a rolling daily basis, and the program can't afford to keep up with real inflation. So not only is the recipient going to be underpaid, but you will be "means tested" to boot - that "income" [which is effectively just a refund of monies paid] will push any other money you come across into a higher tax bracket. Thank Bill Clinton for getting that snowball rolling, then thank Obama while you're at it: as the fed hit the nitrous on printing and distributing billions [mostly overseas to disguise the event, knowing that would come back to the stock market], the proposal put to congress at a time of concentrating the lions share of inflation into the stock market was to freeze COLA to ss recipients. In real dollar terms... that was a cut. Compare that to progs screaming about Newt planning on 4% increases vs. 7% when he was speaker and... at no time should a government program be considered a place of safety. In the event of a real emergency, bureaucracy stays while benefits get cut.

[@ReubenAStern]

In England we have a national security number. It's very similar. It says it's not ID on the front, but the "authorities" will use it as ID whenever it suits them.

[@ourtalechara9341]

"And the last four digits just count up in order." *Pain*

[@amaureaLua]

That's not the real problem, though. The problem is that the number is used as a *password*, where simply knowing it is taken as proof that you're that person. If it were just a label, as it was supposed to be, then it wouldn't matter that it's predictable and publicly known.

[@missm8067]

2:51 “Really? You’ve been... busy.” 😂😂😂

[@alfalafelstine1536]

Please take a moment of silence, in honour of the Great Tax Child Genocide...

[@vex6633]

As a german, the US's governmental decision are hilariously wierd. Then again, I dont know enough by own government to confidently say that we aren't doing something just as wierd sometimes

[@markmcculfor6113]

the German government has done some.... wacky stuff in the past XD jkjk I know it's not y'alls responsibility for what happened a long time ago with a different government.

[@kirisummer]

2022 Undiversified gas dependency incident

[@littlefriend123]

Your government based the majority of your energy supply on imports from Russia while being an active member in NATO.. an alliance formed entirely against Russia.. and then was shocked when Russia pulled some Russia type moves and your energy supply got kanked

[@mateuszweyna7309]

@@littlefriend123 well, so did most of Europe

[@bewitchedraven6763]

germany when they ban nuclear (they now have to dig for coal because their green energy is too expensive and unreliable)

[@jerrywigginsii2547]

It's a trust fund. The problem is, there's no trust, and there's no fund

[@rketkar5458]

Wtf is going on America

[@jerrywigginsii2547]

Same shit different day?

[@cheeze5875]

At this point social security is basicly a ponzi scheme that somehow creates an infinite amount of welfare with no changes to how much it takes in. Its why im really happy to be in that special group of railroad workers that gray mentioned. Same idea but without all the government inefficientes so i know my money will actually still be there.

[@BigDaddyWes]

So my Grandparents collecting SS checks are getting fake money?

[@jerrywigginsii2547]

Yes, on multiple levels. 1 the dollar is BS at this point. 2 that's not the money they were told they were saving. That money was gone long ago, they're getting the money I'm being told I'm saving

[@aryanb8700]

6:13 Took me a 4 years to notice that that's the logo from The Episilon Programme in GTA V

[@SnoFitzroy]

"Programme"

[@minorcomet282]

Kifflom!

[@zaferryt4987]

I Nocticed it imeatitaly

[@CoolQuokka]

Holy shit! This guy's taking Roy off the grid! This guy doesn't have a social security card for Roy!

[@latetoevolve]

We're out of off white Persians

[@Jackdarkgem22]

Never go back to the carpet store!

[@CarrieFisherman]

Damn it Morty, you only lived for 68 years!

[@zac9311]

this is what the comment section was made for. this is good stuff. stop trying to host a formal debate, thats not what its for and youre only encoraging deviciveness. gg tho quokka, made me laugh

[@camperben]

Don't thrash my Roy score man....

[@dorissaclaire]

I had no idea people didn’t used to have social security numbers since birth…it’s always seemed crazy to me you are supposed to keep track of one single piece of paper literally since birth.

[@NeverEverTM]

This sounds like that ID card i made as a kid when i was roleplaying with some kids that was made of a piece of paper and some writing with my name and age

[@error-not-found7415]

even yours made as a kid is better than the social security number system.

[@joaobaptista320]

@@error-not-found7415 He's smarter then the Congress

[@GamersOfDenmark]

3 months of checking the channel for a new video every day, finally it came!

[@zusurs]

Jonas Eegholm Ever heard of notifications..?

[@TheDrMashup]

Artūrs Savickis they dont work

[@f.j.n.9215]

Yes you can. Click the bell next to subscribe button

[@codekillerz5392]

Piet Snot ...They dont work.

[@UnbreakableRukawa]

they do, click on the bell

[@blumac9801]

Fun Fact: Don't give your social security number to Microsoft tech support.

[@stuartd9741]

Why?

[@randy4443]

Stuart D scammers. They don’t work for Microsoft

[@masonsilvers6789]

@@randy4443 thats true.

[@jeretoon8350]

Stuart D r/woooosh

[@yukiko5819]

Im not from the US so im curious. What happens if you give it to them?.

[@AwokenEntertainment]

Wow it's crazy when you find out things like this that aren't really at all what they're talked up to be..

[@littlepix101]

1:43 "despite babies' worthlessness as child laborers"

[@Pants.69]

littlepix101 * cough * BET

[@algrayson8965]

littlepix101 - Birth certificates are pawned as security for the national debt.

[@jamesrockybullin5250]

I reckon it's an Antz reference.

[@jgsh8062]

Don't put timestamps that are AFTER the quote, jesus christ

[@manioqqqq]

Said no one ever

[@a.d.t.mapping]

"Lastly, it must have existed continuously since 1950." Welp, time to go to the Time Machine.

[@SasNolan]

Say that it comes from yr grandfather and he never registered it. Then ask yr family to pretend they are all into it. And just see what happens next out of lulz.

[@BatkoNashBandera774]

ask Guy Pierce to borrow his ;)

[@a.d.t.mapping]

@@SasNolan "Hey, your grandfather looks exactly like you in this picture"

[@LurkerPlus]

@@BatkoNashBandera774 - I know the film reference you're making there, but this wouldn't work, because he's Australian :-)

[@alyssapaull2128]

"Yoink!"

[@ArgKaiser]

2:16

[@brockbanda5992]

alyssa paull I gave you the 1,000th like

[@karenhuntington9783]

Dawson Ditzler yep

[@shaangraham]

2:17

[@m7bline403]

More like Zoinks scoob

[@dijikstra8]

Such a bizarre system. In Sweden we have national ID numbers, consisting essentially of your date of birth followed by four digits, the last of which is a checksum. Finding a valid number is not very hard (they're not even secret), but also doesn't really do much, an ID number alone is not a form of identification.

[@АсенДоцински]

Am I the only one who is going to compliment the animation and voice acting quality spike and the many, many, *many* hours CGPGrey probably put into them?

[@kirkland2228]

True, but I would add that Grey has hired an animator to help him, so chances are he didn't create the animations himself (though I'm sure he did the storyboarding and then reviewed/fine-tuned the animations).

[@DrewKF]

// We've loved him lots in the past; unfortunately we now take him for granted and only have complaints to offer regarding his disappearance and lack of love for us as of late ;) If you're trying to gain kudos for a "caring about others" cause though, maybe try not undermining it all by making it about yourself, using prefixes such as "Am I, the me me me, as the only one who isn't lame like allll of you, the only one who cares about [insert issue]..." ;)

[@dennisvdk6079]

call of duty mw3...

[@MichaelTennerMT]

I would agree but he made 18 THOUSAND dollars from this video alone and still got a sponsor backing him.

[@Izandaia]

More like $3,000.

[@flaviospadavecchia5126]

In Italy we have our own version of the Social Security Number (codice fiscale), and the weird part is that there are websites than can correctly calculate your "fiscal code" if you know this person's full name, date and place of birth, and sex. All information pretty easy to retrieve. Although, we don't really use it as an ID check, because - surprise surprise - we have National IDs :') This method of creating the code does have a lot of problems, because as you can imagine there are people who have the same name and are born on the same day in the same city. When you realize someone else has the same code as you, you can request a new one, but the problem is that a lot of services have a way to match your code to your sensitive information, and if you've changed it, it won't match, thereby preventing you from using some services until someone manually fixes it :/

[@Jerry_F]

The US doesn’t need a federal ID because it has an ID for every single state, just like how you don’t need an entirely separate “EU Drivers license” to drive, the US is really just a collection of smaller countries which work together being overseen by the federal government

[@tuluppampam]

About codice fiscale, there's the last like 5 "digits" that are supposedly unique, probably to avoid the problem (and maybe for some security)

[@aidan3321]

He called the dude “Joe Generic”. He should’ve been called “Gene Eric”

[@LeglessWonder]

Was thinking Jenn Neric

[@herrscherofsweets9583]

How about "Genea Rick"

[@leeoswald668]

It's like an Easter egg everywhere Dear typical and regular John Doe

[@disembodiednarrator]

*JULY 28 INTENSIFIES*

[@jw4277]

Jean rick

[@danielponder690]

Some of this has changed to the system he describes now. Also, I was born abroad and came over aged 4, but wasn’t registered immediately upon arrival but months after coming. So observant loan underwriters do notice the discrepancy of the age of birth versus the SSN registration date

[@bertkarlsson1605]

FINALLY A CGP GREY VIDEO

[@prod.mohomid]

Bert Karlsson ikr

[@gilbertoscapini9063]

Bert Karlsson 4 months later u will writh this again

[@9uvq0ephq9p8]

(that's not a podcast)

[@bertkarlsson1605]

Дарина Рябова Well That's obviously a virus...

[@masterphoenixharp8047]

Bert Karlsson I

[@theBCEproductions]

IRS: "so you're telling me your child Thanos Squarepants isn't real?"

[@gubernamdamesse5643]

In Brazil the opposite happened. Every Brazilian state has its own ID card, with photo, signature and security features called RG (Register General). But everyone also has a tax number called CPF (Fisical Person [Tax] Register). The problem is, if you move to another state, you can get another local ID with another number, which make people having multiple IDs, a mess to identification. Over time, every government agency and banks start to use the tax number to identity everyone, once it's impossible to change, and it's nationally centralised.

[@DJBigMac209]

I'm so glad I watched until the end, because when I saw Kifflom I instantly started laughing because a handful of people are going to get the reference and the rest will now be looking on youtube "What is kifflom?". Love the great video

[@Liamman97]

Does anyone else think that’s super interesting that you can go one digit down from your social security and find who the person born in the same hospital around the same time and who they are. That would be crazy, I’ll find my soulmate.

[@TheDrsuperawsome]

Kifflom Brother Brother, always nice to see the Epsilon Program in the wild (6:21)

[@dogsofwar157]

Learning about social security cards from a KZbin video because your public school is to useless .

[@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75]

That's why you go to a school not ran by the government. The teachers at charter schools are more interesting and are more passionate at there job than 75 percent of the teachers at public schools

[@flexican5399]

Camdyn Standley you don’t need school for this, wtf? It’s just a card that now can also work as a form of ID, and you need it for retirement, anyone’s parents will tell them if they asked.

[@aellyalwardi]

Did they also not teach you the proper uses of “to” and “too”

[@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75]

@@aellyalwardi Yeah, but I guess she or he didn't listen

[@uruiamnot]

In your free time, could you please watch a KZbin video to learn how to write a sentence?

[@novacolonel5287]

Greetings from Germany, where I'm proudly looking at my current ID card, issued by the federal government, heir of a centuries-old tradition of ID cards designed to identify citizens. It's unique, coded, laminated, credit card sized, with biometric features, basic information about me and my primary place of residence, photograph and enables me to cross the border to all Schengen countries without needing a passport. :D

[@gigirauchut1882]

I, as a disillusioned American, envy you so much

[@auxilia5506]

Ah, German passports are great. I just had to apply for a new one because mine is about to expire. I´m looking forwart to finally have the function for online identification enabled. :D

[@thebravezombies]

Social security cards are flimsy pieces of paper so that when eaten, they will break down much more easily than laminated cards.

[@mindlessreader1595]

TheBraveZombies wtf

[@Karreth]

Why would you eat your social security card?

[@kg959]

Oddly, he's actually halfway correct. The card has instructions on it that say "Do not laminate" because if you lose the card, they want it to biodegrade quickly so nobody else will get a hold of it. I'm not sure eating was part of the decision making process, but it's technically correct, which is the best kind of correct.

[@thebravezombies]

They send out free ones. You can just keep eating them and getting new ones to also eat. A never ending food source.

[@orangedalmatian]

I wonder what's the nutritional value of cardboard and ink.

[@WateverWatever04]

Damn, you just giving out Joe Generic's SIN number like that? Tsk smh

[@merrittanimation7721]

WateverWatever04 I know right? Some people...

[@demonride15]

He could of changed his social.

[@jameshurley615]

How rude

[@0000-z4z]

I still didn't get, why it is such a problem, if others know your number.

[@ytu8080]

0000000 0000000 are you 2 years old? It controls your freaking life

[@ibrahim0830]

Damn that Joe Generic guy really got his social security number exposed.

[@kevindao1103]

This puts the Lifelock’s guys number look like chump change.

[@homfri111]

i remember the pain in the ass it was to get my SS card reprinted because i invalidated it by having it laminated. I thought protecting it from flood or water damage was a smart thing, SSA said other wise, and when your number card is invalid to the govt but not business you go through the pain of having a reprint, which only pisses one off more when one of the options at the time was a rigid plastic card thats just a cardboard card sandwiched between some plastic....

[@lmnop29]

I too never understood why protecting such an important and *very fragile* document is considered bad.

[@aajohnsoutube]

My college, Virginia Tech, used our ss# as our student ID. So... to use my food card, taking an exam, etc... I gave it to everyone. So did all my profs. So still today I laugh at the idea that it is important, and challenge anything requesting SS# as source of insurance or proof of identity.

[@calvinnyala9580]

Your driver license is the closest thing to being an ID card

[@donnacrumpler7921]

Years ago in the State of Virginia your driver’s license number was your SSN. I images it took a lot of crime to get that changed.

[@ghirmaym.mengesteab8673]

"hello asterisk my old friend" I think that grey just started a UN/EU meme.

[@lorrainewilliams7896]

It would make a great t-shirt.

[@janesmith7243]

Because a loophole softly creeping Left its seeds while I was sleeping

[@PeterBarnes2]

And the loophole that was planted in my laws Still remains

[@dougholck4276]

...just because... There is always, an exception.

[@asteriskthegamingstar1891]

So, CGP is old and my friend? Huh...

[@Gabowsk]

It is weird that America always lend aid on how countries' should treat their internal politics and people while also acquiring the worst systems for their own inhabitants?

[@RabbiHerschel]

It's because since the 1960s (the 1965 Immigration Act being a major landmark) the System has been dedicated to disenfranchising, diminishing, and ultimately destroying the founding-stock American people.

[@abdulrahmanchalya7873]

Not really america doesnt recomend social security or medicaid theyre trying to establish democracies.

[@ajbXYZcool]

I mean one could argue we are an expert on how to do it wrong so we can give the right suggestions

[@alexmijo]

the best system is no system a lot of the time (but not always), therefore the US is doing pretty well IMO

[@pop7292]

@@abdulrahmanchalya7873 dude you literally just proved his point

[@NarutoUzumaki-rl5yl]

The last 15 seconds are the best description of something I’ve ever heard

[@ricktcm]

3:02- All the phantom babies faded away. That one couple who put 23- Nothing Changed

[@dutchandepic1691]

GREY! You're back, thank god. Missed you so much

[@maxbogaers]

Dutch and epic search cortex or hello internet about 1 grey talking video or sounf rhing a weel

[@theearthhunter11]

I could listen to CGP Grey explain things for days.... seriously

[@WoWKoest]

I just went swimming, and now I glow!

[@Aikman94]

Who wouldn't? We love him

[@mindlessreader1595]

WoWKoest And the PR people are lying

[@Nightingale_time]

You should listen to his podcasts. They're different, but awesome!

[@snowypirate07]

Check out Hello Internet podcast if you have not already done so

[@cg0825]

We used to use our SSN as our college ID and it was printed right on there. That was the mid 1990's when the internet was just starting to become a thing. Now just about every school (I hope) has done away with that practice. The college ID's we had were basically laminated cards nothing like today and thinking back they were incredibly insecure even by that era's standards.

[@cg0825]

Jobs still ask for a social security card and driver's license when you are hired but in lieu of that you can use a US passport number. I have my card stored away somewhere I am not even sure I could tell you where it is right now.

[@WeChallenge]

Thanks CGP, Your video once again shows how old I'm getting. My 4 years younger sibling and I have sequential SS#'s, both applied for at the same time, and issued numbers on the same date. A thing that happened to many children when the IRS said only those with SS#'s could be used as dependents. Cool video.

[@Liuhuayue]

3:14 I like how angry the landlord looks. It just makes sense.

[@sjnm4944]

Spot the mistake at 0:05 where it says "Country" where it should (presumably) say "County".

[@Jackdarkgem22]

Dam how did you catch that?!?

[@sjnm4944]

I'm just very, very, very boring.

[@dumboluzz]

unwatchable >:(

[@adriennekeener]

I saw it as well

[@davidflores909]

*SJ NM* are you boring or bored?

[@Hansgame]

i found your channel yd, and binged all your videos. they are from years ago but still up to date and very well made. thank you !

[@Riverbend1752]

I've heard many people oppose national IDs because "tHeY'd GiVe ThE gOvErNmEnT aLl ThIs InFoRmAtIoN aBoUt Me" as if the government doesn't already have all that information anyway. I would love to see a national ID system because it would give some much-needed security to our identity, but neither side of the political spectrum likes the idea.

[@chawndel8279]

The reason I hear most is that it disenfranchises the poor. Same reason given for why people don't want voter id.

[@nightlight0x07cc]

I think because most people here would take the option of not being indentifiable if it was ever given as an option. Yeah the government knows all about us, but it would be cool if it didn't. Imagine if all the mattered was the money you used to pay for things and the passwords you had for private accounts and no one was allowed to link those up or know who you were, it'd be perfect ^-^

[@Nexus9118]

@@nightlight0x07cc And how is the government suppose to govern without vital data?

[@Jake-rs9nq]

@@Nexus9118 That's the thing, most people don't want to be "governed" much.

[@Nexus9118]

@@Jake-rs9nq No, no we do. Pretty sure we need them roads, schools, research fundings, utilities infrastructure, airports, public transportation, defense, etc.

[@fomerrxstudent]

6:45 I’m a railroad worker. Happily I saw us mentioned in this video as exceptions from Social Security benefits. Good video!

[@partlyawesome]

i know this is a year old, but why?

[@mitsuki2921]

In Quebec (Canada) we use our health insurance card or our driving license as an identity card since Canada don't have a national ID card too.

[@RothAnim]

Yeah, our SIN card is on plastic, but it's essentially the same thing.

[@mattm1982]

We have Social Insurance Numbers (SIN), which are pretty much the same as SSN's.

[@Rolando_Cueva]

Oui oui

[@froidesprit]

Governments like jokes here and there. I'm part of a multi-social-network roleplay, and the Intergalactic Government is filled to the brim with sarcasm. I assume that Canada is the same.

[@rjfaber1991]

Here in the Netherlands we've only had compulsory ID cards for less than two decades, but we already had Citizen Service Numbers before that...

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

2:25 The REAL reason the IRS got to use the SSN *FROM DAY ONE* more or less is that they are the ones that collect Social Security TAXES (from both employers AND employees). Therefore at least part of their usage IS in fact directly Social Security related.

[@ccricers]

1:02 Apparently, Social Security taxes are collected in Bitcoin

[@ITILII]

No they are collected in FRAUDs....Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Devices....75 Trillion in debt, no way to repay that unless hyper inflating or reducing value of the currency

[@alyburr6645]

I was born overseas and have never actually lived in America even though I'm a citizen, and I only recently discovered that I have a social security card

[@Larhless]

Wanna share

[@alyburr6645]

@@Larhless nope

[@TheCelticSeer]

The bit they missed here is when you get a Green Card or an Employment Authorization Card you also get an SSN card!!

[@Fat_Catt]

@@alyburr6645 well played

[@J.M..]

You can also get a SS card if you are a transfer student temporarily studying in the USA. But it says “not authorized to work in the United States” on it.

[@nataliaborys1554]

2:40 - Because noone expected people to lie if they were promised a discount for a bigger number...

[@adolescent3934]

yes, that's the entire joke

[@wppb50]

TBH I figure it's more a cost/benefit of "how much do we lose to phantom child tax fraud" vs "how much would it cost to send Treasury agents to every dirt farm in Bumblefuck, Nebraska to count kids."

[@josephrosati9921]

I love you. I am happy you existed before me and decided to make content on youtube in english. Please have a pleasant continuous existence.

[@philcollins5457]

Quintessentially American; slapdash, the wrong tool for the job, and we're using it anyways. Feels like home.

[@rjfaber1991]

What really makes it quintessentially US-ian is that despite not working at all like intended, if at all, it keeps being used because it so happens to be tradition and replacing it with something better inevitably triggers somebody to decry about presumed loss of liberty. That's the kind of thing that us Europeans always find so utterly baffling and simultaneously hilarious about people from the US; the tendency to cling sóó hard to your own past endeavours, even when they are immense failures, really is typical of the US and its people.

[@KETimiko]

I'd argue what you described is quintessentially Eastern-European. You'd be mindblown how many people die in one year because they do their own electric work; electricians are more myth around here. Not like i know how many people die, we don't track it where I live. Although in fairness this phenomenon is in large part due to a lack of resources (mostly financial). Where I live we have a saying that essentially means "Fuck it. Good 'nough.". We all understand it's haphazard and we're all somehow fine with that... Until it breaks and than we're pissed. What I think is quintessentially American about this is along the lines of what Robert Faber said above me. Not fully understanding an issue but being afraid of change non the less, even if the change has been implemented elsewhere and society didn't collapse (Please indulge my poetic exaggeration).

[@SeanStrain]

Winston Noble Dude, we just want you to use metric and stop being so stubborn. Literally every single American refuses to believe their country can do wrong and it's kind of scary to see how you all have this same, almost hivemind mentality.

[@HackmannT]

How is the government the number one cause of unnatural death. I feel like that applies to the US way more if you count US troops that died in combat situations. No western European government is directly responsible for deaths. Our health regulations give most European countries a better life expectancy than the US. Here we take care of all our citizens, so the government is the number one cause of preventing death.

[@volrath__]

Winston Noble, and Americans don't? Your political system and constitution are based on European governments. You give more powers to your leader than most European nations. I would love to see some actual figures backing up your claim, because having lived in America and the Europe, I can promise you, Europeans have better health and quality of life than most Americans. I mean, how many American civilians need to be shot before some sort of gun legislation is brought in?! Most people in Europe can't even own a gun, and most will only ever see one in a museum let alone have 1 for every 8 people! Also, atleast European nations have government controlled free health care. In the UK if I get ill I'm going to a FREE hospital to get FREE treatment, doesn't matter if I'm homeless or rich we are all treated equally (yes you can pay to go private but many don't bother) Americans think you live in the greatest nation on earth, while not realising that your education and health care are way behind many nations. Oh, and your government is controlled by lobbyists paid off by big corporations, but that's besides the point.

[@HennyMusgrove]

As a librarian I can confirm the truth at 5:35. We ask for photo ID and proof of residency.

[@roowut]

“so we have this really simple system that uses a set of numbers, but only works with this one thing ...” *_NATIONAL IDENTIFICATION IT IS_* “no...”

[@kingvinoda3896]

When almost every other democracy in the world has some form of citizen ID the American people are just petty.

[@xystem4701]

As an American citizen, this was actually very informative! Thanks!

[@Nightingale_time]

+ Siddharth Kansal Can you please fucking LAY OFF? The person commenting on this video had NOTHING to do with the creation of this system, and has almost no power to change it. Citizens aren't made aware of this information, and there's probably no reason to look it up. So, no, they're not idiots. Don't even try to say you were being funny, insulting someone (even on the internet) isn't funny. It's demeaning.

[@jakeroosenbloom]

Uggh why do you guys take trolls so seriously... jfc

[@xystem4701]

+irockleftsocks13405 thankyou, I agree with everything you said. +Meryl Silverburgh Please, don't just assume that we're uninformed. Some of us are, sure. But there are uninformed people in every country. Have you ever looked up the history and specifics on your country's identification card? Have you ever looked up the history and specifics of other countries' identification cards, and compared them to your own? No? Wow, what a surprise. You must be a terribly uninformed person, and should be ashamed of yourself! He's not saying that people shouldn't be informed on things like Social Security cards, he's saying that nobody would inherently assume it's a flawed system and immediately research deeply into it. Do you know how your country generates the numbers on your identification card? No? Wow! Uninformed citizen right here guys. That's essentially your entire argument here. Also, you're calling someone a "big, lazy dipshit" because he berated an internet troll. That makes SO much sense. Yeah. What a lazy thing of him to do. Especially since your imitation of him sounds as if the first comment was telling me to be politically aware, and not... a troll comment. You really need to learn how the internet works. Trolls are trolls, not people trying to send political messages.

[@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723]

I'd like to stress that it's made of paper. And it's really bad if you get it wet.

[@neuromorph]

its designed to be easily damaged/destroyed, so it cant be used if found. thats why they tell you not to laminate it.

[@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723]

neuromorph don't make it easily destroyable. It's not only a federal document, but a REALLY important federal document. What you want to do is add security features to it. Make it like a license.

[@mikelitoris8809]

Ionlymadethistoleavecomments A replacement is like $5. All you have to do is provide proof of identity.

[@Renozuken_]

And if you have no proof of identity? what do they ask for when you attempt to get one?

[@broodypie2216]

Renozuken they ask for everything, more than once, takes months, and can easily ruin years of progress

[@whamtheman]

Huh, I was worried the channel might be dead. Good to see you back!

[@mandatomchick]

whamtheman I recommend Hello Internet if you like more frequent Grey interaction.

[@phuckhugh2698]

Back with a vengeance. look they are trending at #7.

[@cleavant5078]

whamtheman you can always look at the podcast channel if they put something

[@itsblack2321]

welcome to the channel

[@itsblack2321]

Or cortex

[@johns9940]

This video made me paranoid about my identity being stolen. Thanks

[@rocyu9996]

Same

[@cockatoo010]

Sometimes I feel good about not bring American

[@infidelheretic923]

Which is why it’s sponsored by Nord VPN

[@SquareoftheLightOnes]

If you have a twin sibling, then their social security number will be your social security number with the last digit having a difference of one.

[@zombieslayer1468]

probably