East Asia Tonight: Prabowo says Indonesia will always defend sovereignty after SCS deal with China

Also on East Asia Tonight (Nov 14), leaders head to APEC summit overshadowed by Trump 2.0; investors not impressed by China tax cuts to boost property market; and young Koreans including K-pop stars sit for "killer pressure" college entrance exams.

[@vicentvanmole]

western airline withdraw from China isn't because of China ,but solely result of their own wrong action /policy to sanction Russia & then had to take an extended route which cost more $$ .SO they cannot & should not blame on China .While any countries friends with Russia has no such problem !

[@calvinblue894]

China is doing what China needs to do USA is doing what USA needs to do Indonesia is doing what Indonesia needs to do.. UNDERSTAND THIS.. AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE GAME

[@happymelon7129]

1oo% correct. 😂only PH is d,,,b follow other agenda

[@bang4buck326]

Please educate EU in this regard... They don't seem to play the game very well, especially Germany....

[@happymelon7129]

@@bang4buck326 Strange things do happen in Germany. The one that provided cheap energy is called “Enemy”. -RU The one that destroyed the flow of cheap energy is called “Friend”. -U$ The one that buy German's products the most is called “threat”. -CN The one that keeps helping her “Friend” to continue destroying her own country is called “Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen”.

[@louistan7560]

All should defend their own sovereignty, particularly from US interference. The US-created South China Sea issues can be resolved amongst and between members in the region and with China.

[@ramongarcia-oc4fv]

we love peace but I will depend

[@AhmetTekin101]

The final interpretation from the Award section of the Hague Tribunal 2016 ruling: - China 🇨🇳 is entitled to *zero sovereighty* in the SCS.

[@AhmetTekin101]

@@Blixey-r9z No misunderstanding about Chinese lies! ​Have you read UNCLOS or the Hague Tribunal 2016 ruling? Don't talk nonsense if you know nothing about them.

[@Blixey-r9z]

@ my dear little CIA-backed Indian propagandist, as I have pointed out many times, you reading the decision or treaty is useless if you lack the capacity to speak the truth or understand it.

[@AhmetTekin101]

@@Blixey-r9z Do you want to talk about the truth? Let's do it!

[@AhmetTekin101]

@@Blixey-r9z Have you read UNCLOS or the Hague Tribunal ruling? Your Chinese opinion is not helpful. What's in the UNCLOS and Hague Ruling writing is important for an intelligent discussion. You can't discuss this issue without reading and undestanding them.

[@上正止]

@@Blixey-r9z He didn’t know that sham hearing are sponsored by US and Japanese and collaborate with the Philippines who hire those judges after they were off work. It was not reported on mainstream propaganda but there are always sources to get pragmatic analysis.

[@ramongarcia-oc4fv]

Ophir land of God❤

[@freeflowtrader]

Wow Singapore is such a strategically important nation that can make China and America give up its core interests.(this is just saying you gotta be real and give up fantasies)

[@jasonchen5994]

I only recently came across this channel. I find that most media from Singapore are objective and neutral. This is refreshing in this bipolar time.

[@ramongarcia-oc4fv]

we love ouvery own

[@ArabicReja973]

*International laws* are very clear on the South China Sea: - parts of it belong to some ASEAN countries including the Philippines 🇵🇭 and Indonesia 🇮🇩, - the rest of it is the international water, - no part of it belongs to China🇨🇳 or Taiwan🇹🇼.

[@Blixey-r9z]

There is a lot of misunderstanding and misinformation about international law and the South China Sea. Below is something to help clear up the misconceptions perpetuated by the media and the Filipino government. I hope people will take time to read and digest it. This is important because the mistaken beliefs about international law and Philippines territory are significant obstacles to peaceful resolution of the SCS dispute. Thanks in advance: The UNCLOS treaty is about the maritime entitlements generated by undisputed sovereign territory. The treaty was never meant to be used to resolve disputes over territorial sovereignty. The South China Sea is a dispute about sovereignty. That is why 1. China exercised her legal right to not submit to arbitration and reject the 2016 PCA UNCLOS decision; 2. The PCA did not make any decision or express any opinion about the sovereignty of maritime features; and 3. The PCA did not rule that China’s sovereignty claims were illegal per se ( the PCA had no jurisdiction to arbitrate on sovereignty ). The PCA could not rule out a possible legal basis for China’s claims . Just as one cannot build a house on a poor foundation, one cannot construct sovereignty claims from a treaty about maritime entitlements generated from disputed territory. The Philippines is abusing the rights and procedures under UNCLOS. This risks delegitimising the treaty and damaging international justice. Sovereignty disputes were usually settled by military or economic might. We hope diplomatic negotiations or international law will be used to settle territorial disputes. However, arbitration over sovereignty requires BOTH parties’ consent; to date, a few sovereignty disputes have been settled by arbitration (eg. Pedra Branca & Middle Rock). To cite the 2016 UNCLOS arbitration as the basis for Philippines’ territorial claims contravenes the fundamental legal principle of state consent for arbitration of sovereignty under customary international law. Law-fare in the ICJ or distorted narratives in the court of public opinion will not get the Philippines anywhere; it will only harden China’s position and provoke more physical confrontation on the high seas. A pragmatic solution to South China Sea disputes embraced by several ASEAN members is to shelve their sovereignty disputes (ie agree to disagree) and pursue agreements of cooperation over South China Sea resources through quiet diplomatic negotiations. This approach, initially suggested by Deng Xiao Peng in 1960, has achieved some progress between competing claimant states. An ASEAN-flavoured analogy to explain the SCS dispute: 2 neighbours with mango trees are arguing about a fallen mango on the ground. They cannot prove which tree the mango fell from. Consider the 3 scenarios below: 1. The neighbours fight, accidentally smash the mango and no one gets to taste it; 2. The neighbours stop arguing and sit down to share the mango in peace; 3. One neighbour decides to ask the village crime boss for help. The crime boss’ thugs take the mango forcibly from the other neighbour. However, the crime boss likes the mango so much he decides to keep the mango, collect protection money and tax all future mango harvests from both trees for himself. Despite sovereignty disputes over maritime features, the freedom of commercial navigation and overflight enjoyed by all states in the South China Sea under international law has never been threatened. The South China Sea currently contains some of the safest and freest sea lanes in the world, with more than 100,000 ships and one third of the world's maritime trade passing through every year. Over 60% of China's foreign trade and energy imports pass through the South China Sea; peace and stability in the South China Sea is as vital to China as any other country. China’s interests lie in ensuring that these sea lanes remain safe and accessible to all.  The UK & the US themselves blatantly defied the UN and ICJ rulings that affirm Mauritius’ sovereignty over Diego Garcia (which the UK took by force) for many years; they only recently negotiated a controversial settlement with the Mauritian government that excluded the original Islanders themselves to grant the UK and US another 99 years of occupation of Diego Garcia against the recommendations of the UN and ICJ court. Filipinos should also note the US herself has not ratified the UNCLOS treaty.

[@dragonred3576]

hahahaha. but China builds fortresses there, you are welcome.

[@z06952]

​@@Blixey-r9zthank you for free valuable information

[@ssrae-2229]

no matter how many times you repeat - nobody will believe in flies ... Oops lies‼️😂

[@harlan3103]

When there's BS involved, your name is always attached to it (insert ArabicReja or AhmetTekin)...

[@damusandy]

With china having his frictional relation with many countries and expanism they have to only look at internal market thats all. God bless them with better wisdom

[@ramongarcia-oc4fv]

Ophir and Israel my house of God in my blood

[@さんふ士]

what high stakes can you expect from a lame duck?

[@Blixey-r9z]

There is a lot of misunderstanding and misinformation about international law and the South China Sea. Below is something to help clear up the misconceptions perpetuated by the media and the Filipino government. I hope people will take time to read and digest it. This is important because the mistaken beliefs about international law and Philippines territory are significant obstacles to peaceful resolution of the SCS dispute. Thanks in advance: The UNCLOS treaty is about the maritime entitlements generated by undisputed sovereign territory. The treaty was never meant to be used to resolve disputes over territorial sovereignty. The South China Sea is a dispute about sovereignty. That is why 1. China exercised her legal right to not submit to arbitration and reject the 2016 PCA UNCLOS decision; 2. The PCA did not make any decision or express any opinion about the sovereignty of maritime features; and 3. The PCA did not rule that China’s sovereignty claims were illegal per se ( the PCA had no jurisdiction to arbitrate on sovereignty ). The PCA could not rule out a possible legal basis for China’s claims . Just as one cannot build a house on a poor foundation, one cannot construct sovereignty claims from a treaty about maritime entitlements generated from disputed territory. The Philippines is abusing the rights and procedures under UNCLOS. This risks delegitimising the treaty and damaging international justice. Sovereignty disputes were usually settled by military or economic might. We hope diplomatic negotiations or international law will be used to settle territorial disputes. However, arbitration over sovereignty requires BOTH parties’ consent; to date, a few sovereignty disputes have been settled by arbitration (eg. Pedra Branca & Middle Rock). To cite the 2016 UNCLOS arbitration as the basis for Philippines’ territorial claims contravenes the fundamental legal principle of state consent for arbitration of sovereignty under customary international law. Law-fare in the ICJ or distorted narratives in the court of public opinion will not get the Philippines anywhere; it will only harden China’s position and provoke more physical confrontation on the high seas. A pragmatic solution to South China Sea disputes embraced by several ASEAN members is to shelve their sovereignty disputes (ie agree to disagree) and pursue agreements of cooperation over South China Sea resources through quiet diplomatic negotiations. This approach, initially suggested by Deng Xiao Peng in 1960, has achieved some progress between competing claimant states. An ASEAN-flavoured analogy to explain the SCS dispute: 2 neighbours with mango trees are arguing about a fallen mango on the ground. They cannot prove which tree the mango fell from. Consider the 3 scenarios below: 1. The neighbours fight, accidentally smash the mango and no one gets to taste it; 2. The neighbours stop arguing and sit down to share the mango in peace; 3. One neighbour decides to ask the village crime boss for help. The crime boss’ thugs take the mango forcibly from the other neighbour. However, the crime boss likes the mango so much he decides to keep the mango, collect protection money and tax all future mango harvests from both trees for himself. Despite sovereignty disputes over maritime features, the freedom of commercial navigation and overflight enjoyed by all states in the South China Sea under international law has never been threatened. The South China Sea currently contains some of the safest and freest sea lanes in the world, with more than 100,000 ships and one third of the world's maritime trade passing through every year. Over 60% of China's foreign trade and energy imports pass through the South China Sea; peace and stability in the South China Sea is as vital to China as any other country. China’s interests lie in ensuring that these sea lanes remain safe and accessible to all.  The UK & the US themselves blatantly defied the UN and ICJ rulings that affirm Mauritius’ sovereignty over Diego Garcia (which the UK took by force) for many years; they only recently negotiated a controversial settlement with the Mauritian government that excluded the original Islanders themselves to grant the UK and US another 99 years of occupation of Diego Garcia against the recommendations of the UN and ICJ court. Filipinos should also note the US herself has not ratified the UNCLOS treaty.

[@fkoff7649]

FAKE NEWS! MISINFORMATION FROM THE CHINESE PAID TROLL.

[@xinzhang6729]

I like the mango.

[@MrSamurailanx]

First and foremost, Ch doesn't own 90% of SCS. You think Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunie, Philipiines, and Indonesia government are ignorant. They have their own EEZ and some of them are overlapping. China was never part of the disputes until you assert your 11 dust line based on historical map. They have also their history but they have legal claims under UNCLOS.

[@vanderingaround1129]

90 % is unjust and unfair .. purely greed and evil headed by your emperor

[@RichMidasPapa]

@@MrSamurailanxFirst of all ，China only claim about 70 percent of entire south china sea not 90 percent. The 9 dashed line is historical rights of China which guaranteed by Chinese domestic law and milittary strength. If those neighboring want to solve south China sea issue . All sides must agree China owns all seas within the 9 dashed lines， then all sides may solve how to find a reasonable solution to get a deal with it. Otherwise， China will solve this issue with force given by domesic law.😊

[@vicentvanmole]

Another misinformation about Indo -China deal is unquestionable ,both side works out with good agreement .To say or doubt it is totally another smear propaganda against the two partnership countries ,as US so hoping for to put out false assumption .As the world has seen what happen to the Philippines provoking all the conflict with US -back !!.By the way only Philippines is the only countries have these kind of conflict , not any other Asian counties !

[@vanderingaround1129]

Well all neighbours of China have disputes with the greedy emperor

[@FRCWPDET]

Deal done = Buy off What is the finer definition of defending sovereignty.

[@lagrangewei]

China and Indonesia never had any soverighty dispute. soverighty only applies to land. there is no overlapping claim on land. people really need to know what the legal definition of these words mean.

[@ssrae-2229]

Singapore in for Philippines support?? 😂😂 No wonder Manila & Singapore both cannot join BRICS while Thailand Malaysia Indonesia Vietnam have all JOINED this Russia + China ++++ Group.

[@LeeSkJohn-sv8wi]

​@@ssrae-2229Singapore and Indonesia is not supporting Philippines nor applied to join BRICS.

[@Fr.VeniceLAI]

Under International laws, no part nor any islands & region of the South-China-Sea belongs to PRChina. However, just like Imperial Empire of Japan in the 1930s, desperate for resources esp. Petroleum Crude Oil, the Imperial Japanese Army invaded countries in the Asia Far East and especially targeting the rich oil fields of the then the Dutch East indies (Indonesia). Are we witnessing a repeat of history, where a growing Asia regional Power needing all types of natural resources to fuel its industries and demands of its military build-up ?? ...and commit and act the unthinkable invade another country, in order to seize the weaker country's rich natural resources, and claim them as its own ??

[@hitthedeck4115]

The militarization of SCS by China is mainly to counter US' containment (through the 1st island chain and a potential Malacca Strait blockade) by giving China some more room, but more resources from the SCS wouldn't hurt.

[@Fr.VeniceLAI]

@@hitthedeck4115 Under International laws, no part nor any islands & region of the South-China-Sea belongs to PRChina. However, just like Imperial Empire of Japan in the 1930s, desperate for resources esp. Petroleum Crude Oil, the Imperial Japanese Army invaded countries in the Asia Far East East and especially targeting the rich oil fields of the then the Dutch East indies (Indonesia). Are we witnessing a repeat of history, where a growing Asia region Power desperately needing all types of natural resources to fuel its industries and demands of its military build-up ??

[@hitthedeck4115]

@@Fr.VeniceLAI The militarization of SCS by China is mainly to counter US' containment (through the 1st island chain and a potential Malacca Strait blockade) by giving China some more room, but more resources from the SCS wouldn't hurt.

[@ColoniaMurder20]

@@hitthedeck4115 if you know about joint exploration between Vietnam, China and Philippines 16 years ago.. you will understand after chinese company discovered huge oil deposit near in Palawan Island in Philippines.. they started claiming everything.. oil deposit found in Reed Bank is huge than in Qatar oil deposit. oil deposit found in Reed Bank capable to fuel China for 100 years. that's why China rushed build artificial islands and militarize to secure oil deposit near in Palawan Island.

[@Fr.VeniceLAI]

@@hitthedeck4115 Precisely, the point of contention, why should PRChina, a Nuclear Super-Power with possession of over 500 Nuclear Weapons, be afraid /be concern of the U.S.A. potential Malacca Strait Blockage, where the U.S.A. has had NEVER since the opening reforms initiated by former Paramount Leader Deng Xiaoping in the 1980s displayed any belligerence towards the PRChina or the Chinese Communist Party, except has continued to support PRChina's economic growth through U.S. Congress Votes (Dec. 27, 2000) granting U.S. permanent Most Favored Nation Trading Status (MFN) to PRChina. Further afterwards, then the U.S. sponsored PRChina accession to Full WTO Membership on December 11, 2001, which opened the vast opportunities for FDIs and private U.S. Foreign Portfolio Funds to invest without any restriction into the PRChina. In reality, the recent increased Geo-Political Tensions have had arisen through the Chinese Communist Party rather aggressive Wolf-Warrior Diplomacy unleashed and obvious belligerence to the Philippines, and especially towards Taiwan R.O.C. an independent Country since its founding on January 1, 1912.

[@1whoQuestions]

US corporations are done taking advantage of China's cheap labor. They are willing to dramatically reduce their profits. 😂😂😂

[@fkoff7649]

U.S. CORPORATIONS ARE DONE WITH CHINA. THE U.S. WAS THE ONE WHO HELPED CHINA'S ECONOMY GROW BY OUTSOURCING ITS MANUFACURING HUBS TO CHINA, BUT WHAT CHINA DID WAS STEAL THEIR TECH, AND CONTINUES TO HATE ON THE U.S. BY SMEARING THE U.S. IT IS RIGHTFUL THE U.S. WITHDREW ITS SUPPORT FROM CHINA.

[@JM-dp7if]

yeah... the indonesian does not Learned of what China did to the Philippines.... CHina pursue to have that deal JOINT EXPLOration... starting to put small post and now a maritime base.. and contesting as its their own... SOON it will happen to you also.... how slow this politicians were to get this... w8 after 5 to 10 years it will strengthen thier strategic MILITARY Post on your shore also and your precious resources if there is any oil or gas... naaaahh.. do you think CCP will share it to you....LMAO...

[@Ffdipedie]

but we know what america is doing there are their allies. there is no peace if you become america's slave.

[@jaytso1883]

Hahaha, what a nice spin in the story. She didn't mention about including arms in the 're-supplying'. Fraudulent non disclosure

[@harry77998]

Is not about Taiwan Chips , Taiwan just advantage for US decoupling China faster , south china sea is a bonus , the MAIN objective of China is keep MALACCA strait open .. is the same reason imperial army invading Malay Peninsula !

[@braydaily]

Manusia didunia ini memang sangat rakus dan tamak,semuanya berusaha merampas kue untuk memenuhi kantong perutnya,sungguh miris.Kiamat sudah semakin dekat,Bertobatlah.!!!

[@ahnandsrisvanksuk9919]

Rejuvenate pls. before work.

[@shin4655]

Kinda hilarious statement given the history of Indonesia that can't even defend a small Timor timor island from Australia navy and it's financial administration from IMF… Malay will be malay…

[@bambangbangshu7371]

You kind of the person without education well. Timor leste was under portugal colonized.... Indonesia only took ex Holland colonized when gain of independent .....so... Learn more... When Indonesia under Suharto presidential.... Indonesia become western proxy... and western ask Indonesia to attack/invation to timor leste

[@normanzefanya]

deffend a small part and being poor country? proud being a muppet? oh yeah the most white statement ive ever seen lol

[@qwenzino6895]

Saya harap anda membaca sejarah atau cerita yang benar tentang timor-timur, anda berasal dari mana? Apa anda ingin berurusan dengan Indonesia sperti yang dikatakan bung Karno, Ganyang malaysia??

[@Ffdipedie]

what does it have to do with Malay? Malay is a weak nation that is not capable of fighting. different from Sundanese, Acehnese, Javanese who are famous for being brave. oh yeah, you don't understand the history of Timor Leste and Indonesia. basically Timor was not a Dutch colony, but Portuguese. for that reason Timor Leste never really belonged to Indonesia. letting it go is a normal choice.

[@ramongarcia-oc4fv]

in the name of Jesus Christ almighty God❤❤❤the creator of Eath and Heaven

[@mingwang4359]

😘😘😘

[@lagrangewei]

stop using stupid propaganda language. what "so call" if it is not call that, what is it call? learn to use correct english and say "disputed line"

[@SHIK1328]

WHEN DID THE PHILIPPINES GET THEIR INDEPENDENCE?