Return to Never Land - Nostalgia Critic

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[@havdroid9769]

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[@air03man]

2nd star to the right & here we go off to neverland & off to the studio to finish the maintenance

[@anubusx]

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[@matityaloran9157]

It’s pretty good

[@millersam07]

One thing that always stuck out to me was the present Jane got her brother. She got him socks, which were seen as practical, and signifying that she was "no fun" and already a mini adult (yeah no duh. Shes dodging bombs in the blitz). But she says she got them a size large so he can grow into them. This line is HUGE, shes a child growing up in war where their lives could end at any moment, and yet shes holding out hope that her brother WILL grow. That he won't die young. Shes putting all her hopes and dreams into the fact that he will make it through the war, and grow big enough to fit into those socks. In her own way shes being extremely optimistic and hopeful.

[@JarodFarrant]

Wow, now when I stopped to see it, you’re right! It’s the little details like that they make a great story ❤

[@carlotta4th]

I think that's reading too much into it, she's practical and rhat rhat was a practical choice.

[@Nic_2751]

Damn, that’s one good detail

[@TheBigJayAgenda]

@@carlotta4th Nope

[@kingsleycy3450]

Given how Ariel absolutely didn’t age in the Little Mermaid sequel, this movie deserves a lot of props for actually growing up and maturing Wendy

[@OriginalPiMan]

There is a lot more time between. Between the two Little Mermaid movies was not more than 15 years, and probably more like 10. Between these two Peter Pan movies is something closer to 30-40 years, given that the original was almost certainly set before WW1.

[@Juuchan17]

Yeah, because by the time most of the events of Little Mermaid 2 begin (when Melody has her 12th birthday), Ariel should be pushing near 30... yet she looks as if she's 18 with her hair up.

[@mariogirl8100]

​@@Juuchan17My mom looks like she's in her 20s or 30s, yet she's in her 40s, so...

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

​@@Juuchan17OH that. She probably drank the fountain of youth from Japan. A lot of folks take that over there.

[@Ginnyrules27]

@@Juuchan17 According to Google, Ariel is 28 in the Little Mermaid 2 :D

[@chance_ondriezek99]

One of the few Disney sequels that’s actually fairly decent.

[@chasehedges6775]

True

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯

[@gryphonofmight]

Aladdin 3 was also good

[@skylerb97]

Aladdin 3 and Lion King 2 were pretty good

[@feliciafenish7128]

Agree, I even like the song "I'll Try". Not the best song from disney but not the worst.

[@StarSeedWitch_]

The only thing that drove me crazy, is that Jane NEVER takes off her socks. I can only imagine how gross they'd be. I'd of ditched those puppies as soon as they got wet.

[@dementedvillian]

Imagine the smell

[@dinosaysrawr]

Can you contract foot fungus in Neverland? Ugh!

[@SxyChicDisney]

She does take them off for a second in front of the fire, so maybe they dried off? 😂

[@ManiacMayhem7256]

​@@dementedvillian Ewwwwww

[@lenastorm6280]

Same! I just rewatched this movie last week (I'm having a Peter Pan-/Tinkerbell-marathon) and his bothered me so much!

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

Another Fun Fact: Because most of the original Peter Pan voice cast of the movie had died, including Hans Conried (Hook) and Bobby Driscoll (Peter Pan), an entirely new cast of actors had to be used to film this sequel. Among them is the prolific and versatile actor Corey Burton, who was not only a big fan and admirer of Hans Conried but also a student of his. Burton does a dead-on impression of Conried and, as he says, gives the illusion that Conried is present.

[@EarthwormShandy]

Not true

[@A-Microwave]

seriously, put all your fun fact posts in to 1 comment thread

[@devonchafe2764]

Less fun fact: Bobby Driscoll's death is incredibly sad, he was buried for over a year before his family even knew

[@ShyGuy83]

I also read that Kathryn Beaumont had originally recorded lines for Wendy, but her voice had gotten too old by that point, and they had to get Ms. Soucie instead.

[@LtPowers]

@@ShyGuy83 Yes, Ms. Beaumont was so disappointed.

[@paytonburrows2325]

The entire scene of Hook’s crew kidnapping Jane and flying through London while the Luftwaffe blitz is going on is seared into my mind. It’s incredible.

[@EthanDarke]

"Franz, vas zat ein Galleon" "Ja, tell zee wulfpack to keep eyes out"

[@Jan_Iedema]

Yeah it’s such a spectacle

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

Another Fun Fact: When the ship is traveling to Neverland through the portal, voices from the original Peter Pan (1953) can be heard.

[@ashleightompkins3200]

I knew I wasn't going nuts! I swore I could hear their voices

[@geardog24]

“I love A-holes with loopholes.” That’s what makes them the best villains. 😈

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

😂

[@yuishishido8780]

Sometime you dont need a villain with a relatable motive. Sometimes you just need an asshole being an asshole.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@yuishishido8780 👍

[@cartooncritique6625]

@@yuishishido8780 THANK YOU!! 👏👏👏 Too many people these days have forgotten what a VILLAIN is supposed to be.

[@TheCommenterDragon]

People can say what they will about " Peter Pan: Return to Never Land." But it's a Disney sequel that I truly love! I found it to be a very interesting continuation of the classic tale.

[@chasehedges6775]

Soooo true. I love it.

[@ryanmorejon5813]

Same here ❤

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

They did Bambi as well.

[@Yvanehtnioj2000]

Ehhh Jane’s daughter was a bit annoying

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

I dare even say that the sequel holds up better than the original film. Not because of anything deemed outdated or such - it’s just, compared to their other Golden and Silver Age films, I always felt that the 1953 film was one of the studio’s weaker films. I feel it’s kinda the result of the film being made after WWII. You look at the version they originally had planned before the war broke out and it was a lot more interesting - delving into Peter’s character and having more emotional stakes from the original story. The version we ended up getting feels like it was gutted, trying to play things safe for contemporary audiences.

[@markdevonport3274]

"Wendy bird?" "LEEDLE LEEDLE LEEDLE LEE" I laughed harder than I should've.

[@saveriopanaccione996]

At least the crocodile had manners

[@phantomstrider]

I never realised Return to neverland was hated by critics 😮 I put it among my top favourite disney sequels. Call me weird but I actually preferred it to the original "Peter Pan" movie lol.

[@Nick-ty9us]

It’s mainly because the voice acting by Corey Burton and Jeff Bennett doing spot on impressions of Bill Thompson and Hans Conrad

[@tigertempertantrum6573]

Same here! I've always preferred the sequel to the original; I feel Jane is a much more compelling protagonist than Wendy was, and Peter Pan was someone I actually liked in the sequel! In the original I... well, to put it lightly, thought he was a complete dick over and over. In this movie he's charming; he's childish and immature and a little selfish, but not to the point that I hated his guts, and he learns to be more inclusive as well which is really sweet! Plus the Lost Boys had more screen presence in this movie, and Captain Hook was hilarious! X3

[@nicholassims9837]

@@tigertempertantrum6573 to be fair in the first film Peter had the mindset of a child and children are not angels such as Calvin and Bart Simpson

[@trinaq]

I always loved this sequel more than the original. You can easily understand why Jane is so serious, since she's a traumatised child living in World War II, and was forced to grow up too fast. She's a brilliant protagonist, and is a contrast to the dreamy, gentle soul that Wendy was at her age.

[@magicamadeye]

in fact Wendy and Jane's arcs are basically the opposite between movies Wendy's is accepting growing older, that growing up is fine so long as you keep some of that childish whimsy. Jane has to learn to be more like a child, enjoy those years while you still have them, cuz they go away fast

[@Loto.Nintendo]

Yeah, when i was a kid i remember liking this one more than the original, but we watched them again for the first time in probably 16 years recently, and i found the original is better, but i remembered the sequel more. We watched hook after the two also, i think mostly everyone is on the same page with hook

[@georgeeastwood6930]

I’m so glad that they aren’t just the same character with the same arch, just with different names.

[@jbcatz5]

Pan and the Lost Boys get called out on their shit as well, not taking anything seriously (although their motives do become in deadly earnest).

[@skootergirl22]

She had to grow up fast

[@DanGamingFan2406]

This is one of my favorite Disney sequels. I love the stuff from the the book it adds and how grim it gets at times. And I really like how Jane is written.

[@watershipup7101]

Agreed. Definitely one of the better ones.

[@genjis5155]

Yeah, I like how her arc is kind of a reverse of Wendy's from the first movie.

[@garnetbird7557]

Yep, the pop songs are a bit much, but other than that, it's really underrated.

[@kdusel1991]

​@@watershipup7101 agreed! It's surprisingly not that bad.

[@kdusel1991]

​@@garnetbird7557 I wish they used phil Collins or did original music like the original

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

Fun Fact: The Lost Boys' names, never spoken in Peter Pan (1953), are revealed in this film: Slightly (Fox Costume), Nibs (Rabbit Costume), The Twins (Raccoon Costumes), Cubby (Bear Costume) and Toodles (Skunk Costume). They come from J.M. Barrie's writings.

[@EarthwormShandy]

Not true

[@amitaikatz5929]

The only exception is Cubby; who's name was changed from Curlie.

[@ZackRToler]

@@EarthwormShandy Just in case, I doubled check, and what they state is true

[@gamestop15]

Huh...​@@EarthwormShandy

[@foxtoons1999]

Toodles was also the one Lost Boy who was adopted and grew up in “Hook”.

[@shadowldrago]

I do quite like the "will not hurt a hair on Peter Pan's head" loophole.

[@ewormXD]

I like the implication that Hook hates Peter Pan so much he wants to make the rest of his HAIR hurt. It's very Hook in its literally unreasonable intensity.

[@shadowldrago]

@@ewormXD Hook has never, at any point, had any chill whatsoever.

[@JohnSkao]

That was literally the only part i remembered from the movie before i watched it again recently

[@trinaq]

"I'll Try" is such a gut wrenching song, since it conveys Jane having to grow up too fast, due to living in World War II, and missing out on her childhood.

[@matityaloran9157]

Agreed

[@kylemorello4787]

Also, I'd argue that, while the songs do sound like 2000 pop songs, the songs in the original also have a 50s pop song vibe.

[@WreckInSilenceRecords]

@@kylemorello4787 yeah, but that's just because that style happened to be what was mainstream at that time, but the songs themselves are timeless because the idea of what a "pop song" was hadn't really been defined yet as they were just coming out of the big band era into early rock n roll during this film's release (1953). So the original songs still hold up today because of the genuine sincerity and memorabillity as they weren't written with the intent of solely selling records with the movie as an afterthought.

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

There were no iPhones back then, she'd miss out on the exact same childhood she would miss out on today. Like dodging trigger warnings until she's 24 and in college, what a childhood.

[@kylemorello4787]

@@WreckInSilenceRecords well, either way, I still liked I'll Try. It's a song about how Jane has lost her sense of childlike wonderment due to the struggles in her life. An emo ballad seems appropriate for that. As for the others, their rendition of Second Star to the Right was meh, ending the film with a licensed song line Do You Believe in Magic is really odd for a Disney film to do, but I guess it fits the films themes, my thoughts on the Lost Boys song is the same as Doug's, and Smees ditty that goes from praising Hook to mocking him- is one of the funniest parts of the movie. Honestly, maybe if there were more songs in the film of different tones and moods to fit the scene they're accommodating like in the first film, people wouldn't complain about the pop aesthetic that much. Say what you will about the Phil Collins songs in Tarzan and Brother Bear, but at least there were a bunch of them and they all had a multitude of tones that gave you an idea of what's happening in the film. Son of a Man sounds like a song about a kid growing into his own. You'll Be in My Heart sounds like a sentimental lullaby a parent would sing to their kid. On My Way sounds like a bouncy road trip song. Welcome sounds like a family reunion song. And, honestly, even if Tarzan WAS a musical, I can actually see the rock opera aesthetic working for this story of a half naked man living with gorillas. Something about that premise does scream rock and roll to me. I mean, Phil Collins song "In the Air Tonight" did accompany a Cadbury commercial featuring a gorilla, didn't it?

[@LegendPurpleDragon152]

11:32 Hook (Grinning from ear to ear): “Aaah, the old ‘I never get to see my mother’ story works every time! (Hook frowns) “Why does nobody ever realize that’s just me in a dress?”

[@Jeremy_theGent]

_(Whispering)_ 🎵Danny Phantom🎵

[@ErinChappel]

Mr. Lancer.

[@00ammy00]

Nice reference

[@CinemaSongscovers]

I see I'm not the only one who got that.

[@johnathanholmes1297]

Instant memory regain.

[@Omar-wq9dz]

Of all the Disney animated sequels, this was rare in the fact it wasn’t that bad

[@trinaq]

Agreed, I grew up with this movie more than the original, and I could recite it word for word.

[@kristinahuchison2511]

Same. Personally I enjoyed this one so much more than the original movie. I loved Tinkerbell wasn’t a jealous b*tch constantly trying to actually murder Wendy and Peter Pan was a lot more likable. In the original movie I always found him to be more of a prankster and constantly making fun of Wendy, especially the part where the mermaids tried drowning her and he laughed it off as a joke

[@zachscarbrough2727]

@@kristinahuchison2511 Yeah, Peter was kind of a sociopath back then.

[@geoffreyrichards6079]

@@zachscarbrough2727 Believe it or not, that was accurate to the original source material.

[@kristinahuchison2511]

@@geoffreyrichards6079 I mean, even Walt Disney himself said he hated Peter as a character. He mainly made the movie because it’s popularity of the play. I seriously never got why so mamy people liked Tinkerbell when she’s such a jealous brat in the movie and even endangered Peter himself to get rid of all of the Darlings. In the Disney Fairies franchise she is so much more likable and it doesn’t even mention Peter Pan or Neverland at all

[@oldspice051]

One scene I love from this movie: when Peter and the Lost Boys are discussing schemes for getting Jane to believe in Tinker Bell, the first thing Cubby does is grab a big club and say "We'll MAKE her believe!"

[@lilenwasnothere6867]

and peter immediately takes it and whacks him on the head with it

[@StarWritterSW]

Fun fact: in the Brazilian dub, Lauro Fabiano (who sadly passed away last year and the voice of Peter Pan in the original movie) was the narrator and Orlando Drummond (who had the record for oldest VA ever active. He passed away in 2021 at the age of 101 years) who voiced Smee in the original movie came back to voice the character in the sequel

[@darthstarkiller1912]

Wow. That is cool.

[@matheusmariani3108]

Granted he sounds way older, but in all seriousness, his voice in the sequel fits Smee way more than when he was younger in the original folm

[@StarWritterSW]

@@matheusmariani3108 When Sora was announced for Smash in 2021, I wanted to watch some Disney movies I haven't seen in ages. Both Peter Pan movies were included. When I heard Lauro's voice, I felt that was beautiful. When I heard Orlando's, who was an idol for me and a huge inspiration to pursue the Voice Acting dream, in the year he passed away... I almost cried

[@princessthyemis]

101?!?!!? Wow!!! Rest in peace! What a legend! That's amazing!

[@julialevelle6384]

When I was six years old, I secretly cut my hair to look like Jane's in the movie. I did a horrible job and tried to hide the hair under my kitchen table. My mother saw me and she took me immediately to a hairstylist, and she gave me a bob. Those few years with short, short hair were awful, hahaha! Having not completely learned my lesson, I then tried to cut my little sister's hair short underneath the kitchen table. I got caught before I did too much damage, though! XD

[@greg4194]

No, you learned your lesson the first time, you just hadn't learned your sister's lesson yet

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

A Casting Fact: Kathryn Beaumont was originally suggested to play adult Wendy, since she played young Wendy in the original Peter Pan.

[@abigailalexis735]

that would have worked!

[@anth636]

Was she too busy voicing for Kingdom Hearts?

[@S.K.R.E.Inc.]

She actually recorded all her lines in advance, but for some reason, they weren't utilized. It would have given the beginning scenes a bit more oomph

[@patrickdornoff2735]

@@S.K.R.E.Inc. She must have sounded too old and they recast her with Kath Soucie instead

[@SuperMoviemaster21]

@@anth636And yet why was she able to return for that and not for this, especially when they both came out the same year?!

[@fablethewolf825]

If there's one real problem I have with this movie, it's Peter being aware of how girls get around him, as well as passively flirting with Jane, as this flies (heh) in the face of his entire character. The whole idea of Peter is that, as a side effect of never growing up, he's pretty much emotionally stunted and _can't_ return any of the girls' feelings because that would count as growing up; one of the books says the question 'what do you want to be when you grow up' is the beginning of the end for childhood because it prompts children to think about the future, which is what starts the process. This is also why he appears so callous and amoral, because to develop a conscience is to mature, and to mature is to grow up. The 2003 movie actually did a great job with this, with Wendy openly having a crush on Peter and him panicking at the idea and accusing her of wanting to 'make' him grow up.

[@GlitchyHalo]

It’s also funny to see that Wendy only wanted to leave when she was jealous of Tiger Lily getting close with Peter 😭

[@lilenwasnothere6867]

well, the movie does diverge from the original stories in that it gives peter character development. the way he acts in rtn is a direct result of his experiences with the darlings in the first film. so it makes sense that he also put two and two together and realized that girls being mad at him being with another girl= jealousy, and he likes the attention. for what it's worth, the way he brags about it is still very child-like and he did like tiger lily in the og. with peter being more emotionally mature (gasp), he might now understand the effect he has on girls, even if he doesn't fully grasp romance yet. his flirty banter with jane is also pretty middle school crush level and he does appear to like her as well. so i guess in this version he just didn't like wendy like that, lmao.

[@singer2be256]

I never noticed him flirting with Jane

[@thebeavpercabethftw9604]

​@lilenwasnothere6867 Also, we usually don't see Peter Pan post-the original Story in adaptions. The only continuations are Return to Neverland and Hook. So I think it's fair for him to get a little development.

[@claytonrios1]

"Hello Wendy." -Captain Hook That line was etched into my brain when I saw the excellent trailer for this film back in the day.

[@sakunaruful]

I remember this too.

[@jareththegoblinking3191]

“Curses! Bring her down!”

[@luckyplayz4171]

That Line Always Sent Chills Up My Spine When I Anticipated The Scene Jane Gets Kidnapped

[@mindsplosion7198]

I’m sure someone said this already, but the reason the twins are just “The twins” is they have no names in the book cause they’re treated like one person. Pan doesn’t know what twins are and no one can know more then he does, the book also states that no one knows which is which and any attempt to describe them would result in you likely describing the wrong one

[@animefan77]

Hook: What are these weird flying machines doing here? Jane: It's has something to do with a thing called concentration camps… minutes later- Hook: Jeez, and I thought an evil pirate cad like me was evil! Smee: I'm seeing an oppressively dark educational film about this in the future.

[@frillydress]

Lmao I red this in their voices

[@georgeeastwood6930]

Like “Education Fir Death”.

[@kellyntaylor8184]

Now I’m just imagining Peter and Tink hiding in the background to make their dramatic appearance, but then slowly realize why Jane is like the way she is.

[@maxmeidl4909]

I never quite understood why they switched out the crocodile with the octopus, but I don’t mind it too much.

[@darkside9547]

Maybe the Crocodile passed away or got killed by Captain Hook in a surprised attack.

[@thebeavpercabethftw9604]

@maxmeidl4909 I feel like if it got a third movie Hook would be dealing with a Shark in that one.

[@alvaroperez2349]

Weirdly enough, this was my first exposure to Peter Pan when I was younger.

[@ridercrusader01julian65]

SAAAAAAAAAME

[@fashionablechangeling2003]

Same, I thought it was the first movie as a kid and was very confused

[@galaxy_kitten95]

It’s not all that strange. This was also my first exposure to the character (as it was with a couple other Disney characters during this time frame) but anyone who’s a 2000s kid… this era of Disney was inescapable.

[@GlittleLoveMJ4ever]

Same^^

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

Me too.

[@norsebrony346]

Can we just point out that this movie is set during the blitz which started in 1940 and the original story is set in 1904 at that time Wendy is meant to be 12 or 13. So lets just say for the sake of things she's 13 when she meets Peter and we can say that it's 1940 when this film is taking place, especially when you consider that we see the father leave for war now, this movie takes place 36 years after the first film which means by that margin Wendy is 49 years old in this. That's some impressive youth treatment she's doing and the fact she is still able to have healthy children is impressive only having jane 12 years prior which would still put her at 37 years of age by that time in a woman's life having kids would be starting to get difficult especially when you consider this was before modern medicine. And I checked to make sure when researching this to be specific on the disney version and it confirmed 12-13 in 1904. Wow.

[@RosyLanderos]

In the original novel is in 1904,in the original movie it is established in 1908 (confirmed) and Wendy would be 13-14 years old and the sequel sit is established in 1940,she would be 45-46 years old. And she she could have had Jane at 34 years in 1928 and Daniel at 42 years old in 1936 and where in the sequel takes place,Daniel’s birthday at 4 years old in 1940.

[@norsebrony346]

@@RosyLanderos so yeah too old to have kids not impossible but the medical practices back then were not good especially during war time

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

You know it's kind of nice to see a Disney Sequel actually try and put in some sort of effort to be good

[@ryanstauffer119]

This and “The Lion King 1 1/2” are the best direct to video films Disney made

[@sweethistortea]

As a little girl, it broke my heart to see the scene where Jane goes into the shelter with her family. I didn’t fully understand at the time what was going on, but it stuck with me as a kid.

[@nightmarearcade2663]

Honestly the scene between, Wendy and, Peter is something that I feel is one of the few reason this film is remembered. It isn't bad at all it's just ok. But that scene man, I swear if you told me this whole movie was made just for that scene alone I'd accept it.

[@Bucky07]

Omigosh, I used to tell people all the time that I thought this movie was destined for a home video release, until Disney saw that final scene and said 'nope, this one's going theatrical!' Despite absolutely no evidence, this is what I still believe today...

[@Bucky07]

I worked in a theater when this movie was released, and every chance I could I would sneak in to see the final scene, when Peter reunites with Wendy. I didn't love Return to Neverland as a whole, but I did love that brief, barely a minute long scene. It is magical, and wonderful in a way that every Disney movie should be...

[@hairltabbjr94]

The scene with Peter and Wendy gets me teary eyed 😊❤

[@TellyKNetic]

In the semi-canon book sequel, Peter Pan in Scarlet, the twins are given names: Marmaduke and Binky. They acknowledge that these are terrible names, but they're still happy to have them. Peter didn't know what twins were, so the twins weren't allowed to know anything about themselves while in Neverland.

[@soul6733]

Oh my, I loved this movie as a kid and I still like it a lot nowadays. The final scen between Wendy and Peter Pan still touches my heart. And I liked Jane and understood why she could appear harsher than needed and almost bratty, since you know SHE'S A KID LIVING DURING WORLD WAR II. Seriously, the part at the start where she travel London while the bombing is happening still chills me. As for the music, I don't mind them, I actually like them overall. I don't think they're the best, but far from disliking them.

[@veronicapiccinini7956]

Peter Pan: “What happens if you don’t grow up and mature: you become care-less, and an hedonist” Return to Neverland: “What happens if you grow up too fast: you become cynical, skeptical and lose hope and innocence.”

[@ukhistorian]

15:03 Hey, Flying in Kingdom hearts was better than swimming.

[@tommyfishhouse8050]

I don't think it's a good movie. But I love the scene where Hook abducts Jane during the freaking Blitz and almost crashes into the RAF. I can only imagine what the pilots had to say to dispatch when they got back to the airfield. "So you say you almost crashed into a (reads paper) flying pirate ship? Okay lads, which one of you's been drinking?"

[@PhoenixGamerxx96]

Fun Fact: Kathryn Beaumont, the original voice of Wendy in Peter Pan (1953) also recorded Wendy's dialogue for Return to Neverland. However, Beaumont was originally considered to play adult Wendy in the sequel, but was not cast.

[@SuperMoviemaster21]

And yet, she actually returned for the first kingdom hearts which came out the same year……

[@kdusel1991]

​@@SuperMoviemaster21 didn't she play both Wendy and Alice in those games?

[@SuperMoviemaster21]

@@kdusel1991 Yep yep yep, reprising her original rules! :-)

[@kdusel1991]

​@@SuperMoviemaster21 nice!

[@ShyGuy83]

I read somewhere that Ms. Beaumont’s voice was getting a little old by that point and so Disney had no choice but to recast the Wendy character with someone younger like Kath Soucie.

[@SMG001Nick]

7:49 I LOVE THAT CALLBACK

[@thephantomsplit]

This was NOT on my bingo card of the Disney Sequels, XD Honestly, I can't wait to see you tackle other Disney Sequels in the future!

[@nattyice23]

0:50 for real, people need to check out the actual Second Jungle Book. There’s a whole chapter of Mowgli and Kaa teaming up to slaughter an invading tribe of feral dogs. The books were epic and metal as hell

[@van8ryan]

One of the reasons I love Peter seeing adult Wendy is that, at first, it's a misdirect. Peter's hiding away from Wendy, so you think they're not going to meet up again..........and then, he just flies up right to her face. The dialogue is also very minimum. It's more an exchange of looks and "Play" which makes it in a way both "timeless" but also sweet-natured. I also love the look of shock Tinker Bell gives Peter when she realizes Wendy still believes in her.

[@cjrebirth]

I honestly enjoy this movie, and i remember seeing this in theaters as a kid. I loved Corey Burton's voice as Captain Hook, grown Wendy's moment with Peter at the end, and the archive audio from the first movie when they're going to Neverland

[@EmilyTheManx]

Not gonna lie, I still enjoy this sequel just as much as the original. I did appreciate how it touched on particular themes of how kids would look on enjoying things during their childhood when they're surrounded by severe, dangerous situations like these out of their and their family's control. Also, I loved the song at 5:33. Sue me. 😝

[@OmegaChance27]

I'd say that there is a lot worse Disney Sequels. It doesn't harm the original in any way, and adds to the story pretty well.

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

One Last Fact: Reportedly, there were plans for a third film that involved Peter Pan, as a grown-up and middle-aged man who decides to live in England for many years and then is wanted back to Neverland. It was a similar story premise used in Hook. But when John Lasseter became the new creative chief officer of Disney Animation Studios, the ideas were scrapped (along with other planned Disney sequels). However, many Tinkerbell spinoff movies were made instead.

[@monstercombo007]

Isn't that just the plot from "Hook"?

[@TheBandit025Nova]

Don’t mention John Lasseter he’s dead man

[@GlitchyHalo]

Im said they shut down Disney Toons as they made the Tinkerbell movies and there were a few more planned after Neverbeast including one where she met Peter as Pirate Fairy had young Captain Hook

[@AJ-xc4qe]

Fun fact: this was one of the 21 2nd movie installments released in 2002! I had to go to Wikipedia for every single one of those movies, find a video review for those movies and put them together in a playlist! And every time I thought I was done, I find out I forgot to include a movie on the list! It was the most exhausting thing I’d ever done!

[@princessthyemis]

wow, that's a ton of sequels for one year!

[@ShyGuy83]

I had read somewhere that Kathryn Beaumont had originally recorded lines for Wendy, but her voice sounded too old, so Disney had to get Kath Soucie to play her instead. I honestly don’t know if that’s the same reason Soucie got replaced by Zendaya after she originally recorded all her lines for Lola Bunny in Space Jam 2, but then again, Soucie is 70 years old now, and her voice might not sound the same as it once did. We also haven’t heard from her much in recent years.

[@BLMT-df4on]

3:50 disney version of the pianist

[@DarkOverlord96]

Maybe it's because I am a 2000s kid and I watched this movie a lot on VHS but I do have a soft spot for 2000s pop songs, they just sound so magically nostalgic to me! Also, it's a small thing, but it does makes me smile nowadays whenever the Critic references Kingdom Hearts while reviewing a Disney movie, that's like something I remember wanting to see when I was younger.

[@micshork]

I remember seeing this in theaters as a kid. I even got the McDonalds toys that let you build a pirate ship. Too bad McDonalds happy meal toys aren’t what they used to be.

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

Another Fun Fact: Roger Rees (Edward), Frank Welker (Nana II, Octopus), Jim Cummings (Turk), and Clive Revill (officer, narrator) were the only ones of the voice cast alive at the time the original film was released in 1953. Cummings was just a mere three months old.

[@jordanhunter3375]

...Which one was Turk?

[@DDarkestKnight]

The only thing I remember is the trailer where she goes "I'm her daughter JANE!"

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

6:26 the pilots: was that a flying Ship?! At least one of them: War is really making me SEE things 15:40 Scenes between a character who aged, and one who didn't

[@JY_Studios]

If I had a nickel for every animated film that was released in the 21st century that started a fairytale character that took place during WWII, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.

[@dankiumzed2831]

what was the other one?

[@theautisticcomedian]

@@dankiumzed2831 The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe.

[@dankiumzed2831]

@@theautisticcomedian oh yeah! But wait, narnia's not a fairy tale?

[@JY_Studios]

@@dankiumzed2831 Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio

[@diamondknight8587]

@@theautisticcomedianThat wasn’t animated, at least not Disney’s version.

[@JMDarkly1]

I love that ending with Adult Wendy and Peter talking. There's just a warm but bittersweet feeling to it, exactly like an adult finding something from their childhood that brought them joy and finding they can still feel a little bit of that old feeling. Its still there, but will never be as strong as it once was.

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

Another Fun Fact: Jeff Bennett replaced Corey Burton as Mr. Smee part way through production, with Burton solely focusing on Hook in the final film. Bennett would then remain the consistent voice of Mr. Smee and take on the roles of the other characters who'd been originally voiced by the Late Bill Thompson (like The White Rabbit and King Hubert) in the years to come.

[@EinherjarV]

Okay if Hook wants to get pedantic lol. Plucking the hair from his head would harm the hair by either snaping it, or breaking the roots when he pulled it out. Thus breaking his contract.

[@geardog24]

Seriously, what was the point of replacing the crocodile with an octopus? Did the writers think that little Timmy would really get scared by a ticking reptile?

[@autobotproductions1244]

Apparently the writers felt they ran out of material for the croc so they swapped him with the octopus

[@OriginalPiMan]

My guess is that they wanted to show off how much better they could animate than 50 years earlier, by choosing a more complicated animal. The croc was somewhat iconic, but not irreplaceable, at least in the eyes of the writers.

[@Tygermite]

I agree. Another aspect of what makes the crocodile iconic is the ticking. The crocodile is meant to represent death, the ticking symbolizing Hook's age catching up to him. It took the whole youth vs old aspect to a deep degree. With the octopus, only thing you get out of it is the Kraken but even then, it's just a giant predator. The crocodile was more than a predator. Also, Tick Tock had a genuine personality. He was a bit of a clumsy croc, and was dead set on eating just Captain Hook. Could get annoyed when his food fails to fall into the water. And as Smee said, he had manners.

[@RoseBaggins]

That was my biggest gripe with this movie, the one thing that lowered it to me, more than the songs, and that was replacing Tick Tock with an octopus. I liked that crocodile. 😑😔

[@hunterolaughlin]

8:37 - 8:39 Great! Now I’m just picturing Cubby at Captain Hook’s wheel going “Leedle-Leedle-Lee!” 😂

[@FinallyImIn1]

You’d never think that the voice of Wendy in this movie also voiced Lola Bunny in Space Jam, wouldn’t you?

[@eternyti]

"Second Star to the Right" is honestly a beautiful song, 2002 pop or not. Fight me.

[@jbcatz5]

The original phrase doesn’t use the word star, it’s just “second to the right and straight on till morning.” Disney introduced the word star into it.

[@ekmalsukarno2302]

Hi Doug, it would mean a lot to me if you reviewed these following movies: - Wild Thornberrys Movie (starring Tim Curry and Lacey Chabert) - Blast from the Past (starring Brendan Fraser and Christopher Walken) - Undercover Brother (starring Neil Patrick Harris and Dave Chappelle) - Igor (an animated film starring John Cusack and Steve Buscemi) - Spiderwick Chronicles (starring Freddie Highmore and Seth Rogen) - Penelope (starring Christina Ricci and James McAvoy) - Aliens in the Attic (starring Kevin Nealon and Doris Roberts) - The 10th Kingdom (a miniseries starring John Larroquette and Dianne Wiest) Thank you very much and please accept my requests.

[@BethGoth15]

I second Penelope!

[@ryanstauffer119]

I’d love a “Blast From the Past” review by Doug. I watched that for the first time last year, mostly since it was the 25th anniversary. Brendan Fraser made me laugh so hard right when he shouted how the adult video store had poison gas😂 And I hope Doug reviews “Aliens in the Attic” eventually. This year’s the 15th anniversary. Even though Ricky’s a jerk, he’s the best thing of the movie. How can him being remote controlled by the kids not make us laugh? Literally him being controlled at the end of the movie had a group of high school girls laughing as we were exiting the theater. I’d say that last part with Ricky shouting in pain is my favorite part in the whole movie.

[@finnkedinn]

02:52 "the songs aren't timeless like in the original" uhmmm... what makes the red man red?

[@TwistedChungus]

You can't say people don't remember it. Not necessarily for good reasons, but it's definitely REMEMBERED.

[@aidanhever3369]

Speaking of which, Hook's mom did show up in Jake and the Neverland Pirates, and the octopus from this movie also returned.

[@samflood5631]

I too felt that these early 2000s pop songs basically ruin a lot of the emotional moments of this movie. I mean, was that song really needed after Jane blew up at her mother and lashed out at her little brother due to all of the trauma and hardship she had to endure in World War 2? Her father’s been drafted into a war he might not survive, some of her friends might have been killed during the bombings, the place she grew up in is now in ruins and she and her brother have to moved to the countryside for her safety while her mother might be killed back in London. This generic pop song doesn’t fit the mood of what Jane is going through during one of the worst moments in this world’s history. Imagine if there were pop songs in a movie about the hardships of the Covid Pandemic.

[@matityaloran9157]

4:07, she’s also called Jane in the book

[@DarkMoonStarsong]

Peter and Wendy seeing each other again always brought tears to my eyes...

[@SJ_RANKS]

I actually like the pop songs in this movie particularly Second star to the right And Do you believe in magic They slap 22 years later

[@JuttyTheClown]

I loved Return to Neverland as a kid! It was more Peter Pan, which was a plus, and had lovely story and music! I of course was a kid and just heard nice singing and was ok with it lol Nowadays I'm not a fan of the pop songs but I can appreciate the singing. My favorite part was when Hook shows back up, the whole war scenes, and of course the ending with adult Wendy.

[@jareththegoblinking3191]

3:22 Kinda makes me wish we had a sci-fi adaptation of Peter Pan Hey it worked when it was Treasure Planet, why not this?

[@ninjabunnywholivesinsideaw8216]

This is honestly my third favorite forgotten Disney sequal! Number one is Lion King 2:Simba's Pride, and number two is Cinderella 3: a Twist in Time! I think Return to Neverland is legit good!

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

It's honestly kind of wild and insane how many different forms of media Peter Pan has been in throughout the years

[@YourNeighborhoodWitch]

I always loved this movie. It was fun and nice. I also appreciated the differences between Jane and Wendy. Wendy's growing up too soon due to her parents' deciding that it's what she needs to do. Jane is growing up too soon due to the world around her changing in a new and unpredictable way. Both cases showcase why they feel lost, but the reasonings behind them are just so effective. Neither had a choice, but one clinging to childhood and one embracing maturity really shows how the world has changed between the two films. Jane is really a wonderful character and her change doesn't feel forced. She is allowed to be a child for the first time in what seemed to be years and, while she doesn't embrace it for most of the film, I always saw that as an extension of fear. If she gives in, if she allows the joy and immaturity in, she is terrified that she will never be able to protect her brother. She feels like she must stay in control of the situation, no matter what. Maybe I'm just reading into it, but I get the feeling that she has a sense of dread due to the unpredictability of the world that she grew up in. Her decision to believe in Tink was such a big moment for the character: she is choosing fun. She is allowing herself to lose control, let someone else take the reigns, and it matters so much.

[@kaylaadjekum6270]

A great Disney Sequel!!

[@rynobud77]

5:23 If that’s supposed to mean that the voice actor who played Wendy also played Sally, that’s a real mind blower for me.

[@akirayamaguchithekitsune4010]

2:19 also mention Peter Pan Neverland Nightmare

[@HolaMundoTheMisteriousAG]

14:07 *Tinkerbell movies fans:* Well, get used to it

[@user-dr2yz8um3d]

Doug, you missed the movies 20th anniversary 2 years ago I actually love the Jesse McCartney cover song for I’ll Try, so much so it was popular on radio Disney The song Do You Believe in Magic during the end credits is a classic You are right, tentacles mean things to other people and we can thank Japanese anime for that I do appreciate the filmmakers moved the story forward and it’s nice to know they incorporated more elements from the original book That Patrick Star clip 😂😂😂

[@masonsamvsandmemes5114]

12:00 was my favorite edit. You had me rolling with that one doug

[@Solo_Sessums]

7:20 what no "ten tentacle" jokes? "Play me off, paul"? Dang.

[@louisduarte8763]

1:04 That's what I never got about the DTV sequels: WHY cheap out on the animation quality compared to the 1st one? And how do you make a sequel to "Hunchback"? Didn't they read the book?! 1:46 That one had TIM CURRY as Capt. Hook, didn't it? If so, must I resort to PIRACY to watch that again?! 5:06 DOCTOR WHO Can attest to that. 6:45 And both the RAF AND the Luftwaffe go "WTF?!" at a flying pirate ship. 7:30 Maybe Hook finally killed the Croc, like in "Hook". 8:12 Which would involve time-travel. 9:24 Neverland And Wonderland? Did Disney make THAT crossover?!

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

Another Fun Fact: Kathryn Beaumont (the voice of Wendy in the original 1953 film) revealed in an interview that she did originally record all the dialogue for the grown Wendy character. But for unexplained reasons, Kath Soucie's recordings ended up being used instead. It's assumed that it was because her voice sounded elderly or there was simply no good reason to use hers.

[@ShyGuy83]

Same thing happened when Disney replaced Sterling Holloway with Jim Cummings for Winnie the Pooh back in 1988. Holloway was getting too old at that point, and close to his inevitable passing, so Disney had no choice but to get Cummings to voice the character.

[@singer2be256]

The fact that this movie takes place during a time Walt Disney lived through adds a little extra intrigue for me

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

Another Fun Fact: Although most of the voices of returning characters closely imitate the voices from Peter Pan (1953), the voice of Cubby (the Lost Boy in a bear suit) is noticeably different. Child actor Spencer Breslin gives him a high-pitched voice rather than his deep, funny "oafish" voice done by an adult male from the original and his other appearances (aside from his cameo in Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers.

[@CornishCreamtea07]

16:40 I remmeber him thinking highly of some of the ones on the right, like Bambi II and Tazran 11, along with the Lilo and Stich sequels.

[@anth636]

13:58 so he found Pennywise?

[@djnorris1572]

WWAAAAA ha ha ha!

[@kristinahuchison2511]

To me, this was definitely one of the better sequels. Not my favorite, but I actually liked this one over the original movie so much more. And I actually really enjoyed the pop music used, specifically I’ll Try, Do You Believe in Magic, and the redone version of The Second Star to the Right. I even liked this story at least tried to be respectful to its original movie and books instead of just making stuff up. And I also really enjoyed how Wendy was portrayed as a mother who despite growing up never lost her inner child and that’s why she’s able to meet Peter one more time and fly with the fairy dust. Really, the only problem I had was why Tock the Croc got replaced with this dumb octopus??

[@angelofmusic1992]

I will admit this is one of the better Disney sequels, but I feel like I like moments or parts of this film rather than the whole thing. Like the parts with the WW2 setting, the pirate ship flying through London, Peter and Wendy meeting at the end, I've rewatched those bits a lot. But stuff like replacing the crocodile with the octopus and the corny pop songs make me cringe.

[@EmiaRaine]

This movie was part of my childhood. I copied it off tv (Saturday's were always filled with Disney) and watched it a ton. Plus, I'll Try was one of my favourite Disney songs, so I've got a major soft spot for it. The movie's definitely better than it could be, but I also acknowledge it's got flaws too, though I don't feel they're massively. And yeah, that end scene between Peter and Wendy is wonderful.

[@Mattheman09]

My favorite Disney sequel growing up 😢❤

[@JarodFarrant]

Thanks for everything, Doug & gang!

[@ChannelAwesome]

Thanks for watching and the support!!!

[@JarodFarrant]

@@ChannelAwesome please review courage the cowardly dog for Halloween 🎃

[@darthstarkiller1912]

That Narnia reference was spot on. Didn't expect this review.

[@calvinmatthews1527]

When you frame it like that, yes, Return to Never Land does have some things going for it. Unlike most direct-to-video Disney sequels, this one has a fair bit of care put into it. And Corey Burton is one of my childhood voices. The amount of work this man has under him is insane. Can't believe he plays Count Dooku.

[@abloogywoogywoo]

Pirates: can handle the atrocities of the Second World War where millions of people died. Also Pirates: can't handle a f**king cartoon octopus. Whatever you say Disney.

[@alorapendrak9752]

given the history of pirates that tracks most of them jumped ship and became pirates because the queen's navy was so horrific. But a giant octopus no good seaman was messing with that!

[@Tygermite]

The thing is that the kraken in legends was one of the most dreaded creatures of the ocean. But as cool as it is, the crocodile is still better because it fits in the story better. The crocodile representing death and the ticking representing the time Hook has left to live.

[@alorapendrak9752]

@@Tygermite oh no I agree maybe there was some weird copyright issue though.

[@rogeliorocha7221]

Hearing “The Second Star To The Right” again unlocked memories. Even though it does take away from the timelessness I remember loving the music in this movie as a kid.