"Here is what we want you to think." - Channel 4 News
@tylermoth98375 жыл бұрын
Zia Smith you fucking weirdo
@crforfreedom74075 жыл бұрын
@Zia Smith I'm more interested in finding your address. I'm hoping to meet you very soon...
@crforfreedom74075 жыл бұрын
@Ian Murray LOL!! You assume much young Jedi. You know what happens when we A.S.S. U. M.E. don't you? Regardless, male or female, I can't help but think it to be a lively chat...
@crforfreedom74075 жыл бұрын
@Ian Murray Try me.
@crforfreedom74075 жыл бұрын
@Ian Murray Besides. Aren't you a believer in women's equality? Sexist neanderthal...
@fawsteren6 жыл бұрын
How about the fact that the sentence that sent tommy to prison, has been ruled illegal.... did you report this channel 4 ?
@OneThousand985 жыл бұрын
No it hasn’t.
@OneThousand985 жыл бұрын
mikael englund lol the only thing fake is Tommy Robinson’s name.
@ianosborne1885 жыл бұрын
Tommy Was And IS!! Highlighting a Very serious and Threatening Problem to The UK and The WORLD!!! Allan's SNACK BAR!!!! FREE TOMMY NOW!
@RyanSp895 жыл бұрын
@Will Derby No that's a lie.
@RyanSp895 жыл бұрын
@Will Derby Just because media parrot the same thing doesn't mean it's the truth. The judges involved in that part of the "case" say otherwise.
@hanna5546 жыл бұрын
Nobody should ever be jailed for standing on a sidewalk in front of a courthouse unless the government is tyrannical.
@tomlangford19996 жыл бұрын
That is objectively not what he was arrested for
@tomlangford19996 жыл бұрын
Big Pun No. He was arrested for endangering the trial of a group of rapists by breaching a judicialy imposed Reporting restriction, making it harder for them to be convicted for the disgusting crimes they committed He was previously given a warning for doing the exact same thing, he broke that warning and pleaded guilty for contempt of court
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
He was NOT "standing on a sidewalk in front of a courthouse". He harassed people entering the court and livestreamed it, which is Contempt of Court!
@Tetemovies46 жыл бұрын
+Tom Langford He wasn't endangering anything, they had already been sentenced. You don't arrest people for reporting on that unless you really hate basic human rights
@Ja_ck006 жыл бұрын
Tetemovies4 They hadn't been sentenced.
@lorraineedwards58355 жыл бұрын
The muslims he spoke to respectfully outside court had already been convicted. He couldn't have possibly unhinged any proceedings...
@neoepicurean37725 жыл бұрын
Just to correct. The verdict had already been reached, but the defendants or Tommy didn't know that as they were arriving that day to hear the verdict.
@neoepicurean37725 жыл бұрын
@SamS If you look at the judgement that wasn't really the angle they charged Tommy on. It wasn't about releasing restricted information by reporting, as he didn't do that. It was by being there reporting 'in general' - but the main contempt was intimidating the defendants and causing them anxiety. You might hear this linked trial thing in the media a lot, but it didn't play a major factor, as the verdict had been arrived at, and he didn't release any information. The trials went ahead as planned. Many times main stream media has released information that blatantly broke the restrictions and actually collapsed the trial, at huge expense and distress, such as in the Milly Dowler case. Only fines we issued for that which set a precedent. If they wanted Tommy locked up they had to take the intimidation route. I studied the case for a university project, that's why I know the details. I'm neutral, and I'd say that this was extremely rough justice for Tommy. And he has no chance of appeal as it was the first ruling by a new High Court judge. No chance her peers will overrule that decision. They had to find him guilty or Tommy would be able to sue the state for wrongful imprisonment, which the couldn't face... So he was found guilty before this re-trial started. It's not a good moment in our rich legal history.
@jakoflynn25605 жыл бұрын
A breath of intelectual fresh air ....good comment ... what you say is fact what C4 say is wrong as it omits context. Why is it far right to object to organised child rape by a clearly defined group of adherents to a Middle Eastern Faith?
@tommytango98955 жыл бұрын
GREAT COMMENT LORRAINE
@AbCdEfGhIjKlMnO19875 жыл бұрын
Makes no difference. The reporting ban ends when the court says, not Alias Tommy Robinson.
@thezeitgeist39976 жыл бұрын
He was sentenced to 13 months without having access to his own lawyer and without a jury.
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
It was a Contempt of Court hearing where he pleaded guilty. No trial required. He had a barrister of 16 years experience in defending serious crimes such as rape and murder.
@thezeitgeist39976 жыл бұрын
So someone can be sentenced to 13 months in prison without a trial if the offence relates to Contempt of Court? I highly doubt that is true.
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
If they pleaded guilty at the hearing, which he did, then yes. There is no need for a trial, pretty obvious really.
@thezeitgeist39976 жыл бұрын
Well if someone pleads guilty then a trial is still required.
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
Nope, not at a Contempt of Court hearing.
@trailersfromhell25396 жыл бұрын
This is not me taking position on anything, just asking questions: 1. The media, BBC among them, had already reported on the crimes and named all the defendants, despite the reporting restrictions 2. There are several other recordings of the proceedings outside this court on the very same trial at earlier stages far, far more aggressive where defendants are named, shown pictures of, and where protestors are screaming in anger at them as they walk in. And the police is present. Why is this okay, while Robinson's rather mundane footage is problematic? 3. Is it the media's responsibility to prevent the jury from being prejudiced when the cost is a limit on free speech (yes, restrictions on reporting is a limitation on free speech) - this would never happen in the US. Following this logic, it would be impossible to have *any* trial with prominent figures. It would be impossible to have had OJ's trial. 4. isn't it problematic that someone can be arrested and have the media being prevented by government to report on it? 5. How often are people given a 10 month sentence on contempt (not counting the 3 months from the previous sentence)?
@StuartOswald6 жыл бұрын
TrailersFromHell the trail was already concluded. The rapists were already found guilty and were turning up for sentencing.
@Kiers846 жыл бұрын
Stuart Oswald nope, the case was and still is active.
@dannybrook64066 жыл бұрын
Number 4 is my biggest concern, they jailed him in secret. Why but more importantly how? Who gives these powers to the judges, I think laws need to change.
@Kiers846 жыл бұрын
Danny Brook nope. The video explains this
@barrymchugh6676 жыл бұрын
you do understand Tommy was very biasedly reporting on it? cool, so this is the problem he is publicly reporting on a court trial with an obvious bias that can influence the jury and if it seems that that the jury have been influenced by material outside of the evidence given to them the defendants can claim that they have been given an unfair trial because it is outside information not directly pertaining to evidence provided in the case. Tommy has previously been done for contempt of court he knows how it works. this law has been the case for years and years without much slipery slope it maintains that every case is fair and the jury is impartial while the case is ongoing. he plead guilty
@spenser99086 жыл бұрын
This hasn't aged well lol, seeing as it turned out Tommy WAS wrongfully imprisoned.
@17sunnyhour6 жыл бұрын
@Bill Murray from The Man Who Knew Too Little They were trying to slience him!
@Nyle955 жыл бұрын
And now it’s going to happen again
@oldieal70325 жыл бұрын
This comment hasn't aged well. The retrial showed that Tommy WAS rightfully imprisoned.
@OneThousand985 жыл бұрын
Nope. He got out on appeal under a technicality, pending a retrial. Retrial happened, still guilty. Back to chokey he goes! 👍
@RyanSp895 жыл бұрын
@@oldieal7032 that's a lie, sorry.
@nrqed5 жыл бұрын
Instead of presenting the FACTS, they start by attacking him...
@ThatGuy-lv7hf Жыл бұрын
Facts here means tommy's propaganda so no
@nrqed Жыл бұрын
@@ThatGuy-lv7hf Lol, I guess that facts bother you so you just choose to call them propaganda.
@ThatGuy-lv7hf Жыл бұрын
@@nrqed no , i dont. im calling out lies that is called facts by some loony. not worth debating a tommy fan though the'yre as dense as commies
@oldmanstoner41536 жыл бұрын
Sounds like propaganda to me!
@patdent2 күн бұрын
Well, if you're too thick to understand a careful explanation of the law of our country, there's not much hope for you.
@stuntmanmike63306 жыл бұрын
Looked a bit uncomfortable reporting that mate. Is it because you missed most of the story out to keep your job?
@amigomac57904 жыл бұрын
Stuntman Mike...Words Well Spoken My Friend...Words Well Spoken.
@paulrimmer89956 жыл бұрын
A one sided story of course, but what do you expect from Channel 4. No fair debate of course, just Channel 4 and their stooges. The same old same old!
@mordant2216 жыл бұрын
That's why it's called fake news my friend.
@drpk65146 жыл бұрын
It had nothing to do with freedom of speech: watch?time_continue=366&v=jys7jbVccrU
@donnrutherford70596 жыл бұрын
Does your head in the way they are struggling to tell it as they say it is by law and trying to make it look like the law itself isnt flawed in any way
@nswblues15806 жыл бұрын
Same with right wing outlets, no debates same old same old
@marshallmatters15265 жыл бұрын
A court judge said there would have been no way he could have affected the trial seeing as it had concluded at an earlier date.
@patdent2 күн бұрын
Name the judge that said that.
@connorsdad18416 жыл бұрын
But didn't Tommy just talk about details that were already out in the public domain due to the national press?
@leighlowe1069 Жыл бұрын
He did nothing more, nothing less.
@iexist6021 Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@sebz7610 Жыл бұрын
@@iexist6021they wanted to make an example out of him, they don't want a bunch of Tommys filming outside their court house
@sammichwench24756 жыл бұрын
Sorry, no one's buying this
@alexanderchan765 жыл бұрын
People who understand the law are.
@StonedNinjaLUFC5 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderchan76 I understand that they'll use it where they can and break it where they can't if you believe otherwise because you're a law student or something only time will wake you up.
@@oldieal7032 OOPS - it shows the criminal justice system is deeply corrupt and the law of rule no longer exists in the UK, especially for independent journalists exposing Muslim child gr00ming and r-p- gangs. It was a political trial driven by the Attorney General, a Cabinet Minister appointed by the pandering and treacherous Theresa May, known for her stupidity. It is an attempt to stamp down on speaking the truth. Sadly, bringing in the third world, Britain is starting to become the third world, with its associated corruption and cronyism.
@GalacticWoman6 жыл бұрын
So how come 7 other reporters live streaming outside the court and filming the defendants walking into it were not arrested too ?
@JaspalloMusician6 жыл бұрын
They were not prejudicial, and remained impartial!
@gertrude7736 жыл бұрын
GalacticWoman One reporter (an independent sihk man who's report is on youtube) actually called them "rapists"... didn't even use the word alleged which Tommy did. They also recorded during the trial and not after summary, again unlike Tommy who filmed on verdict day so could not have influenced that outcome. Fact of the matter is Tommy has a huge audience in comparison to the others so needs shutting up according to the knobs of society. Now that this has been highlighted though, the sihk reporters video has been seen over 30.000 times. Still no arrest. So all the Tommy haters saying he got what he deserves..... I call bullshit!! He's been treated unfairly and victimised otherwise others would have been arrested. FACTS... VERIFIABLE FACTS TOO.
The people arguing they were not being prejudiced I don't think have looked at the evidence or the other streamers, they have made there mind up and just like the media wants will stick to there opinion even if better information arises to prove them wrong, pointless exercise mate even showing the guys name and link to his video won't be enough to change there mind. He was arrested for breach of the peace anyway not contempt of court as the jury had already made there decision so this video is misleading and incorrect, his appointed solicitor wanted him to plead guilty as believed this would likely lead to only a fine.
@stevemccambridge59476 жыл бұрын
Noneofurbusiness ! How is it "predjucicial" (prejudicial*) when there is irrefutable evidence that there is a disproportionate amount of Muslims in rape grooming gangs? And also, irrefutable evidence that the state and the police were complicit in covering up this fact. That's not prejudice, that's POSTjudice.
@MartinFranz35 жыл бұрын
Instead of protecting him because he's telling the truth, they lock him up, twisted world
@macraem41724 жыл бұрын
Del Boy how
@d.j.wellington4 жыл бұрын
@@del2665 Lol it looks like YOU didn't understand a simple word. They were asking how is he a "habitual criminal"? Meaning: What did he do that makes you call him that???...
@EhradioCanada6 жыл бұрын
I absolutley disagree YOU ARE WRONG The public SAY YES you are wrong
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
Can you point out where the video is factually incorrect?
@EhradioCanada6 жыл бұрын
YEh as someone else said there were others videoing it nothing happened to them this CAME from the very TOP PM and Home Secretary they will rue the day they did this POLL TAX 2
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
Filming people entering a court is not Contempt of Court when done off the court grounds. So nothing would happen to them. Had Tommy Robinson only shot a video of them like the alleged others did, then he wouldn't be in prison. So again, can you point out where the video is factually incorrect?
@Jon-mh9lk6 жыл бұрын
Fred Bloggs The BBC had already reported on this case before Tommy did it. Tommy just did the same. He never entered the court building. The media ban came after Tommy was arrested. The first time Tommy was arrested for contempt of court, he had been reporting on the case outside of the building, but still on the outdoor staircase towards the entrance of the building. His first conviction already was unfair.
@Junglecat036 жыл бұрын
Point me to the BBC report shouting "Got your prison bag ready, you're going to need it." How stupid can you get? He was on a suspended sentence of 3 months which would instantly come into force should he do this again. He did it again. Ape self-harms. You could argue that idiots self-harming should be just thrown in jail earlier for protection from their own stupidity. I think you have to give them a chance to learn and when they don't, as Robinson didn't, then you throw the fools in jail. It's a burden on us all as tax payers and of course we'd rather not produce these idiots but sometimes incarceration is the only solution.
@TudorsTigers6 жыл бұрын
Now for your next video: Tommy Robinson has been released from prison & this is why.
@roland200020005 жыл бұрын
They never made that video, can't think why!
@alexanderchan765 жыл бұрын
Stephen is now back on trial and there is every chance that he will be back in prison in no time. He nearly jeopardized the trial and nearly brought about the release of the paedophiles, which is why I find it ironic that you lot are supporting him. Do you also want to see the paedophiles released?
@alexanderchan765 жыл бұрын
@@TheTruth-uy4kp Thats just not true. He was filming outside the court case and live-streaming it openly breaking the law which says that judges, defendants and witnesses cannot be filmed within certain parameters of the court. The uproar would have been big, but it would have only been down to Stephen himself. For the defendants would have argued that everything was biased against them and that they didn't get a fair trial. Everything would have been thrown out, the victims wouldn't have seen justice served with orders of a new trial at the expense of taxpayers, the victims and the public in general. As part of fair trials, we don't allow broadcasting of certain cases so as to not bias the jury. Forensics do't matter so long as it looks like the jury is being biased. Stephen didn't "expose" anything. He merely broke the law. The people who exposed it were the victims and the Lawyers who worked tirelessly to see that this was put to a stop. This also includes the judge who imprisoned Stephen. I seriously suggest you watch this video. It's obvious that you far right people just don't know how the law works. Also, you do know that the ring leader in this case was a Sikh right?
@TheTruth-uy4kp5 жыл бұрын
He did exactly what all the mainstream reporters have done to him outside his court case with reporting restrictions, mainstream news was daily comentating online when they shoudlnt trying to demonise tommy, tommy had cameras in his face as he left his court case whilst being asked about the case, with reporting restrictions, will itv reporters get solitary confinement?.. No..anyone exposing mass rape gangs is a hero, sort ur fukin head out lol
@TheTruth-uy4kp5 жыл бұрын
Far right ahahaha. This guy must work for bbc
@cdwg2735 жыл бұрын
Contempt of court is usually settled with a fine , not solitary confinement. End of story.
@iangascoigne82315 жыл бұрын
Christian Dowell It was the second time he had done it. Since he was under suspended sentence it was inevitable he would be jailed. As was explained in the film.
@ruthbashford31764 жыл бұрын
@@iangascoigne8231 so why was he released early!
@ruthbashford31764 жыл бұрын
@@del2665 And you are a liar!
@iangascoigne82314 жыл бұрын
ruth bashford He was originally released on appeal on a technicality because it was deemed that the Judge hadn’t followed the correct procedure. Then it went back to court and he was sent back to prison to serve his original sentence as he should. If he’d done this after the time period of the suspension had expired he may not have gone to prison at all. I don’t even know if he’s still in prison if he has been released early it will be because of good behaviour. Not because of some imagined miscarriage of justice. If prisoners behave unless it’s a serious crime it’s rare for them to serve more than half their sentence. As I said in my original comment, if you watch the film it’s all explained. But since you obviously worship at the alter of St Stephen Yaxley-Lennon you won’t believe it.
@jpbdexv4 жыл бұрын
@@del2665, this is a slander. Yes, he broke the law (nothing really serious) but in these days it is almost a badge of honor since so many criminals (slander is a criminal offence) walk around free and write nonsense on You Tube..
@IanClarkeSanity6 жыл бұрын
At 6:33 the journalist claims that "there was never a media blackout on Robinson's conviction, in fact it took a real journalist to fight for the restrictions on Robinson's case to be lifted" Isn't this statement self-contradictory? If there was no blackout why would anyone need to fight for the restrictions to be lifted?
@al2al2alify6 жыл бұрын
Are you gullible? or just one of the dumb down masses?
@jnwms6 жыл бұрын
two things wrong with this, firstly you said that they had ruled that journalist weren't allow to report on the trial until after the jury had reached a verdict, This was a sentencing hearing they had already reached a verdict. Secondly you said he gave his opinion on the defendants, which he didn't he read out the charges that they were facing and added allegedly, admittedly he did get some of them wrong and this was the whole reason he was in contempt of court. But a mistake IMO is not worth 13 months in prison and not being given a fair trial, rushed though court in 5 hours not even given a chance to consult with his own attorney. Please, wake up mate!
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
It isn't one trial. The temporary reporting restriction covers ALL the trials until they are concluded. He harassed people entering a court, that is Breach of the Peace. Livestreaming it is Contempt of Court. He did not receive 13 months, he received 10 months. The 3 months were due to him already being on a suspended sentence for Contempt of Court. Since the maximum is 24 months, then 10 months is reasonable. It was not a trial, it was a hearing and it was not rushed. Contempt of Court hearings take place on the day of arrest. He pleaded guilty and was represented by a senior Barrister of 16 years experience defending serious crimes such as rape and murder. Before telling others to "wake up" you may wish to establish the facts.
@jnwms6 жыл бұрын
I don't see how a reporting restriction covering all trial would make sense as the 3 stages are decoupled, at each stage the defendants of that stage are tried and sentenced/not sentenced. It also wouldn't matter as I am not arguing against the contempt of court. Didn't argue against either breach of the peace or the Contempt. But he was only sentenced based on his previous suspended sentence and the Contempt. Also livesteaming on its own isn't contempt, it's what was said that makes it contempt. yes he did get 10 months for this offence, no one really reports the exact specified why it was considered contempt of court. Ie an actual action or a phase he said. From the best I can make out its from him reading out the charges of the defendants and getting them wrong which if watched by the jury may bias there decision. If you could provide more light on what he actually said that lead to the judgement I would appreciate it. IMO it is rushed, why was it so important to get it done on the day, The police have powers to hold him if they are worried about what he would do on bail. At least he would have time to prepare a proper defence.
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
The trials are not for the same defendants. If a guilty verdict was announced for the first then counsel would argue that the trial of the later defendants was prejudiced by the guilty verdict of the earlier trial for the other defendants facing the same charge. It was livestreaming, which is Contempt of Court for *THIS* case due to the reporting restriction on publishing before ALL the trials are concluded. He pleaded guilty. It was not rushed. As I have already stated, Contempt of Court hearings take place on the day of arrest, this is normal and he pleaded guilty so there was no need for preparation of a defence.
@jnwms6 жыл бұрын
They have already announced the verdicts of the second trial, does that predicate the third? What are the exact words he said that were considered contempt of court? He pleaded guilty under the attorney appointed by the court, he might not of given the chance to converse with his own attorney.
@johndavied34489 ай бұрын
@@fredbloggs8034 Wrong in many ways, he never got the chance to plead at all. That is why he was released.
@RixterNow6 жыл бұрын
Does the UK allow / respect free speach? So what did Tommy actually do that compromised the trial? He didn't report details of the trial.
@andrewoliver89356 жыл бұрын
it does allow free speech(not in the same manner as the US though) however as was outlined, Tommy attended as a reporter - and as such was subject to the same constraints as other reporters who were also there. Had he kept his mouth shut for a little while longer, this whole situation wouldnt exist.
@NibberKSmooth6 жыл бұрын
He pleaded guilty. if you or anyone still think he's innocent you are beyong stupid.
@chiuansheng6 жыл бұрын
New Thought interesting. Have you ever heard “Miscarriage of Justice”? You live in the La La land. You are too innocent to this real world. Kid. The world is way darker than your unicorn imagination. child rape gang leader 3 years but report it 13 months? do you feel innocent now?
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
Miscarriage of Justice? He was already on a suspended sentence for Contempt of Court then did it AGAIN!
@kessiawright17106 жыл бұрын
New Thought Since he wasn't allowed to call his own lawyer and made do with a court appointed one who told him to plead guilty so he could get out and get his lawyer to work things out, I would perhaps say it was a set up.
@uroboroh4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is absolutely crazy propaganda...
@24yrukdesigner4 жыл бұрын
You can REPORT Channel 4 propaganda with the 3 dots to the right as this is spam/misleading information
@bumberClart10004 жыл бұрын
Jan A. Kozák 500000 facist’s 🤦♀️
@jeanclaudejunior4 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't dare put the head of Sadiq Khan on a pike and put it into a corner of a building as a warning to Muslims, Remainers and Climate activists, would you?
@johnmorgan41243 жыл бұрын
Anything you don't like is propaganda. Hurts you sensitive Right-wing snowflakes.
@jeanclaudejunior3 жыл бұрын
Fais attention ce que tu as écrit, sinon j'appelle la police sur toi. Est-ce c'est clair ? Une chose, L'insurrection contre les États-Unis en Janvier le 6 est ta faute et celle de tes théories de complots. Les menaces de mort contre Klaus Schwab, le FEM doivent être arrêtés immédiatement ou j'appelle la police.
@TheTartanPimpernel6 жыл бұрын
When adult males of any colour or religion rape a child, it should be on the front page of every newspaper everywhere. Cliff Richard was all over the press and he didn't even go to court. Tommy Robinson is not the issue here for me. The protection of child rapists (of whatever religion or colour) disgusts me. The council and police in Rotherham and Rochdale covered up what was going on for 40 years and yet still nobody is allowed to talk about it. D-notices are served to not prejudice the case? Why? I don't even like Tommy Robinson, but why are we not protecting our children. The press have totally missed the boat on this one. Tommy Robinson isn't the issue here. The silence of our press and total failure to protect our children is. The protests won't end on this one in my opinion and the UK media are as much to blame as TR himself. The left are screaming Nazi and racist, the right are screaming martyr and champion of freedom of speech....Nobody is talking even 1% enough about the fact that children are being repeatedly raped....Keyboard warriors all....conscience nobody.
@hawaiianrobot6 жыл бұрын
yeah it's not like the BBC was heavily criticised for that or anything, nah
@TheTartanPimpernel6 жыл бұрын
I only put Rotherham and Rochdale in as examples and I never mentioned race or ethnicity, which doesn't interest me at all. You say you and Tommy as if we are one and the same? Personally, I don't see colour or religion, only good or bad and there are plenty of both in all societies. I only care that the press are avoiding issues that people really care about, leaving more extreme people to be the voice of said issues. I'm not on anyone's side. I only care that children are in danger and not enough is being done to highlight the fact, or to protect them.
@patdent2 күн бұрын
The reality is that the majority of grooming gangs are white, but Mr Yaxley-Lennon is only interested in the brown ones. That's the issue here. He has never been interested in the abuse and exploitation of children, except when there's some profit in it for himself. He's making a great deal of money out of this stuff.
@ProfessionalCow16 жыл бұрын
I don't trust any of this.
@Tonyisnotonfire6 жыл бұрын
I don’t trust a guy who harasses people outside of mosques
@foreverandever55486 жыл бұрын
Louis Young Don't!
@earthstar3936 жыл бұрын
Why not? Cus it doesn’t fit with what you want to believe?
@Charlie_Ses6 жыл бұрын
Channel 4 have completely missed the point on this one. The anger and support for Tommy isn't about what happened on that day in isolation, this sentiment has been building for years, and this incident is just a trigger. It's building precisely because of the way Channel 4, and ALL other mainstream media organisations have such a "liberal" agenda. You're ideologically driven, to the point where vast swathes of this country feel they are unable to even mention concerns they have about current social issues without being shouted down. How else could no one, and that's literally no one, in the entire establishment and mainstream media, not have seen the Brexit vote going the way it did? Why, because you're totally out of tune with the electorate, because you won't let ordinary people voice their opinions, because you're so certain you're right. Continue to ignore and shut down, it won't end well. You need to be a lot more responsible - you're actually causing the issues here.
You're obviously quite ignorant of how the judicial system works in our country. Lennon committed two crimes and now faces justice. Long overdue.
@Charlie_Ses6 жыл бұрын
TMan786 That's fine. But as I said this isn't just about Tommy's arrest. Did you not get that from what I wrote?
@markshirt89406 жыл бұрын
The reason why to experts failed to predict the results of the 2015 General Election and the EU referendum is because many people in Britain long ago became very wary about volunteering their true opinions to strangers. That's the kind of country we've become.
@SavageAudits2 жыл бұрын
Tommy is a legend!
@skyanderground9976 Жыл бұрын
Une légende vivante Beaucoup d'entre nous en France aimons sont travail Malheureusement il très compliqué de trouver ces vidéos traduit en français pour que je puisse les partager 😕
@charlesroberts21666 жыл бұрын
I don't notice you devoting a whole video to the subject of the grooming gangs ... smh :-(
@micky92296 жыл бұрын
Remember, grooming gangs is a government term to hide what is going on. Gangs that rape small children over and over again, is the term.
@charlesroberts21666 жыл бұрын
Oooh ... sorry ... Mr Pedantic ... smh :-(
@Strawberry-ii4le6 жыл бұрын
Danny Loftus how many Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs are there? It’s only a “huge problem” because they’re not white. And what difference does it make that they’re related. The far-right need to learn to hate the act of grooming more than they do the nationality of the minority that do.
@NotQuiteFirst6 жыл бұрын
Stop using the sanitised term "grooming gangs", to do so is to play the politically correct language game to avoid the problem. The term is RAPE gangs. Their crime is mass repeated rape, gang rape, and false imprisonment of minors.
@erzan6 жыл бұрын
Charles Roberts Bye bye Tommy. Bye bye. Bye bye Tommy. Bye bye.
@Drwatson19776 жыл бұрын
This is worse than the Cathy Newman interview..
@antisatorirecords6 жыл бұрын
You lot need to study English contempt law, Jesus fucking Christ... Tommy Robinson's been running his gob for years, nae problems, then gets done for jeopardizing criminal trials.The biggest irony is that if we didn''t have laws like this, aforementioned Muslim child molesters' trials could have collapsed, and they wouldn't have faced justice. Tommy Robinson risked keeping Muslim child molesters on the street, and if you're too dumb to understand that, you're a fucking eejit.
@wattage20076 жыл бұрын
AntiSatori Records There were other journalists there too. Why didn’t they suffer the same fate? If you can’t see that Robinson’s imprisonment was purely political, it’s you who’s the ‘eejit.’
@dave123xxx6 жыл бұрын
Dr Watson I know the channel 4 is super left wing but on this video I think they covered it rather unbiased like. Facts and laws are clear and Tommy already being convicted of this, he seems pretty silly to be honest to even attempt it.
@lostat4006 жыл бұрын
Dr Watson: Did you notice, the direction in which the information was heavily slanted; Example: Tommy Robinson is no stranger to jail. Mortgage Fraud, Passport tampering, ect. Leaving out any suggestion that he was hounded by UK authorities, it is not like anyone was defrauded of money, during the mortgage irregularity, or that for him to go to the US and give a speech, on the effects of Muslim migration, that he had to resort to using a dodgy passport. The political establishment, of the UK, has been subverted by people with a deep understanding of human behaviour, the mind, and the psyche, the people funding their work, getting it into the press, schools and politics are the Islamist's, be it Quatar, Saudi's, United Nations, Muslim Brotherhood ect Neuro - Linguistic - Programing is a way of understanding people's behaviour patterns, and then influencing their behaviour. As a way of gaining power over them or others. You see the press at it all the time; with their constant attacks on Christianity and never publishing anything that is critical of Islam, rather what they do is the opposite; misnaming Islamic Terrorism so as to prevent people from picking up on the meaning of the attack, it is not these acts were carried out by some bad people who happen to be Muslim, no they are the result of people believing in a bad religion, who carry out the instructions given in that religion. It's the same case with the Muslim Gangs of Mass rapists, targeting children, not Muslim girls, no it is the daughters, sisters of the Kafir, that they rape. (Kafir a Muslim term for unbeliever.)
@TMan7866 жыл бұрын
Lie.
@gjermund80536 жыл бұрын
There is no misunderstanding at all. This was political.
@briankane65475 жыл бұрын
He received a sentence for "commiting journalism".
@MissBlennerhassett8765 жыл бұрын
That's a tshirt, babes. That's not what actually happened.
@alexc11055 жыл бұрын
CONTEMPT..... OF..... COURT.... There was a court order not to report prejudicially on an ongoing court case and he reported prejudicially on an ongoing court case... he confronted the accused (no thanks to Tommy Robinson they have now been found guilty) and called them child rapists on a live facebook feed. This has now been judged to be true by a court of law, but at that time was prejudicial! That is CONTEMPT OF COURT! Tommy's actions could have easily led to a conviction of these paedophiles being overturned.
@paxvid5 жыл бұрын
@@alexc1105 He asked them "how did they feel about the verdict". The Convicted rapists going in to face sentencing answered back that they would rape and kill his mother. The case had ENDED
@obliviousobie43946 жыл бұрын
This is poor reporting. Robinson didn’t state anything on his live stream that hadn’t already been put into the public domain by the BBC. He was very careful to refer to the defendants as “alleged rapists” instead of just “rapists”. At no point did Robinson enter court property, he remained outside. He was informed by police at the scene that he was allowed to film. He was arrested under the false charge of “breach of the peace”, not contempt of court. The judge that sentenced Tommy also bore witness to the alleged crime which is not allowed under U.K. law and should have voided the trail. The length of the sentence handed to Robinson was unprecedented in comparison to the actual “crime”. And most importantly the Jury had already reached a verdict, this was a sentencing hearing to determine sentences only, it’s pretty hard to influence a jury that have already declared their decision. I’ll be the first to say I don’t necessarily agree with everything Robinson says or believes, but regardless of your opinion of the man this was gross misconduct at best. I’d like to think that you have missed out this information entirely by accident and therefore am hoping that you rectify your mistake at your earliest convenience. We wouldn’t want anybody thinking that this was some kind of biased propaganda now would we, channel 4.
@TMan7866 жыл бұрын
He committed his second contempt of court.
@obliviousobie43946 жыл бұрын
TMan786 if you say so pal
@glenyswiseman87626 жыл бұрын
TMan.....so according to you he should be being 'hung by the neck' in public......is contempt of court 'worse than' rape, or CONCEALING the harm/rape of girls
@mattyboydabest976 жыл бұрын
Nicely worded
@terrytaylor13946 жыл бұрын
Well said. Nothing in the article was actually untrue - except "the Far right" bit, but it is being INCREDIBLY selective with the facts and with the narrative. MSM is dying. RIP and good riddance.
@MegaGary19606 жыл бұрын
of course no reporting restrictions on the like of Rolf Harris and others who had to endure a scrum of reporters on the way in to court
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
Those cases are one trial and one verdict at the end. This is THREE trials dealing with the defendants from the same case. Once all THREE trials are concluded the reporting restriction is lifted.
@kessiawright17106 жыл бұрын
Fred Bloggs No, they will still only report what the government will allow them to report.
@drpk65146 жыл бұрын
It had nothing to do with freedom of speech: watch?time_continue=366&v=jys7jbVccrU
@staffy19686 жыл бұрын
And don`t forget when Cliff Richards was being arrested as it was happening the good old BBC had a helicopter up filming it all no restrictions there & it was all hearsay at the end of it all scandelous treatment
@peterobinson25466 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine told me aboutl Rolf Harris 9 months before the British media were even allowed to write a word about it. MY mom refused to believe me until it made trial. :( So, yes, there WAS reporting resrictions, you cockwomble. And how did all the reporters work for Max Clifford? For a PR person, he was a complete tw*twaffle.
@gavingiant69006 жыл бұрын
Not one mention of the judge that witnessed the whole thing and then took the case on.
@blockchainbot.65966 жыл бұрын
So what,he still did break the law. You break the law,you will be punished. Nothing complicated about it.
@paulcalmond6 жыл бұрын
Blockchain Bot. He chose to act in that way, then when charged with contempt of court he chose to plead guilty.
@Kiers846 жыл бұрын
Bsonsyrup I didn't know that about UK contempt law - could you point to the source of both the law and that the judge in question notified the police?
@WayneJohnsonZastil6 жыл бұрын
He did not break the law at all and never has only been persecuted. Look up the last 100 contempts of courts in the UK everyone did it 100 times not just 2 like tommy and all got away with it or nothing like 13 months. He is politcal prisoner
@streamangel6836 жыл бұрын
If people bothered actually doing some research into the law & legal procedures (instead of just believing half baked rumours they hear on the internet) they would learn that it's actually NOT 'illegal' for a judge to preside over a 'contempt of court case' in which they have been the witness to the contempt of court being committed.
@steffanhibbard24933 жыл бұрын
Keep it up Tommy , there's more people out there supporting you than you realize , proud of you Tommy .
@stoufer20003 жыл бұрын
Nah, UK has support umeted when everyone learnt what a scammer he was
@antoneckhart4010 Жыл бұрын
@@stoufer2000mi5Agent. Hes not even getting arrested. Like actors. Fools believe anything.
@Kate-tz4vs6 жыл бұрын
A courageous man was sentenced to death by immoral thugs and you are covering up for those thugs! Shame on you!
@toxicasset50976 жыл бұрын
Who was sentenced to death? Wtf?
@V01DFox6 жыл бұрын
This is a myth: the popular claim is that the prison he has been put in has a 71% muslim population. Official prison reports show that the muslim population in the prison is 13% and the population of white british prisoners is 67.7%. The rest are from black or ethnic minority backgrounds but are not muslim. This can be read and verified at the justice . gov . uk website for the Leicester prison. His life is not at risk.
@davechambers48676 жыл бұрын
Sarcasm ?
@lordAlrubaie6 жыл бұрын
Not sure who you mean, but to me a thug is a person who uses bullying tactics to get his way yet when accused claims free speech.
@LlyneM-rf3gd6 жыл бұрын
V 0 1 D Muslim individuals and/or muslim prison gangs will kill him. That is certain.
@CrusaderZav6 жыл бұрын
Look at the dislike bar Channel 4. Time to switch on and stop spouting your ideology, and instead start discussing the truth.
@eamonryan87386 жыл бұрын
CrusaderZav: They are a media company, bud. They will add the like and dislike bar and see if any advertiser's (how they are funded) are at all interested. They're wide awake, am afraid.
@boatymcboatface6666 жыл бұрын
#freetommyrobinson
@tman651 Жыл бұрын
God bless you Tommy Robison He's standing up for his Country the Sovereignty of his country and it's Citizens ! 💜💜💜💜💜💜
@paulcaney5936 Жыл бұрын
😂
@andrekoerber73347 ай бұрын
Absolutely right.
@cardiocain21227 ай бұрын
He also make Christian look bad with his islamophobic act Yeah.....good man
@etiennen41366 жыл бұрын
Can't get more Fake propaganda than this
@morrobarry6 жыл бұрын
True true but what is real propergander?
@AbCdEfGhIjKlMnO19876 жыл бұрын
Why is it propaganda? Far as I can research, it's all perfectly true.
@simonj99376 жыл бұрын
@@AbCdEfGhIjKlMnO1987 in light of the recent information that has come out do you still think this?
@trevordaviesable6 жыл бұрын
What is fake about it? Instead of namecalling provide sensible facts.
@jasoncornell15796 жыл бұрын
1. The trial was over the verdict was given. 2. He wasn't taken to a police station and properly processed (illegal). 3. The judge witnessed the alleged contempt and then took the case. 4. He was denied access to his chosen lawyer and his lawyer was lied to and told he wasn't needed (illegal). The first thing his lawyer would've said would've been to request a recess to prepare a defence.
@jasoncornell15796 жыл бұрын
Further to my 4th point it is likely although can't of course be proved that his court appointed lawyer probably said "because of who u are I'm not going to bother defending u so u may as well plead guilty" or at least that's what I am alleging😀
@2darker6 жыл бұрын
Due process - the judge can't have bias...
@themoralcube6 жыл бұрын
The Cathy Newman interview made channel 4 internet famous, and they continue to show their true colour.
@turboconqueringmegaeagle90066 жыл бұрын
Yeah but lobsters
@johnhurley72056 жыл бұрын
Yup them and all their lobsters are digging holes they'll never get out of.. look at the results of the munk debate
@einarabelc56 жыл бұрын
INFAMOUS!
@TMan7866 жыл бұрын
How? By reporting the truth and exposing far-right conspiracy theorists?
@MrBionic266 жыл бұрын
Channel 4 actually broadcasts ISIS propaganda and I am not joking.
@tonyscott21645 жыл бұрын
I thought the grooming gang had already been found guilty and were there that day to be sentenced?
@janebourdillon94975 жыл бұрын
Yes, so did I. Therefore it wasnt contempt of court
@johnrankin3385 жыл бұрын
Yes they had ,So this guy is fake news
@OneThousand985 жыл бұрын
Sentencing is still part of the trial, dipshit.
@XyZCwP5 жыл бұрын
Exactly disgusting how he’s been treated , shame they don’t treat the scum bag pedos the same way
@rebeccarugrat60685 жыл бұрын
@@OneThousand98 whether sentencing is part of the trial or not tommy cant jeopardize the verdict when its already been giving, dipshit.
@jackryan21356 жыл бұрын
After the Jordan Peterson interview i think most people consider Channel 4 to just be propaganda.
@JokerScribe6 жыл бұрын
Not trying to govern free speech but arresting and charging people for making comical jokes and skits online. The system has gone absolutely psychotic, they're actually thick. They think they are wise but by proclaiming to be they'e become stupid to the nth degree, that thing with Dankula on their part was pathetic.
@TMan7866 жыл бұрын
You don't speak for "most people". Do you?
@jonnyhost37956 жыл бұрын
Its ran by the ex editor of the Guardian, what do you expect.
@nikkid48906 жыл бұрын
james gaskell Amen! Grossly biased to one side
@CaptCutler6 жыл бұрын
Almost nonone even heard of Channel 4 outside of that shithole called Britain before the Peterson interview. That's all they were after anyway... exposure.
@TheTartanPimpernel6 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of Tommy Robinson at all. He is like a bull in a china shop and shouldn't have been where he was. My misgivings are the double standards in reporting cases. We all saw the helicopter footage of police raiding Cliff Richard's house and searching through his belongings on merely allegation? Why should some in court be protected? Why shouldn't this be massive news? Why shouldn't parents of other children in the area where the accused were said to have operated, have full disclosure of this case and be able to take extra precaution to protect their children. Whether you're a supporter of Robinson or not, reporting restrictions on some but not others does not and never will sit right with me and this is why we finish up with people like Robinson and Farage raising issues that people are genuinely worried over. Then the media goes into full attack about racism, xenophobia and right wing nutters. Go to towns like Rochdale and Rotherham and ask people there. Whether you are right or left, somehow something just doesn't seem right about the whole thing.
@buffalobill2266 жыл бұрын
Because when you film live outside of courts with the families of the victims walking past, you risk exposing those victims identities who, as you know are children.
I'm not talking about whether he's guilty or not. I don't care about him at all. I care about important issues not being reported on properly. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWizaJyeZqyoq7M
@TheTartanPimpernel6 жыл бұрын
Same as my answer below. I care that issues are not being reported on. Evidence can be given on tv screens by victims and families can watch on live news feeds without attending. I care much more about this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWizaJyeZqyoq7M
@Valkyrie19416 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse you'll not be a fan of him.. He is exposing true face of your religion to the world...
@Gorteenminogue6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the word 'News' should be removed from 'Channel 4 News'?
@micky92296 жыл бұрын
Replace the word News with Brainwashing for weak minded betas
@sirlurksalot44545 жыл бұрын
Tommy was sent to prison for using words
@PsychoNatural3 жыл бұрын
True words
@MikeHunt456 жыл бұрын
Lies, propaganda, slander......welcome to channel 4
@gfingers91173 жыл бұрын
“Lies, propaganda, slander” welcome to Steven/ Tommy talking about Muslims and the Quran.
@masha22092000r6 жыл бұрын
Oh look, it has been 2 weeks and NOW you are reporting!!!
@fironfiron88436 жыл бұрын
+First Last Can you actually cite what you are saying? Specially rapist being freed?
@TMan7866 жыл бұрын
All's well that ends well. The criminal is in jail.
@masha22092000r6 жыл бұрын
The like/dislike ratio is sooo satisfying to see though
@trevorfolster73226 жыл бұрын
Why in the UK when the Rolf Harris trial. There was a circus media before, during and after the trial. Why didn't all those reporters go to jail? This Canadian very perplexed.
@royshaft5 жыл бұрын
And cliff riichard raid. BBC same smear merchants .
@CarlHughes-jw4ncАй бұрын
Telling the truth has now actually now become a crime
@stellaartois3036 жыл бұрын
*WHY DID CHANNEL 4 NOT REPORT ON THE TWO JOURNALISTS DETAINED FOR WANTING TO COME INTO THE COUNTRY TO SPEAK TO TOMMY?* 🇬🇧 #FreeTommy 🇬🇧
@connorthebigman68243 жыл бұрын
Shut up
@stellaartois3033 жыл бұрын
@@connorthebigman6824 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻good argument....🙄
@theslimeylimey6 жыл бұрын
What a garbage lobster explanation. Simply calling it contempt of court doesn't make it contempt of court. You didn't go into the specifics of what Tommy said that crossed the line into contempt. Standing outside a court house with a camera is not contempt of court so what EXACTLY was in Tommy's live stream that could have negatively influenced a trial that was all but over? The defendants were there for sentencing at the END of the trial. I think its fair to assume the jury was well aware of the defendants names and what the charges were which is all the information I saw get released. What he reported was already in the public domain from other sources anyway. This is obviously a very heavy handed judicial over reach and abuse of power any way you slice it. You lobsters missed the entire point once again.
@theslimeylimey6 жыл бұрын
If this was a sentencing hearing as claimed, how can what Tommy did be construed as influencing a jury that has already deliberated and come to a verdict? Sure, you can throw someone in jail on a technicality but that doesn't make it right or just. We'll see what happens in his appeal but my guess is the basis for the contempt charge will be shown as hollow.
@C0DW1TH5ANDEL56 жыл бұрын
The only reason he was arrested is the same as why millions of people have been arrested and murdered during fascist and communist regime. For speaking his mind and poor little judge and leftist didn't agree. There are a major number of problems with the reason to arrest and the sentencing. The police arrested him for disrupting the public peace, no idea how or why if he was the only one talking and not asking others or intimidating people. He then got sentenced on very different charges, contempt of court. Which is, so far I can think of, impossible when the case has served and a verdict is already made. Especially when they say contempt of court is about media attention during the court case. Tommy Robinsons sentencing was unfairly in anyway. In this way you could say he was kidnapped by the government. #FreeTommyRobinson
@theslimeylimey6 жыл бұрын
And he's out with the court of appeal noting the judges hasty conviction had "technical flaws" and the charge and sentence was thrown out. So I assume you believe Tommy's release and conviction overturn is wrong and Tommy should be thrown back in jail because of points 1 2 and 3? Or were you just "misconstruing and manipulating the narrative" when you made those points?
@theslimeylimey6 жыл бұрын
Well imagine my surprise. Tommy was rushed to trial, convicted and sent to prison without the court hearing any of the specifics in his live stream that broke the contempt of court threshold so he's free and his conviction is overturned. Good investigative reporting you did there Channel 4 [slow clap]
@feetayrooster6 жыл бұрын
Well done. You nailed it with your comment a month ago.
@lewishagan93196 жыл бұрын
"Welcome to so what, our show which spreads disinformation about the important issues that you need to be brainwashed about, for our benefit"
@mohamedissa17296 жыл бұрын
What part of that was disinformation???? Ur just mad that facts aren't on ur side
@aidygooner6 жыл бұрын
The right-wingers feel lost without the daily fake news of Britain First which has finally been closed. The majority of Tommy's followers are illiterate (can't even speak their own easy language properly 🙈😂), mentally naive and culturally clueless, yet they think they're the solution to this issue with their selective morals... they probably have a Jimmy Saville poster on their bedroom walls. 😂
He only discussed what was in the local paper! You're so biased it's embarrassing
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
He harassed people entering the court which is Contempt of Court. At least watch the fucking video!
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
What you think is irrelevant. It's Contempt of Court moron.
@johnclegg49936 жыл бұрын
Fred Bloggs - why don't you use your proper real name you salty get? Don't worry, i know why, were Max Clifford and Rolf Harris not harrassed then 24/7? I can assure you they were, your comments are ridiculous. They were harrassed every single day by masses of reporters.
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
John, two wrongs do not make a right.
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
This case is subject to a postponement order. What happens for other cases is irrelevant.
@theonlyjoe_6 жыл бұрын
#FreeTommyRobinson
@Charlie_Ses6 жыл бұрын
Channel 4 should be utterly ashamed and embarrassed by the Cathy Newman Vs Peterson interview. Did that episode not highlight exceedingly clearly how far you've lost your way? Are alarm bells not ringing? You're a disgrace.
@Charlie_Ses6 жыл бұрын
Choraldiscourse I'm not sure it is in its death throes? Every day there is more and more equalities bullshit being forced on our every day lives, it feels like it is in an ascendancy. Anyone who feels uncomfortable with it needs to voice their opposition imo...
@francoiselemeur73256 жыл бұрын
Steve Thomas those 2 guys speaking look retarted .one with crossed blue eye and the other with a blank clone face .they are Clones...cant yu tell...robots!!
@TMan7866 жыл бұрын
Whataboutery. Stick to the topic.
@tyjakkty86682 жыл бұрын
because it was easier to put one man in jail rather than the hundreds he is accusing of all the terrible stuff they have done
@orangefield1006 жыл бұрын
Nothing Tommy said prejudiced the trial
@crazyronaldo46376 жыл бұрын
Free tommy
@manofmartin6 жыл бұрын
Judging by the comment section and the likes to dislikes, it appears your propaganda is failing.
@markmarshall79726 жыл бұрын
Man Of Martin well said
@TMan7866 жыл бұрын
Channel 4 is stating the truth. If you don't like it run along to your safe space.
@markmarshall79726 жыл бұрын
TMan786 Are you deaf, dumb and blind?
@manofmartin6 жыл бұрын
TMan786 this news is old and outdated. They are behind the scoop. This is just spin.
@theodontosaurus6 жыл бұрын
There is no spin, they are literally stating the facts of the British judicial system. Please at least try to approach this from an objective point of view.
@philelvis14722 ай бұрын
This is unbelievable, he’s been jailed for exposing establishment lies, he made a documentary that the regime wouldn’t let him show as it exposes their lies, we are officially a banana republic, let’s hope he doesn’t meet the same fate as Peter Lynch.
@vinayjoshi50706 жыл бұрын
Wait I get it. 1. Paint the Person in a cetain manner. 2. Lead the viewer to believe that he is a bad guy and has already been doing bad things. 3. Present twisted facts with opinions. 4. Divide things in spectrums. 5. Claim your Victory. Tommy Robinson is innocent.
@Felale6 жыл бұрын
Also use the buzz term "Far Right."
@abhinavanand97176 жыл бұрын
Vinay Joshi Not an argument. Refute a detail they mentioned as misleading or misrepresenting.
@vinayjoshi50706 жыл бұрын
Abhinav Anand I am not refuting any factual evidence that they present, they are simply twisting the facts to suit their narrative. 1. He was arrested on different grounds but was sentenced for something entirely different. 2. He was outside the court and not inside. 3. People are concerned because he was tried and sentenced immediately whereas factually many courts in London Don't punish Muslim culprits over long periods of time. A court even exonerated a muslim over a rape just because he said that his culture taught him that and he was not aware of British culture. 4. The police apprehended him quickly while they don't act immediately if the culprit is a muslim because of fear of being called Islamophobes. 5. This is entirely about free speech, which the video completely derails and leads somewhere else which was my initial point.
@callumnewman52386 жыл бұрын
However he isn't innocent tho is he and pleading guilty to it might just state that you know.
@thegit86986 жыл бұрын
Who paid you to make this video? May herself? Or did the old boy network all chip in? And how about that guy from the home office they knicked the other day, his name and face is all over the media, will that stop justice being done?
@eamonryan87386 жыл бұрын
Jas Ward: When tens of thousands march in support of overturning his conviction, perhaps it will?
@abihigson3136 жыл бұрын
They quickly put him in jail whilst the real dirt are still walking around freely .. Thats how the justice system works...
@bronktug24465 жыл бұрын
corruption at its finest
@fatphobicandproud90035 жыл бұрын
Hypocrisy101
@ctn34725 жыл бұрын
If you support him you’re talled
@ctn34725 жыл бұрын
Tapped*
@saynototerrorism96175 жыл бұрын
@Lkay You just humiliated yourself. You tried to insult him and his supporters but instead you made spelling mistakes and embarassed yourself.
@debbiep46472 жыл бұрын
Wow! You all in the UK can get charged with contempt of court when your not even inside of the building???
@paulmair13926 жыл бұрын
#free tommy
@TMan7866 жыл бұрын
#JailLennonForLife
@Arthur-fz5dw6 жыл бұрын
20 years to bring pedephile gang rapists and 20 minutes to sentence a man who makes a facebook video outside a court about them, you really think that people will be ok with that? Tommy is a real hero, support from France!
@MrDavidc6 жыл бұрын
This news has reached every corner of the Internet, as you say, but not on mainstream media
@theq-15 жыл бұрын
I havent even watched this and know it will be BS!
@liquidphilosopher18164 жыл бұрын
that sounds like hard denial
@rstlesswarrior6 жыл бұрын
Lies by omissions beyond belief. There were actual threats yelled at Tommy right in front of the police and they did nothing, but then arrest him for breaching the peace. Curiously, all while the judge can be seen watching the arrest together with a bunch of policemen from the courthouse. Also using your arguments about the legality of things, one could also argue that all the convictions done in the soviet union were all perfectly fine, because they followed their own laws... In Tommy's case, there were clearly abusing certain laws in order to get him to shut up. Have you seen the testimony of one of the whistle-blowers about these child-rape/prostitution-rings and their protection by police and politicians?
@7_years_and_6 жыл бұрын
look at the epic dislike ..
@oldieal70326 жыл бұрын
anon anon Yeah it shows that Tommy Robinson fans are too delusional to accept facts.
@henrytownshed53046 жыл бұрын
Olimar Al by jailing him you're just putting making him into a martyr, just like Britain first. When they get out there going to be a lot more powerful.
@anonymousaccount58356 жыл бұрын
Olimar Al I bet you’re not saying that now!
@clifffor11796 жыл бұрын
and epic like for that comment
@tyhum0076 жыл бұрын
@@oldieal7032 do you know who antifa are?
@geekyalias6 жыл бұрын
Once you know who Channel 4 is run by, this kind of propaganda makes sense. (hint, its the UK government)
@darryljones30096 жыл бұрын
It's not.
@geekyalias6 жыл бұрын
Norton I go on then, who is it run by?
@geekyalias6 жыл бұрын
TheCausation tell me more!
@kari8187 Жыл бұрын
He tried to warn you all and you called him racist for speaking the truth. Shameful.
@nickc97936 жыл бұрын
Ok so he was arrested for breach of peace with what evidence did they have to arrest him in the first place.
@eamonryan87386 жыл бұрын
nicholas cranfield: him there, breaching the peace, with well documented previous convictions probably helped. Probably.
@richob27146 жыл бұрын
I think this may have just backfired on Channel 4, they have shown there hand and will now never be able to fight in court there right to report on anything the courts or government tell them they can’t, because every time they do this will be thrown at them it shows and for cowards they are
@vjab11086 жыл бұрын
The WHOLE WORLD KNOWS that Tommy is a POLITICAL PRISONER.
@isaacwood40716 жыл бұрын
HE plead guilty
@saynototerrorism96175 жыл бұрын
@Isaac He did not. Try again.
@vjab11085 жыл бұрын
@@isaacwood4071 HE DID NOT PLEAD GUILTY get your FACTS RIGHT.
@vjab11085 жыл бұрын
@@isaacwood4071 He did NOT PLEAD GUILTY get your Facts RIGHT.
@angieogden2308 Жыл бұрын
Yes it's very strange how much they hate the guy feels like we live in Russia the way they try to shut him up and lock him away
@MattDeckard6 жыл бұрын
“A thorn in the side of the establishment, a defender of free speech.” - BBC 4
@johnmorgan41243 жыл бұрын
Then, like all fash they will silence their opposition. Fash only want free speech for them selves. Recall ww2?
@marcschipperheyn45266 жыл бұрын
What a disgraceful propaganda piece! It tries to suggest impartiality but intentionally ignores key aspects: while the jailing of Tommy Robinson *could* be seen as in line with a harsh interpretation of contempt law, the length of the sentence and the summary way in which it was imposed are clearly evidence of bias. It can also be argued that contempt did not *have* to apply and that while Robinson took a risk here, his behavior does not necessarily have to be seen as contempt, which reinforces the idea that his sentencing ws unduly harsh and evidence of bias.
@dudleywalden54936 жыл бұрын
Let me summarize: the courts followed a law because there is no freedom of speech or press in the UK. Got it. #FreeTommy
@mariesi855 жыл бұрын
He never pleaded guilty and his solicitor was told that he would be released. You got the basic facts wrong.
@corbinstack6 жыл бұрын
Social media is a two way street Channel 4. How about some of your over paid employees actually engage with your audience to address their concerns and provide further journalistic integrity to your report? This is your opportunity to win people to your side of the story, but your silence is indicative of you serving a narrative instead of your viewers. In these forums it is pretty clear you realize your narrative is slowly unraveling and you haven't even provide any further evidence to help us view you in a positive light. Now might be your last chance to join the people before they turn on you for good...
@susanneyuk-pingpong87056 жыл бұрын
"When you film live outside of courts with the families of the victims walking past, you risk exposing those victims identities who, as you know are children." thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/
@corbinstack6 жыл бұрын
So are you proposing that the judge was afraid Tommy would film those families/victims on purpose? What about the other people who had their mobile phones on? What about the people who filmed Tommy's arrest? It seems like the law wasn't evenly applied in this situation.
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
TR however PUBLISHED it and that is Contempt of Court for this case. There is no restriction on merely shooting a video (outside of court grounds).
@corbinstack6 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. After all if a guy can be arrested for posting a joke on the internet (see Count Dankula case), I can see why it's important to jail someone for videoing/posting the stories that the lamestream media won't cover.
@fredbloggs80346 жыл бұрын
You miss the point. The actions of TR could have prejudiced the next trial on this case. Had that happened there would have been a mistrial. What would the supporters of TR have said if the trial collapsed?
@Metallikid16 жыл бұрын
"Fringe of the right"....when's the last time you heard any mainstream media outlet (US/European) describe someone part of the "fringe of the left?"
@LVHorse6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone believe this tripe?
@seanrobinson22706 жыл бұрын
LVHorse sadly yes, the majority of university students for a start
@doyoumind93566 жыл бұрын
Yes
@AbCdEfGhIjKlMnO19876 жыл бұрын
Yes, because it's true
@deeprain82334 жыл бұрын
Channel 4 News BS at its best. Prove that he pleaded guilty... you can’t. Lie No 1.
@jpbdexv4 жыл бұрын
He pleaded guilty thinking he would get a fine like all other journalists for the same offence. That part of his character, belief that justice must prevail, is why so many people love him.
@deeprain82334 жыл бұрын
Emilovius He didn’t plead guilty, that’s why he appealed and won the case. You’re confusing this with the first case. Here’s a link that’ll help you understand. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKbMYpd_ibh9j68
@jeanclaudejunior4 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't dare put the head of Sadiq Khan on a pike and put it into a corner of a building as a warning to Muslims, Remainers, the Media such as channel 4 and Climate activists, would you?
@Anonymous-gu2pk6 жыл бұрын
"The Secret Barrister" as a source? This is your idea of news? :D Here's my response to his article: *1. It starts by framing, which is always a good sign of "fair" reporting.* Tommy isn't a fraudster. He got convicted for lending money to his brother-in-law after the government started looking for anything to silence Tommy. The brother in-law used the loan for a self-certification mortgage application to make it appear like he had more money than he actually had. There was no victim in this "crime", nobody lost any money, the mortgage was paid back in full and nobody gets an 18 months prison sentence for just lending people money when there aren't even any damages. Tommy made the guilty plea when they threatened to drag his wife into court and charge her with the "crime". You know there are threats against Tommy's life and he frequently gets assaulted on the streets? He has been very careful to keep his wife's face out of the media (yeah, there's no ban on taking photos when Tommy is in court), so instead of letting her face become public, he took the hit on himself and made a guilty plea without fighting the case in court. This is some top notch victim blaming - using the government's persecution as a permanent mark against someone. *2. "there has not, until today, been mainstream coverage of the case"* Wrong, all of the mainstream news sites covered it. They released the names, charges, street names, photos and videos of the defendants without suffering any legal ramification. Where do you think Tommy got his information in the first place? He wasn't in the courtroom. *Google:* mirror 27 men and two women appear in court charged with string of offences *3. "his knuckle-dragging cheerleaders, not least his racists-in-arms across"* Again, no bias there, obviously. Tommy is not a racist, some of his best friends are black and he has stepped out against Islam in defense of black people. He only opposes Islam, which is not a race (as evidenced by the white and ginger Muslims for example), nor just a religion, but also a totalitarian political ideology. He had his Jewish friends protesting for him in Israel, he had 560+ thousand people signing a petition in his support. Are they all knuckle-dragging racists? Ex-Muslims, Sikhs and black people are speaking out for Tommy. Look at his Oxford University speech if you've bought the mainstream lies. *Google:* Tommy Robinson - Main Speech OxfordUnion *4. "Robinson was arrested outside Leeds Crown Court having video recorded a number of men"* Yeah, just like mainstream media had recorded these same men before. In fact there's a video of people shouting abuse and allegations at the same defendants at the same courthouse, in front of the police, and these people did not get arrested. Did they not affect the jury when the trial was just starting? Tommy waited until after the main part of the trial had concluded and he made sure to use the word "alleged" throughout his live stream and he also stayed off the court property, because these things got him into trouble the last time. *Google:* SAS reporting outside Leeds Court - 29 in court over 170 charges *5. "his actions in broadcasting details about the trial were in breach of reporting restrictions."* Are you joking? Reporting restrictions do not apply to information which is already in public domain (do you need more links to mainstream coverage?). The court records talk about Tommy listing the names and charges of the defendants. If anyone actually believes that the jury hadn't heard those details in court then they must be drunk. The narrative that this information could collapse the trial is beyond ridiculous. "Trial judges have *no power* under s.4(2) to postpone publication of any other reports e.g. in relation to *matters not admitted into evidence* or *prejudicial comment* in relation to the proceedings.91 Likewise, courts have no power under s.4(2) to prevent publication of material that is *already in the public domain."* "Section 4(2) is regularly invoked in cases involving *sequential trials.* The aim in those cases is to postpone the *reporting of specific parts of the evidence* in the first trial to prevent prejudice to the defendants in the second trial. It is generally not appropriate to invoke this power in relation to matters that form part of the evidence in both trials because in those cases *prejudice is unlikely to arise."* *Google:* Reporting Restrictions in the Criminal Courts April 2015 Tommy only reported basic information, which had been in the public domain since the very begging of the sequential trials. He didn't reveal any evidence from any of the trials, so prejudice is unlikely to arise from his reporting. *6. "prohibition on taking photographs or moving images inside a court building"* This is why Tommy stayed off the court property and out on the public streets. *7. "expressed his “views” on the guilt or otherwise of the defendants"* No, Tommy made it very clear that the defendants had not been found guilty and he kept using the word "alleged". *8. "risk of serious prejudice to the proceedings by jurors seeing or becoming aware of his ill-informed ramblings"* What was ill-informed about listing out the names and charges of the defendants, which had been widely published (the names are even available in public court records)? Where's the risk in reading out widely published news? *9. "this could have led to an application by the defence advocates to discharge the jury"* And any court would laugh at such an application. If they didn't request the jury to be discharged over videos (yes, there are multiple such videos out there) of large crowds of people shouting obscenities at the defendants then why would they do so when Tommy only lists out the defendants' names and charges? *Google:* LIVE with Ezra: SHOCK VIDEO shows other journalists filming same trial as Tommy Robinson *10. "Yaxley-Lennon admitted that he was in contempt of court."* Of course he did, because he was not allowed to contact a defender who's an expert in contempt of court law. Instead he was given some random pumpkin who didn't know anything about Tommy's legal background, the prior case against him, nor would he be specialized in this particular law. He would've almost certainly recommended Tommy to plead guilty to avoid the full 24 month sentence. Also, the judge admitted that he hadn't reviewed the full evidence and it doesn't seem that the defender had the time to do so as well. They weren't given the time to prepare a proper legal defense and generally these proceedings would take weeks, like they did last time. Tommy believed that his actions were fully within the bounds of the law and the judge and defense hadn't reviewed the evidence, so nobody in the court would've had an exact understanding of what Tommy was guilty of when he entered the guilty plea. And yet, he had no options, because his accuser was also the one to pass judgment and he didn't have time to prepare a case nor a proper representative to advise and defend him. He was essentially in a kangaroo court where all he could do was to beg mercy. A guilty plea would normally get a lesser sentence, yet the judge slapped on a harsh 10 months sentence for repeating information from mainstream news. *11. "Yaxley-Lennon was defended by an experienced member of the independent criminal Bar"* Imagine the joy people feel when they're told that they have to settle for a court appointed defender, instead of being allowed to use their own lawyer. They all have years of experience in the courtroom, but would you really want them defending you if you could afford hiring an expert instead? *12. "Because any BBC reports, which as far as I have seen relate entirely to the outset of proceedings before the judge made the reporting restriction, were not in contempt of court. They were fair and accurate, rather than propagandist rants seeking to disseminate information that a judge had specifically ordered should not be in the public domain (such as details of charges against the defendants that had been dropped), and were not in breach of reporting restrictions."* This is absolutely ridiculous. Tommy wasn't sharing any secret inside knowledge of the trials. He was reporting facts that the media had already widely published. The BBC (and other outlets) had in fact released the names, charges and street addresses of the defendants. This propagandist is flat out lying over and over again. Had he looked at the actual news articles, he would know that his statements were wrong and yet he still hasn't fixed the errors. *Google:* BBC Huddersfield inquiry sees 29 in court
@Anonymous-gu2pk6 жыл бұрын
Contrarian, everyone who believes in evidence and reason is literally Hitler! :D
@Anonymous-gu2pk6 жыл бұрын
And then the next source LeedsLive complains that they ended up doxing the wrong address, because Tommy didn't disclose his real address in the courtroom. Are they for real? Tommy has a wife and children and many dangerous enemies. Don't these "journalists" have any conscience? They even let it slip that they think that their actions could cause problems for people who's address they published. "We have chosen to remove the incorrect address *with the current occupants of that property in mind."*
@Jonnie-Falafel6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That's a perfectly reasonable precis of the case. Ask C4 news if you can turn it into a presentation. A right to reply.
@xoxsilentrealmxox6 жыл бұрын
Excellent response
@aaronskipper27056 жыл бұрын
Swift justice for the victims by jailing the man who reports on them? What about swift justice for the people who cover it up. #CivilWar
@Inf7cted6 жыл бұрын
Free Tommy Robinson!
@TheWillpar Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you show the state for what it is. They will go to any lengths to shut you up.
@Charlie_Ses6 жыл бұрын
Genuine question - Is it usual for someone to be arrested, sentenced and jailed within 4 hours? Ever?
@BDaMonkey6 жыл бұрын
The video addresses this. Watch the video.
@Charlie_Ses6 жыл бұрын
BdaMonkey I wouldn't say it does answer that question explicitly, they skirt around the issue a little. They say these types of cases have to be dealt with "as swiftly as possible", but that's not the same as saying it is usual for people to be arrested, sentenced and jailed within 4 hours. Hence why I asked.
@BDaMonkey6 жыл бұрын
Steve Thomas I fail to see how it's truly relevant. He was warned about this, he broke the terms of his suspended sentence anyway.
@Charlie_Ses6 жыл бұрын
BdaMonkey It was just a question. Ultimately though I'm suspicious of mainstream media, I believe they have an agenda and will distort the truth to suit that agenda, so when I see them skirting round issues like this it makes me ask questions. Can anyone answer my question explicitly? My concern is that what we have here is a liberal mainstream media doing everything they can to vilify someone who stands for everything they hate, and they're being very slick about it too. Where have the balanced voices been in the mainstream media exploring this issue from both sides? Hasn't happened. Except perhaps for Maajid on LBC radio, but he's been a one off.
@BDaMonkey6 жыл бұрын
Steve Thomas I think you are reading too much into it. The man has been convicted several times, this isn't some establishment attack on freedom of speech. He broke the terms of his suspended sentence. It's a pretty simple state of affairs.
@laurejon6 жыл бұрын
The public know why, he is a political prisoner. Irrespective of your political views, a Citizen has a right to protest against Rape, call out the perpetrators, and highlight the covering up by the authorities. That is a democratic right in all democratic civilized nations. When that right is removed, then democracy has failed. Using technicalities to put a citizen in prison, with clear political overtones highlights more cover ups.
@jamesw56962 жыл бұрын
He is bullshit speaker, never shows any facts, just plane Neo Nazi hate preaching! He has a long list of convictions and is a liar and fascist ... he deserves more
@iMatti00 Жыл бұрын
I guess you’re not from England then. That’s obviously not their system. But it’s easy to want to be full of outrage and conspiracies about coverups, that’s just how they do it over there.
@rafayLullabies6 жыл бұрын
I feel like making a video about Islam. 10 likes I will do it bros and sis’s.
@DavidReynolds-kr6yh6 жыл бұрын
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@eyesopen67976 жыл бұрын
RoD K 44th like. That means DO IT 👍
@neoepicurean37725 жыл бұрын
Well, now you've have time to look back at what you presented here, which you framed as being a well research and unbiased look at the case. You know see what you did? a) you failed to look at what paragraphs of law related to what information can reporting be restricted on... The law clearly states that if it's in the public domain then it can't be restricted... Tommy knew this as he had legal advice to avoid contempt, so he only talked about things already in the media. You could have just watched the livestream. b) You didn't investigate the actual case, Tommy didn't plead guilty, he wasn't given a chance to enter any plea, and it's highly unusual to be arrested and sentenced to prison within 5 hours! Everyone knows that! Especially for reporting, which no one has gone to prison for since WW2! Surely you can look back at this now and see what you did? The case was thrown out on appeal and the prosecution described as a 'fundamentally flawed process' by that judge. c) then you turn this into freedom of speech issue, which isn't what I see anyone doing, it's about law. Tommy knew the law, and followed it. He says in the livestream several times that he understands why they couldn't try 29 defendants at once. He got, we get it. Don't act like his supporters are so stupid that we think it's just not being allowed to say what you want... Then we have the matter of the retrial... where the contempt came down to intimidating the defendants, not the actual reporting at all. And they took a line clearly out of context to use. Just watch the livestream, Tommy didn't threaten anyone! We have eyes and ears! If you don't see how bad a piece this was now, well, maybe there's no hope. But this will be looked back on as disinformation, poorly researched, but well prejudiced and biased.
Invesigator afew 14 years old s where groomed and abused in rochdale heywood afew years ago there always children
@alterego1576 жыл бұрын
..., Oxford, Leeds, Birmingham, Norwich, Burnley, High Wycombe, Leicester, Dewsbury, Middlesbrough, Peterborough, Bristol, Halifax, and the list goes on.
@chriswilde12106 жыл бұрын
It's about the principal of the matter more than anything. Disgusting by the police state.
@marvintpandroid22136 жыл бұрын
So he is above the law that all the rest of the press worked within?
@petemclovins91666 жыл бұрын
Heads Tails... that's how police states work, they use the law to crush political dissent which is pretty much what happened to tommy.
@Brisbaneman6 жыл бұрын
Journalists have never committed contempts?
@marvintpandroid22136 жыл бұрын
Pete Mclovins Yaxley is not the victim here, but nothing I or anyone else will convince you otherwise, or am I wrong at assuming you have totaly made your mind up on this? Reporting restrictions were in place to ensure a fair trial, once the trial was over those reporting restrictions were removed. Would you be happy if that EDL pedo who got done a couple of years ago had been exposed to a trial by media or trial by law?
@marvintpandroid22136 жыл бұрын
Brisbaneman They have and many have been prosecuted for it, any point to that question?
@seeitpickitbinit2510 Жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest, that’s not why they jailed him, he challenged the narrative, raised issues which were being suppressed and paid with his liberty, his marriage, his two businesses, 7 houses and his reputation, re manufactured by the state to misrepresent him as a classic far right racist, rather than a non-political simple working class lad and critic of a specific religious ideology and the special treatment it received in his town and across the country, which lead to widespread victims. This case, regardless of your politics, should be taught in Journalism school, to show the clinical assassination which occurs when you challenge the official line. It is frightening how many haven’t even watched Mr Lennon’s Oxford Union address, let alone any of the excellent documentaries like Silenced on KZbin or the Tankz, Anything Goes podcast. So many podcasts where he utterly destroys the fake strawman persona which the media has projected onto him. You’ll hear, “ EDL fight eachother”, but be never told that Tommy and many others were physically fighting real bonafide fascists, which is where one of his assault convictions comes from, literally, punching a Nazi. You’ll hear, convicted fraudster, but they won’t tell you, that when he refused to work for the intelligence services, they forensically investigated his whole family’s finances and found one had slightly exaggerated their income on a mortgage. They then threatened his pregnant wife with prison, if he didn’t accept jail, to silence him. There are so many dichotomous views like these, such as his family being doxxed by a lawyer, who hired a man to serve papers on him, who threatened to mince his children, on video. The police did nothing. The law society did nothing. But the story was reported as, Tommy harasses historian. You can’t quite imagine the Machiavellian evil which has twisted the public’s view of his beliefs and behaviour.
@LoadingRetroGames5 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of the guy but this is disgusting... How can the media be allowed to do exactly what he did ?
@aiden74406 жыл бұрын
Love how they completely danced around the fact that he is quite likely to be murdered in jail.
@codenamenel6 жыл бұрын
If you thought that by going to prison you would be Murdered, would you do ANYTHING you could to possibly avoid going to prison. ESPECIALLY if you had a 3 Month suspended sentence hanging over you ? Or would you go out and do exactly what the Judge in Court who gave you the 3 Months suspended sentence told you would land you in Prison ? Its his own fault he got sent to prison, He`s a grown man, he must accept the Responsibility for his actions.