Changes coming to Windsor after viral traffic stop

[@rosalindacruz1490]

Accountability starts with you Chief.

[@Taveren]

This is a completely different reaction that he had earlier did you see the video of him talking about how he wished the lieutenant complied faster...

[@dontaylor7315]

@@Taveren Yes. That told me a lot more about who he is than any image he was trying to project in this clip.

[@juandoe2994]

Maybe the chief is gonna ride the lightning I keep hearing about

[@mcemtpockets1775]

He has to go!

[@joelrobert4053]

the mayor of that town should get fired

[@collinw1353]

Policy changes? How about just teaching your goons to de-escalate instead of go right into attack mode?

[@blueblack2137]

Totally agree, Always excuses for their behavior. Of course they are led by a racist goon who seen no problems with what they did. Anyone in uniform deserves respect like these hyena cops cry for. Get rid of that post Chief.

[@mikeelek9713]

Any police chief also has to contend with the union, which will do its best to get an officer reinstated.

[@mountaintopbob]

This what you get when you hire the mentally disabled. Before given a badge and gun two-year Batchler degree.

[@dennismood7476]

@@mikeelek9713 Simple fix on that. Do NOT accept bS demands in the next contract negotiation.

[@darthgroot4006]

exactly!!! you are 100 percent correct. Almost every video we see where police brutality is involved, the police are escalating the situation within moments of someone not "complying" with an order. It is disgusting to see how many cops are so quick to violence.

[@g.stephens263]

Oh man, he's fighting for that pension! My guess, his days are numbered.

[@ninasimone1207]

Has he should, his arrogance against our armed services is so disrespectful.

[@soundhealer6043]

Any cop who uses the term "ride the lightning" needs to go. Use of this term indicates an eager willingness to deploy this weapon on a fellow citizen. And THAT indicates a person with mental or emotional issues, OR, a sadistic psychopath.

[@LS-wh9rn]

The latter at best

[@sydtopia1]

People who have ridden the lighting before will straight away co-operate. Which is all the military guy had to do.

[@cherylpursell199]

Agreed. Control freaks trying to escalate situations. Not all cops just the few that have mental issues.

[@antoineharel6923]

Fire that chief....he needs to go now....

[@realbrooklyn7995]

There will always be a problem when you have to write policies and procedures in order get folks with guns and badges to treat people with respect. Seems like common sense to me.

[@dontaylor7315]

It would just be common sense if the rank and file officers easily understood concepts like "people'" and "respect." Absent that capacity, the only way to regulate them might be with written instructions. Of course, even that route might not work if the chief also has difficulty grasping those concepts.

[@billkaldem5099]

Spence? Haven’t seen much of that in law enforcement lately

[@kennethmark8261]

YOU CAN TRAIN THEM AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. WITH NO ACCOUNTABLE THERE WILL BE NO DIFFERENCE IN WHAT THEY DO. ELUCIDATION AND ELABORATION WITHOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ACTION IS A CONSTITUTION FOR CONTRADICTION. CHARGE THE POLICE AND TAKE AWAY THEIR PENSION AND RETIREMENT.. ONLY THEN THEY ARE GOING TO ACT CIVIL..

[@tonycampbell9626]

I agree but that’s not going to happen. Qualified immunity needs to be dismantled.

[@rahulvinalnarayan9743]

Very well said. I couldn’t agree with you more Kenneth.

[@blackredneck4378]

Why are you yelling?

[@bobswanson8464]

Wow, the Chief is being "Two Faced" now is trying to save his own job. He first thought the "First Actions" of the officer were correct, but the officer's missed an opportunity to de-escalated. He ONLY fired him because of the "Viral Video", this is why ALL video cams should be accessible by the public at any time AND you should ALWAYS film your interactions with police.

[@princevirdi1340]

Chief should get fired first whatever he is doing now to fix this problem he should do that in December now the video is viral now he let go only one officer The other officer needs to go too The the chief They were all just covering each other

[@ricardomarin1844]

I agree with you

[@tonycampbell9626]

Take down the big fish and the gang is weakened.

[@125ZJK]

All they need to do is sit all their officers in that empty hall and teach them about decency. The chief needs to sit in on the lecture too.

[@charliecurtis5721]

The same chief who said, he's not apologizing to the soldier because he thinks the officers did good and followed policies.

[@garyholt4445]

The Chief only fired the officer with the anger management problems after the video went viral on You Tube and still thinks his officers did nothing wrong. Attitude starts at the top and if that is the Chief's attitude, little wonder his subordinates are following his example.

[@cherylpursell199]

Bye Bye Chief. Any pension you would have received is now going to the soldier. Rightly so…

[@johnbacon1082]

The Chief needs to go! The entire Department needs a training stand down and review from top to bottom!

[@ricardomarin1844]

Fire that chief

[@jasonswift8918]

$25, 000 for training is not the answer. The younger officer lied on his report and the fired officer was comfortable approaching the Lt. and signing, 'Riding the Lighting'. The only difference was the bodycam. See what people are doing day in and day out.

[@John-cq9ew]

What did he lie about?

[@robertgosney5657]

@@John-cq9ew how about the Army Lutenant did not have his tags displayed even though they were properly displayed and visible in the back glass in accordance with the Law for 1 along with several other details involving the traffic stop including the Lutenant behavior and lying about the police officers behavior and actions they took. In long and short of it the police officers "report" was nothing but a fabricated piece of science fiction.

[@4catsnow]

There's probably some changes coming to the insurance premium for this bustling metropolis after their carrier writes the check..

[@andrewparker4663]

What this town needs is new leadership starting with the chief and build on that.

[@robertgosney5657]

And the fact this Chief still has a job after all this time and his attempts to defend the police officers actions and attempts to blame the army Lutenant for this mabye that town needs to select a different mayor at the next election as well.

[@jh2459]

I don't think this is the first time this happen they were very comfortable at what they was doing.They was never recorded before

[@walt9940]

How do you fix the obvious!?! Such a state of denial.

[@Calvin7007]

Chief Should Be Fired Along With Officers. Then They Train Their Officers Better 🤔

[@lucygrace1193]

They clearly need training on the law & the constitution as well!

[@dremartilino6215]

Chief looks like he already had enough donuts for the day

[@joyfuljoyful6598]

The skill set is to get rid of the unskilled police chief

[@larryhammond5907]

try this: every year, cops have to take and pass a basic constitution test, as it relates to police interactions with the public. Things like, when you can or can not require ID, or when you can or can not un-holster your gun. Then, when they break those rules, they can't say they didn't know, or their training didn't cover that. There is a record of them knowing. This effectively removes qualified immunity without having to pass some kind of law to that effect. That means when they get sued, they pay instead of the city or department. It's called personal accountability, and it is what is severely missing from policing and must change.

[@orlandocastillo684]

You don’t need to hire people to tell your officers that treating ppl with respect while maintaining vigilance of the dangers associated with police work is all you need. I just solved your issues in 2 sentences, police need to police eachother as well... be your brothers keeper because you never know what the other person has gone thru on any given day and in a matter of seconds, brash decisions can be life altering!!!

[@tehscope9422]

Fire the chief .

[@timoanez4668]

Well start by getting rid off the chief, and bringing back the traditional uniform look and maybe have a physical agility standard with semi annual physical agility testing along with departmental policy training and training in the use of force.

[@notfunny5013]

Chief never seen a traffic stop like that before, really? I am sure he done plenty himself.

[@davidzuelke8599]

you havent seen a stop like that in 10 years but they happen all the time. just cause you dont ALWAYS see the video of the lying bad cop doesnt mean they are not out there.

[@isadorealire5722]

Attitude reflects leadership. How about open discussions about not escalating situations and listening to people instead of yelling over them as they try to respond to a question.

[@davidcjones3100]

THANK GOD IT WAS RECORDED.

[@agathayoung1893]

I've often traveled on route 13 going to Virginia Beach, and it's a known fact that all those little small towns are speed traps for tourists from out of town. The speed limit jumps from town to town. And if you're even 5 miles over, they're hiding somewhere waiting to ticket you. I was always warned to go under the speed limit and be very careful. They have to line their pockets somehow.

[@bezerkfpv624]

Management needs to stand down and recruit new officers

[@stormXviper]

Technology needs to step up. We need a high-speed live streaming video camera for a police pursuit. While it is on recording and cannot be tampered or edited. This is to make sure that the cop can't do any harm because they are being coached throughout the process of any interaction.

[@cloutchaser8842]

This is a really good idea

[@justicejustice6391]

What happens to COMMON SENSE and tell cops to DEEXCELATE on NONVIOLENCE CRIMES, like traffic tickets?

[@robertgrainger4131]

Isnt this the Gestapo Chief that first said his Gestapo's actions were justified, isn't he the Gestapo chief that covered up this incident, isn't this the Chief that blamed the LT for what happened to him, isn't this the chief that thought he had deleted this whole encounter only to find out it wasn't...

[@jerrygereckegod8224]

This has nothing to do with training! Both of these gangsters with badges need prison time.

[@richardashton9255]

What I can't believe is the amount of gas sprayed . Even the cop shaking the can getting the last bit of gas out of the can. 3 or 4 times shaking and spraying . What a statistic person . He is a danger to the general public. The second cop didn't intervene. God help the public in the future. ....

[@ballax4900]

Fire this Police Chief

[@frederickbabb8884]

ALL ONES HAS TO DO NOW IS MAKE IT THROUGH THE WEEK.

[@acabf1275]

It's not hard to be civil

[@michaelmurphy5916]

Here's a policy for you. An in depth FBI screening of all potential officers before you can hire them.

[@jh2459]

There a lot of dark roads out there I wouldn't have felt safe where there is no lights

[@coreyagomes]

You haven’t seen it or there were no videos of them

[@mikeoman2]

A new police chief is the first hing the community should consider.

[@SOLDbyYOU]

New policy…. “If you plan on escalating an encounter make sure that your body cams are turned off”

[@takeahike2000]

How about firing the police chief. His attitude and lies, coverup about the facts about the incident create an environment in which members of his force feel free to act the way they do. The first bad action was calling it a felony traffic stop. How about giving Officer Conner an eye exam.

[@12spackle]

Weekly meetings cannot undo what's already been done. Chief Rodney Riddle Needs 2 Go! This would be my 1st step if I were Mayor!

[@Nobody-gc8lu]

THE FIRST CHANGE MUST BE, THAT POLICE CHIEF SHOULD AND MUST RESIGN!!!!!!! BAFFOON!

[@riptoff433]

He's never seen a traffic stop like that in all his years on the force. He says that on camera too. That just tells me that he doesn't look at any of the body cam footage. It's not so much about policy as it is about knowing what's going on in your department. Or, more likely he is lying through his teeth like usual to protect his criminal gang.

[@Musicman914]

Now all of a sudden you can't believe this terrible thing happened.

[@moemartineau4138]

They shouldn’t accept their resignations that way they wouldn’t get their pensions. You break the law and suffer the same consequences as everyone else.

[@robertkelly5042]

Why is this Police Chief still in place ? , he is now offering the solution to the speeding problem as the answer to him setting loose armed psychos in his community , he is a big part of the problem .

[@randycrager4074]

Here's what would work 100%. Congress in every state pass laws to do away with 'Terry Stops' and Qualified Immunity' require every employed LEO to submit to Psych Evaluation by a qualified Professional NOT affiliated with LEO's or their Union, twice a year and pass the evaluation to remain employed, payed from their own pockets. This will weed out all the Career Criminals with badges. I've only met one good cop and he was fired for not writing enough tickets. The other I thought was good (my X Father in Law) turned out to be a Tyrant like the others he worked with. The problem is they may get into Law Enforcement for the right reasons but there is the Thin Blue Line and the Bad Cops turn the good ones! Why must us Taxpayers be responsible for their Criminality?

[@charlesdavis6975]

Those two police officers should be a shame of themselves , their conduct was unprofessional & Incompetent. . .

[@JerseyFran]

That police chief should resign his comments were a palling this is the 21st century all people have the right to be treated with respect and dignity they pay the officers salary and to try and justify what those two officers did is ridiculous and I am a retired sheriffs officer from Newark New Jersey all people deserve respect color of their skin should not matter

[@mcxx871]

Some policemen do not need training, they need humanity.

[@xandervk2371]

Most of them, looks like.

[@peterrouleau5992]

Don’t ever pass through Windsor unless you like being violated by bullies.

[@David-xt4uw]

That's some BULLSHITE they need to replace the chief.asap.

[@dizzydope4162]

So this man held a chance for community members to show up and voice there concerns and not one single person did ... Wow I wonder why those police officers were out of control 😂😂

[@shawnmceachin720]

They won't. Police acting in full conpasity

[@bwtv147]

What police department currently employs Joe Gutierrez?

[@Bentriverrusher]

25 grand to hire people to do the job he was hired to do? That is his great plan? They need another chief.

[@lawnpro979]

sooo, they cant do there job, and its going to cost us more money ???

[@afghans0ldier]

This police chief have failed the duty of his office long time ago. He needs to go. He was the one not letting go of the officer in first place. Until the video went viral and he had to act to save his own skin.

[@ronbarnes687]

Department policy doesn't include harassment for a minor traffic violation. Telling a person, please should be required to use common since before reacting and put their selves in the other persons shoes.

[@garytate2947]

The other police knew it was wrong,then talk to soldier and try to justify it………

[@TCJC1213]

This police chief is responsible for his teams actions. He should be fired and sent to review training.

[@marinerssagrado7144]

You don't need to change sir, you need to be better!!

[@jasminhj2271]

Little TOO late.

[@Fantazier1]

Empty meeting. Apathy in the community. That's disgusting.

[@jaycole4203]

This good Ole boy needs to go. Fire Chief Riddle. Definitely part of the problem.

[@cherrell-wo2gp]

Change policies? Or change people? Which one is most necessary?

[@Djeispark]

If the chief refused to issue a public apology on behalf of his department for the violations and misconduct of his officers then say that "The situation was handled well" and starts victimblaming the Lt. Then the chief needs to go too. Start the department all over again with a fresh start and WELL TRAINED OFFICERS. No one wants to go because he's not trying to really fix anything.

[@Gambet7021]

Most law enforcement officers should attend some form of de-escalation training in a continuing education program. Grade them after a practical test. A passing C grade will require that officers repeat the training AND attain a B grade or higher. Repeats resulting in Cs confirms that they are in the wrong line of work...

[@pdiddly4040]

Top down structural change is the ONLY way, chief is responsible for oversight of EVERY action his officers take. He should be held doubly responsible. A 4 hour online course does not solve racism. This is a joke.

[@Harley08]

Racism has always been and will always be. It’s a learned behavior passed on. Noting will change or solve racism.

[@lin_6x579]

The hiring panel seemed like a good idea

[@jesstreloar7706]

When the LT. didn't pull over as soon as the lights came on, he was defying the authority of the badge. Disrespecting the officer. A majority of police officers believe it is 'US', the blue gang, against 'Them', all others. Respect is earned. What I saw was ego and fear. The Lt. feared for his life and put both hands outside the vehicle. The young police officer has his gun drawn, his firearm! That is fear also. If he is going to be afraid to pull people over he shouldn't be in law enforcement.

[@kimberleyjones8446]

I thought you chief said you thought your officer did nothing wrong, BUT HE DID

[@rippingred5265]

This Chief takes no responsibility for the actions of his officers. He stood behind them and said they did the right thing yet he fired one go figure. He needs to be the first in line to be fired after everybody involved in that atrocious traffic stop. Windsor you really need to clean out your PD are there going to break you taxpayers.

[@kimkrebs7979]

What’s so hard about making cops accountable with real punishments? Make cops pay for malpractice insurance out of their own paychecks

[@boatsrich3734]

In my opinion the only strategy the chief of police needs to do is resign. His officers behavior on the street is his responsibility in my opinion.

[@suestazz3292]

Chief also needs to resign, sugar coating it . Your Reputation is gone. No apology from you or the tyrant. Sad policing.

[@leogirl9290]

What a POS chief, worried about the towns reputation for speed traps??? REALLY??? How about owning what your officers did to that young military officer? This chief does indeed need to be fired!

[@rahulvinalnarayan9743]

The best change would be to fire the Chief of Police who is clearly not suited for the job

[@fredbright2096]

The chief can say all he wants to about changing his towns reputation, but it will always be though of just like Colonial Heights outside of Richmond, a speed trap with a bunch of snarky cops who love nothing better than writing tickets. I have driven thru Windsor for over 50 years on my way to Lynchburg, and I can tell you, it has not changed. When you come into Windsor on route 460, either way, you better be sure your documents are in order and you stay under the speed limit, because there is always a cop lurking in the food lion lot or one of the other businesses, waiting for someone who is unaware of where he is. This one bad cop just brought to light something that has been going on for years.

[@ryarbrough1195]

These cops remind me of the Cool Hand Luke prison warden.

[@oxyfee6486]

Taking it off here boss.

[@rambojojo]

It's all small talk.,in the end, the chief is not going to do anything that curtail the problem. It will only take a huge lawsuit settlement for any kind of serious accountability fixes.

[@josephconner3742]

Defund, terminate and prosecute.

[@panteleimonorfanos]

No matter if it's right or wrong matter fact it's reality. I don't know the laws in the USA but in Europe only the military police are allowed to arrest a member of the military This alone justifies a lawsuit against the police headquarters.

[@SyedAli-xm1yq]

They need to get rid of the chief.. this guy is the problem.. all he had do is say I am sorry we made a huge mistake and we will get this fix.. saying sorry doesn't mean you lost a paycheck..

[@tmeu]

I keep hearing, "extra training is required". Aren't the officers well trained even before going on the beat? Exactly what kind of "extra training"? Just curious.

[@klausstimpy2292]

Like when to turn off body/vehicle cams? Or how to lie better on reports? Or kill before abusing?

[@veramae4098]

Part of the earliest investigation showed that the Windsor Town Council depends on the police department to bring in money -- charging out of town drivers and creating fines to bring in money. I would bet this town also depends on "civil asset forfeiture", stealing cash from citizens.

[@DHFlip18]

You don't need special skill sets to not abuse power and to not be a bully... most of your problems will go away when the police exercise patience, respect and care for the community instead of barking orders at them. Teach your "dogs" to remain calm.

[@escormillos]

Fire the Chief; Problem solved. An no pension, that should tell the rest of the so called police officers , treat people with respect, bulling will only give problems to the police officers.

[@michelleabad1874]

At first this police chief said the cops did a good job, did nothing wrong. Now he's saying he's never seen a traffic stop like that before and things need to change. Guess he realized it's time for him to do the old "Gotta try and save my job song & dance." Does he still have a job??

[@jhonny2477]

Also this been happening since the 50s when is the Goverment going to step in and end this abuse of civilians ,when are these cops going to give respect to The Civilians ,we are not your dogs .

[@claudettewright5649]

This chief must be fired he’s tone deaf

[@Karlojezo92]

What reputation?????

[@mikep.473]

This police chief needs to be fired why was the meeting empty?

[@mccabeianenator]

May we ask why the people of WINDSOR should pay an outside agency/company $25,000 to teach police policy? If/when policemen behave unlawfully by causing another man injury/ damage/loss/harm, then THEY are liable for THEIR actions. Please remember that the police are NOT volunteers.......the people of WINDSOR are ALREADY paying them. Do the people & police of WINDSOR need an outside agency to teach them decency, honour, standards, ethics, manners, civility ? May we ask whom is it that equates POLICY... with LAW?

[@RevoRob007]

I wish someone would post Joe Guiterrez' address on line. He needs to be paid a visit.