How does the first Sonic Movie hold up in 2024? - Sonic the Hedgehog (2020) Retrospective

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@Flamestar320
@Flamestar320 Ай бұрын
I think the reason why the _Spongebob Movie_ team was confident in staying faithful to the show is simply because _Spongebob_ was already very well respected by millions of people. When the first movie came out, we were coming off of the first 3 seasons. Which are unarguably some of the most iconic and loved seasons of all time. Most of the writers and animators who worked on the show at the time also worked on the movie, along with the series' creator Stephen Hillenburg directing it. The first _Spongebob_ movie had pretty much everything in place for a perfect movie adaptation of one of the most beloved cartoons of all time. It came out at the height of the show's popularity and had a lot of talent who had years of experience working on _Spongebob._ Sonic, on the other hand, while still having a lot of fans, either was seen as a joke or with ambivalence outside of the younger crowd before the 2020 film was released. And as we all know, the franchise was still trying to recover from _Boom_ and _Forces._ Having a completely faithful adaptation for the first film probably would've been great for us fans if it was done well, but it wouldn't appeal much to non-fans. Most of the team also had little to no experience working on Sonic. Outside of Fowler, Hesse, Colleen, and Marza Animation. That's all I can think of off the top of my head in terms of talent that worked on anything Sonic-related before the movie, and outside of Fowler, none of them worked on the story for the film. Even then, Fowler's only work on the _Sonic_ series up to that point was as a producer for the cinematics of _Shadow The Hedgehog._ They didn't have any Sonic veterans like Iizuka or Ohshima supervising the movie.
@moribunee4849
@moribunee4849 Ай бұрын
very true. the sonic movies were pretty accessible to me as a previously non-fan. now, im a p big sonic fan 😁😁😁
@woopzbruh-r3u
@woopzbruh-r3u 10 күн бұрын
And Boom and Forces were trying to recover from 06 and Sonic 4
@nikkihedged
@nikkihedged Ай бұрын
The majority of the people who worked on the Sonic movie had very little experience before the Sonic movie. Jeff Fowler had never made a big Hollywood movie before Sonic. And the writers never wrote a script for a family film before Sonic. Their heart was in the right place, but that low level of experience probably contributed a lot to the less appealing decisions made for the film. They had the large task of bringing a beloved and iconic video game franchise to the big screen. A task that’s been done poorly many times before. And of course Sega and Paramount had to be part of the conversation on top of that. The whole process would have been a learning moment for them. And for Sega it was a reminder that Sonic was still beloved by millions and worth all the trouble.
@crimsoncat510-el7dy
@crimsoncat510-el7dy Ай бұрын
36:17 WHY DID BRO JUST DISS ME LIKE THAT? “SoMeTiMeS bAd IdEaS dOnT sEeM bAd UnTiL tHeYrE fUlLy ReAlIzEd- *THATS THE WHOLE REASON YOU WERE BORN* “ I WAS CAUGHT OFF GUARD
@spidersonic-b5q
@spidersonic-b5q Ай бұрын
That's some slow stuff if you know what I mean
@Pr3st0003
@Pr3st0003 Ай бұрын
I LITERALLY LET OUT AN AUDIBLE “what?!??” AND HAD TO REWIND AND WATCH IT AGAIN AND IM DYING OF LAUGHTER
@WaterMeLoan64
@WaterMeLoan64 19 күн бұрын
IT’S TOO FUNNY! 😂
@zachbrickowski5522
@zachbrickowski5522 Ай бұрын
It’s crazy to think whatever problems we have with the movie series, valid as they may be, it helped bring the franchise into a new golden age. That first trailer was the collective punching bag of the entire internet and perpetuated the notion of the Sonic series being a big laughing stock. Then they changed the design, got audiences on board and now have multiple hits on their hands. That turnaround is STILL insane to think about. Things like that just do not happen in the movie industry. And thanks to that turnaround, the games are bigger hits and are getting better and better, it’s incredible.
@a.d.9825
@a.d.9825 Ай бұрын
it encapsulates sonic as a franchise pretty well too. fucking it up, but then turning it around in a spectacular manner has happened so often in the franchise.
@aeon87
@aeon87 Ай бұрын
I'm just so happy that Sonic is a household name again. My childhood icon is so well received and loved by many that I feel validated as a fan. And the movies are a blast. Looking forward to seeing Shadow.
@922sunshine
@922sunshine Ай бұрын
I agree😀
@devofficialchannel
@devofficialchannel Ай бұрын
36:13 This sounds harsh, but I feel like this is how life just is actually. We may be born from "bad ideas" and we come up with a lot of bad ideas that we don't realise are bad ideas until much later. But if the Sonic movie is any indication, we are still capable of coming back and actually bringing good to the world.
@peteypiranalover
@peteypiranalover Ай бұрын
Movie 1 sonic and Eggman always felt like prequel versions of themselves. They seem to be aging into the actual characters. Movie 2 and 3 seem to be continuing that theme
@apexatrovinator7510
@apexatrovinator7510 Ай бұрын
Barely with sonic, he’s still making corny jokes and hasn’t changed much, hopefully soon
@jackmarshall3255
@jackmarshall3255 Ай бұрын
@@apexatrovinator7510 sonic felt less mature and more like a kid like in the games he was a hero and felt more mature but in the movie he felt like he was a kid slowly getting more and more mature with each movie slowly growing into the Sonic we know.
@apexatrovinator7510
@apexatrovinator7510 Ай бұрын
@@jackmarshall3255 Game sonic is far more mature than movie sonic, the meta era kinda screwed it up but he’s back to his old self, movie sonic has barely changed since the first movie
@sr.palit0
@sr.palit0 20 күн бұрын
​​@@apexatrovinator7510 In fact, he changed. Don't saying that it's a good change, but it makes sense with the movie's proposal, which is to show a Sonic in the process of growing, and not a already formed Sonic. A kid Sonic who is slowly learning to become the Sonic we know from the experiences he has. In the first film he is a little more shy, in the second he is more free, but irresponsible, I believe that in the third he will be more similar to Sonic from the games, not immediately at the beginning, but as the film progresses. That's what I admire about Sonic in the movie, he's a character going through changes, the experiences he goes through have more impact on who he is, he's growing
@gechotaris
@gechotaris 19 күн бұрын
lol
@RM2011ish
@RM2011ish Ай бұрын
I still love the first Sonic Movie since its actually much smaller scale and heartfelt story. It's very much focused on Sonic himself and how he changes along with the people around him. Not only was it a great introduction, it really made us care for every single character moving forward. I really liked how Movie Sonic had emotional depth compared to his video game counterpart. His origin really made him much more interesting. I also love Jim Carrey's take on Robotnik and his transformation from the self made narcissistic Mad Scientist to the unhinged Eggman we know and love.
@D0ctor_Lucario
@D0ctor_Lucario Ай бұрын
Also in the first movie, Wade Whipple shoots at Robotnik with a glock. Guns are real in the Sonic movie universe, and Wade Whipple in one of the only people to use one! Let that sink in
@Chou-shi
@Chou-shi Ай бұрын
Wade the Whipple my beloved
@CaptainF123
@CaptainF123 Ай бұрын
36:12 I was NOT expecting to hear this in a Channel Pup video 😭😭😭
@dragonbornrook
@dragonbornrook Ай бұрын
Your comment popped up the minute that came up 😆, I thought KZbin read my mind for a second!
@colecole640
@colecole640 Ай бұрын
SUPUER DUPER FLOOPER outta pocket btw.😐😐😐😐
@thekingofthefat6424
@thekingofthefat6424 Ай бұрын
oh the irony of how Chris Pratt was originally considered to be in the Sonic movie since he would end up voicing Sonic's long time industry rival Mario in the 2023 Illumination Mario movie
@spence8507
@spence8507 Ай бұрын
36:13 damn. you got me there.
@FowaJCT
@FowaJCT Ай бұрын
36:12 I had this video playing in the background, but this part caught my full attention
@lucario.pokedex.0448
@lucario.pokedex.0448 29 күн бұрын
me too bru dw 😭 🙏
@agentomecha634
@agentomecha634 Ай бұрын
I remember going to see the Sonic Movie with a couple friends in theaters and I genuinely enjoyed watching it. Sure for the most part, it was a relatively simple film with Sonic being sent to Earth and Dr. Robotnik trying to hunt him down and shenanigans ensue. But, that’s all it needed to be in my opinion. Sure, it would be nice if it was more faithful to the games, but I’m happy with the film. And it would lead to Sonic 2 bringing in Tails, Knuckles, and the Chaos and Master Emeralds. And now Sonic 3 bringing in Project Shadow and the Space Colony ARK. Plus, thanks to the success of the films, the Sonic series as a whole is more popular than ever and is now seeing a resurgence in video game quality and sales. And as a longtime Sonic fan, it’s great to see the series in a better light again.
@starlightrose3237
@starlightrose3237 Ай бұрын
36:17 was diabolical 💀💀
@mixanderfigueroa3999
@mixanderfigueroa3999 Ай бұрын
It feels like yesterday we got that universally maligned first trailer with that terrible Sonic design. Now here we are, eagerly waiting for that third movie. What a crazy timeline we’re living in.
@amyleigh7624
@amyleigh7624 Ай бұрын
Really. They went from a guaranteed flop to a billion dollar franchise.
@SeanFinlayson-ot7pu
@SeanFinlayson-ot7pu Ай бұрын
@@amyleigh7624 You never know what will be a big hit and what will miss, 2 tv shows from the 90s Friends and Stargate were only expected tae last for 1 series and look what happened, Friends is considered tae be 1 of the best comedy shows ever made and Stargate is hailed as 1 of the best Sci Fi shows ever, Shadow the Hedgehog the game was a flop, I would describe it as "rough around the edges", if they had just done a few tweaks tae it, then it would have been a hit, which ironically is what they did with Shadow Generations, big hit, the Sonic movie was destined tae fail, but a few tweaks and its now a well beloved film, I love it, everyone I know loves it, its just a fun, good film
@williamgiambatista7925
@williamgiambatista7925 Ай бұрын
I just realized. In sonic 2 knuckles confirmed the echidna tribe was wiped out, and sonic was only hopping from planet to planet to run away from the echidnas. So it should be safe for him to go home. I almost wonder if he will go home with his friends by the end of 3. Could maybe be him fully maturing and being ready to go back home
@spidersonic-b5q
@spidersonic-b5q Ай бұрын
He probably doesn't go there because of it being long claws death bed basically although I thought it was because he didn't know they died but then I thought about the canon book where sonic saw long claw die and was literally no way he didn't see the echidnas die as well
@fnaffoxy1987
@fnaffoxy1987 Ай бұрын
@@spidersonic-b5q The Sonic 2 Pre-Quill Comic includes Tails trying to find Sonic and he goes by Longclaw's place saying that nobody goes there anymore since all the death that happened there. Also, what book shows Sonic seeing Longclaw die? The Prequill comic doesn't show that.
@spidersonic-b5q
@spidersonic-b5q Ай бұрын
@@fnaffoxy1987 no wonder you don't know but Hey I'll cut you slack. And tell you this was in the sonic movie 1 novelization which is canon other than the og script stuff that doesn't line up with the movie but the book confirms a lot of lore in these movies such as sonic having chaos energy long claw being the last of her civilization and sonic seeing her die through the Ring
@fnaffoxy1987
@fnaffoxy1987 Ай бұрын
@spidersonic-b5q I didn't even know there were novelizations of the movie(s). I'll have to look into that
@spidersonic-b5q
@spidersonic-b5q Ай бұрын
@fnaffoxy1987 it's ok just search up the sonic movies vs the books by sonic theory he covers movie 2's and movie 1's
@blackprism5381
@blackprism5381 Ай бұрын
11:34 I wanted to put this out there if this was a marketing stunt I think they would’ve been in a lot more trouble. When it came to the sonic being redesigned Vancouver studio that worked on the visual effects for the sonic movie shut down, so why did I bring this up? Well because like I said, if this was a market, they would’ve got in a lot more trouble because people online would be mad that a stunt like this caused the studio to shut down and you know a lot of people lost their job that day so yeah that’s why I don’t believe this is a marketing stunt and this was the true direction they were going in before the redesign
@spidersonic-b5q
@spidersonic-b5q Ай бұрын
Don't forget it took two years for us to get proper movie sonic toys until 2022 as well the only figure was the Brazil cup topper and the talking sonic plush_ 2020 I'm glad I got the movie 2 figures though. I remember wanting that spin dash sonic with the old design because it was literally the only thing available luckily I was making sonic toys for myself back then I still do it now but it's not for me it's for others ok Dreamcast sonic is the only exception plus baby sonic.
@DakNJaxter
@DakNJaxter Ай бұрын
Don't they actually use a slow Piano Cover of Green Hill Zone while they're fixing up the house?
@patrickrobinsob1464
@patrickrobinsob1464 Ай бұрын
Yes.
@isaacrogers4174
@isaacrogers4174 Ай бұрын
Part of me wants to see the “Ugly Sonic cut” of the first movie for shits and giggles
@MrSupersonic28
@MrSupersonic28 Ай бұрын
The fact that films are 'mostly' complete by the time trailers does imply that a somewhat finished cut was done
@isaacrogers4174
@isaacrogers4174 Ай бұрын
@@MrSupersonic28 Maybe Paramount has it somewhere deep in the files of an emplyee's computer
@spidersonic-b5q
@spidersonic-b5q Ай бұрын
​@@isaacrogers4174shit on that thang 🤣
@woopzbruh-r3u
@woopzbruh-r3u 10 күн бұрын
DARK PATH: Leak it to the entire world and use AI to turn the other movies into the ugly style SEMI-DARK PATH: Leak it to the entire world NEUTRAL PATH: Leave the file alone SEMI-HERO PATH: bring the file back home to have a laugh with your friends HERO PATH: Destroy the footage and cleanse it from the world
@jonathanhargraves2241
@jonathanhargraves2241 Ай бұрын
I find it weird that I like the first movie better than the second movie. I found the characters to be more laid back in Sonic 1, and even though Sonic 2 had more Sonic related things in it, it also had more intrusions from the humans, too.
@BatMane95
@BatMane95 Ай бұрын
Pretty much exactly how I feel
@FlipSide2025
@FlipSide2025 Ай бұрын
The first movie by its own is a great movie, I enjoy it a lot but I still like the second one more, prob cuz im a hardore fan but your take isn't bad at all I respect that
@johnsonsharon81
@johnsonsharon81 Ай бұрын
Sonic 2 wasn't too bad rewatching it. I feel like the human subplots was turning me off
@FlipSide2025
@FlipSide2025 Ай бұрын
@@johnsonsharon81 rewatching it made me realize how much human stuff is in the movie, I was young watching the 2nd one for the first time
@mart5610
@mart5610 Ай бұрын
I really like Sonic 1 for how simple it is. People like Sonic 2 because it has Tails and Knuckles in it and more Sonic references. But the first one just really works. its a classic Sonic vs Eggman story that also reminds me of the first episode of Sonic X
@pokebattery4083
@pokebattery4083 19 күн бұрын
I remember being hyped to see Sonic, Knuckles, and Tails in a future movie with the echidnas and the post credit scene with Tails.
@HdNinjaMsBrickStudio
@HdNinjaMsBrickStudio Ай бұрын
MAN I can still remember the discours around this movie when it came out i didn't really have chance watch it because of Covid and i didn't really care for it that much since i wasn't really that into Sonic but catching the movie on TV one day instantly made me a Sonic fan (btw i had a friend who is s Sonic fan and longer than me actually too but i became a bigger fan) after thus film being out for 4 years (MAN time flies) I've only seen it twice all and all i would give it a 6/10 it has alot of heart even though i kinda wished this movie had the plot of Sonic 2
@85nxplosion
@85nxplosion Ай бұрын
Sonic Movie 1 brought back the respect Sonic more than deserves especially with years of bad Sonic games (pushing Colors for the Wii, Generations, and Mania off to the side). Sonic Movie 1 paved the way for Sonic Movies 2, 3, and the Knuckles TV show (regardless of opinions), a new generation of fans who never played the original Sonic trilogy & CD on the Sega Genesis / CD, a reminder to older fans in my shoes who were there when the franchise started why we love that blue hedgehog and this universe so much and to make way for a new movie universe that turned out to be really enjoyable. Sonic 1991 birthed the franchise and Sonic Movie 1 I look back on as a rebirth of the franchise because without this movie, people would not care about Sonic as much including Sonic Team. With the success of Sonic Movie 1, Sonic Team has taken a lot better care of the franchise than in the past and after all these years FINALLY Sega is taking notice on and correcting thier mistake on if Sonic Team gets a bigger budget and more time we will have a better Sonic game look at Sonic X Shadow Generations. I do believe if Sonic Team was given a better budget and more time Sonic ’06 and a whole bunch of the bad Sonic games we got over the years would have turned out a lot differently and better. But anyways I think Sonic Movie 1 regardless of how it holds up today and any day in the future, we can look back on this movie and it brought Sonic back to the forefront where he rightfully belongs.
@ToonCatTV
@ToonCatTV Ай бұрын
Honestly happy to see you make a new upload, makes work so much better
@supersaiyanfox9190
@supersaiyanfox9190 Ай бұрын
Okay Channel Pup, I honestly think that you’ve been on this regurgitation of criticism to get every video game thing into the Sonic movies all at once because of the Knuckles TV show. I think you need to understand that this Sonic cinematic universe is a build-up, like an origin story to get every video game thing into this universe. Like the SpongeBob movie is not its own thing; it’s a continuation of the actual show. So regarding the first two Sonic movies, they’re putting the time and care into the video game aspects, rather than shoving everything all at once, like the Mario movie did. It’s quality vs. quantity regarding the video game aspects of the Sonic movies vs. the Mario movie. There’s a difference between taking your time and playing things too safely, and these movies so far are taking their time to develop things in satisfying ways. The Knuckles TV show is definitely an example of playing it too safe though. Unless if the movies don’t continue to step things up like they’ve done before, then let’s just forget about the Knuckles TV show and say that it was a bad fluke regarding treatment of the video game aspects. Because of the bad TV show, you’re taking all of that negativity towards the show out on the movies, like I definitely feel like you’ve become one of the Sonic fans who hate humans. The humans suck in Knuckles, but the humans in the movies have some charm, including Rachel despite her eating a little too much screen time in the second film.
@justice8718
@justice8718 Ай бұрын
The knuckles show feels more like ambition rather than safety. It does a lot of weird things and trying to keep it on the budget.
@BritBox777
@BritBox777 Ай бұрын
"It's the entire reason why YOU were born" Holy shit that felt like a 35 minute build up to that joke
@AntonioCruz-ex3qt
@AntonioCruz-ex3qt Ай бұрын
This movie was everything to me man i watch this movie 4 times with my family it meant alot and now we getting a 3 movie its crazy
@Hedgie3
@Hedgie3 Ай бұрын
At the time when they had the atrocious first trailer out, my father showed it to me on his cellphone (I wasn't using a portable device yet then) and I got soo annoyed with that design, but I felt relief and hope for that movie when on the next day he informed me that SOO many other people were upset about that design too and were demanding for a fix-up or else that movie would become a heavily boycotted laughing-stock flop. So good that they listened to that worldwide criticism and made that fix happen. I've been impressed at how Paramount has been managing a very rare thing in filmaking: Making a sequel be better than the original! They made the second movie with a good amount of positive things that the first movie didn't have and how impressive they seem to be making the upcoming third one.
@harryfleutv666
@harryfleutv666 Ай бұрын
In my opinion, it feels like the first Sonic movie is the ‘Terrifier’ of the sonic franchise and Sonic 2 is pretty much Terrifier 2 in terms of how the lore and story expanded
@lightningboy7099
@lightningboy7099 Ай бұрын
Congrats on 100k
@rubydragoon720
@rubydragoon720 Ай бұрын
Not to sound mean or anything but my favorite part of the video is the ending half for one reason and really its a simple one: Its so easy to look back at everything and wish it were different, the way you always wanted it but in cases like the Sonic Movie Hindsight; is important the series: in it's current state probably wouldn't be where it is right now and I sadly think too many people forget that and take what we currently have for granted almost, while I'm not saying I entirely disagree, the movies and the games in the same respect; did what they had to do when they needed to DO it.
@isaacrogers4174
@isaacrogers4174 Ай бұрын
26:15 Sonic fans after the first trailer for Sonic 3:
@joshpetzoldt6344
@joshpetzoldt6344 Ай бұрын
Sonic speaking for Sonic fans - very meta!
@WigWoo1
@WigWoo1 Ай бұрын
I swear your intro music is the EXACT same Piano sample as Britney Spears: Baby One More Time
@Joshua_Lara101
@Joshua_Lara101 Ай бұрын
I have a bunch of personal bias for the movie because the movie was in production for literal YEARS before the poster in 2018 and once it came out I certainly had the time of my life seeing Sonic on the big screen for the first time and after rewatching the movie recently, even if it's nowhere near as grand as before, the movie still kept me entertained from start to finish and I really appreciate the praise the movie was given around the time of its release since many folks (excluding myself) were already stepping away from the franchise due to the quality of the games at the time and Sonic really could've used a win at the time and the movie delivered which I can give it props for. At the end of the day, I'm glad the movie exists, and we all should be too.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka Ай бұрын
I am so happy sonic the hedgehog 1 was a success because the original design could’ve been a disaster waiting to happen, which thank god they did that redesign for movie sonic and gave us the real sonic the hedgehog for this good movie.
@DeePrime2410
@DeePrime2410 Ай бұрын
To me, it sure does! I'll never forget the day I took my cousin to see this as we're both Sonic fans!
@appl3jewelartz
@appl3jewelartz Ай бұрын
36:18 EXCUSE ME I WAS PLANNED??? 😭
@5persondude
@5persondude 27 күн бұрын
26:16 famous last words
@peterrealar2.067
@peterrealar2.067 Ай бұрын
Hindsight is LITERALLY 2020 in this case. One of the few instances where we can look at part of that trash year fondly.
@andraw4002
@andraw4002 Ай бұрын
I've watched it almost every year since it's come out, it holds up surprisingly well. It's just a.really good movie.
@Lit-C
@Lit-C Ай бұрын
36:12 you have no idea how much I hate you, Pup.
@matthewcaddis4746
@matthewcaddis4746 Ай бұрын
I consider this movie similar to the Transformers movie "Bumblebee" (especially Sonic being sent away from his home world being unfamiliar with the human world as Bumblebee was) with a bit of "Hop" though I prefer Donut Lord to the Charlie Watson character and Marsden's previous character in Hop but with Jim Carrey's Robotnik being the villain not the Decepticons. As for Agent Stone, he's become one of my favourite lackeys and the most unique much like Snively in SatAM (he hated his uncle now Julian Kintobor, wanted rid of him and usurped him at the end of season 2 ) Stone himself is the opposite. To quote Imagine Dragons, I guess he is a sucker for pain, even being taken up into the Death Egg Robot in Sonic 2!
@matthewcaddis4746
@matthewcaddis4746 Ай бұрын
Sonic himself I do like for the reasons mentioned in this video. Although he does seem to behave like his younger than he is in the games and Ben Schwartz is very good at delivering Sonic's goofiness and emotional scenes not so much with him standing up to Robotnik. The closest Sonic VA to do that would well probably Jason Griffith or Ryan Drummond in my books
@ZachaRicO
@ZachaRicO Ай бұрын
Considering how narcissistic and self-righteous Follywood has become since this movie released, the way Jeff Fowler handled the situation with this movie has only become more respectable. When that first trailer dropped, I never would have thought these movies would become some of my favorites, let alone that we would see SHADOW appear and headline my most anticipated movie of the decade (so far).
@Superkirby982
@Superkirby982 Ай бұрын
Honestly the only track that I found memorable from Junkie XL in the Sonic movies is Dr. Robotnik's theme, whose motif actually stays consistent every time it appears. Lots of people even compared it to how similar it sounds to the AOSTH Robotnik theme. I will agree that ideally the Sonic movies would be better with actual Sonic songs incorporated into the soundtrack like the Mario movie. But even then if that can't be done then at least make the songs sound memorable and catchy, something that can be identified with Sonic.
@ajflink
@ajflink 19 күн бұрын
Btw, on Blu-ray, you can see in behind the scenes they were using the weird human hybrid late into production and the redesign was a post-production thing. They never addressed the initial or they fact they changed the initial design either.
@Na-mi3dx
@Na-mi3dx Ай бұрын
Sometimes all I think about is “Yo, if people apparently love these human characters, imagine how much they’ll love it if you adapted the actual characters”
@a.d.9825
@a.d.9825 Ай бұрын
On the Sega side, it was the Sega Sammy Chairman Hajime Satomi that consistently pushed for a Sonic move to come out. Quote: A, I set forth a policy to partner with the American movie industry and take on the challenge of making the Sonic IP into a movie. At the time, there was no example of a Japanese game character being successfully made into a movie, so the majority of people at SEGA were against the idea. Nevertheless, we worked conscientiously and carefully on the visuals and script, and after persistent contract negotiations, Sonic the Hedgehog movie was released in 2020
@BugsyFoga
@BugsyFoga Ай бұрын
Crazy to think how the sonic movie franchise has come so far since it’s initial announcement
@PIMPTD
@PIMPTD Ай бұрын
Wow I just noticed speed the movie and him mentioning Keanu Reeves and now he’s shadow.
@WERV2003
@WERV2003 Ай бұрын
15:00 That wasn't still Detective Pikachu and Warcraft?
@justice8718
@justice8718 Ай бұрын
23:00 You’re overlooking that this is Tower’s, Shadow’s, Eggman’s, Omega’s, and Silver’s world.
@shinzo2792
@shinzo2792 19 күн бұрын
i have a soft spot for this movie since it was one of the only times me and my dad connected
@RiderNexus
@RiderNexus 19 күн бұрын
9:40 I mean, I remember the initial backlash people had to seeing what Megatron looked like in the 2007 Michael Bay movie through concept art and advertising renders. It was.. pretty bad, but enough fan backlash was enough to redesign him A BIT.
@devofficialchannel
@devofficialchannel Ай бұрын
Josh Gad voiced a speedy character with attitude before in the Angry Birds movie. So I guess that might be why Gad was one of the picks.
@harrisonblock
@harrisonblock Ай бұрын
The analogy I like to use is that Sonic 1 walked so that the sequels could run.
@IronBeagle2003
@IronBeagle2003 Ай бұрын
I vastly prefer the second movie, but Sonic 1 is still incredibly charming and fun that was a great re introduction of Sonic to the world
@YukimaruKurogane
@YukimaruKurogane Ай бұрын
I honestly loved this movie still
@jackisco0l1804
@jackisco0l1804 Ай бұрын
There is no fucking way they were eyeing Jim Parsons for sonic…
@ipineaplezs2070
@ipineaplezs2070 27 күн бұрын
I rewatched Sonic the Hedgehog, and overall, it's a very safe family film with Sonic sprinkled in to appeal to a larger audience. It's your typical road-trip style movie with heavy pop culture references, which will likely age like milk left out on a hot day. Sonic is mostly Sonic in name, as he is very loosely based on his game counterpart. But overall, it's still a decent watch. There's no denying that the Sonic film has brought Sonic to the world stage and introduced him to new fans, as well as reintroduced him to longtime ones.
@PlongoYT
@PlongoYT Ай бұрын
the chase near the end of the movie *was* going to be longer, as seen in Previs footage that leaked the redesign murdered the budget so everything had to be scaled back
@RatchetClankFan112
@RatchetClankFan112 Ай бұрын
Even with its flaws I think it still holds up & I still enjoy it
@Thunderdransword
@Thunderdransword Ай бұрын
Even now I still go back to watching the first movie and ima say it it’s hilarious plus I can quote it to hell and back
@blueblurcam
@blueblurcam Ай бұрын
Great video bro!!
@ClydeJHatbird
@ClydeJHatbird 18 күн бұрын
Sonic 1 was the last thing I saw in theatres before the pandemic, and, if it weren't for Spider Man, Sonic 2 would've been the first thing coming out of it. All things considered, I very much enjoyed it and was part of the crowd that wanted to support it; honestly, the worst thing in the movie is the fornite dance, which was changed from what he did in the trailer. The media wants to act like all fans do is bully people online, but it was those same fans that starting rallying people to go see the movie after the design change was made. People literally saying, "They listened to us, so ya'll better show up." All this showed is that if you respect the audience, the audience will respect you. That being said, I now fully understand why Sonic's design came out that way in the beginning. Making him more human like is thinking from an animator's mindset. You're thinking about rigging, posing, all that stuff. Using game accurate Sonic would be MUCH harder to work with, even the games struggle with decent animation. Not saying it's impossible, but I understand it. It's also why Sonic Boom went that way, with way more human proportioned characters as well.
@spyder-man0462
@spyder-man0462 17 күн бұрын
0:01 GET DOWN PUP
@_SYDGAMING_
@_SYDGAMING_ Ай бұрын
Hearing sonic 2 and knuckles in ordsr sounds so weird to me ngl😂
@joshpetzoldt6344
@joshpetzoldt6344 Ай бұрын
I guess they should've waited until after the third movie to make the TV show, so it could be Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
@Zenithal1843
@Zenithal1843 Ай бұрын
4:11 God I would’ve loved if Sonic said “Its bazinga time” and and bazinga’d all over Eggman
@171QA
@171QA Ай бұрын
I still think this movie holds up pretty well.
@apexatrovinator7510
@apexatrovinator7510 Ай бұрын
13:44 Yep that would’ve looked a lot better on him, in a lot of the shots he looks pale and washed due to the light blue colour
@dreamsdeep1076
@dreamsdeep1076 Ай бұрын
First movie is pretty good. 7.5/10. Love this film . I rewatch both movies many many times over and to this day
@King-n00bi3
@King-n00bi3 Ай бұрын
36:13 “sometimes a bad idea doesn’t seem like a bad idea until it’s fully realised, it’s the entire reason you were born” That last part seems unnecessary.
@PhilBo-fp9mz
@PhilBo-fp9mz Ай бұрын
The movies fr edging us to the fantasy world in the beginning of the first movie
@calebtrmtherubyminecart6664
@calebtrmtherubyminecart6664 Ай бұрын
The way I took it when I first watched it, Sonic didn’t need to go to crazy lengths of earth because one, plot, and two, Sonic hasn’t been anywhere except for green hills so there wasn’t much to explore except he wasn’t really sure if he’d wanna see them on better terms when he wasn’t hiding Also Sonic wouldn’t wanna go back to green hill zone because longclaw was dead, and it’s not that the writer can’t do it because Tom and Maddie are part of his life so, I don’t see the point of it if Sonic is happy living them along with tails and knuckles
@kenishachisholm5692
@kenishachisholm5692 Ай бұрын
6:04 MEME REFERENCE!!!!!!!!!
@wills_helm
@wills_helm Ай бұрын
Hell yeah retrospective time!!
@Alejandroigarabide
@Alejandroigarabide 4 күн бұрын
NGL, Chris Evans or Michael B. Jordan as a human in a Sonic movie does sound cool.
@sonicjhiq
@sonicjhiq 29 күн бұрын
the crazy thing is if the redesigned sonic was what we originally had, I don't know if I'd like sonic 1 as much as I do, considering how divorced it is from the games
@dragonman011
@dragonman011 Ай бұрын
While I do get the point you were making, I thiiink the comparison to the Spongebob movie doesn't exactly work since that film involved the original show's creative team and was made to almost be a "finale" to the series itself. It wasn't a studio taking the IP and adapting it to a different medium with a new production crew and celebrity voices in hopes of introducing it to the general audience. Ironically I think the original Raimi Spider-Man film gets the point across better: An IP or franchise that's very popular in one medium can work in a different one if the people put in-charge of it actually care enough to do right by it and are able to be faithful enough to the source while making some adaptive changes that won't make the characters, stories and world unrecognizable as a result. Peter may now shoot organic webbing and Norman Osborne may not have his hella-suave waves... but in the end they still feel like Spidey and Green Goblin.
@TheUltimateMachineGod
@TheUltimateMachineGod Ай бұрын
Its kinda why i appreciate this movie and the subsequent one after it. Its clear from the redesign they wanted to do right for the fans and the general audience. Looking back on Sonic 1 I will always look at it in the same vain as Jojo part 1. Its a good introduction to everything but as time went on the series will have evolved into an appeal the original installment was not going for. Yet... the stories told dont disregard what came before. Stuff that happened in the past still matters. Its just what happens when you make a long running series.
@amyleigh7624
@amyleigh7624 Ай бұрын
That OG cast wishlist 😂
@darkron288
@darkron288 Ай бұрын
I still to this day want a ugly sonic cut of the first movie, just for the sake of film preservation i would love to see the movie with the original vision even if it was gonna be bad
@Goldrose257
@Goldrose257 Ай бұрын
People's reactions to the Sonic movie trailer 2019: AAAAAHHHHHH!!!! Oh my chaos this is TERRIBLE! He's so UGLY! We're gonna throw up!! 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮 People's reaction to the Sonic movie trailer 2020: Oh my world this is sssoooooo much better! He is so BEAUTIFUL!! We LOVE IT! 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙 It's impressive that the Sonic franchise got back on its feet again after some very, VERY cruddy year. But Sonic was dying before he franchise got back up again, like seriously, I thought it was the end for him. I don't remember what I thought exactly since I have bad memory but maybe it was something like this: "Oh no, Sonic has drowned in hatred and ridicule. He is dead, oh man, that sucks... Oh well, maybe it's for the best, the franchise wasn't doing so well anyway... But it's still sad dang it!" 💔💔💔😿😿😿😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭 But then the redesign and Sonic Frontiers happened and let me tell you, Sonic movie 1 and Sonic Frontiers where like CPR for the Sonic franchise, making sure that Sonic wouldn't die and then he got popular again, sure there were MANY bumps on the road, but Sonic seems to be in a good place for now and that makes me happy. By the way, Sonic in both game and movie doesn't just care about his friends, I would say that he cares about most living things and most people, Sonic is pretty nice to anyone sure he can say some weird stuff sometimes but he is still a nice guy most of the time to most living things and people as long as you aren't pure evil. 😀😃😄😁😆😊☺😍🤩🥰💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
@GAHAHAHH
@GAHAHAHH Ай бұрын
For as mid as the movie was, I think they needed that redesign not because of the design being bad but because the fact that they redesigned Sonic due to feedback showed that they cared about what their target audience wants far more than if they had used what would be the final design from the very beginning ever could. Sure there is still a lot to complain about but I think a lot of people would have taken for granted the things it did right had we not been given the glimpse into what it could have been without those things. As far as general movies go I think it was fairly decent but compare it to the Mario movie which may have more in common with its respective games however it has a plot that is down right offensively bad and I realised that having the heart of the film be good is far more important than being faithful to the games. Also I just wanted to mention I was extremely disappointed that when Robotnik told his assistant to hit his music it didn't just play 'E.G.G.M.A.N. ...Theme of Dr. Eggman' from Sonic Adventure 2, it honestly fits so well and even syncs up with his movements and the cinematography, the lighting, the tone, etc.
@justice8718
@justice8718 Ай бұрын
@jskywalker58 Sonic in the movie feels like a person that will be like his original iteration because of Tom and Eggman becoming Eggman because of Sonic. While the Mario movie tends to focus more about already having everything in middle and end of the film. Allowing no natural progression for Bowser, Mario, Peach, and etc.
@Jhan-taeinc
@Jhan-taeinc Ай бұрын
Nice vid
@ryananthony2869
@ryananthony2869 Ай бұрын
32:20 While I do agree that the Sonic Movie musical scores are incredibly dull and unmemorable,I don't think making Sonic music orchestral is bad at all. 06,Unleashed,Colo(u)rs,Lost World,Forces,and Frontiers all used orchestral music but they all had memorable melodies and instrumentation,and don't sound like white noise.The orchestral portion of the Sonic Symphony alone proves that type of music can work for Sonic. I get that the people who make these movies just see it as the whole "I know what that is and I clap" thing but Sonic music is commonly praised as some of if not the best video game music,even by those who aren't Sonic fans and while the original songs in the movieverse that play in the credits aren't bad they don't really match the Sonic vibe with the exception of Stars In The Sky and even Flames of Disaster from the Knuckles show. There's nothing in the world like Sonic music,I just wished the people who make the movies realized that and at least try to match that vibe,especially with how much of a reach these movies have. I'm even starting to doubt that Live & Learn will actually play in Movie 3 even if Johnny Gioeli said that Paramount has the rights to it,Junkie XL seems to be hyping his score for Movie 3 and even if I don't agree with his approach to the music (And his comment on AI,I think it's fine if you use it just for fun but it shouldn't take over the industry.),it gives me just the slightest amount of optimism possible,just very slightly.
@sedlyholmes3722
@sedlyholmes3722 Ай бұрын
One Redesign changed it all, now we all got Shadow in a 3rd Movie, i believe if covid didn't happen, Sonic 1 would made at least 500mil
@RiderNexus
@RiderNexus 19 күн бұрын
31:59 Frankly, I think this is becoming an unfortunate noticeable trend whenever Tom Holkenborg is composing music for a movie based on an IP. From these movies to the Monsterverse movies have all suffered in the music department whenever he's on board. Then again, I just have a bone to pick with the guy's work these days, definition of "Fell off"
@InkRoller18
@InkRoller18 18 күн бұрын
Felt like Alvin and the chipmunks type movie and less like a marvel movie like how 2 felt
@Rishi123456789
@Rishi123456789 Ай бұрын
>How does the first Sonic Movie hold up in 2024? I am sure most people will disagree with me, but I don't care, the first Sonic movie was painfully mediocre in my opinion. Like I can't even remember any scene from that movie. It's not even a very bad movie, it's something even worse, it's a forgettable movie. I would prefer an unforgettably bad movie to a mediocre movie. And I would obviously prefer an unforgettably good movie to an unforgettably bad movie.
@TheUltimateMachineGod
@TheUltimateMachineGod Ай бұрын
I cant say there are no memerable moments. Obviously the dr eggman final battle comes to mind, some of the quicksilver bullet time moments, the baseball scene. Then again this is coming from a guy who found those scenes to be impactful and well done. In comparison to what sonic is known for i will give you one thing it us painfully mediocre.
@gregoryairaoje
@gregoryairaoje Ай бұрын
36:17 Hey you roasted me! Edit: The heart doesnt seem to be there anymore oh man 2nd Edit: I wasn't a accident because I know that's what he was talking about just wanted to make that clear
@STKMRProductions
@STKMRProductions 19 күн бұрын
I think the first movie yes it’s not perfect but it was a good start to a cinematic universe take man of steel for example it was just mostly a regular movie they didn’t know it would be a cinematic universe and man of steel may not have great things in the script (coughing: superman killing zod by snapping his neck) but sonic 1 did good at starting a cinematic universe again may not perfect but it was good for what it was
@emiljawa4058
@emiljawa4058 7 күн бұрын
I know im late but about movie sonic being having a diffrent character from game sonic i imagine that sonic in sonic 1 and 2 is classic sonic and in sonic 3 he is slowly becoming modern sonic so what i mean is he will probaly eventualy be like game sonic in character.
@relt745
@relt745 Ай бұрын
9:53 Movie Chip voice actor?!?!?!
@35269
@35269 Ай бұрын
When are you releasing sonic final bosses ranked 2024 edition video
@hamzamohamed6774
@hamzamohamed6774 5 күн бұрын
21:47 oH mY gOd iS tHaT A sHaDoW o5 rEfErEnCe
@CHANIMATES
@CHANIMATES Ай бұрын
26:44 I'd bet 300 dollars that won't noir will ever happen in any of these films like ok I get it these movies humor can be pretty touch and go but sonic the freaking hedgehog would never make a skibity toilet joke the movie team has a little more dignity than that Pup lol
@bathilra5364
@bathilra5364 Ай бұрын
4:10 oh no that would have been awful
@motherplayer
@motherplayer Ай бұрын
I am grateful to the film being successful enough to open the door for a "proper" Sonic feature in time, but on it's own terms, I still find it to just be alright. It's a miracle in many respects that it grabbed victory from the potential jaws of defeat, but that doesn't change for me that it's a mostly stale roadtrip movie that doesn't do anything particularly interesting or come to any interesting revelations on character. Jim as Robotnik was the best thing about it between the fact he had a design that still "felt" like he was the character rather than some "working his way up and bears little to nothing with his other counterpart" and got to enjoy being egotistical and having absurd tech, he lived up to the potential best of all. It's why he stands out against the general mediocrity of everything else, controversial to say, I know.
@azimochaa
@azimochaa 23 күн бұрын
For it's time I think a Sonic X re adaption would be a horrible idea, plus for a big buget film I don't think they're gonna cater too much to the sonic fandom 😅 I like the humans, it's something different, the games and comics still exist if you want to see other Sonic characters 🙏🏾
@BananaR777
@BananaR777 Ай бұрын
A tickly cough, a real under sell
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