Wizards do exist in the empire in old world, just the colleges of magic don’t, it’s basically untrained hedge wizards and that about atm. So it makes perfect sense to release new wizard models that reflect the different type of wizards around.
@kempo792 күн бұрын
What do you mean "untrained hedge wizards"? There wasn't state-funded university that was training battle mages but they weren't untrained. It was like in the first edition of WHRPG - mages were trained in a traditional way: master - apprentice style - and magic was more generalist (a little bit of this, a little bit of that) instead of being divided into 8 different paths. Still, there was division between "evil" magic and "good" magic (daemonology and necromancy vs battle and elemental magic), for evil magic had its unpleasant effects upon the caster.
@Wildifepro2 күн бұрын
@@kempo79 I was trying to be concise, yeah they've got training from previous wizards but untrained compared to "Having a school set up by possibly the greatest elf spellcaster to have ever lived."
@kempo792 күн бұрын
@@Wildifepro I wouldn't say they were untrained compared to battle mages from colleges. They were just generalists, while battle mages are specialists. Being a specialist makes you better in certain field - but you lack skill in other fields. It's just another iteriation of ancient debate - if it's better to be a generalist or a specialist. Sure, a bright mage can probably summon a fiery meteor to smite his foes while generalist can probably just throw fireballs, but then again the generalist can bring rain to put out the fire he caused with his fireball, while bright mage cannot.
@Balmora7762 күн бұрын
@@kempo79 You’re getting into a weird semantics argument over things that aren’t really the main point he was trying to make. Sure they still can be trained by other hedge wizards/something else. But there isn’t a state sanctioned organization that legally recognizes them and uses them in armies (old world lore might change that) and it certainly doesn’t do it in the same way, hence different new model. The whole better or worse really has very little to do with the main point.
@praise_kek3402 күн бұрын
@@kempo79meth being cooked by trained professionals from institutes vs meth being made by some guy in basement
@paintbusch2 күн бұрын
I just hope Darren Latham is heading up the refresh of the Space Wolves design. He loves Space Wolves and wouldn’t fuck them up
@Jason-gq8fo2 күн бұрын
He probably is
@Copium50003 минут бұрын
You’re about to get the ‘primaris treatment’. Kind regards, a sanguinary guard missing his wings
@Mythralblade042 күн бұрын
What would you say the odds are that the "New Logan Grimnar" sculpt is GW trying to keep Leman Russ a secret by using a working title? Because "Large base, On foot, 2 wolves" sounds pretty Russ to me.
@LMR0410822 күн бұрын
Chap, that’s impressive logic. Like it.
@happydisaster670313 сағат бұрын
I’ve heard it was suppose to have three wolves, same number as the wolves that pull grimnars current Christmas sled.
@SeanFatManEatsChild6 сағат бұрын
I feel like it's just gonna be an upscale/updated Terminator sculpt to replace his currently dated looking on foot model. Probably similar in size to Helbrect or the Leviathan Terminator Captain. His Stormrider model is pretty new still and we currently have both options so I feel like it will stay as an option.
@SeanFatManEatsChild6 сағат бұрын
@@happydisaster6703only 2 pull his sled
@LMR0410825 сағат бұрын
@ it’s a really neat idea and if I’m right, Helbrect has those 2 base serfs who have attacks on his base, so we know the idea works well and can look superb. Personally I’m a bit stoked. I hope they go down the slate grey Viking look as opposed to well, baby blue and furry.
@saritor3 күн бұрын
10 seconds in and you're already talking about showing people the full moon?
@shakyrob65122 күн бұрын
Clearly his love for his primarch Perturabo has seen him spiral further into the embrace of the ruinous powers and now he is learning the ways of Slaanesh.
@godconvoy2 күн бұрын
Valrak's moon is more like a Dysonshpere.
@Manny_lol3 күн бұрын
Just show me Plastic Arjac Rockfist and my cares about the Space Wolves refresh will have been fulfilled
@Sigismund-xe2ec2 күн бұрын
Eldar and Empire. Fantastic stuff. Now we just need the High Elf rumours/leaks.
@ShadowPhoenixMaximus2 күн бұрын
Hoping for a forest dragon for Wood Elves
@Colbliashi2 күн бұрын
I want a new Huron Blackheart and will die on this hill! The Black Templar release was great, Dark Angels was good, Blood Angels was okay, hopefully for Space Wolves fans their release isn't the worst of them all. Logan's model sounds really cool. 2025 sounds like a lot of "big" things that might all drop with mediocre execution. Hopefully Emperor'sChildren fans get better then us World Eaters players. I'm still bitter about the lack of range, as we really only need 2-3 things to really finish the army.
@KrullMaestaren2 күн бұрын
Swooping Hawks will keep the wings and get the nipples that Blood Angels lost
@speedyT0RT0ISE2 күн бұрын
“It’s my personal opinion, you can’t have a go at me for that” … Valrak have you met the internet?
@keithmoore76292 күн бұрын
They best do justice to the space wolves and not make them just light blue ultramarines like they did with the ‘update’ to the blood angels effectively making their signature units generic looking primaris just painted black or gold I hope the space wolves are more covered in wolf skins and runic armour
@klaykid1172 күн бұрын
We're just hoping they get black templars/ dark Angels treatment. If the online community is anything to go by they seem to be the most popular non-ultramarine chapter so hopefully they go all out and don't use that fact as an excuse to be super lazy
@wardragon94382 күн бұрын
I hope they do good with the space wolves if not then I will not be finishing my space wolves army
@ToddGrindle2 күн бұрын
What happens if they don't do what you want? You cry more? Lol
@Wolfbroa2 күн бұрын
@@ToddGrindledang choking hard on that boot huh
@mechaplatypus822 күн бұрын
I'm already stocking up on Greytide Studio bits just in case.
@DanTheMan-n5p2 күн бұрын
Dark angels: Good models, bad codex Blood angels: Bad models, good codex Space wolves: 50/50 chance of it being either good good or bad bad...
@Spongemonkey262 күн бұрын
Black Templars: great models, good codex.
@pitmatix14572 күн бұрын
The fact they are ditching the sleigh is a good sign.
@merlyn9212 күн бұрын
I know the Warp Spider phoenix lord name might have been butchered, but it reminds me of "Lhykosidae" from that CS Goto travesty, Eldar Prophecy.
@gvchannel2340Күн бұрын
Truly a comment that sends shiver down the spine...
@USAFWolf2 күн бұрын
The viking/Norse look is just so much cooler than the over the top wolf thing. I'm hoping they lean further into the viking aesthetic.
@kempo792 күн бұрын
Magic and magic users existed, there weren't colleges of Magic organised by Teclis yet. In other words there wasn't state-funded university that was training battle mages but they existed. It was like in the first edition of WHRPG - mages were trained in a traditional way: master - apprentice style - and magic was more generalist (a little bit of this, a little bit of that) instead of being divided into 8 different paths. Still, there was division between "evil" magic and "good" magic (daemonology and necromancy vs battle and elemental magic), for evil magic had its unpleasant effects upon the caster.
@Noman19812 күн бұрын
The Eldar stuff should make for a happy Pancreas.
@dekai79922 күн бұрын
Some of the poor fellas have defended their craftworlds since 1994. They have earned their rest.
@Noman19812 күн бұрын
@@dekai7992 No argument here.
@invictustemplar57812 күн бұрын
makes sense that the terminator characters get an update for an edition which focuses on terminators. Though I never really understood why people cringe at the sled Logan Grimnar rides in, it's very much a nod to Norse mythology with Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjóstr who are two mountain goats that pulled a sled that Thor rode on, very similar to Logan Grimnar's model too.
@jeffmoeller45222 күн бұрын
While I can understand the preference for the viking side of the Space Wolves more than the wolf theme, for me they will always be the wolfish chaps they were when they first hit the shelves. Crazy hair, wolf tails and teeth everywhere, and yes, the captain model with the stylized wolf helm was one of my favorite figures. It was wacky, it was the 90's, and I loved it.
@pokemastercube2 күн бұрын
for the blood angels they got the named characters right (just being bigger versions of their old kits, even if they missed a oppertunity for giving dante wings), but the generic buts all feel poor, no wings on sanguainary guard, death company not having their fun details, no jump pack sanguiniry priest, no libarian dreadnought....the BA update overall is a fail
@RunesonWargaming2 күн бұрын
Not entirely. The Sanguinor is a giant miss. In the lore he solos Ka’Bandha (the greatest Bloodthirster). On the tabletop he can barely handle Chaos Spawn. At least they made Mephiston good though.
@The_Captain40k2 күн бұрын
Shame to hear about the knights. They're the one kit the Empire really need. Hopefully now they've seen Old World isn't dead on arrival they'll put some more investment into it and we'll get these kits in future.
@FluteGnome3 күн бұрын
Old world rumours🎉🎉🎉🎉 fucking yassss
@danielpedersensevaride59282 күн бұрын
Ohhhh shit we got a name!!!! Man I'm so bloody hyped for our Eldar second wave, it's been long enough and I can't wait
@Tulkash012 күн бұрын
The old world: magic was everywhere before the Great War against chaos. It was simply not regulated, because the college of magic had not been founded. Therefore it is plausible we’ll get a wizard type mini, just not a college wizard one.
@nesses10872 күн бұрын
as a space wolf player who has had this discussion before with other sw players. MOST people want the viking aesthetic. lore wise the term "space wolf" and all the wolf names is because of the imperium mistranslating fenrisian. I pray to the allfather (big E) that we get more of a Nordic approach in terms of design for both this range update and hopefully russ himself later on
@Vikingeek2 күн бұрын
My understanding is that at the time TOW is set the Colleges of Magic haven’t been set up yet - so no ‘coloured’ wizards like in WHFB. But I see no reason why they wouldn’t have magic users from before the college times
@Kalemvir12 күн бұрын
New Arjack? Praise the All Father! Hammer Squad is back on the menu boys!
@stuntman0832 күн бұрын
Only Reikland banned wizards outright, the rest had rogue wizards of every school, including the banned ones
@JumpyWizard002 күн бұрын
Boy, there better be Russ alongside those swolves...
@nakenmil2 күн бұрын
JUST ADD THE OLD PLASTIC MULTIPART EMPIRE GENERAL! It was fucking amazing! It's a CRIME that it's no longer sold! Mounted and on foot, and with the coolest goddamn standard you've ever seen!
2 күн бұрын
You know if you have a stupid idea but then if you double down on it then it becomes a clever idea? Well... What if they make a Wrong Trousers space marines chapter? They could have massive legs with giant underpants. You could make Coteaz Chapter Master. Then he wouldn't look so out of place. Admit it, you started sceptical. But now you're intrigued.
@ronanjohnson97182 күн бұрын
Tbh I'm still hoping for new Knights, idk if anyone else has noticed this but the units that get new models don't appear in any of the big army shots in the Old World books (Dwarf lord on shieldbearers, Empire knights, and a wood elf lord on Forest Dragon are all conspiciously absent)
@lorgaraurelian70652 күн бұрын
I reckon the dreadnoughts is gonna be a big upset. I strongly suspect they're gonna lose bjorn and murderfang, they're getting rid of old dreads and if there's no rumours on them then people need to prepare for the worst
@Harrison-cr2wl3 күн бұрын
Here for the old world content 🎉 hope you do some lord of the rings content too!
@thashadowspawn3 күн бұрын
Awesome Sauce Brotha!!! This is starting my Day of Right Amen! 💪🏽😁💪🏽
@ruslanhoncharenko21792 күн бұрын
Is Leagues of Votann 2nd wave still happening in 10th edition? What about World Eaters 2nd wave? Any rumours?
@Frankschtaldt2 күн бұрын
It makes a lot of sense for new wizards. The schools of magic aren't around during the old world setting, and all the existing empire wizard models are themed around those schools.
@dustinrobinson62722 күн бұрын
I really hope my favorite Space Wolf Lucas the trickster gets a new model too
@chrisforeman41642 күн бұрын
Can't wait for the Wolves refresh, really excited to see the reveal of Logan Grimnar
@mariokastner31922 күн бұрын
Old Space Wolf Eldars 😱
@Tulkash012 күн бұрын
You had me at “Old World”
@krakenattacken82302 күн бұрын
we need thorgrim >:( im starting to get an itch to grudge gw
@uther102 күн бұрын
Space Wolves are the Best Space Marines!
@lupuskonig9Күн бұрын
I disagree
@derekharkins89472 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to ride this space wolves hype for the next year
@LynxLord19912 күн бұрын
Yes thats Arjac, sounds great for the wolves. Sounds like 2025 is my year both Eldar and wolves
@brownmims23112 күн бұрын
I hope Logan's new model is a call back to the original Lehman Russ if it has the wolves
@cazza16302 күн бұрын
100% agree with you about how the space wolves should be depicted, your spot on, they made 1 of the coolest factions a meme
@thelegendsmith30632 күн бұрын
Arjac and njal are both resin/fine cast as are a bunch of characters honestly
@MonsterandGames2142 күн бұрын
Really hoping with space wolves we get a new ulrik the slayer and Lucy's model, also thunderwolf cavalry too
@TheArchivistArchive2 күн бұрын
Can you spell that Valrak, the phoenix lord for the warp spiders? Because if it's Lhykosidae, that's a thing in-universe that's been rumoured to be their lost phoenix lord.
@leanderschuster31962 күн бұрын
We all know Valrak can't spell
@Huscarle09Күн бұрын
Fantasy Space Vikings is definitely the asthetic needed for Space Wolves...Wolf heads on the Wolf Priests but everything else should be axes, fur and barbarian rage! Plus packs of bigger Thunder Woles and Fenrisian wolves
@thenapalmbrothershq55852 күн бұрын
Starting the week with a severe waffling.
@TheMichaelBroad2 күн бұрын
This is the Valrak way
@spiffymussel15372 күн бұрын
I’m so glad I realized sooner than later that GW would retire a bunch of the older Blood Angels stuff. I went to all my local game stores and bought a bunch of great Firstborn sculpts.
@tonnehead7772 күн бұрын
A true master of the engagement farming with those name pronunciations again!😂
@EzperInSpace2 күн бұрын
Im same as you. I love to think of space wolves as Space Vikings. Furries aint my thing lol
@brandtdrake22313 күн бұрын
Furry full moon 😂. Rumors to get the week started. GW with a bit of egg on face. Hope corsairs are in the beginning of next year.
@Brutalise2 күн бұрын
I'd be soooo happy if they gave us Wolf Priest back. Been quite salty about their removal since last edition. At this point I'm just worried about our unique battle line units
@mechaplatypus822 күн бұрын
FINALLY some quality content. Give me all the Space Wolf rumors!
@Prometheus40KStudio2 күн бұрын
i totally agree with you when i first started 40k SW were viking style and that was my first army for that reason, hope they go back to there roots
@danieledwards48942 күн бұрын
Space Wolves chatter starts at 5:09. Your welcome.
@Arkus2 күн бұрын
I really hope Lukas gets a new model in this refresh.
@thehonestaspy1022 күн бұрын
I think people mean that the Colleges of Magic hadn't been founded by Teclis yet as he did that after the war that has yet to happen in the Old World timeline. Humans had magic but they were largely untrained hedge wizards of varying ability and control.
@Bakroth852 күн бұрын
"That's just my personal opinion and you can't have a go at me for that." I'm pretty sure that's actually 90% of the internet. 🤣
@thehonestaspy1022 күн бұрын
As a Blood Angels fan thank you for sympathy, the true devastation of Baal by GW is still a fresh wound
@redfatherfigure2 күн бұрын
I'm huge into Viking history and culture. I've read many of the sagas, and my family even traced our genealogy back to Rollo. I SHOULD love Space Wolves as a faction and be drawn to their models, but I'm not. Valrak said it right. It's too much wolf, not enough Norseman. If they did get more of that Norse feel, I would probably consider collecting them.
@richardcowan87852 күн бұрын
It might have already been said but the lykanos was the name of the warp spider 'exarch' in the c s goto book eldar prophecy. So it could be they are being clever and using old fluff or it could still be wish listing with that name. But in the book it did imply it was the pheonix lord for warp spiders, golden armour etc
@LMR0410822 күн бұрын
Too much waffling…. No chap, you’re fine. I adore the waffle and sheer joy you bring.
@BigPapaDrewski2 күн бұрын
If we’re following the same pattern of the CSM and SM army refreshes, having their primarch arrive with or shortly after the refresh. Is it safe to assume that Russ is most likely the next Loyalist Primarch ??
@brandtdrake22313 күн бұрын
Yes to getting rid of santa sled. It was just silly. 🎉let’s make the Space Wolves lethal again and not another meme.
@brandtdrake22312 күн бұрын
Would actually like a space wolf vs drukhari bit of lore. One of the best short stories I’ve read was harlequins vs space wolves unit. Brutal, lore full of honor, and enigma of the harlequins was enhanced.
@TheDeceptiveMoss2 күн бұрын
No, more memes
@kellyhoesing25732 күн бұрын
Lethal Memes
@lukevalentine905623 сағат бұрын
Magic was around, just not in the form of the Colleges and was extremely stigmatised. Middenheim had a Wizard’s guild that predated the founding of the colleges for example and Talabacland had a strong tradition of Druidic magic. Obviously this might all be changed.
@richardcowan87852 күн бұрын
Also for OW empire, I hope they reprint the ironsides and the character models like kurt helborg....some of the best models ever imo
@junglecamper47173 күн бұрын
No friday no foil
@thequietman59342 күн бұрын
Give us Karl Franz great great great great grandfather! Harl Kranz on a Griffin. Also Wizards were outlawed in the Empire prior to Magnus the Pious and Teclis establishing the colleges of magic after the big Chaos invasion.
@Britishgridironfilms2 күн бұрын
Full Moon 🌕🌕🌕🌕. Val spent his weekend painting castles.
@richardgroat90432 күн бұрын
New Wizards for empire are likely pre college of magic options. Would be odd to see college of magic wizards 200ish years early. Therefore new models needed to cover pre-college empire magic
@jonathancampbell77982 күн бұрын
I mean, we have sweeping hawk wings on the autarch so I hope they’d stick around
@marcogiulianini43702 күн бұрын
Hope for space wolves players Will have a good refresh....Better than our Blood Angels models... GW hates we Blood Angels... 😢
@stuartcairns3382 күн бұрын
Any chance Votann will appear next year? There's a few rumour engines for them?
@Flight_of_Icarus2 күн бұрын
The Space Wolves are getting a big refresh? Good, more fools to smite off the table with my Rubrics.
@morgansheepman24032 күн бұрын
Swooping Hawks will still have wings. But they'll be using the same wings as now
@stuartperry37613 күн бұрын
Tell us what the new Tau models are Val!
@ChapterMasterValrak3 күн бұрын
They're shaped as bins, because they belong in them.
@stuartperry37612 күн бұрын
@@ChapterMasterValrak ooooooooooer
@artusyeddou57922 күн бұрын
I swear I’m the one who’s going to turn into a beast if valrak leaks Space Wolves before the Emperors Children
@tcorbin2222 күн бұрын
There is a legendary Warp Spider from the lore called Lhykosidae which is rumoured to be their Pheonix Lord (you can search it on the lexicanum), could that be the name you are trying to pronounce?
@equos50602 күн бұрын
What I need is a separate set of 50 bare heads with great flowing hair to convert my Wolves.
@foreverfornever11242 күн бұрын
We shouldnt lump the Space Wolves refresh in with the DA and especially not the BA refresh. SW are on a different path considering their primarch is set to return, on top of their range being more vast than both DA and BA combined. Sure the SW will lose models but they have way too many for them to simple just get rid of half their range. Not entirely something out of the realm of GW who occasionally yeets whole armies, but considering how popular SW are, GW isnt doing that with space marines no matter the chapter. I bet we will at the very least as get a 1st and 2nd wave of models. I still think thats true for BA and DA for 11th ed as well
@VivaLaJam262 күн бұрын
Anything juicy about Thousand Sons? Need to know what I'm going up against when playing those dusty boys.
@Grayfox2512 күн бұрын
Only rumors ive heard are psychic robots (sadly not dreads just robots like castellen robots)
@VivaLaJam262 күн бұрын
@@Grayfox251 Hey, the Castellax-Achea Automata are pretty cool. If we get a more psychic chaos infused version, that would be cool!
@Grayfox2512 күн бұрын
@@VivaLaJam26 I just hope it’s more than that like some more infantry as well (melee sot maybe? Please?)
@HalfZatoichiСағат бұрын
@@Grayfox251 Castellax is a rumour only. It's not the first time Thousand Sons got described to use units that are not on the tabletop (Silver Tower, Mirrorfiend, Thrall Wizards etc.). I started TS 6 years ago and they released a single character for us since that moment, at this point I feel we'll get a Terminator Sorcerer and nothing else.
@Grayfox25155 минут бұрын
@HalfZatoichi That honestly would probably be as much of an insult as what genesteallers got, bc thousand sons really need another big release (along with votann and WE)
@NumblelardКүн бұрын
Like GW forgot the existance of Karandras in the release of Striking Scorpions, them forget the existance of de Fire Dragons in the release of Fuegan
@JohnPC002 күн бұрын
A shame about the knights, but just give it time. I'm hoping the wizard is a multi-part plastic kit that gives you a lot of options, like the old battle wizard kit.
@graefx10 сағат бұрын
Id love if Logan Grimnar stayed on the dreadnight oval. I mean Id love keeping the santa sleigh. Im annoyed GW continues to remove the wackiness for more generic straight faced scifi. Im fine with making the SW a little less wolfy, but not at the expense at making everything smooth and samey. I always remember the sales pitch as theyre a fantasy army in space. Maybe Im biased from 5th, but the Sternguard, Sanguinary guard, the death compan kits, GW is glassing their own stuff.
@streetmark982 күн бұрын
Space Wolves will be the final canary re Primaris overriding chapter aesthetics/unit divergency. Particularly their unique units.
@D_Doyle2 күн бұрын
I hope that Empire get a priest of Ulric , and I have no idea why they would release new wizard models since they still have that box of 4 still available in AOS
@abethegm22 сағат бұрын
Man...if those models for the space wolves pan out my wallet will hate me.
@nightlord66532 күн бұрын
Am glad arjac is still going to be around
@jgt11202 күн бұрын
I'm building Eldar right now, I have a combat patrol, the Eldrich Omens box, and a Spiritseer. I'm holding off on 2k until the release, but want to get 1k. What models will be safe to buy? I just don't want to buy something before it gets refreshed or sent to Legends
@manapause2 күн бұрын
Avatar, banshees, scorpions, jetbikes. Basically any of the stuff released in last few years…
@jcbraun8872 күн бұрын
Bjornn and Murderfang go to legends and we get a generic "grey hunters with bolt rifles" yay
@andrewharris77142 күн бұрын
Magic was around for sure, just not the Colleges of Magic as they had later on.
@RyngsRaccoon2 күн бұрын
Why not both?... Both Viking and Werewolfy? Why not Viking Werewolf themed?
@buglord2522 күн бұрын
Wolfpriest load out will be the same as every chaplain
@Deadjim172 күн бұрын
Grimnar losing his sled? But how will the Imperium's children get the presents during Sanguinalia?
@redcoated25172 күн бұрын
All space wolves characters are going to come with a cone of shame and a squeaky toy
@kellyhoesing25732 күн бұрын
Maybe the wizard box is an update for the AoS Battlemages
@edbangor91632 күн бұрын
I'm waiting for IK news. Chaos has a lot more options, so we need to balance that out.