CHALLENGING MAX VERSTAPPEN ON IRACING

[@angeloschellens]

I Think Max's restarts are key to his success. He's insanely good at controlling the pace, which is not illegal, brake checking is illegal since it's used to make people crash, but controlling the pace for the restart is actually key IRL too. I think the best example is the 2019 Brazil GP where Hamilton did not take advantage of a good restart and immediately lost out to Max while Max really controlled the restart and thus managed to gain a ton of time. After such a start its mostly key to manage your tires and keep it clean, which Max is very good at, he uses minimal steering input which also helps with the tire wear.

[@DriftJunkie]

Also steering input means you are understeering, whilst the best cornering forces are achieved with perfectly balanced slide of front and rear.

[@nixonleonidas6434]

sorry to be offtopic but does anyone know a tool to get back into an Instagram account..? I was stupid lost the password. I appreciate any tricks you can give me

[@elishadeshawn2599]

@Nixon Leonidas instablaster =)

[@TallyFox2]

I love his mentality on getting punted into the grass: "Not ideal but now I have content"

[@davidh8600]

Let me explain why he is sooo good: He is Max Verstappen

[@MasterSandman]

Because he's Dutch! 😎

[@peacee2431]

@@MasterSandman an angry dutch man

[@ahmed-A.112]

Max is goat

[@GoodNightGames05]

@@peacee2431 a flying dutch man

[@growWIFus]

And his father is jos so...

[@focussport]

He has literally been racing as a hobby, passion and job since he was a small child. Give anyone something to do that they love as a child, pour everything into them doing it, and watch then become one of the best in the world. The Williams sisters, Lebron James, Tiger Woods, Lewis Hamilton, Max... etc etc. The formula is simple. These greats are created and supported, and naturally love what they do.

[@lawrenegummy4736]

The reason why Max is a generational talent is because he is obsessed with one thing, racing is his life. When you focus all your life into one thing, you will be rewarded by becoming the best.

[@eclark9965]

Lots of kids start things young, especially since tiger. Lots of kids still fail. Specifically: almost all.

[@buzzbuzzard3809]

@@eclark9965 Not at all true. Sports, especially motorsports, golf etc. are not accessible to the vast majority of kids and even adults. Even more accessible sports like Football there is a lot of luck involved in terms of where you´re born, having the right people around you to nurture your growth and so forth. So many kids lose interest in what they´re doing as well because of a toxic environment or shitty coaches. I know that´s why I stopped the sports I was playing.

[@sighfly2928]

Max is hyper bred, because Jos (actual driver/ father), trained him from a young age. It’s like saying Charlie Woods is in the same boat with another youth golfer whose parents can’t even afford to send them to college.

[@yerrie1908]

The times it didn't work out are a trillion times bigger, utter nonsense and you prove it yourself , or do you have the idea only a few parents did tried it ?

[@SouthernYankee10000]

you cant beat one of the most talented drivers in the word huh, get good Tobin lol.

[@RoowF1]

Impossble. nobody can

[@wesleykroon8447]

People like Charles Leclerc, Max Verstappen or Lando Norris are to good to battle. You can win, they just need to make a mistake. If they dont you can just give up already

[@RoowF1]

@@wesleykroon8447 you are right!🔥

[@sdaewdaws]

Wesley Kroon KZbinrs like TRL Limitless, Tiametmarduk, Jimmy Broadbent, have identical (or even more) pace that Leclerc, Lando, Schumacher (David), Latifi who is underestimated in the F1 online world.

[@crownless236]

its all pace. and slight minuscule values in lap times. if you can try to play agressive and hold out every lap you might be guranteed to win. theres so many factors involved in being a good driver.

[@DaniFrederix]

Wow.. you're a really smart driver! So refreshing to hear. Great analysis!!!

[@TobinLeigh]

Cheers bro🍻

[@schen8129]

Meeting real drivers on the sim is something I wasn’t ready for, and the few times it has happened I was nervous. The one I most enjoyed was racing a long time idol :) Fernando Alonso, needless to say it is something I won’t soon forget. Thanks for the analysis, very detailed :).

[@lilibordei721]

What does Fernando race ?

[@RaindancerAU]

I popped this on as I was driving, so I could only listen and it was still a blast to listen to! Your commentary allowed me to visualise what was happening at all times! Really nicely narrated will have to watch it back properly as soon as I can 😅

[@Hetismijmike]

Funny when someone is behind you, he's in the slipstream and when you are behind someone you're in dirty air. Greetings from Holland ;-)

[@thrasherdave1428]

Haha story of my life :)

[@CPez]

Lime Rock!! Didn’t know he knew that track. Love how they show the Sam Posey Speedway. He’s a Legend around here in CT & Rhode Island.

[@stephenbachman132]

Max has been racing since he was small. He has been coached by the worlds best driver trainers and he practises racing regularly. The reason he is so good. Basically a couple of things 1. Natural talent. 2. Experience. 3. Balls 4. Knowing exactly how to maximise a cars potential.(setup)

[@TobinLeigh]

100%, nailed it on the head

[@raymondchapman5990]

@@TobinLeigh nope...missed one.. 5. Balls larger than brain a lot of the time.

[@wakeup01]

You forgot he's dutch😎...

[@zaziou711]

2, 3 and 4 are very common for a lot of drivers around the world. Number 1 though, Being that good, an absolute alien, is a rare gift. You can't learn it. Senna won his first races against kids five or six years older than him, Prost won his first karting race ever while he was just accompanying his brother, and with a broken arm. Verstappen would win in any cars you could give him, even a tractor. Number 1 is 99% of the recipe.

[@thomassievers3362]

If you don’t know already, you will never know, his mindset is on another level, his hunger for dominance was instantly showing the first race for Toro Rosso

[@defjam6517]

Max is the next 10 Time F1 Champion ... he is damn talented !

[@laos85]

There is no 10 time F1 Champion in the past

[@itsjustyas7724]

1 down 9 to go

[@TheRadoman]

xd

[@therealjimshady100]

No, unless masi is helping him out

[@paulhope3401]

He will only ever be a 10 time champion if RB can have a Merc level performance advantage for that length of time.... which is extremely unlikely. ...and for this precise no level playing field reaaon, F1 WDC count means absolutely nothing in terms of the measure of a drivers true caliber.

[@randeraad]

Pitwall : "Darth Max, execute order 66 on your steering wheel, kill the younglings!" Max : Nobody doesn't even have to hold my beer.

[@Darlexis]

Get this man in an F4 car!

[@Darlexis]

Yeah, dude! Get at Grosjean! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoqxm52aqZuEeaM

[@STREETCRAFTS]

If you think that you were slower than Max because of tyre temperatures then you still have a lot to learn.

[@Emyzee]

Haha, yeah they also had quite different racing lines where this guy could have saved some time. I see alot of differences here....

[@ademmurad7726]

I love how this takes place at lime rock, having been on that track its so surreal

[@DirtyiRacer]

Now you can say you’ve raced an F1 World Champion

[@Quazi-Moto]

Young as you are, quick as you drive, if you stick with sim racing... there's no telling where it could take you. Maybe even into a real car. If that isn't your desire, you could definitely make a living in competitions and on this site.

[@playstationracer67]

It must be amazing to race against some of the best in the world. What better way to learn to be better.

[@relentless9578]

You would be an awesome commentator, Awesome video mate !

[@TobinLeigh]

Thank you, genuinely something i have thought about doing! Appreciate it

[@frederiquerijsdijk]

Do you really think he's capable of warming up his tires faster, or can he just drive faster with colder tires. I think it's the first.

[@alexellis5]

saying either the first or the second is wrong. it's both. driving faster on cold tires puts more energy into the tires, which brings them up to temp more quickly. so it's a double edged sword where you gain in 2 ways.

[@dontdwellonit1559]

the secret - hi flows trough the corners like no one els...

[@Mandykiss4500]

If Anyone wants to know WHY Max is So Good on F1 Restarts after a Safety Car when he is the Lead Car…this is WHY! The Amount of Practice he has of Rolling Starts on iRacing is Insane! Proof that iRacing can Make Professional Drivers Better in the Real World!

[@AMRsti93]

Imagine this max dude in an f1 car

[@davidrobertson5996]

Brilliant - really enjoyed watching this. I've seen plenty of online racing content that is lacking, but this was excellent. Thanks for posting it!

[@Lunarvrr]

That was a good review, I'm impressed

[@TobinLeigh]

Thanks man 👍

[@MinosDaedalus]

11:48 The reeeal good stuff! Excellent drive from these drivers!

[@KiryuDojimasan]

😂 he drives like a scene from initial d where keisuke just pulls away

[@SR-mw4qe]

Max verstappen is boy wonder 💪

[@cmdreffietrinket]

I have been in the lead just a few times, but enough to come to appreciate that my lack of skills which mean I almost always always race in the midfield, is in fact a good thing, because lapping up front in the lead, unchallenged is so boring, compared to duking it out lap after lap in amongst the pack. It’s much more fun being average 😹😹😹😹

[@RenatoPiresPt]

you are a great driver... battle with him in that way, is not for everyone...

[@ericwright7570]

Wow, great video. Incredible driving by you and Max and the top finishers and great narration.

[@biaybiaczynski6174]

Instant sub after I saw Your performance at TRL Limitless channel :) Good Luck

[@TobinLeigh]

Cheers dude:)

[@TwinBroz]

Limerock! So cool.

[@trinidad111]

Winning is great, but sometimes a fighting top 5 finish is more rewarding than a runaway win

[@abc20002koonrsr]

Very realistic in that overtaking is really hard , wings and grip fix all that . Removing wings might be slower but the less aero would make things more interesting i beleive . Great to see the m8 competitive too as it the only car racing , shame it really was too big to be a great race car .

[@RbNetEngr]

Nice work managing good position in that race

[@danielbos1166]

Really enjoyed you’re review !!

[@TobinLeigh]

Thanks so much!

[@mrnobody6609]

Makes you wonder how good some of the other F1 drivers would be if they hopped on iRacing.

[@PresidentScrooge]

Alonso plays occasionally. If I recall correctly he loves to drive Formula Vee

[@JohnSmith-fe1id]

May I ask how you're able to race in such lobbies? Is it based on Iracing ranks? Goals to one day get to the point to go toe to toe with Max. Thanks!

[@Mabix_Racing]

Awesome Racing mate :) Greets from germany, you should try assetto corsa competizione 🔥

[@TobinLeigh]

Danke schoen! I have just purchased ACC, it's insanely good - will be posting videos very soon:)

[@Mabix_Racing]

LZR Racerz yeah nice :) see you on track!

[@britewires4305]

@@TobinLeigh its much better now in VR with the ASW option.

[@rasonline]

Good clean racing, nice to see. I'm not a big fan of this track for the car though. It's just super tough to punch a hole, and feels like you're gliding on ice all through the lap - put one foot wrong and losing traction, tip toe back. Good job keeping it together to the end.

[@TobinLeigh]

Cheers man, totally agree

[@flaviolisboa140]

Mate, would u mind helping me on how to turn that rear camera screen on the BMW M8? Nice video and skills btw!

[@TobinLeigh]

Cheers man, you can turn it on by setting the mirrors to "4" in your graphics settings I believe!

[@theoriginalsimstig9663]

This is. Max not even trying he does this with his eyes closed using his jedi racing senses to drive Yeah and also in a real car somehow I don't think you would be as close to max

[@nickpapageorgio8529]

You should do a side-by-side video of you and Max to see where he’s beating you out for time. Probably help impetuous driving a bit too

[@nickpapageorgio8529]

Probably help “your” diving… I have no idea how impetuous was autocorrected there lol

[@thesecretcouncil]

​@@nickpapageorgio8529 Its simple. Max is better at exits, steering input, tactic, tyre degradation management, and overal raw pace. He will never be on that level.

[@GG_Erik21]

I think that was one of the worst combinations in the whole season alongside with the IMSA at Lime Rock too😂😂 This circuit is small even for the Mazda hahahahaha

[@TobinLeigh]

Glad you agree 😂

[@razz0404]

5:45 Max is not a finnish racing driver

[@alexanderdoorknocker]

It looks like you have to turn your steering wheel more to turn than max. Looks like max barely turns his steering wheel and he rounds off corners no problem.

[@TobinLeigh]

Absolutely, 100% - that's something I'm actively working on atm!!

[@billyfletcheriracing9833]

All about working the car as much as possible. Something I’ve learnt recently, pitching and balancing the car with the correct steering, throttle and brake inputs

[@paulhope3401]

Yes, I saw that too. He either has a more pointy car (setup?) or is simply better at balancing the car probably through timing his throttle lifts/brake dabs perfectly and with near exact correct amount and finesse that the chassis is doing all the work.. and so he gets next to zero speed scrubbing understeer and is able to exit the corner on the perfect line at very slightly higher speeds. Even when you recognise that is where his pace is mostly coming from, trying to emulate it with the same extraordinary consistency, it is still extremely difficult. It would probably take me a good 4-500 back to back laps on time attack with a ghost car to get close to that, such is his consistancy... Its on another level. The uploaders driving is still a superb 9.5/10 for me.. and there is absolutely no shame in being beaten by a future F1 WDC. Superb video, it really helps you see where and how Max is faster. What an honour to race against him. I'd probably be so totally starstruck that I'd spin off or hit someone at the first corner. :D

[@alexanderdoorknocker]

When watching a video on youtube called "F1 v Champions League Stars: Heineken Karting Event at Monza" I noticed that F1 drivers are super sharp at turning their steering fast and not all the way to turn way faster through turns wheel whilst normal drivers make rounder turns and turn the steering wheel the whole way. F1 drivers cut their wheel super sharp and really challenge the corners aggressively while normal drivers tend to turn later and have to turn their steering wheel more to turn. View the video that I'm referencing and give me your opinion.

[@paulhope3401]

@@alexanderdoorknocker These painfully slow karts and that type of exhibition event is probably not the best example but yes with a kart... which is very crude, very basic, no differential, it has a solid rear axle and these dont even have front brakes so you have a choice... either dont slide the rear (and because you have a fixed axle which makes the kart want to go straight on and resist turning, aka understeer)... you scrub loads more speed and through a far greater part of the corner... or.. you can be more aggressive with the steering to 'tripod' or tip the kart more on to the front end which raises the inside rear wheel to reduce rear grip and get the rear to come round/slide. That way your front wheels are straighter for longer and you are scrubbing less speed off through the turn because the rotation happens far quicker. If you study a karts steering geometry you will see that the outside front wheel rises up the more you turn the front wheels (aka castor angle.. which karts have a huge amount of)... when you combine weight transfer through braking or throttle use, this allows you to effectively remove some weight and therefore grip from the inside rear wheel through the turn and on tighter corners raise it off the ground completely. So in a nutshell - With a modern race car you typically have a limited slip differential with a big range of load, preload etc settings and infinately more tunability in the suspension/chassis to get the car to react, turn and handle as you desire.. so there is no need to be aggressive with the steering to get around a chassis inherent mechanical deficiency because it doesnt have one... or at least, not compared to a kart. Smooth is generally faster unless you have to be more aggressive to overrule a chassis/handling deficiency. Not sure if you were looking for that kind of explanation or not or comparing kart driving style to a racing cars.. but I hope I have explained it well enough and that, that is what you were asking.

[@Jensen89NL]

Good video👍🏻

[@TobinLeigh]

Glad you enjoyed

[@ScinnerNo1]

When Max in P1 made the same kind of start against Lando in P2, Lando was complaining that it was against the rules? Is that true?

[@cbrunnem6102]

Its protestable and will be successful against nobody drivers. Will they say anything to max? Unlikely but I have had successful protests against people who do this but worse.

[@ScinnerNo1]

@@cbrunnem6102 Thx man!

[@zavadil_racing7731]

Its protestable when you go into what seems like full throttle and then slow all the way down before green which causes wrecking in back. In this case he isn't going fast at all just slowing and then guns it when he deems. He's allowed to control the pace of all cars behind he's not allowed to cause wrecking intentionally.

[@cbrunnem6102]

@@zavadil_racing7731 the leading car must maintain pace car speed until he goes.

[@zavadil_racing7731]

@@cbrunnem6102 "6.8.2.5. Drivers are not allowed to approach the start/finish line as a race transitions from pacing, for example under yellow flag or at the start of a race, to speeds that are well beyond the pacing speed or speed of the leaders in an attempt to time the green flag to unfairly overtake other cars. An example of this would be to come up behind and catch a pack of cars pacing at 80 mph under yellow flag conditions at a speed of 150 mph in the vicinity of the start/finish line just as the race goes to green flag, and passing those cars. Under those conditions, the car catching up to the field from behind should slow down and get in line at the back of the pack at pacing speed and then begin racing as normal once the green flag is given." No where does it say you must maintain pace car speed. You may not intentionally cause wrecking in the back that is what gets people protested and suspended/banned.

[@AlphonseJames-FxWorth]

I found this kinda funny. Great content... Subbed!

[@xenomorph1317]

Challenging a formula 1 driver is prolly never a good idea.....

[@raulmedina2024]

Lewis was doing this before little max was ever doing this.

[@STREETCRAFTS]

no

[@EtjenDelilovic]

Great, thx for this!

[@bartoosterveld6414]

Hé Just keeps the gap consistent. The rest pushing Will make there tires burn up

[@nielsklaver7469]

Brilliant analysis/commentary man!

[@TobinLeigh]

Cheers man :)

[@karl8805]

He is max "make it happen" verstappen

[@eclark9965]

He got his tires warmer quicker? No. He’s just faster.

[@GreeKing83]

Lime Rock Park is one of my favorite local tracks.

[@Largallama]

A little bit confused, when you was behind traffic, you was in the dirty air, when the traffic was behind you, they had the slip stream, so which is it?

[@TobinLeigh]

Good question - it's both. Dirty air makes cornering more difficult, slipstream though makes the straights more OP. And, as all racing drivers i will always claim i'm always disadvantaged lol

[@Largallama]

@@TobinLeigh At least your honest lol, great vid tho, do you only play IRacing or do you switch between sims?

[@TobinLeigh]

@@Largallama Cheers man, i play everything, but am actually a pro Forza player

[@PandaGamerzNL]

Well the slip stream allows cars behind to stick with you, but the dirty air makes it difficult to actually get to an overtake. So you can't really get away from each other that easily.

[@DRAGON-fz8ye]

Cause he is Dutch😄👌💪💪

[@Nico_6967]

At 5:53, did you suggest that Max is Finnish? Jsyk, he’s Dutch

[@AngryPostmanStockholm]

Very cool

[@BookishGoodWitch]

Because he is Dutch😂🧡👑

[@lordadz1615]

Lol he got sent to the shadow realm

[@pcracing2391]

Really interesting video, well done, great racing too.

[@TobinLeigh]

Thanks bro:)

[@vinivarella8508]

Id like to see him in the MX5

[@vinivarella8508]

I did the same strategy at the start of the race and people started talking shit to me 💀 so much crybaby energy in iRacing

[@alanstons8072]

Awesome video mate. I've just subscribed. I wish i found your account earlier. Great driving man.

[@BrendyNew]

He was just in my race. He won lol

[@TobinLeigh]

He's proper quick huh!!

[@BrendyNew]

@@TobinLeigh didn't honestly notice he was in it until I went to check results.

[@peterscrimizzi8137]

Haha...you were probably racing Jos anyway!! Hey buddy, that was a good run considering you were up against a world champ. Impressive👍 You should see a run done by Juan Pablo Montoya on the race sims...he never really races sims and still wins up against seasoned sim players. When it comes to raw talent and car control..these are the types of guys youre up against.

[@mrplow8333]

He's not a world champ though is he.

[@peterscrimizzi8137]

@@mrplow8333 FUTURE world champion...👍👍 The kid is on another level...😉

[@joejohnnys]

Mr Plow he is . Kart WC beating Leclerc btw

[@peterscrimizzi8137]

@@joejohnnys Im glad you can see that Mr. Souza...Im sure we are not alone in knowing this...the kid reminds me of Mika Hakkinen..balls...racecraft...car control. He is indeed on the edge where the best of the best balance with the delicacy of life or death. Only the best reside there. 👍

[@joejohnnys]

Peter Scrimizzi 👍🏻👌🏻

[@alphaphgames8266]

He is good because he is now a world champion a world champion 🏆 🥳

[@phrogtesem9410]

MAX MAX MAX MAX

[@philmcnally7499]

He'll most likely run you off track and complain it's your fault.

[@ildoamaro2462]

pq os americanos tem essa manina de falar sem parar em videos!

[@primozhorvat8096]

Wait, he was driving with you in real time? 😧😧

[@Hani_Santa]

yes Max loves Iracing

[@Marco-bh9im]

Help me understand, but if you said the word pandemic or covid how and why would this video be demonetized?

[@raymondchapman5990]

The slowing down then taking off is a big problem on the road side. I have found it to be more of a 'foreign' thing. You won't see that in a real world race cause it is illegal and will result in a penalty. Altho what Max did wasn't as bad as I have seen. I have been in races where the pole car slows to almost a stop then takes off.

[@gabifromhell]

I have seen Hamilton do this many times in F1, he actually does it everytime he is in the lead during SC

[@raymondchapman5990]

@@gabifromhell it's chicken shit racing.

[@sinotnasinotna5861]

why do you have so many fuel? i never played iracing and i dont know if this is standard or... Asseto Corsa i choose haw many fuel i'll carry.

[@olibab84]

It's a fixed setup race, same for everyone

[@ridiculus2]

You mentioned, that the finish driver, was geting the benefit of your slepstream, but when you are behind someone, is not a benefit anymore, is dirty air. By the way, that move of the finish driver was kind of ugly, you had the rigth to be there and he pushed your out. Great content, great driving, i liked it.

[@onsterfelijke]

But his father does drive also with iracing...

[@RBFR01]

What situation?

[@jessewebb5696]

😂 I was in that race but didn’t qualify so I could get my irating up

[@DJustmusicMusic]

Omg I didn't know max was using the "jos verstappen" account. That means I actually raced max couple weeks ago :D

[@m8yplayer1]

cool video ,, greets from amsterdam ,,

[@TobinLeigh]

Thanks for visiting!

[@Skippy-id9yt]

Yes mate...... your just as good as real F1 drivers lol,...put tickets on yourself much.... on and on and on

[@theGoogol]

"Also" a Finnish racing-driver? Ehhhh.

[@TobinLeigh]

I'm so sorry, I shouldn't have said such blasphemy:( dont take away my sponsorships pls

[@maxdevries4849]

Lol wtf ?

[@darcyyule3837]

I came to the comment section looking for this comment😂😂

[@theGoogol]

@@TobinLeigh : In some ways it's a compliment ^_^ Nothing wrong with the Finnish, ey Mr. Hakkinen?

[@TobinLeigh]

@@theGoogol I'm legit confused, could someone explain? 😂 When I said "also", I meant that he was "also" a racing driver, rather than a Finn - understand how it may have come across like I'm clueless though

[@torchbearer3784]

Can't even say "the word" is ridiclous. Why is that one can wonder? Anyway great video!!

[@zacharycardoso1681]

What was the word that would get you demonetized? Covid?

[@xpanderino]

#beACC !!

[@ukps9632]

Bait and switch. You may click away after 5mins

[@TheChadd1738]

Was this fixed sets?

[@adeelraza2337]

1st of all his Dad also plays iRacing and most probably him also and F1 driver and 2nd you lost a lot time by not taking the racing lines properly in and out of the turns... losing time on curves as well on straights for that reason.. You were basically just hugging the apexes from start the end of the turns which is not always faster without planing your entries or exits of the turns. F1 drivers do that perfectly Max does is so well even Straight line speed rocket engines Mercs find it hard to catch up to him.

[@PetrisonRocha]

How can you be sure it wasn't Jos? Doesn't he play iracing ever?

[@TobinLeigh]

This particular weekend, Max was 100% on the Jos account so that he could race without affecting the rating of his main account, "Max Verstappen". He was live streaming whilst on this account, i should have included footage but you will have to take my word for it:)

[@PetrisonRocha]

@@TobinLeigh I believe you. It would still be cool if it was Jos anyway.

[@grabiasseb]

To be honest apart of being alien how to get to this events with really top drivers, cuz not everyone there is a pro racing driver is it?

[@VK-dt7hn]

Sebastian G high irating

[@tehgusbus2716]

@@VK-dt7hn but which class?

[@BladeRunner031]

You must be in the top split.Now,it all depends on how many drivers sign up for the race.If it's just a few splits, maybe 2-3 you can have lower rating and you will be there

[@everythinggaming7938]

max making everyone looks like noobs

[@rcb0683]

Poor touch from Jonas.

[@Themagic]

You should learn with max and don't stop your car in the track at the end...

[@protossjr]

so max races under his fathers name?

[@Mandykiss4500]

2 Accounts, he usually uses his Father’s Name Account for Fun, not Professionally…Both Accounts are his, his Father Hates Sim Driving 😂