CHAMPION (Dravidians) vs EVERY UNIQUE UNIT (Total Resources) | AoE II: DE

The Champion is an infantry unit in Age of Empires II that can be trained at the Barracks once the Imperial Age is reached. It is the final tier in the Militia line.
Cost: 45 Food, 20 Gold
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3 new playable civilizations
Bengalis - Navigate the winding rivers and dense jungles of Bengal as you build a thriving economy to fuel unstoppable armies of elephants. The Bengali unique unit is the Ratha, a sturdy chariot that can switch between melee and ranged attack modes.
Dravidians - Seize control of the lucrative Indian Ocean trade routes and utilize advanced metallurgy as you build one of the wealthiest sea empires of medieval Asia. The Dravidian unique units are the Urumi Swordsman, a warrior wielding a scathing flexible sword, and the Thirisadai, a massive vessel that dominates the high seas.
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[@altansipahi2467]

Champ: i ignore armor Huskarl: what armor are you talking about

[@konstantinriumin2657]

F for teutonic knights and boyars

[@parthn-musicforwork4789]

Aztec champions do defeat Teutonic Knights also in equal resources. Check the video for that made by MikeEmpires

[@thebloodwolf9906]

Champion: I ignore your armor Cataphract: I ignore your life

[@varunmanjunath9123]

14:22 Obuch: I can gradually remove armour Dravidian champion: ignorance is bliss Obuch: Huh? Dravidian champion: Yes, now do exactly that with enemy armour Obuch: ???

[@danmin3051]

It’ll be fun to see Dravidians’ Champion vs Burmese’s 1 on 1, then team fight between Dravidians and Slavs

[@Hardcore_Remixer]

It would be a draw. Dravidian Champions win because they deal a total of 13+4=17 damage, so it takes them 5 hits to deal 85 damage. Burmese deal 13+4+3-(3+1) = 16 damage, so still 5 hits to deal 80 damage. Dravidian ones are better overall because most units usually have 3 or more melee armor in Imperial Age.

[@PLScypion]

Leitis be like: Finaly, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be LEGENDARY!

[@RandomStuffPT]

Wootz steel is bonkers, even halberds are doing 10 dmg per hit

[@Shivathedestroyer04]

But wootz steel is historically accurate so no need to cry about it

[@RandomStuffPT]

@@Shivathedestroyer04 yes, wootz steel was a lightsaber and cut trough late plate armour like butter.

[@Shivathedestroyer04]

@@RandomStuffPT yup

[@varunmanjunath9123]

@@RandomStuffPT Urumi go _swooooosh_ 11 btw, why do you think plate armour is impenetrable? lol... You do realize a mob of villagers can kill the most armoured units in AoE2... How about Druzhina Halberdiers melting multiple Hussars at once? 11

[@RandomStuffPT]

@@varunmanjunath9123 i care more about balance and CIV entity than realism. If we talk about realism, muskets/arquebus would ignore armour by default since gunpowder was the end of heavy cavalery in favour of light cavalery wearing only a thick breastplate. Curass/couraça or something like that

[@facundodelgado4907]

3:23 nooooo hahahaha

[@ditkacigar89ify]

Man, the Aoe2 developers really have a stigma against Teutonic Knights

[@michalsturc7063]

Imagine Chakram Thrower with this tech.

[@cmlcml415]

RIP Boyars and Teutonic Knights

[@Mine4dayzz]

Watching the Ballista Elephant and Chakram Thrower pierce damage was satisfying.

[@theobald_indoaoe]

When you go full barrack units, you save 1070f & 685g due to 50% cheaper barrack upgrades, and you already invest in Wootz Steel upgrade.

[@parthn-musicforwork4789]

They're barely better than Japanese Champions, which btw get their extra attack speed for FREE from FEUDAL age

[@kajetandutkiewicz448]

But not everyone plays as Japanese. Who cares if there are 4 civs that beat them if there are like 40?

[@muker83]

The balista elephants start to win a lot of those battles. It's probably worth checking how would they do now.

[@varunmanjunath9123]

They recently got stronger with better base attack!

[@parthn-musicforwork4789]

Still trash.... need more buffs, elephants as a whole need to take less bonus damage from Halbs. 70 damage per hit is just too much...

[@naturalgodgaming21]

Damn those karambit warriors had me for a second

[@RllXeron]

Only 6 lost matchups correct me if I am wrong: Catas, War elephantos, Jaguars, Balista elephantos, Leitis, Urumi swordsmans. Top 10 resoult, alongside: War elephant, Catas, TK, jaguar warior, aztec champion, Boyar, Paladins, maybe vikings, coustiliers and something else can put a fight like this with no micro. Insane!

[@syogamurthy]

considering all these are unique units needing castle. steel tech looks op but no knights to counter hit and run

[@rajiikha]

they destroyed almost anything (if we count unprotected/microed archer) and cataphracts barely made it.

[@parthn-musicforwork4789]

They're barely better than Japanese Champions, which btw get their extra attack speed for FREE from FEUDAL age

[@TheBikeOnTheMoon]

cataphract barely made it? they absolutely destroy these champ.

[@rajiikha]

@@TheBikeOnTheMoon a lot alive at the end yes, but see their hp bar

[@TheBikeOnTheMoon]

@@rajiikha I saw it, so what? they're out-numbered and wootz steel is OP anyway. That's some formidable performance

[@et34t34fdf]

In a real game though, they won't beat archers, they might be OP against melee, but still bad against ranged units.

[@VickyCruz]

They have fully upgraded arbs, faster firing ele archers(without parthian, bloodlines of course), faster firing skirms also.. if they see anything ranged, they can quickly transfer to range and dominate as well.

[@widodoakrom3938]

Dravidian has strong skirmisher

[@thessop9439]

This is the first time ive seen missionaries being defeated. OP CIV

[@RennieAsh]

They were defeated by those shrismashamaisma riders

[@thessop9439]

@@RennieAsh another op civ

[@varunmanjunath9123]

What! Missionaries lost 90% of the time right? 11

[@varunmanjunath9123]

@@RennieAsh looool "shrismashamaisma" rider... xD Actually, just remember it as "Shri Vamsha" rider! :P

[@varunmanjunath9123]

@D Moll looool

[@TheBikeOnTheMoon]

I don't understand why people think wootz steel is balanced with Urumi swordmen, sure you can have fun but not the players who play against it. This tech should only affect barrack and stable units, not Urumi swordsmen.

[@theunknownfencer6336]

I don't think they should exist in the first place . I mean it makes the Leitis lose their whole purpose

[@TheBikeOnTheMoon]

@@theunknownfencer6336 yeah, ikr. UU is not so unique after all with wootz steel, especially when it affects 5 units.

[@Saltyoven]

Learn to micro crossbows.

[@4_dennyfauzulhakim479]

Archers and mangonels dude. Ever heard of it?

[@TheBikeOnTheMoon]

@@4_dennyfauzulhakim479 I tried, didn't work, their 25% attk speed skirm will just screen the archer to deaths. Mangonel is inconsistent and they are infantries, they don't die to mangonel in one shot, and that is when you hit them

[@arnavnandan]

Mike can you do normal 15 v 15 series? it suits much better when someone has all upgrades and is at pop limit

[@waghprasad]

What? TKs die and Jaguars win ?! Wow, just wow.

[@ricardomelo7274]

No micro

[@ivanlesic3684]

Genitour ignore pierce armor is next

[@divingeagle09]

I love watching TKs dying to champions. Finally the guy with a huge ass sword and late medieval armor wins against the guy with a cool looking cape, a bucket as head armor and the need to clean his sword after each stab.

[@redclaytanto]

I always thought the TK fight animation was a little weird. Unsheath, poke, resheath. Personally I preferred the old animation for the TK.

[@varunmanjunath9123]

bucket-head loooooooooool

[@AuraB00]

@@redclaytanto The old TK attack was slash and stab, right?

[@iqbalvilglez.7305]

3:57 Indian gangsta until he faces "indian"

[@michaelmccarty1327]

Forgot about urumi

[@dankstank110]

I wonder why druzhinga and logistica have such a high cost while this gets a pass

[@varunmanjunath9123]

Logistica gives both trample damage and attack bonus, it costs 800 gold (2 consistently strong effects) Druzhina gives trample damage, it costs 500 gold (1 consistently strong effect) Wootz steel gives ability to ignore armour, it costs 600 gold (1 niche effect worth only against high melee armoured units like Paladin, Boyar, TK, etc) Don't understand what high cost you are referring to... It's more expensive than Druzhina...

[@TheBikeOnTheMoon]

@@varunmanjunath9123 I think you ignored the fact that logistica only affect one unit that's also trained from castles, making this tech ridiculously overprice for what it offers. Not to mention the unit itself is also expensive and the elite upgrade is still insanely overpriced. Meanwhile, wootz steel affects 3 lines of units, and 2 of them are easily trained from generic barracks. Urumi swordman are dirt cheap to train as well. All these combined make wootz steel completely overpowered for the price you pay for it. I absolutely have no idea why this get a pass, p2w I guess.

[@varunmanjunath9123]

@@TheBikeOnTheMoon Nope, the Byzantines are known as a defensive civilization... The point is that you need to take them on before they upgrade everything, that's their civ design, that is why it is so expensive... How does Wootz steel make them OP lol? They just win a few extra matchups. But still lose to anti-infantry.... Dravidians are weak to archers, that's why they get elephant archers and skirmishers. That's how the balance is. If you think a Ligh Cav with no husbandry, bloodlines or plate barding armour is OP, you need to rethink what OP is lol. Dravidians are an infantry/archer civ, this is well-balanced now.

[@TheBikeOnTheMoon]

@@varunmanjunath9123 lol, no, Dravidian are not weak to archer, they have 25% attack speed skirm (not generic skirms) and super attack speed elephant archer (that can take multiple mango shots and ton of archer's arrows). That myth of them being weak to archer is a lie. Try to go against them with your archers and see how well it goes. I'm not gonna try to change your mind how OP wootz steel is if you are already locked into the idea of it being balance. My response would be trying to look at how much value you get from it for the price you pay for again. To be fair, I wouldn't mind wootz steel if it didn't affect Urumi swordmen. As for Byzantine, the point of making cataphract so insanely expensive to invest already defeats the purpose of being defensive. How are you supposed to defend if the one unit is so expensive to invest? that's completely counterintuitive.

[@dankstank110]

@@varunmanjunath9123 technically it's not it still has a cheaper food cost and affects 5 different units compared to druzhina only affecting 2 units while logistica even tho it's the more expensive than the other only buffs 1 unit which already costs an insane amount which makes it even harder to get and a bit of trample damage is still not as strong as ignoring Armor completely

[@syogamurthy]

so what's the counter

[@whitehavencpu6813]

Lel my Leitis and Cataphracts do pretty well, phew. I must remember to get 4 relics tho.

[@evilvitamin]

Actually micro your archers is option one. Gunpowder is good. Otherwise, ignore armor upgrades and spam better than your oppt can.

[@evilvitamin]

Sorry, that was curt of me. The thing is, you don’t counter Champs. Not even normal ones, really. Think about it. If you’re archers, you build a deathball and then you don’t care about anything your oppt does. If you’re Paladins, you outmaneuver them, raid, destroy buildings and isolated groups, etc. “Best Champions in the game” is like being the fastest unicycle rider. It’s cool, but worse than either a biker or a sprinter. Counters to infantry work, but why bother, when not countering the infantry is how you win normally.

[@RandomStuffPT]

Onager right to the kissa. Scorpions also love blobs

[@varunmanjunath9123]

@@evilvitamin Best explanation lol

[@linuxpenguin5365]

indian gang still backing their op tech - give it a break bois

[@user-gm9xd4tc1v]

their imp age unique tech is really OP . Its a game breaker

[@varunmanjunath9123]

Perfusion is also a game breaker if you think about it... War elephants are also game breaker if you think about it... 11

[@youcanthandlethetruth5433]

Lol look at this nationalistic Indian. No it's broken it needs to be fixed. Newsflash the world dosent speak Tamil. It wasn't that OP

[@varunmanjunath9123]

@@youcanthandlethetruth5433 Ah yes, I'm a nationalistic Indian when I say AoE2 Goths and Persians are strong as well... Yeah, I neither speak Gothic German, Farsi or Tamil, deal with it. lol

[@johnvuong5496]

I think the devs should nerf this civilization and remove Blast Furnace because right now it seems the Dravidians are overpowered with this particular unique technology, having all infantry and cavalry with the ability to ignore armour will cause serious gaming balance issues.

[@majungasaurusaaaa]

These tests are of little value. Watch them for entertainment only. Only extensive play by experts could figure out what needs balancing.

[@atharvarajadhyaksha4813]

You have to remember that there is zero micro in these clips. No way a bunch of longbows or chuks or any ranged units are dying to these champions if they can maintain their distance. Cavalry will also have mobility advantage in 9 out of 10 scenarios and that can turn the tides of a battle

[@Saltyoven]

They are terrible in land maps though which 70%+ of maps played are those.

[@ollovicos4538]

@@atharvarajadhyaksha4813 that's why I hate hit and run. This ability should be remove from crossbows and foot bowmen

[@atharvarajadhyaksha4813]

@@ollovicos4538 lol what? Plenty of other effective counters exist already.

[@pt7258]

Give wootz steel to Byzantine cataphract.😆

[@varunmanjunath9123]

lol

[@RandomStuffPT]

Would be overkill and delay catas even more

[@varunmanjunath9123]

@@RandomStuffPT I think that was a joke lol

[@pt7258]

@@RandomStuffPT you got the overkill right though. Lol

[@widodoakrom3938]

Let's make your own civ

Janissaries should have at least 2 more range.

[@quaintserpent]

If wootz steel will stay with us, the champion and halbarfiers upgrades should be taken away

[@varunmanjunath9123]

Actually, remove everything, give only Urumi to Dravidians... 11

[@RandomStuffPT]

Removing blast furnace could balance wootz steel

[@varunmanjunath9123]

@@RandomStuffPT Not really, they're perfect as is. Removing blast furnace tech will make Dravidian stables completely useless...

[@RandomStuffPT]

@@varunmanjunath9123 i find their stables way bellow my horsy needs. I never make one even

[@TheBikeOnTheMoon]

@@varunmanjunath9123 they're already completely useless. Removing blast furnace doesn't change anything

[@XYZ-eo8um]

At this point Dravidians' basic infantry seems OP AF and I think they should nerf them in another patch

[@4_dennyfauzulhakim479]

Wootz steel is hella expensive, came late on imperial age, and dravidian whole land identity is infantry, not much else. Nerfing the tech without adjusting other aspect is harsh on them.

[@frankieseward8667]

Wootz steel nerf please. How about ignores 75% of armor?

[@yoyodude-aoe2726]

How about NO

[@vasu6494]

You do realize there's no hussar even? These infantry are cannon fodder for the onagers.

[@sylvaingoudreau7189]

How about ignores base armor?

[@Tocaraca]

Why does it need a nerf? These champs perform pretty much the same as Aztec ones, except against TKs and boyars, and both Teutons and Slavs have other options to counter Dravidian champs.

[@parthn-musicforwork4789]

They're barely better than Japanese Champions, which btw get their extra attack speed for FREE from FEUDAL age

[@thessop9439]

This has to be a fucking joke

[@parthn-musicforwork4789]

They're barely better than Japanese Champions, which btw get their extra attack speed for FREE from FEUDAL age

[@thessop9439]

@@parthn-musicforwork4789 are you blind ?