Channing Frye compares LeBron & MJ, calls Jordan 'just a scorer' - Skip responds | NBA | UNDISPUTED

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Former Cleveland Cavalier Channing Frye recently came out and said that LeBron is better than Michael Jordan, and added that MJ's job was to 'only score.' Hear why Skip Bayless believes that Channing Frye is not giving Michael Jordan the proper credit he deserves.
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Channing Frye compares LeBron & MJ, calls Jordan 'just a scorer' - Skip responds | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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@UndisputedOnFS1
@UndisputedOnFS1 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think current players would prefer to play with LeBron over Jordan?
@Ninja-ib8wm
@Ninja-ib8wm 4 жыл бұрын
If I’m winning championships I’m bringing Jordan in
@taffygore6285
@taffygore6285 4 жыл бұрын
No current players would love to play with MJ that’s why the majority of them voted him as The Greatest Of All Times !
@atanodesvarieux5580
@atanodesvarieux5580 4 жыл бұрын
If I wanted to win multiple Championship I would be with Jordan.
@Terror832
@Terror832 4 жыл бұрын
Some players can’t handle Jimmy Butler Butler is a boy scout compared to Michael Jordan. Jordan would make these youngsters contemplate suicide via social media
@silverknight876
@silverknight876 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron led a team over the greatest statistical team in NBA history and required them to go and add the Second best player in the game in order to beat him. Give me LeBron over Jordan any day of the week
@mr.turkey3960
@mr.turkey3960 4 жыл бұрын
I hate these comparisons but to call MJ “Just a scorer” is beyond nuts lmaooo
@nkwakutoure
@nkwakutoure 4 жыл бұрын
Was he a rebounder or assist leader?
@jevitigre
@jevitigre 4 жыл бұрын
@@nkwakutoure What is your point? Do you really think that the GOAT should have the triple crown?
@iHeartRuntz
@iHeartRuntz 4 жыл бұрын
duke of york well since you asked, no he didn’t lead in those categories... BUT he was a DPOY, had multiple first team all defense, led the league in steals 3 years, he was top 20 in bpg 2 years (ONLY guard on the list both of those years) oh and had a career avg 6 rpg & 5apg... so yes, he was more than a scorer. Don’t let these guys paint the narrative that all he did was score lol
@WhenShitGetsRhea
@WhenShitGetsRhea 4 жыл бұрын
Tavarous Gillespie thank you. The propaganda out here to water down Jordan’s career is so ridiculous
@t99155
@t99155 4 жыл бұрын
Tavarous Gillespie exactly these clowns saying MJ was just a scorer needs to go back under the rock they came from 🤦‍♂️
@Smiley869
@Smiley869 4 жыл бұрын
Players who praise Jordan: Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Karl Malone, etc Players who praise lebron: Channing Frye, Quinn Cook, Kendrick Perkins, James Jones...
@TheDefenseIsUpNext
@TheDefenseIsUpNext 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan's praised by people he beat, so they cant afford to say any different but Lebron is praised by people he played with. That's all you saying there.
@HaveFunLosingBro
@HaveFunLosingBro 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDefenseIsUpNext Buncha bums praising Lebron while a bunch of legends praising Jordan. Says a lot.
@HaveFunLosingBro
@HaveFunLosingBro 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDefenseIsUpNext You can say what you want about Jordan's leadership but the man got the job done & at the end of the day that is all that matters. It was a different less pg era so leadership like this was more common. Now if players aren't coddled they revolt or scream racism or elitism. Bunch of nonsense.
@Gentlemaneovah
@Gentlemaneovah 4 жыл бұрын
Oscar robertson, julius erving, isiah thomas? All of them put lebron over jordan
@TheDefenseIsUpNext
@TheDefenseIsUpNext 4 жыл бұрын
@@HaveFunLosingBro That's one way to see it but Kareem, Julius Erving and Isiah Thomas have gone on the record at one point or another and said Jordan isn't the greatest, are they bums too? As far as his leadership goes, Jordan did plenty of griping and complaining about Jerry Krause when he didn't get his way even though the man built 6 championship winning rosters around Jordan and Pippen. Jordan even quit the sport when his gambling addiction was questioned by the media. That's alot of complaining.
@T.Y.R.E.L.L.
@T.Y.R.E.L.L. 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll never credit someone arguing for lebron when he got 5 lebron jerseys behind him 😂😂
@chibekachanda6929
@chibekachanda6929 4 жыл бұрын
you would rather credit the guy wearing a Jordan shirt arguing for Jordan?
@ddub5074
@ddub5074 4 жыл бұрын
6 jerseys....6
@chibekachanda6929
@chibekachanda6929 4 жыл бұрын
@@ddub5074 both these goons are supporting their guy
@T.Y.R.E.L.L.
@T.Y.R.E.L.L. 4 жыл бұрын
chibeka chanda 6 hanging jerseys vs a regular Jordan tee. Now which one is worse ☠️☠️☠️
@chibekachanda6929
@chibekachanda6929 4 жыл бұрын
@@T.Y.R.E.L.L. i see where you are coming from. Did you know skip only wears Jordan sneakers?
@huh8896
@huh8896 4 жыл бұрын
Is no one gonna comment on the way Skip said Channing was “On something”😂
@carlholland3819
@carlholland3819 4 жыл бұрын
i think shannons on something
@allanhouston6759
@allanhouston6759 4 жыл бұрын
2013 ECF: 22-years-old Paul George vs MVP Lebron James + ( Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Ray Allen age 37 ) Still needed 7 games to beat the Pacers.
@dantelen4304
@dantelen4304 3 жыл бұрын
@@allanhouston6759 Ofcourse you won't mention Roy Hibbert George Hill and David West they were good too
@ChaoticMacho
@ChaoticMacho 4 жыл бұрын
If only they knew the records my mycareer player has broken the GOAT conversation would be over
@simple45679
@simple45679 4 жыл бұрын
60/30/20 on 80% shooting? goat
@w3stcoastallstar636
@w3stcoastallstar636 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 So true bro. WITH 12 straight MVPs and Championships.
@robertriojas2639
@robertriojas2639 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@iamphil84
@iamphil84 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ondefense7586
@ondefense7586 4 жыл бұрын
mj would put up my player numbers in this era 45 8 8
@InvestBetter.
@InvestBetter. 4 жыл бұрын
When I want Small Frye's opinion, I'll give it to him
@cuatrocinco2186
@cuatrocinco2186 4 жыл бұрын
Who is Channing Frye?
@warriorjennings5115
@warriorjennings5115 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@Jon155mt
@Jon155mt 4 жыл бұрын
@@cuatrocinco2186 Exactly
@sunnyside9273
@sunnyside9273 4 жыл бұрын
Chuuch , Frye off that Lebanese hash.
@aaronstinchcomb1021
@aaronstinchcomb1021 4 жыл бұрын
And you are..? Lol
@HDCIII
@HDCIII 4 жыл бұрын
Channing just wanted someone to talk about him for a day 🤣we all need to feel loved
@Jlouis500
@Jlouis500 4 жыл бұрын
Looooool facts
@benfrankz2507
@benfrankz2507 4 жыл бұрын
Big facts
@kingzae2766
@kingzae2766 4 жыл бұрын
Channing who🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️😂🤣
@pancon5
@pancon5 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly that!
@stargellwilliams1311
@stargellwilliams1311 4 жыл бұрын
MJ was the most complete all around player ever,they guy did everything on the court every night,scored,rebounding,assists,steals,blocks,locked down defender,mid range,threes when needed,great free throw shooter,post game, great in the opening court ,the dude was a all around talent,no weaknesses,he didn't just scorer he is simply the GOAT OR THE BOAT.
@jessejames431
@jessejames431 4 жыл бұрын
Shannon Sharp is on lebron payroll but spends that money on JORDANS!!!!!
@CF-wd6el
@CF-wd6el 4 жыл бұрын
Jesse James lol you funny as he'll, that was a good one
@TheBlwigg
@TheBlwigg 4 жыл бұрын
Facts...and Hennessy!
@WarAgeTV
@WarAgeTV 4 жыл бұрын
Skip is on Jordans and Shannon is on Lebrons... It goes both ways... We all know jordan just scored he didnt play point guard or grabbed the rebounds, assist or block
@glennmarksalgado7180
@glennmarksalgado7180 4 жыл бұрын
Don't say that out loud, Lebron might trade Shannon.
@dark_knight_3304
@dark_knight_3304 4 жыл бұрын
@@WarAgeTV he didnt rebound or assist yet he averaged 5.3 assists for his career and 6.3 rebounds but yea he didnt rebound or assist delete you comment never talk basketball cause you have no idea what your talking about
@ChicagoDefense
@ChicagoDefense 4 жыл бұрын
I forgot who Channing Frye was 🤣 wait who is he??
@arturoramos190
@arturoramos190 4 жыл бұрын
Or Who is she but dont blame him tho he just wanna stick Up for his body lebron
@thomash1268
@thomash1268 4 жыл бұрын
A journeyman player who is an LBJ former teammate. Why even quote him he was average at best and based a whole segment off basically a bench player.
@lifewithplayboy8682
@lifewithplayboy8682 4 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭
@METALFACEDOOM441
@METALFACEDOOM441 4 жыл бұрын
Some sorry mf that played college ball at Arizona...lol
@shubaairbana
@shubaairbana 4 жыл бұрын
Some dude who rode lebron's coattails to the finals
@Bilnation
@Bilnation 4 жыл бұрын
These mediocre players gotta stop talking about legends. Seriously.
@ZRC-rl7pg
@ZRC-rl7pg 4 жыл бұрын
I value their opinion more then someone like you or anyone else commenting on KZbin. Unlike you basketball is life to Frye, and unlike you he personally knows a lot of these superstars.
@redclxxd5974
@redclxxd5974 4 жыл бұрын
Who are you tho???
@Elitesniper-tx2nx
@Elitesniper-tx2nx 4 жыл бұрын
Bille lmao at least he played what did you do lmfao
@Drequeezy
@Drequeezy 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao you have LeBron on your background getting mad at a nba player for defending him u a punk
@Ninjersey1
@Ninjersey1 4 жыл бұрын
Zach C yeah but you can’t value players opinions who have a clear agenda like Frye who played with Lebron and probably got payed to say that🤷🏽‍♂️
@DJQuan718
@DJQuan718 4 жыл бұрын
"He averaged 4.5 rebounds a game at 7 feet for his career. HE WAS SOFT" Skip a fool 😂😂😂
@kpyoungmoney
@kpyoungmoney 4 жыл бұрын
🤣💀
@itsonlydirt1994
@itsonlydirt1994 4 жыл бұрын
Frye asked for it
@dextercannon5299
@dextercannon5299 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@tradtrad1000
@tradtrad1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@itsonlydirt1994 Channing Frye became a 3 point shooting center after his 3rd year in the league. Also if you use per 36 mins it's actually 7.3 rebounds soooo
@itsonlydirt1994
@itsonlydirt1994 4 жыл бұрын
@@tradtrad1000 It dont matter how you tried to theorize his numbers, his average is based on the mins HE ACTUALLY played, not the mins he SHOULD be playing. The results is 4.5 not 7.3
@Rmasters08
@Rmasters08 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan was “just a winner”
@marcpell133
@marcpell133 4 жыл бұрын
84-90 he didnt do too much winning? What about the wizards? How about when jordan lost to Shaq and the magic between 3 peats. He played 15 years. Lets look at the entire thing instead of 6 years.
@lilrock447
@lilrock447 4 жыл бұрын
Sterling Mitts first of all, we’re talking about peak Jordan, not wizards Jordan, just like how if we’re talking about Kobe, we go by him at his peak not post Achilles injury, so then that’s 13 years, winning 6 out of 13 is better than winning 3 out of 17
@lilrock447
@lilrock447 4 жыл бұрын
Sterling Mitts plus he didn’t have to join somebody else’s team to finally win
@marcpell133
@marcpell133 4 жыл бұрын
Lil Rock 44 lmao yeah mike was 1-11 in the playoffs without scottie but the nba won’t tell you that. Mike has also lost in the first round multiple times, bron doesn’t know what that feels like. Losing in the finals > getting bounced in round 1.
@marcpell133
@marcpell133 4 жыл бұрын
3 times to be exact. Your goat got bounced in the first round three times. Bet you never knew that.
@jeanmiess2625
@jeanmiess2625 4 жыл бұрын
The best player's job in a team is to make the team win...
@2Corinth5.21
@2Corinth5.21 4 жыл бұрын
Which makes Bill Russell the greatest. 11 championships in 13 seasons and he was the player/coach for the last 2 rings. At one point he lead his team to 8 straight wins.
@williammarcboquiren73
@williammarcboquiren73 4 жыл бұрын
@@2Corinth5.21 lol Russell is overrated played with an 8 team
@yusuf8938
@yusuf8938 4 жыл бұрын
@@williammarcboquiren73 So did MJ if you take out all the trash lol
@whenisdinner2137
@whenisdinner2137 4 жыл бұрын
@@2Corinth5.21 team of 5 hall of famers. Next
@whenisdinner2137
@whenisdinner2137 4 жыл бұрын
@@yusuf8938 I don't want to here that when LeBron played one good team for 8 years and it was always in the finals. All their competitions like Chicago imploded or he just stacked his team as high as he wanted. Jordan never asked for a single player or trade.
@treysimpson9279
@treysimpson9279 4 жыл бұрын
*One of the best defenders ever* *Just a scorer*
@SJO897
@SJO897 4 жыл бұрын
he's not one of the best defenders ever, relax.
@robliberachi
@robliberachi 4 жыл бұрын
😂right one of the few guards to win Defensive Player of the Year. These boys don’t know basketball.
@lornegreen6755
@lornegreen6755 4 жыл бұрын
Rob Liberachi you do realize they drafted Scottie Pippen to guard the best offensive player correct?
@Smiley869
@Smiley869 4 жыл бұрын
NBA Instagram you don’t deserve to talk basketball with a comment like that.
@robliberachi
@robliberachi 4 жыл бұрын
Lorne Green what does that have to do with MJ winning the award?
@iceman24life
@iceman24life 4 жыл бұрын
When I see Kuzma pushing someone in the way ti play defense tells you everything.
@jamesdawny1855
@jamesdawny1855 4 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahaha
@bennyghanee932
@bennyghanee932 4 жыл бұрын
go to my twitter and watch MJ play bs defense against the rockets when Mad Max was giving MJ work...@BennyA_Analyst ...twitter You guys havent realized this doc is created with highlights...watch a full game!
@iceman24life
@iceman24life 4 жыл бұрын
@@bennyghanee932 bruh I seen mj destroy my Knicks in the playoffs many years. And he's always, ALWAYS made me worry. With LBJ I don't feel that, there's always some point in the game where he will falter. With all due respect.
@bennyghanee932
@bennyghanee932 4 жыл бұрын
@@iceman24life look at that rooster with detail please... I have a clip from Wilbon about one of those series stating that PEwing and MJ were 2 points difference for the whole series, but MJ took 30 more shots than PEwing... If that was LBJ, they wouldnt let him live...follow me @BennyA_Analyst on twitter bennyAhmeen on Instagram
@anthonyvu3968
@anthonyvu3968 4 жыл бұрын
@@bennyghanee932 Ewing scores his points from 3 ft not mod range my dude stats gotta have context.
@martinumana8195
@martinumana8195 4 жыл бұрын
Shannon - “MJ was as good a defender as he was an attacker” Skip - “how dare you undermine his defense skills” I had to rewind to make sure I heard Shannon right
@KL-xe5ec
@KL-xe5ec 4 жыл бұрын
Skip is a joke lol... he can debate himself all day
@ikngzdroiid
@ikngzdroiid 4 жыл бұрын
skip does this to “win” debates
@adviks
@adviks 4 жыл бұрын
Well Frye said Jordan's job was just to score... he was responding to that...
@martinumana8195
@martinumana8195 4 жыл бұрын
AdwyxOfficial no he wasent lol, he specifically said Shannon
@bean3294
@bean3294 4 жыл бұрын
AdwyxOfficial get it right
@treysimpson9279
@treysimpson9279 4 жыл бұрын
*Most assists ever in a finals series by a non PG* *Just a scorer*
@UnexkinSheesh
@UnexkinSheesh 4 жыл бұрын
Ok and Lebron 3rd all time in scoring.... but nobody gives him his scoring props ... Jordan was a scorer it’s no debating that ... he had a all around game but his job was to score ... Lebron has to do everything
@treysimpson9279
@treysimpson9279 4 жыл бұрын
Og Sheesh Lebron doesn’t even average 2 more assists than Jordan and only 1 more rebound
@orlys54
@orlys54 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron is the system, that’s why his teams struggle so much after he leaves. He makes everyone a spot up three point shooter. Look at Kevin love double double machine reduced to nothing. To me it’s very nauseating that he constantly needs the 🏀 98 percent of the time. Michael won DPOY and MVP same season. I don’t know what they’re arguing about here.
@anibalcalix9190
@anibalcalix9190 4 жыл бұрын
@@UnexkinSheesh Being 3rd all time in scoring just proves longevity not anything else.
@joehinckson2588
@joehinckson2588 4 жыл бұрын
@@orlys54 what lebron is historically known for making players better and Kevin love was getting old to begin with. Also LeBron is the greatest all around player
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 4 жыл бұрын
If MJ's only job was to score, then he wouldn't have 9x first team all defense awards, 3x steals leader, 5.3 assists per game, and 6.2 reb per game. Lebron having more assists per game didnt lead to more wins, so it's a weak argument
@MrTreygo
@MrTreygo 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a stupid argument honestly. You ask me, LBJ would be a monster at strictly scoring and defense IF he had too. And MJ would be a great facilitator/scorer/play initiator IF he had to. Obviously Lebron doesn’t plays nothing like MJ and vice versa
@roguewookiee
@roguewookiee 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan got those James Harden assists. Dish it off as the last resort
@zackmarin4676
@zackmarin4676 4 жыл бұрын
@@roguewookiee Jordan's assists were even worse, mate. Harden usually has some filthy between the legs assists to centers, at least until PJ Tucker was put at center.
@pipnix33
@pipnix33 4 жыл бұрын
@@roguewookiee but isnt that still counted as an assist?!😂 Thats still playmaking though!
@marichan7531
@marichan7531 4 жыл бұрын
Amen
@RohnnyBravo
@RohnnyBravo 4 жыл бұрын
Public service announcement: if you played in the NBA and didn’t make a all star team please don’t speak on MJ
@bean3294
@bean3294 4 жыл бұрын
Then if you didn’t make the nba you really shouldn’t speak on Jordan or any of the other greats
@jonwifebeaterjones6389
@jonwifebeaterjones6389 9 ай бұрын
Public service announcement: everyone that watches basketball can talk about any player ever. Bro like, if you wanna forbid nba players from talking basketball for not being as good as mj then how can you talk about him? Bro frye is closer to mj than you are to frye bruh
@lakeshowbron4747
@lakeshowbron4747 7 ай бұрын
​@@jonwifebeaterjones6389facts 😂😂😂
@Prince-233
@Prince-233 4 жыл бұрын
No Michael Jordan only job was to win! Which he did 6-0 in the Finals. No game 7's.
@ellismarcelle5645
@ellismarcelle5645 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Jordan accomplished all that by himself?!?!?! I don't remember any franchise called the Michael Jordans ?!?!
@danielcarrera5559
@danielcarrera5559 4 жыл бұрын
yea and got smacked up all them years by the pistons and lost in first round and then came back and got smacked up by the Magic. Why do people forget ?
@hardcourttv6843
@hardcourttv6843 4 жыл бұрын
Bill Russel has 11 and 👀👀
@allanhouston6759
@allanhouston6759 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielcarrera5559 Lebron twice lost in the Nba Finals to teams with one star player. In 1995 JORDAN was rusty. 1988/1991 Pistons: Isiah Thomas HoF, RODMAN HoF, Joe Dumars HoF, Dantley HoF, Mark Aguirre 3x All-star, Bill Laimberr 4x All-star, JORDAN was the only star player in his team.
@kyongju8328
@kyongju8328 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielcarrera5559 yeah and LeBron got smacked up all them years by Boston and lost every time and came back and had the worst superstar performance of all time in the NBA Finals
@33Rakim
@33Rakim 4 жыл бұрын
Y'all getting quotes from Nick Cannon😂😂😂
@ZandeKongo
@ZandeKongo 4 жыл бұрын
This goat debate needs to just end. It's no longer a fun debate. Edit: What I mean by this is that the debate has become more about insults than a fun debate.
@KartelBeatz
@KartelBeatz 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly this debate has turned into a nit picking contest.
@TTSCAM
@TTSCAM 4 жыл бұрын
Yea because Jordan is winning by so far it’s ridiculous
@emekaamerican863
@emekaamerican863 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah its boring and annoying now. I just wanted to enjoy the last dance documentary without the nonsense
@HaveFunLosingBro
@HaveFunLosingBro 4 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Hill That's the problem it's fans talking. Men shouldn't be fans of anyone other than God. Fans are overly emotional & often overly glorify the image of their fandom which means whenever that 'perfect' image is threatened they revolt severely which means they start talking a lot of nonsense.
@AD-eq4kn
@AD-eq4kn 4 жыл бұрын
Shannon - Scottie can't play offense like that ?? Does he watch basketball
@seymourbutts5277
@seymourbutts5277 4 жыл бұрын
"Job was to score, and play defense" that's literally everything lol. Offense and defense. LeBron fanboys are seeing that MJ is the goat. Reaching hard for anything
@martinumana8195
@martinumana8195 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao I guess there’s no mid game
@bean3294
@bean3294 4 жыл бұрын
There’s actually more to basketball than just scoring or playing defense
@seymourbutts5277
@seymourbutts5277 4 жыл бұрын
@@bean3294 uhh...in a macro sense, there's offense, and there's defense. What else is there?
@ellismarcelle5645
@ellismarcelle5645 4 жыл бұрын
Don't expect to be recruited for any asst. coaching jobs, bruh! There's MUCH more to basketball ecology that "scord and play defense" LOL
@jaredbrooks3952
@jaredbrooks3952 4 жыл бұрын
I guess there’s no assists or rebounding lol
@thedonn9886
@thedonn9886 4 жыл бұрын
Channing frye who? Lbj’s ex-boyfriend😂😂
@oneman5753
@oneman5753 4 жыл бұрын
Y'all jordan fanboys are every bit as bad as lebron fanboys
@thedonn9886
@thedonn9886 4 жыл бұрын
One Man coming from a lebron boytoy😂
@thedonn9886
@thedonn9886 4 жыл бұрын
King Richard the Lionheart nope! Are you?
@thedonn9886
@thedonn9886 4 жыл бұрын
King Richard the Lionheart well then you are stupid too. How sure you are that he was not a lebron fanboy? When he actually surfin’ to a comment when he already know whats the topic?😂
@olearyeugene
@olearyeugene 4 жыл бұрын
And Richard Jefferson current husband
@kalanievans2341
@kalanievans2341 4 жыл бұрын
Averaged 32 8 & 8 in 89 avg 31 & 11 ast in the 91 finals but never had to do what lebron had to do 😂😂😂
@camelot1722
@camelot1722 4 жыл бұрын
Those are clearly outliers for a season and for a series. Ur talking about 1 season that was his BEST season for assists. His second best season for assists was 6.3 basically 6. The finals performance was great but CLEARLY an outlier for assists
@omarysaho3423
@omarysaho3423 4 жыл бұрын
Camaron Mazyck those ain’t outliers he clearly has the ability to average those numbers if he was asked to do so if he had to continually play point guard and run the offense his assists average would be way higher the dude was all around solid asf
@kalanievans2341
@kalanievans2341 4 жыл бұрын
@@omarysaho3423 exactly and people forget jordan didnt play for stats in that era winning was most important he did whatever the team NEEDED him to do lbj plays for stats so hes going into games TRYING to get asts and rebs
@camelot1722
@camelot1722 4 жыл бұрын
@@omarysaho3423 then why didn't he. If he could have he would have. That's a weak argument. Just bc he did something 1 time does not mean he can do that same thing multiple times. Last I checked assists were a net gain for the team so if Jordan could avg 30 a game and still give u 8 assists then he would've
@unknowninfinite8081
@unknowninfinite8081 4 жыл бұрын
@@kalanievans2341 FACTS! These fools just don't know. All they do is research the stats, they need to watch film to actually see how GREAT MJ was.
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 4 жыл бұрын
MJ was able to change the game world wide without social media the GOAT 🐐
@SJO897
@SJO897 4 жыл бұрын
lol, what a ridiculous statement
@marcusbowman3619
@marcusbowman3619 4 жыл бұрын
@@SJO897 NO!!!!! Your statement is ridiculous!!!
@Ninjersey1
@Ninjersey1 4 жыл бұрын
S. O you’re in denial
@SJO897
@SJO897 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Diaz Fitness why? He made an unsubstantiated statement and I disagreed with him, where’s the denial?
@marcusbowman3619
@marcusbowman3619 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ninjersey1 LeBron averaged one more assist and not even two more rebounds. Doesn't play D and loses too much in the finals.
@alexvlr7346
@alexvlr7346 4 жыл бұрын
MJ’s only job was to WIN !!! 6-0 Finals Record.
@cirilocampos9909
@cirilocampos9909 4 жыл бұрын
1-9 without 33
@deznutz352
@deznutz352 4 жыл бұрын
He’s 6-0 what stats you looking at. Matter of fact let me get dirk out her to wash lebron in the finals again lmao no goat after that
@makis7383
@makis7383 4 жыл бұрын
@@cirilocampos9909 He had to SINGLE HANDENDLY lift the Bulls past some all time great teams like the Boston Celtics led by freaking Larry Bird and the Bad boy Pistons led by Isiah Thomas. You expected him as a young player without help to beat these historically great teams by himself??? I get so mad when people say "1-9 without Scottie". That's such a lame argument.
@Ali-ly2cl
@Ali-ly2cl 4 жыл бұрын
Bill russell 11 rings
@azwanazmi1484
@azwanazmi1484 4 жыл бұрын
DeZ Nutz how dare you leave out Jason “the jet” Terry....🤣
@easye5653
@easye5653 4 жыл бұрын
Skiup rolls his eyes when "Shannon Sharpe James" speaks. Lol.
@liltunechijr7273
@liltunechijr7273 4 жыл бұрын
Title on video "Channing" Me: who tf is that
@keviny704
@keviny704 4 жыл бұрын
Which means you're a casual.
@liltunechijr7273
@liltunechijr7273 4 жыл бұрын
@@keviny704 dont be bring negativity around here man.. I was just making a joke god dam
@Ninjersey1
@Ninjersey1 4 жыл бұрын
ricky spanish pass the salt
@stephenasunnamedsource2943
@stephenasunnamedsource2943 4 жыл бұрын
@@keviny704 Channing Frye aint a household name bro. He can easily be overlooked. He made a lil spark in Phoenix and then no one heard of him until he was on the sidelines cracking jokes with Richard Jefferson.
@keviny704
@keviny704 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ninjersey1 Only have Himalayan Pink Salt.... That cool?
@KINGXSAMOAN
@KINGXSAMOAN 4 жыл бұрын
Just scorer?he won dpoy and mvp the same year? Goat dont lose 5 final😂😂😂
@bean3294
@bean3294 4 жыл бұрын
Jihad Da God crazy almost like it’s a team game
@noahdasliva9844
@noahdasliva9844 4 жыл бұрын
Aybay TV what do you mean
@Karmatenzinmatho
@Karmatenzinmatho 4 жыл бұрын
Goats don’t keep losing in early rounds @MJ
@teamgreats4084
@teamgreats4084 4 жыл бұрын
Last I checked LeBron didn't have 8 years of early rounds exits like Jordan...... Do 6 years make you the goat? Kobe got 3 rings in at 20,21,22... Just saying
@gavinoctavien1400
@gavinoctavien1400 4 жыл бұрын
Jihad Da God exactly 6 damn loss how they even put this bum over Kobe is beyond me.
@unknowninfinite8081
@unknowninfinite8081 4 жыл бұрын
MJ IS THE GOAT. END OF DISCUSSION.
@Ali-ly2cl
@Ali-ly2cl 4 жыл бұрын
Rikochet States yeah in your world, he’s the goat
@indirtywetrus9273
@indirtywetrus9273 4 жыл бұрын
Opinion
@fredbrooks7529
@fredbrooks7529 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that MJ is the GOAT, but they're are other great players in NBA history worthy of argument for that title.
@Ace.of.Rage.
@Ace.of.Rage. 4 жыл бұрын
MJ is the GOAT. It's still acclaimed to this day. The votes and polls ALL in favor or Jordan between ages 18-34 and 35 and older says it all. 😂
@Ace.of.Rage.
@Ace.of.Rage. 4 жыл бұрын
@@fredbrooks7529 Well Stated.
@deantechristian2757
@deantechristian2757 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao Skip started roasting Channing Frye 🤣🤣
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 4 жыл бұрын
Channing Frye: Lebron is the GOAT because he had to do more Also Channing Frye: Lebron made sure I got paid good
@jg7102
@jg7102 4 жыл бұрын
Channing still has to make shots.
@jeanbienvenue1634
@jeanbienvenue1634 4 жыл бұрын
Did he lie tho
@4thAndGoalSports
@4thAndGoalSports 4 жыл бұрын
Why can't he have an opinion. You mad cause not everyone is gonna praise MJ like a god. He not even a king. Cmon man.
@Ninjersey1
@Ninjersey1 4 жыл бұрын
TAPKING13 only ones salty are insecure BRONSEXUALS
@veryrichable
@veryrichable 4 жыл бұрын
@RMC 824 bro kobe isnt even better than duncan who went 5-1 and has more mvps than him so those lebron
@TTSCAM
@TTSCAM 4 жыл бұрын
This was just flat out disrespectful 🤦🏾‍♂️💯
@deezelkane
@deezelkane 4 жыл бұрын
Its even worse because its coming from bumass frye.. Whos also one of the queens bag boys
@kyriebailey3
@kyriebailey3 4 жыл бұрын
But it's the truth
@Yibambe5253
@Yibambe5253 4 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on that players playstyle 🤷🏿‍♂️
@joshkiepper7102
@joshkiepper7102 4 жыл бұрын
No the disrespect you give Lagoat is shameful💯
@deezelkane
@deezelkane 4 жыл бұрын
josh kiepper la’3-6.. stop disrespecting the goat convo by putting Lebron in it. Lebron has stats- Jordan has titles and accolades
@3rooklyn
@3rooklyn 4 жыл бұрын
Man the 80's. What a time to be alive. Young Mike Tyson, young Michael Jordan, Bon Jovi, AC/DC The Nes! I'd give anything to go back!
@rodsean
@rodsean 4 жыл бұрын
If MJ averaged 6 assists for his career, and LBJ has averaged 7 for his career, how is it that LBJ has more of a responsibility? And where do we factor in defense?
@MrSlashblade
@MrSlashblade 4 жыл бұрын
Who Lebron had to guard vs Michael and let me tell you it’s not pretty for Michael.
@HunchoHamza
@HunchoHamza 4 жыл бұрын
It’s really like 5.6 to 7.6 I think might be wrong and those add up season to season 5.0 to 6.0 could be like a 50 assist difference in 82 game seasons and this year Bron averaging 9
@rodsean
@rodsean 4 жыл бұрын
Natsu .D. Uzamaki okay slightly off. Plus MJ avg 6 plus rebounds per game and played stellar D so this notion that all he did was score is false
@allanhouston6759
@allanhouston6759 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSlashblade 2015 Nba Finals. Bench player Andre Iguodala more than doubled his scoring average from 8-ppg on 47% in the regular season to 16-ppg on 53% in the Finals vs Lebron James. Harrison Barnes shot 37% for the series, but over 50% when Lebron was guarding him. 2016 Nba Finals. Draymond Green increased his scoring from 14-ppg on 49% to 17-ppg on 49% in the Finals and exposed Lebron plenty of times.
@MrSlashblade
@MrSlashblade 4 жыл бұрын
Allan Houston it’s crazy how more minutes = more opportunity to score and I’m sorry if exposing is now p/r that almost any defender can get caught in
@jbodiesel
@jbodiesel 4 жыл бұрын
You getting quotes from Channing Fyre about Michael Jordan? Y'all are reaching for content, I'd rather hear Skip talk about Dallas Cowboys for the next 36 hours. At least he's certified in the streets of journalism
@popeyebogey209
@popeyebogey209 Жыл бұрын
I'd take his opinion over yours..
@RenR70
@RenR70 4 жыл бұрын
How many “just scorers” won Defensive Player of the Year?
@ObiVEVO
@ObiVEVO 4 жыл бұрын
You think he was a better defender than Pippen that year? Media awards are bs
@chrisscott7913
@chrisscott7913 4 жыл бұрын
O D-O yes he was!
@michaeljohnson7945
@michaeljohnson7945 4 жыл бұрын
@@ObiVEVO Michael Jordan won the 1987-88 NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award, which was Scottie Pippen's rookie season when Pippen was playing behind Gene Banks.
@TheQuantum09
@TheQuantum09 4 жыл бұрын
@@ObiVEVO PIppen was actually help warm the bench back when he won that award. You know that.......right? I'm HOPING that you know that.........
@Jlouis500
@Jlouis500 4 жыл бұрын
Damn buddy jumped in the comments and didn’t have the facts lol @ odo
@joo5605
@joo5605 4 жыл бұрын
“Someone get my mommy!” Lol skip is hilarious
@joachimjroualace
@joachimjroualace 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 laughed hard 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@Jlouis500
@Jlouis500 4 жыл бұрын
8.7 pts a game...... Channing wasn’t much of a “scorer” period
@bemn1736
@bemn1736 4 жыл бұрын
It's not about that man
@allanhouston6759
@allanhouston6759 4 жыл бұрын
2017 ECF: The best Celtics player was 5"8 Isiah Thomas. How did this team get into the Finals of the Eastern Conference ? ?
@chrishall4984
@chrishall4984 3 жыл бұрын
He scored more than you......
@Jlouis500
@Jlouis500 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrishall4984 wow what an amazing comment.
@chrishall4984
@chrishall4984 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jlouis500 oh i know thanks
@o.gparamount3099
@o.gparamount3099 4 жыл бұрын
This shanning frenchfry's statement shouldnt even be acknowledged
@clydeprice966
@clydeprice966 4 жыл бұрын
Channing Frye is a bum and he shouldn’t not say anything about MJ or LeBron
@SJO897
@SJO897 4 жыл бұрын
neither should you.
@kuleaidmaster3247
@kuleaidmaster3247 4 жыл бұрын
José Aldo Júnior P4P#1 13 seconds
@christiano2349
@christiano2349 4 жыл бұрын
@Jalen Rose a fan over a LeBron goon, yes.
@Ninjersey1
@Ninjersey1 4 жыл бұрын
Jalen Rose that nba player(Frye)clearly has an agenda and probably got paid for this statement lol
@thelionsshare9994
@thelionsshare9994 4 жыл бұрын
But he played in the NBA...and u didnt. But your opinion is more valid?👌🏿
@YoungSavageKillinEm
@YoungSavageKillinEm 4 жыл бұрын
Skip done called the man soft 😂😂😂
@christianesparza2399
@christianesparza2399 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron couldn’t play back in the day because he would of cried where’s my foul lol and smh Shannon saying lebron had to do more lmao Jordan had to go through nothing but legends to win 6 Championships
@kennedymofokeng4668
@kennedymofokeng4668 4 жыл бұрын
When Lebrons run is over and 8 years pass you'll be saying LeBron went through legends to get his.... No1 thought they were legends as they were playing .... Breathe and the Warriors 😏😐...
@jdlowe8174
@jdlowe8174 4 жыл бұрын
Man, Shannon always disagrees with the guys in the Hall about MJ but Channing Frye is on to something
@delerocky
@delerocky 4 жыл бұрын
They all have agendas. Shannon always agrees with anything that makes LeBron look better. Skip is the same way when it comes to talking about Tom Brady.
@Son_of_Da_King1
@Son_of_Da_King1 4 жыл бұрын
Channing Frye...who is he...lls!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
@gabrielwatson9703
@gabrielwatson9703 4 жыл бұрын
I’m tired of lebron fans saying no one had the responsibilities that lebron had like the only time he had to was his 1st year in Cleveland but after that he made super teams the reason y he still continued those responsibilities b/c Bron can only play one way and that’s the Bron system.
@bean3294
@bean3294 4 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Watson he can only play one way but got a title with two different teams?? 2+3=1
@bean3294
@bean3294 4 жыл бұрын
deadly steele what
@samfisher2306
@samfisher2306 4 жыл бұрын
Shannon said something I've always thought of: comparing MJ to Kobe makes sense comparing Magic to Lebron also makes sense. If you're a basketball fan, I think you might agree.
@simple45679
@simple45679 4 жыл бұрын
They don't compare based on similarities, genius. They compare Lebron to Jordan because Jordan is the goat and Lebron is chasing him
@superbbullies1040
@superbbullies1040 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you bro.
@seany1508hh
@seany1508hh 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron dossnt play amything like magic. Hes a better version of westbrook
@omacktube
@omacktube 4 жыл бұрын
Magics fastbreak offense is better than lebrons drive and kick offense.
@marlostandfield6054
@marlostandfield6054 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron doesn’t compare to magic . He compares to Oscar Robertson, he’s a Oscar Robertson 2.0
@sands201
@sands201 4 жыл бұрын
Skip has a point, I believe this was coming from LeBron’s mouth. He probably heard LeBron say that at some point and he believed it.
@kkbaby30
@kkbaby30 2 жыл бұрын
MJ was always the #1,2 or 3 in assist on the Bulls. MJ was often the #2 or 3 in rebounds on the Bulls. He definitely was more than a scorer, even when not considering defense. I do love that these two try to take the opposite hot take. Entertaining AF.
@jonwifebeaterjones6389
@jonwifebeaterjones6389 9 ай бұрын
Lebron was always Nr 1 in scoring and assists on His team. Always nr 1 never 2 or 3 and as far as I know always nr 1 or 2 in rebounds, more the nr 2 there because hes not the center. He had multiple series leading his team, sometimes both teams in points rebounds and assists. Mj hasn't done that. Hes a better scorer by far and a better perimeter defender. But lebron is a better passer, rebounder, a great scorer and a more versatile defender since he can guard 1-5 and mj can guard 1-3 if the sf isnt too big. Respectfully lebron is more complete as a player with a wider range of skills, mj is the more accomplished Player tho. What you value more is up to anyone to decide on their own but I personally would pick lebron over jordan to build around
@ninerempire4154
@ninerempire4154 4 жыл бұрын
Shannon is loving this statement
@hydero555
@hydero555 4 жыл бұрын
Deadass he is beeming inside
@SJO897
@SJO897 4 жыл бұрын
he defended MJ...
@SJO897
@SJO897 4 жыл бұрын
clehooda northside I mean, he’s defending against guards in the 80s and 90s. Not exactly the same level of talent as today’s guards 🤷🏾‍♂️
@Ninjersey1
@Ninjersey1 4 жыл бұрын
S. O says you lol wtf you know he guarded who he had too while Lebron wants to match up against the weakest players on the floor
@SJO897
@SJO897 4 жыл бұрын
Mike Diaz Fitness Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett are weak? Fam, MJ only guarded drexler and yall act like he was guarding prime Kobe or another actually talented guard
@visionxx5724
@visionxx5724 4 жыл бұрын
This argument will never end 😭
@ma-dm9pr
@ma-dm9pr 4 жыл бұрын
Idk but lebums is not the same level of mj
@Kube_Dog
@Kube_Dog 4 жыл бұрын
MJ is #1. LeBroh is *maybe* in the top 10.
@saucegodxx
@saucegodxx 4 жыл бұрын
Long after we’re dead they’ll be debating this lol
@sokit2em
@sokit2em 4 жыл бұрын
once shannon and nick wright are off air, itll be done. for now, we have to listen to this bs
@johnnykallon2654
@johnnykallon2654 4 жыл бұрын
Kube Dog Are you slow “Maybe in the top ten” 🤦🏾‍♂️ smdh the dude is top 4 minimum, Maximum top 2 with Jordan
@ericcallahan829
@ericcallahan829 4 жыл бұрын
When to pass and when to shoot is a skill and mj has that
@myke687
@myke687 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron had Davis, Kuzma, Wade, Bosh, Allen, Miller, Kyrie, Love, Rose, Deron, Korver, Smith. . . .MJ had Pippen and Rodman. . . .maybe add Kukoc
@bean3294
@bean3294 4 жыл бұрын
Your point is?
@williealexander7393
@williealexander7393 4 жыл бұрын
Skip Bayless is a savage😂😂😂
@patriccrigler7981
@patriccrigler7981 4 жыл бұрын
I was just saying skip is funny in this and a savage
@zay_rich
@zay_rich 4 жыл бұрын
People need to understand the triangle offense is not a high assist offense. Lebron plays in the LeBron system, everything runs through him. Lebron in the triangle would be a different player.
@goated3285
@goated3285 4 жыл бұрын
Nah Jordan said hisself he didn’t like nothing that takes the ball out of his hand, if he could pass the ball to hisself I’m sure he would’ve, meanwhile LBJ is more of a team player he don’t mind passing the ball even when he should take the last shot. Jordan played in Jordan system as well and wanted everything to run thru him..
@zay_rich
@zay_rich 4 жыл бұрын
@@goated3285 beginning of his career he did. I'm talking about his championship years.
@chi-raqbd2586
@chi-raqbd2586 4 жыл бұрын
Excuses
@primetimecollective
@primetimecollective 4 жыл бұрын
@@goated3285 you clearly didnt watch the doc. Its clearly stated in Jordan early years it was pretty much give jordan the ball and get out of the way pretty much the James Harden/Russell Westbrook way of playing basketball. Micheal loved it because he was that confident if could have averaged a triple double AT WILL if he wanted to. He AT FIRST didnt like the Triangle idea until they had started winning.
@needoc4639
@needoc4639 4 жыл бұрын
@@zay_rich During his championship years, Pippen, Grant, Kukoc, Harper, Rodman, Kerr, Paxson, Cartwright, Armstrong all came along for the ride. Stop it. He couldn't win without the Greatest PERIMETER Defender of His Era in Scottie Pippen. Without Dennis Rodman and without the Best European Player during that time in Toni Kukoc. FACTS
@JoJo-du1hz
@JoJo-du1hz 4 жыл бұрын
Skip talking about Frye like he played in the league at all. And for everybody saying mediocre players need to stop talking about Jordan; if they can’t talk about him then nobody that’s never played in the nba should be saying anything at all
@jaybeezy
@jaybeezy 4 жыл бұрын
💯
@jordanmoananu7572
@jordanmoananu7572 4 жыл бұрын
MJ in his prime would give you 30/6/6 while giving you first team all nba defense and channing Frye says he was just a scorer smh. Straight B.S take from Frye.
@curtislake3968
@curtislake3968 4 жыл бұрын
Who TF IS CHANNING FRYE?
@kenwynejames1968
@kenwynejames1968 4 жыл бұрын
thats what i am asking
@kinglightning5256
@kinglightning5256 4 жыл бұрын
He'd played with bron
@theplumber9427
@theplumber9427 4 жыл бұрын
Lebrons buddy.
@jpvaerox155
@jpvaerox155 4 жыл бұрын
yeah who's that guy
@Traypeats
@Traypeats 4 жыл бұрын
Based off channing frye and shannons logic, russell westbrook is the goat
@westbrookthegoat576
@westbrookthegoat576 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly 😂
@AlmightyCpj
@AlmightyCpj 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@fortyseven1476
@fortyseven1476 4 жыл бұрын
yea exactly.... u could argue Steph Curry is just a scorer but he’s way better than Westbrook is.. (all time)
@RKO859
@RKO859 4 жыл бұрын
@@fortyseven1476 curry is extremely efficient and not a ball hog. If curry was hogging the ball and shooting like 35 shots a game, he would average 40
@Udon_Noodle
@Udon_Noodle 4 жыл бұрын
@@fortyseven1476 Curry just a scorer where? Dude, Curry does everything that is required for GS to win. Just because his assist number arent insane doesnt mean he isnt sharing the ball at a very high rate. And honestly speaking, if Curry and Westbrook had the same amount of rings or Curry had no ring at all......Westbrook is the better player. That's no knock to Curry but Westbrooks accolades are virtually insane and get taken for granted. This guy has multiple 800+ assist seasons with no shooter in sight, do you know how terrifying he'd be in GS system?
@dirkackbar2041
@dirkackbar2041 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the back and forth with Shannon and Skip. I grew up in the Caribbean in the 80s, where Basket Ball was not the number one sport, but when MJ came on the scene I started watching basket ball. That's how dominant MJ was. where the sports I mainly followed in the Caribbean was soccer(football) and cricket.
@ronaldwilliams6445
@ronaldwilliams6445 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan was just ahead of his time super athletic, we have 20 of those in the nba now
@totalbodyperformancefitnes4813
@totalbodyperformancefitnes4813 3 жыл бұрын
As athletic as these new guys are, all 20 of them, that’s how much they are a bunch of babies they are. Touch fouls and complaining is what the new ultra athletic guys are now.
@dlbarnes
@dlbarnes 4 жыл бұрын
Did Channing Frye do something where his opinion is important? Oh he was on the Cavs and won a championship with him. ESPN had a fan poll last night go see the results. Channing Frye 😂😂😂 not even a top 50 player. Shannon said Jordan just played defense, you mean that thing LeBron doesn’t do. If you’re going to examine their games do it with a unbiased eye.
@horoom1930
@horoom1930 4 жыл бұрын
I think what Frye said was false but Rodman is a top 50 and said that Scottie is better than Lebron so that doesnt always matter
@dlbarnes
@dlbarnes 4 жыл бұрын
Mjvkobe now I was being nice lol
@kalanievans2341
@kalanievans2341 4 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to tell shannon lbj has to be the main passer on every team because he cant play off the ball 😂
@randysingleton9192
@randysingleton9192 4 жыл бұрын
I agree 👍
@jtremaine23
@jtremaine23 4 жыл бұрын
That's what they don't want to hear. MJ could play various ways----off the ball, ball-in-hand, post up, could facilitate, etc.
@brendonsheffield6372
@brendonsheffield6372 4 жыл бұрын
Why play off the ball when you're the best point guard on the team? Magic and Isaiah never played off ball
@DBlackMamba124
@DBlackMamba124 4 жыл бұрын
That’s like telling Mike to running point guard when his strength is scoring. It doesn’t make sense
@jtremaine23
@jtremaine23 4 жыл бұрын
@@brendonsheffield6372 He wasn't a point guard his whole career. Even when Rondo was out there, you would think he would play off the ball more but still can't do it. You have to be versatile so you can play in more than 1 system.
@hershelpogue1745
@hershelpogue1745 3 жыл бұрын
Here we go again, with the nonsense. When people talk about Michael Jordan and how he played are approach the players and the games they played, he used different tactics to motivate his teammates. The results speak for themselves. Facts that he went undefeated in the finals, and set the bar very high for players that come after him also shows how hard it is to win championships, and the leader of the team. Yet Michael Jordan did all that and people like Shannon Sharpe, Nick Wright, Collins Cowherd, and Channing Frye can make blanketed opinions and should get called on them.
@rynreenzzz
@rynreenzzz 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan and Kobe didn't only score, facilitate and carry the team in the clutch, but they also defended and locked down the other teams best scorer... Lebron didn't defend the other teams best scorer, and didnt carry the team in the clutch
@treysimpson9279
@treysimpson9279 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan averages more PPG, STLS, ORB, Less TOS, better FT% higher PER, more Win shares Per 48 minutes, etc
@jamaali2358
@jamaali2358 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like GOAT like behaviour
@MINK2393
@MINK2393 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you I been saying this... Literally every analytic PER GAME Jordan is not only better than Lebron but 1st all time all across the board
@massdistortion
@massdistortion 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah MJ only had one job - and that is to win the game and win titles. And that job he did.
@SenorTresleches_
@SenorTresleches_ 4 жыл бұрын
Got dominated by pistons never forget
@dejankonjevic7008
@dejankonjevic7008 4 жыл бұрын
@@SenorTresleches_ Swept them too! He got beat up! Imagine crybaby Lebron against that type of defence! He would score 5 points! Jordan played great despite the abuse and dirty play!
@4real124
@4real124 4 жыл бұрын
@@dejankonjevic7008 haha you dont know what you're talking about stop it dude
@cdbular
@cdbular 4 жыл бұрын
The only responsibility that Lebron had was to inflate his stats---
@hippiej9558
@hippiej9558 4 жыл бұрын
Skip looked like he had to sneeze whole time shannon was talkin..😅
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 4 жыл бұрын
Never listen to a bench warmer
@rpullins
@rpullins 4 жыл бұрын
Frye would be bringing Jordan and the whole Bulls team breakfast Lunch and Dinner if he played with 90s Bulls.
@jalilsharief1192
@jalilsharief1192 4 жыл бұрын
And Jordan would be taking Frye’s lunch 😂
@chrisdaniels6537
@chrisdaniels6537 4 жыл бұрын
Lil Deon facts. 🤣🤣
@philiprobiso9507
@philiprobiso9507 4 жыл бұрын
Giving credit to LBJ like Frye is not a credible player. Unlike Magic, Bird and Barkley who were all Hall of Famers said that MJ was the GOAT. Frye was also his former teammate.
@Sober_Hancock
@Sober_Hancock 4 жыл бұрын
The most compelling isn't any of these disputes: Jordan stopped more people who are on the Top 50 list from getting a championship.
@parthsharma1035
@parthsharma1035 4 жыл бұрын
They're comparing them for the 1000th time i guess😂
@RickGrimes807
@RickGrimes807 4 жыл бұрын
1000rd*
@deangelovickers4285
@deangelovickers4285 4 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow will be 1001....
@benjaminten3596
@benjaminten3596 4 жыл бұрын
Today Frye Tryed , Tomorrow Kyle slinger is gonna try it lmao
@CesarRamirez-cn5fw
@CesarRamirez-cn5fw 4 жыл бұрын
Get used to it cuz tomorrow there gonna talk about shoe size and who had the biggest hand on wendsday.
@benjaminten3596
@benjaminten3596 4 жыл бұрын
@@CesarRamirez-cn5fw An Jordan Still The 6 Finals Champion no Losses
@kristianravlic2942
@kristianravlic2942 4 жыл бұрын
Man, Skip kills Shanon everytime it comes to the GOAT conversation.
@MINK2393
@MINK2393 4 жыл бұрын
Badly
@veryrichable
@veryrichable 4 жыл бұрын
@@MINK2393 only after the documentary before that shannon was destroying skip i dont know what happened to shannon
@evanrotella5318
@evanrotella5318 4 жыл бұрын
Skips rlly gonna call 7’0 men who would whoop his behind “woosies”? Sounds right
@phillipjackson7338
@phillipjackson7338 4 жыл бұрын
Shannon is trying his best not to laugh. Skip just read Channing Frye...lmao
@bobbymarsh1
@bobbymarsh1 4 жыл бұрын
Just a scorer but he wins dpoy and ranked 2 in steals when he retired and avg 6.3 rebounds and keep in mind in 87 when he avg 32-8-8 and LBJ has never avg that..keep it real and spit facts.. say it Skip and it’s the dumbest Frye said
@gloxdrippy3561
@gloxdrippy3561 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows steals don’t mean as much as you think look at Dennis Rodman never averaged 1 block or 1 steal a game
@bobbymarsh1
@bobbymarsh1 4 жыл бұрын
Glo x Drippy neither does assist but what’s the point
@jadenwin2007
@jadenwin2007 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan did win a DPOTY
@dadillonful
@dadillonful 4 жыл бұрын
Against plumbers
@UnexkinSheesh
@UnexkinSheesh 4 жыл бұрын
... Wasn’t Lebron on paste to win Assist title?? No matter of fact isn’t Lebron #8 all time in assist
@westbrookthegoat576
@westbrookthegoat576 4 жыл бұрын
dadillonful only bronsexuals like I say this stuff, I’ll name those “plumbers” to u, Magic Johnson Larry bird, isiah Thomas joe dumars Dennis Rodman james worthy Charles Barkley DPOY Sidney moncrief
@UnexkinSheesh
@UnexkinSheesh 4 жыл бұрын
Corey Appiah you not saying nothing 😂😂😂 next 🔚
@MINK2393
@MINK2393 4 жыл бұрын
Corey Appiah Forget it You can’t win with Lebron Stan’s they know nothing... Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Isaiah Thomas, Hakeem Olajuwon, Karl Malone, Charles Barkley, Clyde Drexler, Dominique Wilkins, Joe Dumars Dennis Rodman Sidney Moncrief, Patrick Ewing, Dikembe Mutumbo, Chris Mullin, Reggie Miller literally in the era of big men Jordan a SG won DPOTY... They don’t know nothing
@junstadomus
@junstadomus 4 жыл бұрын
Channing Frye talking is like Kendrick Perkins talking. You do the math.
@junstadomus
@junstadomus 4 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭 by default
@raphaelsaddler4206
@raphaelsaddler4206 4 жыл бұрын
Channing Frye needs to look up when the term "load management" surfaced in the NBA.Jordan NEVER took a night off to rest. Jordan played both ends of the floor and was asked..well wait a minute. Jordan understood that defense was extremely essential to winning. In fact, I think Jordan LOVED playing defense, so to "ask" him to play defense wasn't needed. Lebron is asked to win. Jordan was asked to win. The Last Dance showed us what the big difference between Lebron and MJ.
@slimeballmk6656
@slimeballmk6656 4 жыл бұрын
MICHAEL JEFFERY JORDAN😂😂😂
@jg7102
@jg7102 4 жыл бұрын
At least Skip is not biased. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@Wgz945
@Wgz945 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Martinlavell
@Martinlavell 4 жыл бұрын
9:19 Skip walked right into that one. Expose him Shay!
@YEAHISAIDITPODCAST
@YEAHISAIDITPODCAST 4 жыл бұрын
How many times can you have the same dam debate 😂😂😂
@MikeFromBensonhurst
@MikeFromBensonhurst 4 жыл бұрын
How come nobody realizes it’s not that Lebron “has to” or is “asked” to do so much , he cannot play off the ball, he has to have the ball in his hands at all times . He can only play in the Lebron system , he would have ran Phil Jackson out of town if he was his coach .
@lennybeason1110
@lennybeason1110 4 жыл бұрын
🎯🎯🎯
@youngskyler7568
@youngskyler7568 4 жыл бұрын
Finally somebody that knows basketball I agree the triangle offense is players moving without the ball that's harder to run then the Lebron system just standing at the top of the key Lebron holding the ball no offensive moving its predictable that's way Lebron is 3-6 👍
@DBlackMamba124
@DBlackMamba124 4 жыл бұрын
@Mike from Bensonhurst
@ABSVabeautifulsunsetvlog
@ABSVabeautifulsunsetvlog 4 жыл бұрын
THANKYOU!!!!
@aronherbert5916
@aronherbert5916 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, so on the mark.
@nicolasp.1087
@nicolasp.1087 4 жыл бұрын
Skip you’re the man!!! Jordan only played with tough guys and winners!!
@antondelacruz9362
@antondelacruz9362 3 жыл бұрын
Shannon laughing is the best part of these debates.
@KRIATIBRO
@KRIATIBRO 4 жыл бұрын
Someone should remind Channing Frye of the 24 games Mike played point. 12 Triple-Doubles, 30.4 points, 9.2 rebounds, 10.7 assists & 2.4 steals per game.
@jeanmiess2625
@jeanmiess2625 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like Channing Frye was just trolling...
@captaintakeyoho
@captaintakeyoho 4 жыл бұрын
They really only remember the phil jackson era. When doug collins had the helm everything ran through mike. Phil knew it was a smarter idea to win using team play and ball movement
@LuisMercadoorg
@LuisMercadoorg 4 жыл бұрын
The man was not only the biggest offensive force the modern game has ever seen. He also won numerous all defensive titles, including multiple DPOY. Just a scorer?
@king2781
@king2781 4 жыл бұрын
If Lebron passed the ball to Steve Kerr Skip would say "Little ole Kerr saved Lebron's career."
@roverjohnson6854
@roverjohnson6854 4 жыл бұрын
FACTS!!!!!!
@trendsetter9597
@trendsetter9597 4 жыл бұрын
Idk who’s opinion is worse, Ryan Hollins r Channing freakin Frye
@MELLWALT5000
@MELLWALT5000 4 жыл бұрын
Hollins
@BrandonThreatTV
@BrandonThreatTV 4 жыл бұрын
Lol Lebron stans been taking Ls the past 5 weeks!!!
@omacktube
@omacktube 4 жыл бұрын
They been taking L's the past 17yrs.
@jacadianpro
@jacadianpro 4 жыл бұрын
Who laughs last laughs best. It's not about the battle but the war. This documentary is now but it will soon be forgotten. LeBron is still playing and still adding to his legacy and when it's all said and done his career achievements will be too great to deny. Enjoy this while it lasts Jordan worshippers.
@elbowgang9715
@elbowgang9715 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacadianpro you stans need to give it up. Bron will never equal Mike. Its been 17 years and he doesn't even have 70 percent of the accolades Mike got in 11 full seasons. Face it yo god and idol will never be the real 23
@jacadianpro
@jacadianpro 4 жыл бұрын
@@elbowgang9715 Ain't no man my god or idol. Don't mistake me y'all Jordan worshipers. Dude been retired for years and his name still in y'all mouth. It's a new day and we are living in the now not stuck in the past.
@genicchill454
@genicchill454 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously I Know that is the dumbest argument of all time.
@Josesp92
@Josesp92 4 жыл бұрын
MJ is the 🐐 like it or not. Frye need to stop that nonsense 🤦‍♂️
@bryantnonya8704
@bryantnonya8704 4 жыл бұрын
The reason everyone is trying to build a brand today is because they were inspired by Michael Jordan the greatest player of all time...
@Kelly-ur8xt
@Kelly-ur8xt 4 жыл бұрын
Ok skip
@KMax246
@KMax246 4 жыл бұрын
Right because anybody today who is trying to build a brand is an American who idolizes MJ. Right
@bryantnonya8704
@bryantnonya8704 4 жыл бұрын
@@KMax246 Michael Jordan is a global icon...
@frencelfrans6265
@frencelfrans6265 4 жыл бұрын
Frye dint belong in the nba period he soft to ..and he commenting ???
@zacharyminor9593
@zacharyminor9593 4 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't been in the nba in the 90's!!! 😂
@slim8039
@slim8039 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Jlouis500
@Jlouis500 4 жыл бұрын
Factz
@bean3294
@bean3294 4 жыл бұрын
Hating much?
@kennykenny8414
@kennykenny8414 4 жыл бұрын
Just A Scorer...being “Just A Scorer” got him 6 Rings. PERIODT Lebron is only a Offensive player then, How bout that
@youngskyler7568
@youngskyler7568 4 жыл бұрын
The bulls ran the triangle offense players moving without the ball players setting each other up Lebron holds the ball nobody can get hot or touch the ball in he has more responsibility smh
@davidakerele5745
@davidakerele5745 4 жыл бұрын
Young Skyler Exactly, that’s the reason why Lebron accumulated so many assists, he holds the ball for too long, he doesn’t play off the ball and doesn’t play elite defense anymore. Jordan could play in a system, could play far better off the ball and still get his numbers whilst being arguably the best defender in the game at the time
@asapproblem8821
@asapproblem8821 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidakerele5745 Scotty played defense on the best player on opp team every night and was the playmaker 4 the Bulls. MJ didn't "have" 2 do anything but put the ball in the basket
@HaveFunLosingBro
@HaveFunLosingBro 4 жыл бұрын
@@asapproblem8821 He still lead the league in steals multiple times, won a DPOY, & made multiple 1st team all-defenses. Him not guarding the best opposing player all the time does not change the fact he was a top tier defender.
@drewmoniz6262
@drewmoniz6262 4 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Andre Iguodala😂
@pablom4414
@pablom4414 4 жыл бұрын
For once in my life, Skip is right in an MJ-Lebron debate
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