Awesome video, mate. Just one thing: you're not supposed to place your weight on your wrists when riding bikes with clip-ons. Instead, you're supposed to grip the tank with your legs and support your torso with your core. The goal is to avoid having any weight on your hands and wrists except when countersteering. The point of alleviating weight from your hands and wrists, aside from saving yourself from wrist pain, is to prevent unnecessary input to the bike.
@nirboom8 ай бұрын
The point kind of still stands though You would possibly get more tired because you use your core more, compared to the upright sitting position of most bikes with standard handlebars
@spartanx169x8 ай бұрын
True but it’s hard to do particularly when riding for longer than an hr. Everyone and I mean everyone I know complains about wrist and back pain from riding super sports. Of course there is always that one guy that could ride from NYC TO Cali and not have issues.
@johnnyblue47998 ай бұрын
@@spartanx169x Not all supersports are the same. Many older bikes and some new ones are not that bad. I have a 2003 FireBlade 954 and just 2 weeks ago I rode from Belgium to Spain, a 1800+ km with the longest day being over 1100km. And I'm not fit by any means and I'm over 50yo. No issues with back and wrists on a sportbike if you ride correctly. I won't say it's comfortable like a GS, but if that's your only bike and you love sportbikes it's not an issue. I also used to own a 2011 S1000RR. Also good for long distance. For me the only issue is the legs bend. I have an older injury on one knee and I need to stretch it from time to time. That's where the relatively short range helps. I need to refuel about every 200km. :) I love sportbikes and I'll keep riding them until I can't do it anymore.
@Derpderpson1237 ай бұрын
@@johnnyblue4799 veel flitsers gezien in spanje in vergelijking met België? grtjs
@johnnyblue47997 ай бұрын
@@Derpderpson123 I think BE has more, but it's hard to tell.
@MotoDash11008 ай бұрын
I like traditional handlebars for two main reasons: I can rotate the bars away from me (towards headlight) in order to increase leg clearance (had to do that for the Shadow 1100). And also, simply because you have more room for mounting stuff. Quadlock for phone, quadlock for a bridge pass, maybe one or two RAM Mount (or Kemi Moto) cup holders, can change mirrors out easily that clamp around a bar in case the screw mount for mirror has been broken. Traditional bars are great imo.
@psychemike6 ай бұрын
I have a Honda SCL500 and rotated my handlebars as well. It let me extend my arms a little more as they're freakishly long, and makes it easier to reach while standing up
@muthulakshmimuthiah4804Ай бұрын
agree
@Antonio_zx6r8 ай бұрын
I knew all this already but you still made it entertaining to watch
@mihavuk8 ай бұрын
I like adjustable clipons - not just rotating them around fork legs, but also up and down with additional hinge.
@ninenseveneighths72988 ай бұрын
Great video. I recently put traditional bars on the 1998 VF800. Best upgrade I have done to the bike in the 19 years of ownership. Renthal 755 bars are perfect for a VFR800.
@I_hunt_lolis5 ай бұрын
I test rode and even rented a few generation of VFR bikes. I loved everything about them excent the clip-ons. They caused me pain and discomfort. This is the first thing I would have done if I ever bought one.
@Mike40M8 ай бұрын
One thing missing is that at high speed much of the weight on clipons is cancelled by wind. With "normal" bars you is dragged rearwards. So it depends on what type of riding you mostly do. When we had no speed limits it was comfortable to ride 400 miles averaging 90+ with clipons.
@Soul-IM8 ай бұрын
The 0:23 audio transition was perfect 😀
@Lingon_7 ай бұрын
thought the exact same thing lol
@Krom1hell8 ай бұрын
When I was a young one I got a bike.....By the time I got into motorcycling, the normal handlebar was engrained into my psyche as the only way to go..... I love fast sillyness and sbk, but that works only on a circuit...... Having better handling from clip-ons is kinda silly to say (try clip-ons in heavy trafic or dirt, or anything else than going fast, and it's going to get harder faster).... I kinda love them both, but I'm more of an endurance guy than a fast "all the time" guy, so I want to enjoy my 250 kph for 500 km and still have wrists at the end....
@hansenartwik15748 ай бұрын
I've never even thought of this. I love this random knowledge! Please keep it up! Awesome unique content
@robertfreeman79066 ай бұрын
I found that with clipons on the road it is better without a fairing as the wind helps to keep your weight off you wrists, but also ACE bars are a good alternative to clipons but not quick so adjustable. And you have top and bottom yokes holding the forks, not what you said
@spartanx169x8 ай бұрын
Would love for you to do a video on how wheel diameter affects handling.
@exothermal.sprocket7 ай бұрын
If I remember right, MotoGP runs 16.5 inch? But of course in MotoGP they can afford to do anything if it gains a fractional advantage in their specific use case. 17/19 or 18/21 wheel sets for ADV? Well that's more obvious as to the reasons.
@adityaverma798114 күн бұрын
Very very amazing explanation, never had thought through from this angle. Love you bro
@leanspo8 ай бұрын
I used to ride a bike with the clip-on handlebars. It had a little sportier position, but it was purely a street bike, Yamaha YBR copy of copy of copy. The one I use now has the traditional ones and as some say in the comments, I prefer it because of the space to mount stuff. I mounted road lights, windshield, phone mount and handguards
@_MisterFish8 ай бұрын
Clip-ons for me but I also prefer sport bikes over every other type of bike. The look, the feel, and the riding position. So far have no discomfort on multi-hour rides, but maybe my tune will change when that time comes.
@1pyroace18 ай бұрын
Riding with clip on is really not ideal unless u want to track it, go for comfort
@chrisnothnagel49108 ай бұрын
Always good to watch. Clubmans are single piece u shaped and center clamped design handlebar
@muhammadabdulfattah26358 ай бұрын
Almost all my naked bikes have clip ons. The problem is that it is quite impossible to find a good quality clip ons for it 😂. I prefer an aggressive riding position but with the looks of naked bikes. That's the main reason 😊.
@ILSeals8 ай бұрын
Streetfying my r1 ep4 when???
@MyJrankin8 ай бұрын
lol no cap was thinking the same thing. Sure it’ll be here soon
@robertolaggo91416 ай бұрын
Tomorrow. Just keep reading this comment every day
@Jagknorr8 ай бұрын
The torque you can apply to handlebars to get the bike to turn fast, as well as, how TIGHT you can turn with them, makes handlebars vastly superior. But yeah, a trackbike maybe you don’t want to turn in that quick, or that tight.😅 You want smoooooooth
@Drunken_Hamster7 ай бұрын
Something close to a drag bar, or those riser-style clip-ons like the the MT09 conversion piece or what's found on VFR800s and other sport tourers is ideal, IMO. Unless you're going for peak comfort, in which case, use buckhorn handlebars.
@Ashitaka08156 ай бұрын
Supersports with added traditional handlebars always looks strange to me. Don't get me wrong, sitting on a sportsbike can be exhausting but at that point it's not the right kind of motorcycle for me anymore and I would buy a different bike altogether. Not blaming anyone modifying though, we all get older, just my way to handle it.
@sankariashok69693 ай бұрын
I am planning to buy zx6r but i need upride position for stunt & freestyle so which pattern n model is best what size is compatible for touring & city ride also
@steve_wilson8 ай бұрын
Yay! It's Chaos Sunday!!!
@stephendrake81457 ай бұрын
A number of racers that go from dirt to road racing forgo clip ons for traditional handlebars so they can get the extra leverage, remember one can tuck tightly with either...
@pranaysarkar8278 ай бұрын
2:53 bro you don't know how to sit properly on an aggressive bike recently I went for 400 km (approx) ride and came with no back and wrist pain
@JSV1000S2 ай бұрын
Everyone’s different mate. I’ve tried every position to make the ergonomics more comfortable on my SV1000s, and nothing takes away the back and wrist pain. I have converted the clip ons to handlebars and the change and comfort is drastically different. Each to their own. You do those things and it works for you, good for you, it doesn’t work for everyone. Safe riding 🤙
@mencibenci8 ай бұрын
clip ons all day rryday, regular handlebars make me feel like I’m grabbing ridiculously high chopper bars💀
@cisarvialpando7412Ай бұрын
Yes
@raymadani2708 ай бұрын
Thank you for the report. I always wonder if any of the two handlebar types brings more stability to bike?
@MotardSLA8 ай бұрын
4:46 aprilia Tuono v4 what am I to you?
@ezekielbreedlove76984 ай бұрын
Why high handlebars?
@viqin.k22675 ай бұрын
I have 700mm handlebar for my naked bike, is it good or should i change it?
@deereeper17488 ай бұрын
Love your vids 🙏🏼
@moosescorner2 ай бұрын
This is a great video, I actually just always assumed it was a matter of price point and no other reason. And it makes sense.
@jsinclair398 ай бұрын
Clubman bars are single piece that is curved in a way to mimic clip-ons.
@druegeme8 ай бұрын
there is another effect. the clipons typically angled downwards puts the wrist in a position where the throttle can be controlled more precisely. For the record I don't like clipons.
@Ryzza58 ай бұрын
Learner sports bikes have raised clip-ons for better upright seating yet retain full fairings for better weather proofing and visual appearance. Why no-one has done this for faster sports bikes continues to elude me.
@jululugz28938 ай бұрын
Is the ninja 1000sx and gsx1000gt considered as "fast" but comfortable sportbike?
@Lemmon714_8 ай бұрын
My 1000sx has clip ons with Murphs risers
@jululugz28938 ай бұрын
@@Lemmon714_ is it the same on this one? kzbin.info/www/bejne/ome8fXd-l8yVlZIsi=08coSaPfdS5GqW7M
@Wannabearborist8 ай бұрын
I’d say conventional is what I’d ride with but clip ons just look so good
@Lemmon714_8 ай бұрын
Clip ons with Murphs risers make a great riding position on my 1000sx. I have been riding for 32 years so I can't lay down and ride anymore.
@XenolVlatriX2 ай бұрын
does the handling differ?
@kbearpro8 ай бұрын
Guess it would depend on what sort of riding I planned that day and what motorcycle I was on. I like the riding position of both my 2002 Kawasaki ZX9R and my 2007 Honda VFR800. I also like the riding position on my 1989 Honda Transalp and my 2015 Kawasaki KLR650. If I'm crusin' I like the riding position of my 1983 Yamaha XV920 Virago. It all depends.
@LegendaryMcslayer8 ай бұрын
4:48 uh… Aprillia Tuono v4 doesn’t look stupid at all & very much so looks and behaves like a proper sport bike while using handle bars & not clip ons.
@ardhi12698 ай бұрын
It depends on what you want... Ergonomic & comfort or speed
@nerychristian8 ай бұрын
You can have a speedy bike with traditional handlebars
@C.A.MARSUPIAL-ys6tl7 ай бұрын
Can you put more of a street handle bar on a sport bike. Thanks
@exothermal.sprocket7 ай бұрын
Spieglerusa has the solution for you.
@OmegaGarage8 ай бұрын
I have a standard on my Yamaha R6. It rides so nice
@JulianDaniel20038 ай бұрын
4:45 The tuono would like to have a word with you xD
@exothermal.sprocket7 ай бұрын
Handlebars for me, on pretty much any motorcycle. Of course I will never be using a race track on a regular basis or riding a race replica motorcycle on a regular basis either. Have I used clip-ons? Oh very much so, but I prefer the versatility of handlebars and naked sports bikes and don't care if I am the odd person on a track day because everywhere else handlebars serve better purpose.
@cisarvialpando7412Ай бұрын
Bajaj Pulsar 150 gives clip on hamdle bars despite being a naked bike...
@karaagacalican7 ай бұрын
only saw traditional handlebars on supersport bikes when people doing gymkhana stuff...
@goldfish81965 ай бұрын
This is an Excellent video.
@MrJ65047 ай бұрын
I have a RE continental GT 535 ...I love clip ons...
@MuhammadHammadAshraf8 ай бұрын
Installed clip-ons on my street bike and swapped them out for the regular bar because the handling got worse and my back hurt on rides longer than 15 minutes. Keep the clip ons for your sport bikes is what I learned from my experience.
@jululugz28938 ай бұрын
Does the clip on handlebars improve fuel efficiency (due to aerodynamic/forward bend position with clip on bars)?
@MuhammadHammadAshraf8 ай бұрын
@@jululugz2893 No I don't believe they do. They're purely just cosmetic.
@Alic_R18 ай бұрын
Once I'm too old for my R1 ill get some handlebars on it lmao
@exothermal.sprocket7 ай бұрын
Spieglerusa has a kit for you. Or Convertibars. Or Helibars.
@CyberChrist8 ай бұрын
You could've talked about steering angle ;)
@instaug8 ай бұрын
but why do alot of traditional naked street bikes come with clip ons form the factory, like for example the TVS Apache 200 or the the SUZUKI gixxer 250 (Great video as always mate❤)
@davmanlop3338 ай бұрын
Where the R1 update?
@headhunter5318 ай бұрын
4:45 Zx6r stunt builds. 💀
@joergbeigang8 ай бұрын
I was only riding bikes with clip ons, then I didn't ride at all for quite some time. A few years back I bought a bike again, still sporty, but with a traditional handle bar. I gotta say it took some time for me to adapt. I'm sure it was just in my head, but I felt disconnected from the front wheel, and pushing it a bit harder through the corners felt somehow funny because I wasn't use to bend my arms that much. Now I actually like it, especially the handling at lower speed, and after an hour it's only my knees that make me wanna take a break.
@eliinthewolverinestate67297 ай бұрын
What about the ape hangers? To say one is better is wrong. Each has it's own place for the type of riding.
@PabloPicasso-ey9rm7 ай бұрын
You can buy a rised (40 - 60 mm) clip on.
@AndrewLane-pm2ro6 ай бұрын
My understanding is that clip-ons are not the same as clubland bars.
@rosdisch82688 ай бұрын
Hey there, i like your videos so much. Could you do a test that shows what the diverents between using a kneepad in a motorcycle pants for example and don't using are?
@unknownps8 ай бұрын
Without gear you look like a kid sitting on his dads GS..😏
@pippipster67676 ай бұрын
Something about the phrase ‘clip on handlebars’ makes me feel slightly queasy 😂
@ThisRandomGuyYouDidntNotice8 ай бұрын
...and then there are bikes like the FJ1200 whose owners usually replace the clipons with a risered wide bar :D
@MotoDash11008 ай бұрын
Dammit, it's Sunday already. Don't forget to say Happy Mother's Day to whatever females in your life. Likewise, if you're typically a hooligan on the streets, be safe(r) today just so that if a drunkard (or a wine-o) does mow you down, it won't be on Mother's Day (hopefully). TL;DR, Don't forget to say happy mother's day to whoever it applies today, and be safe and make it home alive at least today.
@HeldIntegral8 ай бұрын
Dont lean on the clip-ons, use ur legs n feet to hold the bike
@segsfault8 ай бұрын
Something tells me Clip-Ons break easily too compared to traditional one's which just bend at max.
@bearwolffish7 ай бұрын
Argument being you can just replace the part hat broke, rather than having to replace the entire bar.
@heyfarhanirfan8 ай бұрын
It's my birthday today 🥳🥳
@2wheelpartsguy8 ай бұрын
No... its mother's day
@chaitanyacc60198 ай бұрын
Happy birthday to you 🎉
@MotoDash11008 ай бұрын
Happy birthday man.
@Dipeshgiri78 ай бұрын
Happy birthday dude.
@SuperbikeJunky8 ай бұрын
Happy birthday bud
@bearwolffish8 ай бұрын
Dirt bike bars on the sports bike, good for the wheelie.
@ovidiududau20508 ай бұрын
Mine are bent af because i highsided lol
@nerychristian8 ай бұрын
Los Angeles is a beautiful city
@kidneystone13457 ай бұрын
clip ons: im speed one little rock on a highway: watch how i make this man wet his pants
@kevinroark58157 ай бұрын
It's all about Aerodynamics
@_oxesha2006 ай бұрын
The older you're something not killing your back is better
@mehfoozmalang78462 ай бұрын
Clips ons❤
@darktitan80858 ай бұрын
Clip ons are great, but standards are better. (Unless ofc you ride a sports bike)
@thanoszn16007 ай бұрын
The hands matter
@charliecharlie90427 ай бұрын
“A sport bike would look ridiculous with regular handlebars” moto-gymkhana riders 😡
@911Salvage7 ай бұрын
Clip-ons are for speeding. Handlebars are for stunts.
@prakash79218 ай бұрын
"your wrist and back will hurt" - it's a myth.
@cisarvialpando7412Ай бұрын
For me clip on is far better despite having pain on the wrist....whats the point of comfort in a bike ?? If you really need comfort, then go travel by a car😑
@RuneDall7 ай бұрын
Which option makes girls talk to you? I want to avoid that one.
@233kosta4 ай бұрын
"Better"... for what?
@RT22-pb2pp7 ай бұрын
If ypu have to ask you will never understand or need them
@I_hunt_lolis5 ай бұрын
Clip-ons are for teenagers. Older riders prefer standard handlebar
@ViennaVisuals4 ай бұрын
That is a bit outstretched. That’s like saying kids only eat oranges while adults eats apples. Ergonomics is always fact in these situations not “coolness”
@sash00477 ай бұрын
F both Go with ape hangers on a faired motorcycle 😂
@jasonking42098 ай бұрын
Yep, stunt bikes do look stupid.
@JulianDaniel20038 ай бұрын
Okay this might be an unpopular opinion but bikes with clip-ons shouldn't be on the streets. When someone suddenly pulls out in front of you while you're riding, you'd be better off with a handlebar which gives you more leverage to swerve instead of a clip-on that will make you almost go straight in comparison. Btw I've owned bikes both with clip-ons and handlebars so I do have experience with both.