Chapterhouse Dune: Frank Herbert's Legendary Sci-Fi Series Ends With A Mystery

[@PaulWelsh]

Chapter house and God emperor really challenged me at times. I really enjoyed thr whole Dune saga. Herbert is a writer that makes yiu think for yiurself, he doesn't hand you all the answers

[@detorio]

It took me one year to finish the Dune series. I'm so glad to have reached the finish line! What a ride!

[@RM-tj6ju]

It took me a year to read the first book

[@givemethatfilletfish]

Wtf? I read the first book in two days

[@ronaldcampbell5470]

This is my favorite book in the Dune series. I really like the focus on the Bene Gesserit Sisterhood and the wider conflict with the Honored Matres

[@wintersmill4853]

I like it the least…

[@louienelson5803]

@@wintersmill4853 same

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

I love the original Dune books. Frank Herbert told stories about the nature of humanity and our effects on the environment. I have read a lot of the books that were written after Frank's death. Those stories are ok. They do not have a lot of depth IMO. Also, I don't know if Brian Herbert and Anderson had read Chapterhouse before they started writing their sequel books. They clearly didn't understand what Marty and Daniel were. Frank clearly states that they were super advanced Face Dancers.

[@babsbylow6869]

This M & D debate will rage for a long time yet. I kind of agree, but with Frank's tendency to give the plot a twist atop a subversion I can't rule out anything. Your comment about the theme of environment in Frank's Duniverse and other writings is deep. Prompted me to ask if you're familiar with Doc Sloan's Science Fiction Station? Check out the channel. His Dune series his his PHD writings. As a SciFi lover after watching some of those vids you reading list will grow.

[@supremeworld87]

Nah they were self inserts of him and his wife.

[@kevinmcbee5498]

According to Brain and Kevin they were thinking machines in disguise

[@JosephRocco-mi4cm]

​@@kevinmcbee5498I don't consider their works canon

[@bradyjacobs2348]

If only we got dune 7 ......

[@ppowerman5000]

I find it so hard to believe that some people prefer the first 3 books of Dune...I rather read the last 3 , God Emperor, Heretics and Chapterhouse. Those books for me are an amazing scifi achievement. About Brian books, I also love them...have read the prequels, and the end of the saga. Must admit, didn't agree in the end the series had. But for me it's was ok to have some kind of closure. ... don't get why people hated the prequels, there are some amazing characters there. Omnius, Erasmus, Serena Butler, Vorian Atreided, Xavier Harkonnen, the Titans ... there's so much new lore added to the Dune universe that it baffles me the hate the prequels get.🤦🏼‍♂️

[@Freshleecut]

I just finished Chapterhouse today and wanted to hear someone discuss it. Thanks!

[@StokeLordTanner]

I just finished Chapterhouse today and i immediately wanted to hear someone talk about it lol

[@unityvirtualproduction]

Nicely reviewed. Thanks for sharing your insights on Chapterhouse.

[@maxolivierberrou8684]

Chapterhouse is my favorite of the series

[@PotSmokeGuy]

One of the things I find strange is people's various pronunciations of the names. I read the name as "Honored MAY-TRUH". Maybe it's being from Canada and having the French Canadian influence on some words (I'm not French Canadian myself)...or, I would pronounce it Darwi OH-DRAW-DAY because I based it on how Atreides was pronounced. I don't know what is right or wrong, I just find it interesting.

[@StanWilks]

Heretics and Chapterhouse felt like an afterthought for me. The best part about both is the fleeting exploration of living in a post-Tyrant world, but this is sadly in short bursts. I definitely think the Bene Gesserit are more interesting as just one of many factions fighting for dominance. Having two books where they're the predominant focus makes them terribly boring, especially when Herbert's food/restaurant fetish enters overdrive. The strangest thing about Chapterhouse is that the Bene Gesserit homeworld is frequently referred to as secretive and privy only to the Witches, but Herbert never utilizes its full potential -- all-out war on Chapterhouse after the Honoured Matres find their homeworld. The writing side of my brain was very surprised that there was no planting and pay-off with that. For me at least, God Emperor was the final great Dune book. Great video, man!

[@playbookshowme484]

Scytale is one of the best, never done justice in the movies/Tv.

[@gszd55]

The book is a great testament to the Bene Gesserit and the creative female power.

[@Lask]

I started reading (ok, listening to the audiobooks) Dune also at the beginning of 2020 and just finished Chapterhouse today, it's nice to listen to someone else's thoughts on this book and series. It's also encouraging to see someone reach the same conclusions I had about the characters at the end. I hadn't read much about the series on the internet to avoid spoilers so I had no idea the book would end the way it did, but I appreciated that it seemed like Duncan and his crew were in a new universe all on their own. Don't think I'll get into Brian Herbert's books just yet. Looking forward to the new movie as well!

[@travisgray8376]

Good man

[@babsbylow6869]

While I find much of the Brian Books off putting (such as changing Paul's birthplace to Kaitain), I do suggest you at least give Hunters and Sandworms a go. Much of which was written from Frank's Dune 7 notes, as well as other conversation Brian had with Frank over the years. While it's obvious it's not written by Frank, it does bring the story to an end. There are moments where I go 'That twist is all Frank' or some passages so well written I often think they were so detailed in Frank's notes that Brian or Kevin lifted it. Bonus: Read by Scott Brick. Time warning. While it picks up almost immediately from Chapterhouse it does take place over several decades. The disconnected with the characters is understandable. But, the long held connection with the Duncans which most all readers have is rewarded. Plus, if you listen casually and you find it not to your liking 🙅you're not out book $$

[@Lask]

@@babsbylow6869 Thanks! I'll probably check them out soon, lately I've had this urge that I want to read some more Dune!

[@emmyashbaugh]

I just listened to all the audio books in the series written by Frank, took me about three months. Chapterhouse was the one I was most looking forward to but ended up being my least favorite. It was almost hard to get through sometimes. The ending came out of nowhere for me & left me audibly questioning “wait, it’s over?!?!? Is that it?!?!” The series really started out with an unmatched BANG and went out so oddly, in my opinion…. Not saying it was bad, just didn’t resonate with it the way I did with the first four.

[@charlessublette]

You're a small channel but just wanted to say your awesome! Great info. Fun video. KEEP GOING MAN!!! Love to see you making content. :)

[@RonReviews2]

Thank you!

[@Radiotomb]

2:33 Mara Jade Skywalker

[@SirAdamantine]

Another solid review.

[@RonReviews2]

Thanks for watching!

[@blackspade1]

I understand your reluctance to tackle the 'sequels.' Honestly, they are a mixed bag. Some great parts mixed with some heavy contrivances. The sequels tie into the Machine Jihad much more than the parent Dune series. That prequel series is a hard read, needlessly pedantic and very derivative (not in a good way). I'm not sure I even finished the last book in that series.

[@jorgeoliveira2383]

You want to read the prequals before you get to the sequals. It is more than worthed.

[@deepaksingh-ku9uf]

The ones made by Brian Herbert ?

[@daveodell700]

SPACE JEWS?

[@dancegregorydance6933]

Space latkes for everyone

[@M62003]

Great review, by the way what is the music in the beginning? I would like to know.

[@RonReviews2]

Thanks! I write and record all of the music for this channel. I’m going to put out the full soundtrack soon if people are interested.

[@oblivianaarcana9626]

He was going for the same fantastical orientalism he was going for in all the other books. I mean... he was really into that. He was an ex-Catholic so I'm inclined to reference the Catholic church's attitude on the Jewish people as apocalyptic pawns.

[@MrSkills123]

Brian’s house books I thought were okay, not as good as Franks but I’m a simple man and I love the setting. Thank you for the reviews!

[@RonReviews2]

You’re welcome and thank you for watching. I appreciate it!

[@jmachero5852]

We could’ve gotten book 7 if Frank didn’t die before that.

[@jmachero5852]

@crazywarlord777 It dosen't work like that, you know.

[@JasonMGrill]

MAKE THE MUSIC LOUDER I CAN STILL KIND OF HEAR YOU.

[@RonReviews2]

This is one of my older videos. I didn’t know how to properly mix around this time. My new videos don’t have this problem. I might just delete all of these because I keep getting the same complaints. They’re valid.

[@mytechid9748]

music 2 loud

[@joshknightfall]

Not just in volume. It's very "busy" music to be talking over... sensory overload.

[@Roducius]

Read Moorcocks books!

[@RonReviews2]

Elric? Yeah, I’ve been meaning to. Hard to find.

[@extersmedleyjr118]

The books after the God Emperor aren't the same as those that came before it. They lack something that is hard to define. Its almost like a another writer took over even its close but not close enough. I do not like any of the other books for me the series ends with God Emperor!

[@TheNathRob]

Absolutely agree. I wish I had stopped after God Emperor.

[@thefilmeffect6089]

Heretics feels closest to the first book out of all the sequels to me.

[@stevenguevara2184]

If you like those characters watch Game Of Thrones

[@Bnasty1414]

Music is BRUTALLY distracting

[@RonReviews2]

This is one of my earlier videos and I didn’t know how to properly mix that stuff in at the time. Sorry! My new videos don’t have that problem. I think I’ll eventually do re do reviews of the Herbert books anyway with no distracting music in the background.

[@TheNathRob]

Books four, five and six were an absolute waste of time. Book five and six are potentially the worst I have ever read. How anyone enjoys them is beyond me.

[@RonReviews2]

I have to admit they were tough to get through at times. I’m more a fan of the first three.