BRUTAL Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu arm breaking techniques and throws

[@hmurdock]

Two remarks from a former Daito-Ryu practitioner- On the first technique- notice there is also a step where the defender kicks the attacker in the ribs when he's down before the arm break- and we were taught to do it with the tip on the leg, toes bent up, so the impact zone is small- or in other words- rib breaking kick, which is also used to push the attacker and helping straightening the arm to make the arm break easier. Two- on the Obi Otoshi, we were told of a more violent version where you don't grab the belt- but "a little lower". Also, the technique would end with landing the guy (gently in practice of course) on the knee when kneeling, and bending his back backwards until he taps out- "back breaking" when applied "in battle". I once practiced with a BJJ group and I accidentally kicked a guy in the ribs like in the first technique, I didn't even think about it when doing it, and he's like "Dude- you kicked me in the ribs!" and I said I'm sorry a few times...

[@Mike_44]

I particularly like all three: Judo, Aikido & Ju jujitsu

[@sfkingalpha]

so you dont like any in patrticular if you like all 3

[@conorfiggs234]

@@sfkingalpha how particular are we talkin here?

[@mitchjames9350]

Not much difference between Aikido and Aikijujitsu except Daito Ryu is more stronger.

[@dextergarner1286]

@@sfkingalpha it means he likes learning martial techniques. Not a style fanatic.

[@eyescat1082]

El aikijiujitsu es la combinación de las tres anteriores en su versión original y antigua, en otras palabras es lo mejor de las tres anteriores ya que NO tienen tantas eliminación de "técnicas peligrosas" (para mi lo peligroso es no aprender esas técnicas en caso de necesitarlas alguna vez en la vida, eso sí es peligroso).

[@Aiki_and_Jiu]

Glad to see you cover this Chadi. I trained Judo (brown) in the 90’s then began Daito Ryu (2nd degree black) through the Takumakai lineage. Currently prepping for BJJ black belt. I teach some judo at our academy but also add Daito Ryu in many scenarios. Daito Ryu has some very subtle kuzushi and pain compliance that I have not seen in other arts. Some of the techniques/concepts are extremely valuable in live rolls against high level BJJ as well. I really enjoy catching legitimate Daito Ryu submissions during rolls. There are so many reasons that BJJ athletes should look at koryu to improve their overall skills. 👍🏼🥋

[@trinidadraj152]

I'm with you. Some of my best techniques have come from combining tools I learned from traditional arts with modern techniques. For instance, the gyakun hand structure... When doing a low-single takedown, instead of pressing the shoulder against medial side of the ankle, why not apply the pressure against the radial nerve using a gyakun or an iron-bone hand structure? Works real good. It hurts.

[@Aiki_and_Jiu]

@@trinidadraj152 yes, I use that exact grab on the inside of the ankle on “special” occasions 😆

[@reyromero1115]

Yo me empece del Aikido Aikikai, luego vi la Rudeza de Gozo Shioda y cuando supe que vienen del Daito Ryu, me puse a investigar mas, Estoy en Judo, pero donde vivo no hay AikiJujutsu, pero conseguí algunos Libros que pongo mucha atención combinado con Videos y ahora entiendo porque se sentía que algo le faltaba al Judo y Aikido, el Daito Ryu es perfecta para defensa personal y tiene Llaves a articulaciones de pierna

[@ray7892-d6i]

I'm practicing Iwama ryu Aikido where atemi is always encouraged and other attacks such as elbow breaking during shihonage or even kicking are explained/practiced. I think it's one of the closest Aikido styles to the root of Aiki Jujutsu.

[@randym7692]

As a practitioner of aiki ju jutsu for more years than I care to remember, my sensei taught us the very beginnings of many daito ryu techniques. There are so many "expert" street fighters out there that jam up the comments sections of videos such as this with comments like "yeah, it works great with a compliant uki" or "that would never work in a real fight". For those individuals I would say a true daito ryu master would welcome them on the mats to show them how "ineffective" the techniques are. I know for a fact they're real and work as I have been the uki in many demonstrations. The problem with daito ryu is the techniques truly do take a lifetime to master to proficiency level in which it looks effortless. Overall I loved the premise of the video and the techniques demonstrated. However, many of the techniques shown come from the attacker wielding a sword since this style comes from the days of the samurai. These days I don't think we'll find anyone attacking with a sword with an overhead strike as demonstrated. However, that being said, there are plenty of other ways to get the attacker in a compromising position to execute a technique. Shugyo!

[@guycolvile]

I trained with a JuJitsu system in the UK, trainers were exmilitary , involved in personal protection and security at all levels ; we learned a lot of daitoryu techniques, and even the attitude to Uke is from Daitoryu i.e. damage the opponent as much as possible in the fastest time possible. eg never throw an opponent without breaking something. (it was mixed up with SHorinji Kempo also). Brown belts were accepted as security at pretty much any establishment in London without further question.

[@fredazcarate4818]

Thank you Chadi for presenting both the history of the art and its older training methods and philosophy in a unambiguous manner. I truly appreciate the amount of work and dedication in your mini documentaries. God bless you and your family lad .

[@jasonpoilovs4903]

Again, super informative, insightful with an historical flare. Top 5 martial arts channel. #1 historically accurate grappling channel. I ALWAYS watch your content ❤️

[@skyedog24]

Twenty years ago when I got my black belt. I found myself using extra wristlock technique on Grabs, on strikes when I can strike and I can make a grab on a joint I do so ,and I learned this naturally it just came about through my own practice. When I make a throw I almost always have my opponent in a wrist or arm technique as the throw is happening I am on the verge of using it. I don't mean I'm on the verge of using it on a daily basis type thing when I make a throw or a make a wrist lock I naturally think about the secondary function of what can happen after that and it's always on my mind and I always have the Technics seen here on my mind as a secondary step always.

[@PabloMartinez-gt9yw]

Finally someone discussing DAITO RYU,which is a lethal martial art, which was practice by samurais in the castle

[@francoistourigny3006]

It’s one of the best explanation of theses martial art I had seen, thank you😊

[@minorityofone1510]

Appreciate all the traditional clips you manage to find and mix into commentary and modern examples 👏👏. I have become more and more interested in all the different styles of Japanese Jiu Jitsu and their approaches so thank you! (2nd Dan practitioner of a modern version of Fusen Ryu)

[@ambulocetusnatans]

Fusen Ryu seems like an interesting style. I heard that it is one of the constituents of Bartitsu. Not very common these days.

[@Yoandrys23]

I trained Daito Ryu Saigo Ha Ko Ryu as a teenager but my sensei( a panamerican medalist in Karate and 1 dan in Judo) taught us that you can't skip the process. You have to train and gain experience we did Jujutsu then we progress to Aikijutsu and the final stage (after decades of training and thousands of repetitions) Aiki( I never got here but I felt the difference as a Uke. is just executing the techniques with minimal effort where every details matters). Maai, Kuzushi, and Mushin are concepts that I try to apply to Bjj but that I learned in Daito.

[@shoppingrb9544]

You were scammed, kid.

[@Yoandrys23]

@@shoppingrb9544 Sure Bro.

[@trinidadraj152]

@@shoppingrb9544 Go feel it for yourself. Daito style training is hard, and it hurts.

[@justanotheryoutubeaccount]

There is no formal branch of _Daito-ryu_ that's "Saigo-ha". Can you describe the lineage?

[@Yoandrys23]

@@justanotheryoutubeaccount my sensei is Maximo Roy Fernandez Rodriguez (even do I haven't train with him since 2004 when I was a teen) and his sensei is Guillermo Murphy del Cueto. beyond that, I don't remember. I remember that Komei Sekiguchi came a couple of times but he was just teaching Iaijutsu to my sensei. I have a vague memory of Ichikawa sensei being mentioned but I don't remember the context. but I do remember our style or school being called "Saigo Ha Koryu"

[@jjs3890]

The first technique ippon dori/ ikkio in aikido, the atame was originally designed to be a tanto jutsu technique and the knuckle strike replaced the knife stab. This is common in Aikijujitsu & jujitsu.

[@PicaPauDiablo1]

Your content is always amazing.

[@ValleyDragon]

I started Training Aikido about 18 months ago. When we do a controlled arm takedown. We practice submissions. Slightly different than the breaks in AikiJuJutsu, but we do not just let go and walk away once we have the opponent on the ground.

[@thomasturner4253]

Thanks Chad I For showing Old school techniques from various arts

[@mbongenihani5450]

As a martial arts nerd, I really enjoy your content. Keep up the good work.👍

[@DavidArce-qh8of]

Chai my Dude, once again bad ass video, thanks

[@skyedog24]

25 plus your jiu-jitsu instructor/ student Small arms inst. I started using a wrist ankle or arm locking technique on my own I was always searching for something extra. When I do a throw I always am looking for that particular type of situation.. when other people I would work out with started realizing that this is what I was doing they were actually kind of stunned . I don't actually follow through with the hold . But it's like I'm always on the edge of being able to pull the trigger and finish off with that part of the technique. On almost every throw that I do. I don't even have to think about it it's just part of the way that I use my jiu-jitsu. I'm glad to see that it has a name.

[@keithhill9047]

Thank you for sharing....I think however and whatever way people practice their martial art, it's important to understand where it came from and why they do what they do...I'm very lucky in that in 50 years training/practice/ studies and Bu Jutsu, I have experienced some amazing sensei, that knew, understood, and encouraged the ideas of knowledge in what we are doing and where it came from....I'm very grateful and respectful of your efforts, investigation, and taking time to share these document videos. OSU

[@marcoborsatino8393]

Video davvero interessante che espone le radici dell'Aikido e la loro efficacia.

[@rblokey]

In case anyone is confused Daito Ryu is not aikido. However aikido is descended from Daito Ryu as Ueshiba was a student of Sokkaku Takeda

[@rblokey]

Also at 1:30 the extended middle knuckle represents striking with a dagger not an actual punch. Watch the ikkajo video on KZbin it originated from aikinews I think.

[@SoldierDrew]

@@rblokey that's correct. Also when we strike with an open hand finishing blow, tegatana, after a technique that only symbolizes drawing our dagger or wakazashi to deliver the fatal strike. Daito Ryu is a weapons retention and anti-abduction /counter-arrest art.

[@rblokey]

@@SoldierDrew can you elaborate on what you mean by weapons retention counter arrest antikid-knapping? I would never have looked at the training that way.

[@iatsd]

@@rblokey If you look at most daito ryu technique a lot of it makes no sense if you're unarmed. The movements are often unnecessary or low margin when compared to many other unarmed jujitsu styles. But if you add in weapons to the person being attacked and the idea of trying to retain your weapons against an attacker, then suddenly a lot of daito ryu movements start to make sense - a LOT of sense. The flowing nature of them and the space they tend to take make more sense when you add in the need for space to draw a weapon. A lot of the avoidance movements make more sense when you consider a person trying to protect or retain their weapons from being seized or pinned.

[@rblokey]

@@iatsd interesting, how did you determine movements to be unnecessary?

[@archie26]

Most of the atemi waza done in Aikijujutsu and Aikido was thought to be done WITH WEAPONS. Thats the main problem of many "analysts" who try to categorize weapon systems with nude hand boxing systems criteria. Take a research about old school aikido (still very near to dayto ryu way of training), for example, Arikawa Sensei. I am practicing aikido since my 14 years old and I am proud of It, my Sensei is institutionally inside aikikai but we practice more direct and triangular aikido (not so absorvent or circular), in the line of Arikawa, Tamura and Kobayashi Senseis. Thanks you for your respectfully video, very interesting.

[@Noone-rt6pw]

Thank you, another good video. If more Daitoryu & Aikido can be shown, I'd like it.Especially daitoryu, using actual techniques.

[@victorfreedom93]

As a grappling enthusiast your channel Is a very valuable source of information 👌👌

[@DavidArce-qh8of]

Chadi my dude, you did it again, excellent vid.

[@Chadi]

Appreciate that

[@raijinoni5164]

been honored to have done this art in past for 3 years under Sensie Juan R (in SFL) . Absolutely brilliant art. Timing is so important in the wazas that I did (but same can be said about most budo art ; timing that is) . I found DAITO RYU via BAKI THE GRAPPLER (2004) series . Great vid; tons of modern applications just have to stick with the art long enough (per say to make it your own).

[@nappyheaded]

Baki is very confusing. At first Gouki Shibukawa was a Aiki Jujutsu practioner but then they changed him to an Aikido practioner. I swear in the manga they changed him to an Aikido practioner.

[@hmurdock]

That guy in Baki is based on Gozo Shioda, the developer of Yoshinkan Aikido, which is closer to Daito-Ryu. You can literally see some of the techniques in Baki from his videos, especially that toe stepping/twisting.

[@darryl8806]

Thank You For This Video,Sir

[@MrOptimusheath]

enjoyable video. Another often forgotten element to Daito Ryu and Aikido, is the Absolute blending of positive and negative energies, at the exact moment of contact, and the Execution of the entire opponents Attack, and the application of Aiki into the Technique right into the finished position, to be one single unbroken Movement. So you blend with your opponent and take his energy, adding your own energy, and in the same motion finish the movement, leading the enemy where you will.

[@MrOptimusheath]

In terms of Daito Ryu, leading the enemy where you will and breaking him completely. lol

[@MarioSeoane]

I'm grateful with Aikido, it served me in so many different levels, including self defense, without the legal consequences of a fatal or harmful injury to others. In ancient times for sure I would prefer to learn Aiki Ju Jitsu.

[@francescodauria2884]

Mario e pensare che ci sono tanti ignoranti che dicono chel aikido in situazioni reali non serve e io dico che sono fuori strada e che si sbagliano di grosso perché l aikido è un arte marziale seria e efficace vero? Ciao Mario e continua a praticare e ad allenarti nell aikido perché con la pratica che si ottengono i risultati .ciao

[@ryaanford3642]

Chadi your channel or videos are top knotch keep it up brother very informative

[@gezortenplotz]

I liked the mention in your video of configuring the atemi fist - instead of the normal karate method of curling the fingers tightly. I have heard it called a “diamond cutter.” It does protect the fingers and knuckles through long years of training and is an effective strike as well.

[@lilt504]

Thanks!

[@lilt504]

At my old age, your channel keeps my interest in aikijujitsu and old school judo going. Your detail and references are exceptional. Thank you. 🙏🏽

[@Chadi]

@@lilt504 thank you so much for your support 🙇🏻‍♂️

[@danqfrank44]

Hey chadi, may i drop a link to your channel in a document im writing? this video inspired me to do so.

[@AikidoEducation]

This is s good comparison that is respectful of the differences between Daito Ryu and Aikido.

[@Dulitzlives]

Truly excellent video. 17 years Nihon Goshin Aikido......at higher levels we practice according to rank and age. No 12 year old belts here!

[@santhosh9044]

Very informative thank you

[@lW9497]

Nice detailed explanation. I would add that the attacker in each incident is obviously wielding a weapon, such as a sword or knife. The response is to keep that weapon away from one's self. Spinning the attracker away or lifting the arm is really just a way to keep the weapon at arm's length. Practioners should use weapons so that students understand what was really going on.

[@richardschwarz4290]

Chadi, this is beautiful! Thank you for sharing. I am looking to practice a Japanese martial art but as I am older now I did not want one where I had to stop training due to constant injuries. Which one do you recommend me?

[@justinwallace269]

This looks like a fantastic skillset to learn! I have to deal with crazy thieves coming into my work on a daily basis, and there's no telling when one might get violent. I've already had to scare a few off with some amateur level Aikido, but I feel like this is an important component missing from that. Love to learn more. Would you say that this is better than Aikido, or are their tradeoffs? Did Aikido add anything to the effectiveness of the techniques?

[@lazmonti]

Chadi, I love what you do with your YT channel. I just want to say, please, do not confuse Aikido syllabus for grading, to what is known by the old and knowledgeable Senseis. When you see Aikido on YT, all you see is the syllabus. Most of the variations, reversals, and old school techniques are not shown. If you are lucky and have a Sensei that has been around for a long time, you'd be surprised the depth of knowledge they have of the variations and old techniques. O'Sensei Morihei Ueshiba, went through different stages of his Aikido, from hard Aiki Jujutsu to a very soft spiritual Aikido towards the end of his life. Depending on at what stage a Sensai learned from Ueshiba they learned a certain way of doing techniques. Some Sensei, like Saito Sensei, whanted to carry on with a harder style that is closer to Aiki Jujutsu while others chose the softer style. Lot of the old timers in AIKIDO know a lot more than what is in the grading syllabus. Thinking that AIKIDO is just a watered down and soft version of AIKI Juijutsu, is like when BJJ practitioners think that Judo is a watered down and less effective Jiujitsu. All the old techniques can still be found in Judo just not in the syllabus or in every Judo class. A lot depends on the Sensei and school.

[@ivoiliev3957]

That's a great way to explain it, thank you!

[@Lift_these]

Thank you chadi. I was wondering, what was the name of that Daito Ryu video you presented?

[@PabloMartinez-gt9yw]

Kondo Sensei it was a pleasure to go to his seminars,and having the honor and privilege of being thrown by him

[@iancooll12]

I too did Judo first, for 4yrs under two silver Olympic medalists, then a little Boxing, I was busy with work. Followed by finding a great Sensi, and his dojo in traditional Shotokan Karate and Jujitsu, it was all self-defence oriented in those days. This was the mid 1960's to mid eighties, fellow members were mainly Cops, Bouncers, and a mix of Army and some other types, it was very tough training even the warm-ups were hard, everything was meant to condition the body, strenghen & toughen it. Contact in sparring was hard, and if you missed a block then you got hit and hard to a fair degree, depending on the opponent/Level you're training at. Two High-Level Sensi-Masters use to come over from Japan to grade Brown belts and beyond, not at all like it is today. These two, were family members, of the founders, in their late 70s or 80s and had Bodies better than most. Incredible to see them still doing inverted one-armed push-ups, on one or two fingers, and laughing. unbelievable.

[@edgardocarrasquillo9]

Thank you again.

[@raphaelhudson]

I like the obi otoshi a lot . That's similar to one of the ways I learnt to do o soto in the self defence judo class I did as s kid which was run by police officers. I thought the palm to the face was too dangerous for real life. But I used a close hanger version quite often in real fights, which I guess has some link to akido irimi nage .

[@MrBluemanworld]

Daito Ryu and Aikido are traditional martial arts. They are what they are. I say respect the beauty, art and intricacies of martial arts. Not everything has to be compared to MMA brawling. Martial Arts are beautiful; and there are too many benefits.

[@allenalsop6032]

Where is the video. Sound but no picture.

[@gengotaku]

Cool video! At 5:14 the technique is “ koshi guruma “(腰車)and not “koshi nage “ (腰投げ).

[@eliotquintana9802]

Techniques jujutsu aikido mix it up both fighting style

[@patricksmith8262]

Honestly, this is how I learned Aikido back in the early 90's. I remember practicing a fancy technique with all sorts of elaborate flourishes. Then asking the instructor about the reality, he showed me all the hidden breaks and disabling techniques "hidden" in the technique. Blew my mind and changed the way I looked at martial arts in general.

[@shoppingrb9544]

Bulshitsu will always blow kid's minds.

[@patricksmith8262]

@@shoppingrb9544 What is 'Bulshitsu' about being exposed to the Daito Ryu roots of Aikodo?

[@DallasGraham-h9h]

for a short period of time I was security at a night club and being a 1dan in aikido, Im 6'2" yet I was the smallest guy compared to the bouncers who were on steroids,(huge guys.) I would walk people out by their fingers and wrist in sankyo while their dancing on their toes. I have Many other real life scenarios aikido has proved to work for me.

[@Linzoid6]

Thank you for this post. An interesting point on Obi Otoshi. From a Daito perspective the judo version starts as Obi Otoshi but has the ending of Tsukui Nage from the Ushiro Dori of Nikajo, very interesting mix of the two. Yours in Budo :)

[@dibyasattwakarmakar]

Thank You , Sir . Osu

[@brankoanthonyposa3005]

I love jujitsu as it stops someone without hurting someone.A brilliant trapping art.

[@shihantemplet]

You could also compare it to Hakkoryu Jujitsu which is another interpretation of Daitoryu by one of Tekada’s students, Okuyama.

[@iatsd]

It's important to remember that daito ryu was invented by Takeda and that it has no history that has been verified as genuine prior to him. It's a late 19th century martial art. Doesn't detract from what it is and isn't. Just a simple fact and getting in before the "ancient knowledge/traditions" BS crowd arrives.

[@willaumep]

Well being a second dan in Aikido and practising HEMA (tai -jutsu is called ringen in medieval German). You will find pretty much much the aikio/jj/aki-jj techniques in medieval wrestling. even the throw by the head in Eushiba 1938 budo. The knee on the elbow as a pin from ikkio you showed is there in ringen and in the aikido i have been taught . i have been taught to put Koshi in all the throwing techniques so that it is much more difficult to break fall out of it. In fact i consider break falling, unless tori lets you catch up with the technique, is kind of a counter technique. If you think about it arm bars (or any ije jime technique) are never going to work against medieval armure, so the only way is nikkio sankio. kotergaeshi as they go the way the armour is designed to let the wearer move. It is not that aikido is technically unsound, you may even have been taught is to use atemi to isolate the arms and gain a better position you may even have been taught counter techniques and changingtechnique, you will probably have realised hat there is no such thing as wrist lock and that they should all be arm lock at the very least and that the start of ikkio, shiro and kote will give you enough of a temporary dominant position so that you either have time to finish in pretty much everting else or you can use the way he/she ey resist the initial bit into the appropriate technique. The fundamental problem it is that we are not being taught how to create the situation where the technique of your choose has a large chance of succeeding, in fact you would be lucky if you were taught 9 basic techniques from 16 forms of attacks . What i am getting at is that i only saw shokumen iriminague on video and this one 3 the fundamental starting ponts to get started in mediaeval wrestling. and the way i was taught aikido follows exactly atemi-> throw-> pin->finish em/him/her

[@upducgames3479]

Does Mike Jones know you are using his instructional videos from New York Aikikai? Seems like you should credit him.

[@MrVicJass]

Снова нерабочее иккио. Да сделайте как в дай торю.

[@jimschroeder1176]

Hapkido also derives from Daito Ryu.

[@bustercrabbe8447]

I studied Hakko-Ryu jiu-jitsu, a koryu art. Aikido is a gendai art. In Hakko-Ryu jiu-jitsu there was an emphasis on atemi waza and that the arm and/or wrist was to be broken.

[@Veepee92]

Hakko-ryu isn't koryu and neither is Daito-ryu. Both can be considered "traditional", but only schools that have history's reaching earlier than 1868 can be legitimately called "koryu", and neither Hakko-ryu nor Daito-ryu pass that test.

[@varamaur9567]

Hakkoryu was founded after aikido became distinct from Daito-ryu.

[@OneFromEasternFinland]

I read a book 'bout martial arts. There was a chapter 'bout daito ryu aikijujutsu too and it says that the daito ryu aikijujutsu techniques are very effective and that those techniques have vanished from most budo arts

[@julienwatkins3574]

He wasn't demonstrating a throat cut. He was showing the neck break.

[@cesarag0723]

All of these techniques, both arm breaking and throw variants I learned in Aikido at the advanced level, wondering if maybe you exited too early? Or maybe just teacher preference specific? Curious.

[@trinidadraj152]

The point remains. Daito training is different in emphasis.

[@ThibautKurt23]

A friend at my aikido club who is a ju jutsu showed me how he learn the shiho nage, it was really painful, exactly like on this video...

[@mushotoku_ro]

Spiritual trainning is neccesary , togheter with body and mind discipline ,All aspects of human potential should be discovered and developed in harmonious way, with love and respect for life miracle . BU DO & ZEN DO it is an productive combination for some people. Shaolin kung fu is a famous example for total trainning: spirit , body and mind wisdom

[@uberdonkey9721]

Yep, we used to do both ways of shiho nage. The one where you're going for a break the uke literally has to do a high jump over the top to protect their arm

[@bartangel4867]

some of those moves are quite interesting

[@Durante_di_Alighiero]

Some points concerning the video: 1. His name is Katsuyuki Kondo not Katsuhiko. 2. Daito ryu is not an "art of war". It was created by Sokaku Takeda somewhere around the 1900's so technically it would be a gendai art (meaning post 1868.) and therefore was never battle tested as much as most if not all koryu arts were not battle tested. Note also that this is Daito ryu Aikibudo the art of Tokimune Takeda, son of Sokaku, meaning he added a bunch of stuff from his own training in (t)his version of the Daito ryu art. 3. The equivalent of the Daito ryu Ippondori shown by Kondo would be a Shomenuchi Ikkyo variation. There are initial atemi present in various versions of Ikkyo by various instructors including Hayato Osawa, Hiroshi Tada etc. the rest of the technique would include you dropping uke downwards to his knee or knees (his shoulder being pressed down to the matt), a kick to his ribcage driving him left under a 45 degree angle, and driving outwards right extending his arm again under a 45 degree angle. Off course the NY Aikikai do the standard dojo safe way of doing things for beginners. (Note also: Sen (先) - Initiative like Gō-no-sen 後の先 : To respond to an attack after it is initiated, Sen-no-sen 先の先 : To anticipate an attack and to take the initiative, Sensen-no-sen 先先の先: To anticipate an attack before the attack; are also present in the variations thus increasing them) 4. For the "execution" part as can be seen Masayuki Kondo does the extending arm part at the end immediately without the kicking part. You can also see the reason why some Aikido dojo's still do Ukemi with protecting the head with the free arm by entangling it around their own neck to the other side protecting also the back of the head from being hit. 5. As far as the breaking point in Shihonage, that's taught as an "advanced" version after you learned yoko ukemi in Aikido somewhere in the Dan ranks, as for the "aikido version" of Shihonage, you can actually see Masayuke Kondo doing the same one at 1:04:28 of the video you referenced in your video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmilfKyfbMZlndU&ab_channel=IntelligentCombatApplications 6. The "osoto o toshi" you mention, which is named kurumadaoshi in DR, looks like a mix between yokomenuchi tenchinage found in Aikido and the mentioned osoto o toshi. 7. The "koshi nage" in Daito ryu is not a hip throw but a balance breaking technique as stated by Kondo himself in this video starting at 3:20: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWiqfIybdqeDY7c&ab_channel=zaynit . Another point of reference for this video is this technique from Yagyu Shingan ryu an art Ueshiba studied before Daito ryu starting at 2:30 : kzbin.info/www/bejne/fau3dIShZ7B7r7M&ab_channel=arakido

[@mcroadracer1]

We study old school techniques 👍

[@donq2957]

There needs to be an MMA contest where aikiddo is allowed. Ufc bans all small joint manipulation.

[@Veepee92]

"Small joint manipulation" refers to twisting fingers and toes. All techniques attacking wrists are fair game, so there's no stopping for Aikido in MMA already now.

[@graciescottsdale]

It seems like break falling is a "lost art" in Judo these days. Notice the difference from the old footage of Judo and Diato ryu

[@Bagoth2]

Which is a shame, nreak falling is so beneficial. More so than even the throwing techniques.

[@graciescottsdale]

@@Bagoth2 100%

[@baldieman64]

You allude to but don't explain the entry break at 3:16. Very few Aikidoka seem to be aware of its existence.

[@keithkelly4091]

Aikido is a very misunderstood martial art

[@HadiNAU]

Not all Aikido are misunderstood. Aikido has different styles. I've been doing Yoshinkan Aikido which has different style and approach from aikikai style.

[@asengeorgiev7848]

Mandatory "but Aikido doesn't work, and you can't control people in standing" post! ...There. Now we got it out of the way and can continue. (And yes, I know Aiki-jutsu=/=Aikido).

[@nappyheaded]

I've done Iwama Aikido and they do more atemi than the regular Aikkikai. But it's nothing like the atemi they do in aikijujutsu.

[@nappyheaded]

I wish the technique at 6:05 was legal in Aikido tournaments. It looks very effective. It's illegal to grab the gi or the belt and do shomen-ate.

[@DuplicitousDark]

the core principle techniques are what matter, the other techniques like atemi are left up to the practitioner.

[@moz5831]

I used to do shintonage like that when I was doing aikido as a kid. I think you figure it out sooner or later as you progress. I didn’t do any of the techniques the way they were thought in aikikai and whaddayaknow, later I found those were pretty much the way they were done back in the day. Of course it was done to me as well. I was thrown with this kind of Shintonage thousand times, but I was flexible and I had a great ukemi (aikido is really good for general mobility and flexibility, especially if you start young). But I don’t think most people ever become good enough at ukemi to practice it like that, or any of the other techniques for that matter. Obviously, if you get the lock, you can break the arm, that’s not the issue whether it is effective or not. The issue is the setup. I get why in japanese tradition there was all this hand grapping (weapons), but it isn’t really a sensible way to practice today. You are kinda practicing for this once in a lifetime phantasy scenario which will prob never happen. Same with the all out attacks, opponent running for miles away. I’d say I did most of these techniques pretty close the way they were done in this video and I’d say I was pretty good, but honestly I couldn’t have pulled for an example shintonage against a fully resisting opponent in million years (ikkyo, nikyo, sankyo etc maybe). Especially if the opponents knows any grappling whatsoever, but prob even if they don’t. It would be more realistic to practice this from standing grappling randori (like judo), but that will never be safe even with like 50% resistance. But all of the principles of these techniques could be used from newaza at least a bit more safely, so basically just adding these techniques and principles to bjj (I’m referring to the locks, the throws are in judo one way or another already). Then again, would that be just few more gimmicks for the jiu jutsu practitioners and nothing else? Then comes a question whether one appreaciates what Ueshiba really wanted to teach, which was meditation in movement and harmony. But I really doubt whether modern aikido teaches that very effectively either, if at all.

[@gatocles99]

Stabbings happen all the time.

[@moz5831]

@@gatocles99 I don’t think we should teach people to use weapons against unarmed opponents. In aikijutsu, it is you who has or is trying to access a weapon, whereas the the other person grabs your hand to stop it. The technique exist solely to remove or break their hand so you can draw a sword or knife and murder them in cold blood in order to protect the shogunate and the emperor. But somewhere along the line we stopped considering a violent oppressive feodal class system such a great idea. Many people really do not have any idea from what sort of brutal society created this sort of grappling. Aikijutsu/koryu jutsu really are a thing of the past and judo and bjj are modern (and I might dare to say democratic) equivalents, which are also effective today. Saying that, as an exercise/meditation aikido etc are cool and I’m happy these parts of Japanese culture are preserved.

[@gatocles99]

@@moz5831 Such cowardly words. Fists are a lethal weapon. More people are killed every year by fists than by AR-15's. Criminals are brutal, and we good people have the RIGHT to use Koryu Jutsu and weapons to defend ourselves against them. Lethal force against any physical assault is lawful and justified, and righteous.

[@moz5831]

@@gatocles99 um, yeah ok. Well, good luck with that.

[@gatocles99]

​@@moz5831 It is the Law in America that one has the right to use lethal force in self defense or defense of others. Maybe where you live, it is the law that you must submit to criminals. Hence your passive bottom attitude.

[@mirkodisilverio6032]

There are some mistakes in shower aikido techniques. Looks for Saito's sensei techniques.

[@DKRDesing]

This Brutaly

[@christopetkov4168]

why are they attacking by holding / grabbing the wrist? I mean .. who ever does that in an attack?

[@varamaur9567]

Restraint from drawing a weapon, and escape from such retention.

[@mickymorton7148]

❤ 🥋. Traditional old school aikido what people don’t realise today that techniques you see & learn in aikido they were in same as in aiki jujitsu but less atemi waza strikes you make modern aikido today 2023 earlier for Its students to learn…. & practice now it’s Founder Morihei Ueshiba he was great martial artist ex Japanese war soldier who used brutal self defence techniques in Japan soil as means of battlefield warfare … so after war he founded what is known as aikido art of peace…. But don’t let that fool you because in some aikido schools today atemi waza strikes are put back into there training…

[@chrishov8890]

Diato Ryu works. Trained it for many years. And then ninjutsu...

[@glowindark64]

LOL

[@eyescat1082]

Definitivamente me suscribo a este canal es increíble cuanto conocimiento aporta en videos de apenas unos minutos. Tiene mi suscripción y mi like este video. Sigue así y este canal crecerá en suscripciones si ó sí. Felicitaciones,excelente canal.

[@Chadi]

Thank you 🙏🏻🙇🏻‍♂️

[@wolfcorpse]

I had the honor of training with Kondo Sensei, I slept in his dojo for 11 days. Really awesome guy

[@vano-559]

Eventually, no techniques can be used for breaking arms was shown. Maybe 'cause no one will share a video with it?

[@dextergarner1286]

Good Aikido is progressive and application of principles will bring you to the martial roots. Some dojo’s still apply techniques for street and self defense, but some never. Hence why you have such a wide range of ineffective technique in the real world bs on the mat. But progression is necessary for beginning training, especially if you’re beginning at an adult age (martial disciplines really are best to begin training in youth imho. You see the effectiveness in boxing, this boxing, grappling).

[@rustamismailov9889]

Очень хотелось бы посмотреть, как они применять эту технику против мастеров бокса.....

[@taylorlibby7642]

Interesting

[@smokingblues5067]

Martial art journey a youtuber should Watch this ... He was an aikido master and he have up aikido and his job ti learn jujitsu kickboxing...

[@iatsd]

Rokas was a 3rd dan, and not a very good one. His technique is genuinely terrible - as is pointed out often when he demonstrates it - but he refuses to engage in honest discussion about almost anything to do with aikido. He's found a market (ignorant BJJ/MMA weenies that want to hate on other MA's) that makes him money and he's milking it for everything it's worth.

[@lcarlton281]

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[@asherasator]

@@iatsd That's the same type of conclusion I came to about Rokas. He's going to where the money is with youtube clicks and Patreon supporters, giving them what they wanna hear in an echo chamber. Imagine all the people he taught Aikido in his town that paid him and how they feel? What he's done is dishonorable and unethical. Even if he wanted to explore other styles and MMA he didn't have to go about it the way he did. But doing it like that gets him viewers. Because MMA/UFC is a sports entertainment trend he caved in to it as an opportunist for financial reasons.

[@roncar1761]

🥋🥋🥋

[@salabane123]

in aikijujutsu/aikijutsu, it's not shiho nage it's soto ude hineri

[@ISAACHALLEY3000]

Geese Howard fighting style

[@1ばかぶた]

In aikido, it isnt teached to push the opponent before opponent attacking. yes partly it is because aikido is a martial art of peace that isnt competing, but there is also other reason for that Aikido is different than aikijujutsu because aikido is just taking the non-strength technique using from aikijujutsu. all techniques in aikido are trapping techniques that only works by trapping opponent's body position and take them down using gravity. But, what you said as leg placing at shoulder is also being thaught at aikido for weapon stealing technique. It is just aikido outside japan are very low level that most of them dont teach this

[@iatsd]

I'd say you're mistaken on almost every point you make there. Out of interest, who taught you that view of aikido?

[@3941602]

Akido Gi s are the best in my opinion

[@MG-jn4ef]

Are you a black belt in aikido also?

[@Chadi]

Yes

[@MG-jn4ef]

@@Chadi Does aikido help with Judo in any way?

[@zhilaxfow7888]

@Chadi in the first technique of the video (ikajo series) I believe Kondo Sensei is demonstrating a stab with a tanto where there is no armor. I may be mistaken of course.

[@jamesfrankiewicz5768]

@@zhilaxfow7888 The armor gap would be slightly higher up. The spot he's aiming is definitely at a vulnerable point between the ribs (it's pretty unpleasant to be hit there). Not that it would take much to adapt from one to the other.

[@highchamp1]

Efficiency Beauty is just a consequence (Samurai) Use of Force (Continuum) Brutality is just a consequence (nuclear weapons) Waste The Art of War (avoid waste)

[@BramBramSyailendra]

one of the root of Aikido..no wonder O Sensei said aikido is 90 percent aatemi