Chara vs Omori | (Undertale vs Omori)

[@enemyshadowdemon]

Both refuse to die. Both will keep on fighting. Both will then be defined by futile struggle, doomed from the very start of the fight... AND THEY WON'T REGRET A SECOND OF IT!

[@Salibascored]

Omori can emotionally break Chara. They are shown to be Suicidal various times “They didn’t climb the mountain for a happy reason” Canonically killed themself

[@gok5471]

@@Salibascoredslip on a banana

[@SH-Hiro]

@@Salibascored chara at the end of genocide route is wayyy different than the chara that killed thereself...

[@enemyshadowdemon]

I wonder when someone will point out the very obvious reference I made

[@stillfenfen]

@@enemyshadowdemonUltrakill, Sisyphus Prime’s death monologue. There you go.

[@InvertedLaughability]

It's a fucking tie, Chara restarts the whole timeline, *OMORI* doesn't succumb, IT'S A FUCKING TIE

[@Salibascored]

Omori can emotionally break Chara

[@InvertedLaughability]

@@Salibascored Chara doesn't give a fuck about emotions, if *OMORI* and Chara fought it'd be a genocide route, therefore Chara is going by the genocide influence therefore CHARA DOESNT CARE

[@gok5471]

Unless omori banish chara to blackspace till she goes insane and commit low tier god on herself

[@InvertedLaughability]

@@gok5471 *re-fucking-sets*

[@Clap185]

@@gok5471 dont forget, chara can reset or restart the literal timeline

[@ceosamotlaperion2617]

The best protagonists/antagonists of indie games (my opinion)

[@turtlehub2731]

Spoilers here: While I respect your opinion, I am confused by it. Omori is not a bad villain, but Omori is barely a character, and mores just a representation of Sunny's suppression and inner childishness. I like Omori for what he/it is, but I feel like Omori is more of a force than an actual character. Chara has Boba Fett syndrome. They barely do anything in the main story. You have one interaction with them at the end and that is it. Nothing wrong with liking Chara, but I don't understand out of all the fun undertale bad guys, you like Chara the best.

[@thenerdlord8894]

@@turtlehub2731Spoilers: Omori has character, you have to play the Hikomori route to see it tho

[@AryanAkane]

Omori is the worst indie game to ever be made.

[@bruhwtf2662]

​@@AryanAkane bait spotted

[@AryanAkane]

@@bruhwtf2662 It's not bait. The community is proof enough of how godawful it is.

[@fireball9403]

This edit is AMAZING. and i agree with your statements. it is a tie because both can defeat each other Chara can win if they destroy whitespace or Black space. Omori wins if he erases Chara and hurt them emotionally to give up.

[@PogaltaEditz]

Tysm ❤️

[@dhhxbbn]

i agree but what would omori erase of chara? Did you mean like, erasing chara's character file? (since both of them are from games i assume both can control or manipulate, delete, recreate or reset files)

[@fireball9403]

@@dhhxbbn not a game like. more like erasing chara from existence kind of thing. just vanish erased poof as if it was just a dream. but of course chara will live since determination but omori tends to break them first then erasing them.. even if chara is soulless. omori has this kind of thing to make someone feel anything whether they were soulless, emotionless. to feeling emotions or giving guilt and pain. which would lose the determination for chara then get erased by omori. making it now impossible for chara to comeback.

[@estegamer4628]

​@@fireball9403 Nah this is a one shot fight, the first who shot wins,like old time wars

[@fireball9403]

@@estegamer4628 agreed whoever draws first wins cowboy style.

[@buckshadow]

They will always return He will never succumb They could never be defeated if they worked together

[@Glitchtalefans0]

True genciode duo

[@-billcipher-]

Charas nonbinary 🤓

[@buckshadow]

@@-billcipher- I fixed it, shut up

[@sans101]

​@@-billcipher-well frisk is but Chara is unknown.

[@jazzyvino]

I liked the last statement, I just saw another short that is "Omori and Chara vs Saitama and Goku" and of course they won

[@NagitoPlayEverything]

Omori getting the credit he deserved

[@wukong_strongest]

Naw it's a tie b u t the most likely outcome is omori

[@sans101]

His name is sunny omori is his sister

[@NagitoPlayEverything]

@@sans101 his sister is mari, that is omori his real name is sunny

[@sans101]

@@NagitoPlayEverything oh my bad for being mistaken.

[@NagitoPlayEverything]

@@sans101 its alright bro everyone have mistakes

[@timer_boi_]

I feel the smoothness inside me😫

[@parapqpq]

Me too 😫

[@truenforcer7440]

🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

[@Wisecore_inf]

😅 ayo bro whay

[@controversialguy1]

😳🤨

[@Goofstertairwithagun]

💀

[@zero_suffer3910]

Even if Omori wins and Chara dies She will come back, come back, and come back As long as she's determined

[@AnimeArtest1]

yeah but thats cheating

[@ChristopherThompsonPauls]

It would be an endless battle lol, Omori has his "will not succumb" while chara has reset/determination

[@fireball9403]

Omori is gonna try to guilttrip Chara and make them lose determination. then chara can't come back. but if Chara pulls the erase first on headspace its over.

[@zero_suffer3910]

@@fireball9403 Oh, that's an interesting idea. But I don't know if you can make someone feel guilty whose soul is literally made entirely of determination ┐⁠(⁠⁠∵⁠⁠ ⁠)⁠┌ Moreover, change Chara, who generally does not care about everyone

[@fireball9403]

@@zero_suffer3910 i mean to be honest. making them guilty will probably make the determination fade and feeling like giving up. i mean chara jumped to the underground for an unhappy reason.

[@aspect2338]

omori gonna push chara down the stairs 💀💀💀

[@basil_726]

💀

[@IApologiseForQuitting.213]

💀💀

[@ak3smii]

💀💀💀

[@moongod4174]

💀💀💀💀

[@kama04627]

💀💀💀💀💀

[@doomlord0773]

considering how omori works, the most powerful he could be is without sunny, since he only gets defeated in a fight when sunny controls him. if you think about it, every time the game over screen appears, that's sunny, not omori, the persistence simply repeats since sunny doesn't get knocked out, if sunny is defeated instead when omori doesn't succumb, that means every defeat in headspace is actually sunny losing, explaining why we only get to persist once as omori whilst in his fight he doesn't falter, he can't, sunny was the only thing holding him back

[@cherrydude.378]

Omori, an alternate personality that only torments and tortures one person. Vs a Demon-Like Girl who can erase and reset reality. How is this even fair?

[@unpatohespecial2355]

Omori vs the fallen human of scaling universal Dont is much? sorry for my bad english

[@cherrydude.378]

@@unpatohespecial2355 I can't get what you're saying.

[@Usanace]

​@@cherrydude.378he probably wanted to say that Chara can be lowballed to universal+ (and I'll add that Chara is an Asriel victim)

[@cherrydude.378]

@@Usanace I'll just repost this. It's like no one even played both games. Omori cannot affect Chara nor anyone for that matter in any way, shape or form, did you guys forget that Omori is Sunny's guilt personified? He's an alter ego. His only purpose is to serve as Sunny's reminder as to why he is unhappy and why he needs to stay in his dream world. Omori has absolutely no power outside of Sunny's mind, and he has never shown any feats of erasing others nor the player, the ending where Sunny loses is not Omori erasing him, it's Sunny giving up to his depression and suicidal thoughts. The "Omori cannot succumb" argument is also flawed. It's still Sunny's guilt overwhelming him, and even Sunny himself beat Omori by letting go and finally accepting that he has to tell the truth and can't hide it no more. He gave up on his dream world and pulled through the severe guilt. And he has absolutely no fight feats. Chara, on the other hand: Through the player's hand, became your L.O.V.E personified, is not only a demon by the looks of it, but was always evil. As seen by Asriel's dialogue during the end of the Pacifist Run if you visit him at the Flower Bed that Frisk wakes up: “ And then... When we got to the village... They were the one who... Wanted to use our full power... I was the one who resisted. ” This is more insight that Chara has no remorse and only hatred. Not only can't Omori take advantage of that because he's not Chara's hatred, only Sunny's Guilt, but he will Succumb because Chara kills the player by the end of the genocide run, and even resets/erases the world of Undertale via game files, and rebuilds it because YOU sold YOUR soul. Chara even calls you a Psychopath if you do the Genocide run many times, it shows that Chara is controlled, it feels no remorse, but even after all they do, You, the Player, is still a bigger monster than Chara itself acknowledges. Chara kills the player, Omori "kills" (more so Sunny incentives to kill himself) a character. These are the differences none of you are getting, this fight is not even close. And I'm not even mentioning the gameplay aspect of Chara being able to do infinite numbers of "999999999" damage. Omori is losing no concept of Diff, not even being in the Headspace, Dreamworld nor Blackspace would help. Some people are even saying Omori is Universal

[@Usanace]

@@cherrydude.378 I know this. I was just explaining what the other guy was trying to say. Chara negs Omori. (and Asriel win against both of them)

[@raquelmanuel6139]

alternate title: 4 Dimensional being with red eyes that can destroy a universe vs a planetary child that can erase anything with his red hands 💀

[@axiomjoever]

Technically, It's Universal child that can erase anything with his red hands with red eyes

[@redtord7194]

you can get Chara to easily 5D at the very least and that's just a massive lowball

[@axiomjoever]

@@redtord7194 Elaborate

[@Tailsftn]

​@@redtord7194tf u on 😭 chara is mountain level fr

[@dogebuttermilk4221]

⁠@@redtord7194no you can’t their ONLY feat is destroying the underground☠️

[@DigitalDynasty676]

"911 what's your emergency?" "HELP,2 KIDS ARE OUTSIDE MY HOUSE,ONE WITH A YELLOW AND GREEN SHIRT WITH A KNIFE IN HIS HAND AND THE OTHER WITH DARK AND WHITE SHIRT AND HANDS ARE COMING FROM HIM"

[@yu0_glitch]

The cops gonna find u dead lmao😈😈

[@Ethereal_Trooper76]

I feel like that battle would be very subjective cause you have to acknowledge that chara’s determination essentially makes her immortal with the literal ability to piece her souls back after death and return and the only counter to this is to break her determination but seeing as chara’s one and only goal now is to wipe everyone out with no mercy I just don’t see that happening

[@Salibascored]

Frisk is the one with Determination. At what point in the game does it show Chara using determination

[@miyaobviouslyishere]

Chara got back up because of frisk's determination

[@user-he8vy4tc8j]

The actual challenge here is if omori can make Chara feel guilty cuz if not then its only a matter of time b4 he gets killed by Chara since Chara is made out of determination and as far as ik chara doesn't actually care abt anybody she literally just wants to kill everyone so that'll prove to be hard/impossible, shes gonna keep coming back again and again

[@IApologiseForQuitting.213]

I mean Omori did try convincing Sunny to end his own life because Omori knew he couldn’t kill Sunny so I think that he could do one of his classic ‘You loved her and you killed her’ things

[@Salibascored]

Chara has shown to be Suicidal 2 times. And has canonically comitted Suicide. Chara also feels Emotion by helping you defeat Asriel in True pacifist.

[@Sezenian]

@@Salibascored But Chara loses her ability to feel emotions in the G-Route like Flowey did. She becomes numb to it. A true demon of destruction.

[@Jackatjack-3-I-Think]

​@@IApologiseForQuitting.213 "TORIEL loved him, and you KILLED him" "ASGORE loved him, and you KILLED him" "ASRIEL Loved you, and you KILLED him" "The Whole Underground Loved him, and you KILLED him" "You loved him, and YOU KILLED HIM"

[@tertywater]

W Edit 🔥🔥🔥 Never knew omori scaled this high damn

[@PogaltaEditz]

Omori is incredibly durable, pretty smart with a bunch of really strong hax. If you can't deal with him, he'll likely erase you from existence or break you mentally and end up beating you that way. Killing him is extremely hard, and he's good at killing durable people since he has existence erasure 👍. Him and Chara are kinda equal in strength and durability, but imo UT scales very slightly higher than Omori.

[@tertywater]

@@PogaltaEditz After looking into it (on vsbw) I gotta say I agree. They're both ~multiversal, but chara has higher AP/DC/Dura. She might be able to survive omori's existence erasure because she has low-godly regen, acasuality, and several types of immortality, but she can't kill him either since he also has many types of immortality. It really comes down to if chara can resist the existence erasure or not, but otherwise it'll be a tie since they can't kill each other (or potentially extreme diff either way, it would be a close battle)

[@InvertedLaughability]

​@@PogaltaEditzand yet, a child still beat him.

[@YukiSnow75]

Chara wins he’s able to do 999999999 to a level 20 frisk after genocide route along with determination they got the load save and reset ability alsp chara got erase

[@nzqarc]

​@@InvertedLaughabilityonly because that specific child manifested him into existence. But ye :P

[@bitchgetter2000]

You could argue that it depends on the setting If the fight takes place in headspace ir blackspace, then Chara is done But in a timeline setting they'd beat Omori I doubt either could last particularly long if not in either so 🤷‍♀️

[@Ridleyy]

Bro, have you ever seen Chara in a battle before he doesn’t even realize that Cara can just save her progress

[@IApologiseForQuitting.213]

So can Omori. Omori’s entire deal is also bringing down peoples determination and will to live so..

[@sans101]

Well Charas gender is a mystery but it's a tie but it depends who attacks first tho.

[@IamOnMelaniesSide]

[ ° My power wont REFUSE. However he wouldn't SUCCUMB. It's a simple battle where he would start to become angry. Meanwhile, my smile would fade away. ]

[@toastwithoutjam]

If omori doesn't kill Chara, he'll convince her to kill herself.

[@the_chill_man]

I don’t think that will happen due the the chara in this battle is a demon and not the human and their only goal is to kill so probably not

[@ShatteredRBLX]

Doubt he could, there's a reason they're so utterly determined... because they're not even using their own determination! They're using Frisk's / yours.

[@fireball9403]

omori the ltg

[@Kasai606]

Think it'd just be a stalemate unless Chara whipped out a violin

[@NotSoJonathanDingleberry]

she still needs to get the note for the final duet

[@Stoopid420]

Chara and asriel play 'his theme' as a duet

[@Y.o.s.h]

Gets pushed down a flight of stairs

[@KraidTheSpacePirate]

Chara doesn't even exist. She's dead and has been dead since the start of the game. Every action committed by Frisk and of course, Frisk is controlled by you. This isn't a question about chara but a question about Frisk. By the end of the game, Frisk isn't doing much. She kills a weak skeleton and two goats. I don't even know why people are making fights about a game that is meant to be about morals.

[@DOGEELLL]

Because its the powerscaling community The same people that compare badly written chars 24/7 and think only action matter in a fiction 😂

[@CharaDreemurrfan]

If Chara doesn't exist, who erased the world of undertale with a single strike? Who was talking to you if not Chara? and possessed Frisk after soulless pacifist? Oh yeah and Frisk isn't a girl,they're non-binary in canon

[@sophia_gamerxd7737]

Omori doesnt even exist either lmao since he was basically created in sunny's imagination

[@lukiejr1740]

​@@sophia_gamerxd7737it's so funny that they made this comment thinkkng they did something.. unlike Omori, Chara actually DID exist in the mortal world.

[@YukiSnow75]

Chara is strong he was able to 1 shot a genocide lv 20 frisk which mean that 99999999999 damage he can do that to sunny/omori

[@yu0_glitch]

My favorite indie characters fighting against each other:

[@mariposa7013]

Omori is a Figment of Imagination, he is nearly omnipotent. He can control the entire universe around him like if it was a lucid dream.

[@Zephryax]

but chara can delete timelines and destroy universes, it would prob be a draw

[@mariposa7013]

@@Zephryax The power of erasing universes is nothing compared to semi-omnipotence, Omori Could create and destroy multiverses if he wanted to do so.

[@Zephryax]

@@mariposa7013 im gonna take your word because i know nothing about omori

[@user-gv4el2qj8m]

He's B.Sing through his teeth. Omori is just the personification of Sunny's depression,an alter ego and has no power outside of influencing sunny.​@@Zephryax

[@justordinaryguy8407]

​@@user-gv4el2qj8m Fax. He is below human tier lol

[@danipro3654]

Chara solos with cosmology cuz omori it's just a dream lol.

[@orrorsaness5942]

Lol 😂

[@hayriyeerken7809]

Omori isn't just a dream It's more than a dream and It's cosmology can be scaled above undertale

[@orrorsaness5942]

@@hayriyeerken7809 The author of Omori claimed that Undertale is 2-B and Omori is Low 2-C in Cosmology The only thing that Omori has over Undertale is Hax and that is a maybe

[@marcierex4547]

@@hayriyeerken7809 the cosmology for or omori is planetary to maybe uni while UTs cosmology is legit 4D Chara herself is inf 4D due to destroying the inf ammount of timelines that exist in UT

[@jiayu-sama7989]

So is the battle taking place in Headspace? Cause Omori is a figment of Sunny’s imagination who came into existence in order to protect Sunny from learning the truth of Mari’s death

[@sophia_gamerxd7737]

Spoilers lmao

[@M3ll0wIsHere]

This was a spoiler for people who didn't played Omori, anyways I think it takes place in Headspace. Or if possible, being the two conected like half and half so they can fight.

[@fireball9403]

spoilers to others but yeah this should definetly take place in headspace if not than idk how they fight at all.

[@krqstair]

Chara can reset time lines. She takes it due to sheer hax

[@HikiSilvr]

chara hax has been debunked omori slams

[@animeisbadngl]

@@HikiSilvr debunk chara then go on in the games code, chara was supposed to delete the game off your computer but toby miscoded and it only closes it which scales chara to boundless even if, a timeline in undertale contains an infinite amount of universes, chara deleted the timeline and exists beyond it, which scales her to atleast low outerversal

[@HikiSilvr]

@@animeisbadngl meta fictional it doesnt scale anywhere and plus you debunked the feat yourself it wasnt added into the official game

[@fatalorigin]

I'm seeing this, and I have actually seen both of them in the game and wiki, so it seems Chara is Multiversal while Omori is low - Multiversal, so I'm just saying Chara can beat Omori if Chara gets Delete, Reset, and Determination

[@HikiSilvr]

@@fatalorigin that isnt canon tho chara is city level, she has barely any feats except destroying the underground (which is a city)

[@giorgiooni9718]

chara can come back stronger as many times by determination as she wants and destroy a universe. (I think the stats are good but I don't think he'll win)

[@Salibascored]

So can Omori, and Omori has created and destroyed the Universe every 3 days

[@lighttheassassinyt7935]

This is on another level man

[@RrboretrumFM.-rs7ko]

Everybody gangstas until someone with 98% in Sonic Wafer comes by.

[@sans101]

Sonic wafer is a coin 🤦

[@nahuv1655]

Of course taking it with a grain of salt because this debate is kinda silly, but if we take away both their abilities take literally one-hit eachother (Omori's ability to erase anything and Chara's ability to reset timelines), this fight would literally just be a stalemate, Chara gets stronger the more she kills, and Omori gets stronger the more he "dies" so I feel like the fight would just keep going on forever.

[@XennaShieldOP-pu6le]

LISA protag enters the chat:

[@Smokeshremy3466]

he won't beat my determination =)

[@NotSoJonathanDingleberry]

And he will not succumb.

[@birdican]

if you even encounter omori you are in his domain he has all control

[@charadreamer6704]

But Chara can erase an entire universe in one strike, she could done the same with his domain, or Chara could just load back in time before she got into the Domain because Save/Load is a real power in Undertale that even Monster could have

[@nzqarc]

​​​@@charadreamer6704Omori doesn't succumb (similar to save/load) and can emotionally and psychologically manipulate Chara into losing Determination. Plus, he can live in people's head. So most likely a tie

[@Daedera]

​@@charadreamer6704If its his domain omori can just erase her power could he not? or send her to black space with nothing so chara is trapped for good.

[@Tailsftn]

DOMAIN EXPANSION

[@orrorsaness5942]

@@Daederayup

[@stopYmpersonatYngmYacCount]

Omori and his entire franchise dies horribly and gets erased on conceptual level the instant an undertale sub preon gets within a billion canons distance from his canon.

[@ZuciyaUndertalefan]

Chara kazanır çünkü Omori ne kadar Chara'yı öldürsede Chara her seferinde geri gelir ve unutma, Chara'nın kararlılığı var. Bu yüzden Omori'nin kazanması imkansız.

[@kiwilordu5004]

People who got confused ima explain This is a fair fight since both characters need a host otherwise they are nothing more than a feeling/soul They both can be killed proven by the fact that Omori good ending an undertale good ending(chara technically is still present but since there is no soul she is considered dead) They both try to manipulate their host since they are not physical but for this matchup we are going to think they are physical(I won’t give both characters Omoril will not succumb/Reset since they are in a empty area in a non physical place) Strength = Chara Durability = Omori (Charas durability is unknown) IQ = Omori BIQ = Chara Speed = Chara but they are close Abilities = Omori Endurance = Tie Stamina = both unknown Attack potency = Chara D.C = Omori Range = Omori Offense = Chara Defense = Omori Power = Tie but Chara has advantage Btw this is my list and the winner is Omori High Diff - Extreme diff

[@ShatteredRBLX]

Imo how is one going to kill the other and two, what destructive capabilities does Omori have?

[@123dcvz]

​@@ShatteredRBLXMental breakdown and some other weird shit, Since chara is a demon and not the actual human after dying in lore i don't really know how this would even happen

[@dogebuttermilk4221]

Omori takes speed and biq too because chara is featless in those categories

[@ShatteredRBLX]

@@dogebuttermilk4221 Apparently Chara is at least hypersonic+ with sea tea as "they should be comparable to Frisk"

[@dogebuttermilk4221]

@@ShatteredRBLX I mean I guess if “they should be compared to frisk” is a feat then yeah but Omori literally fights airplanes and planets

[@naviblu143]

I feel like it would generally depend WHERE the fight were to take place, considering omori is strongest and most in control is headspace/whitespace.

[@eraykocer135]

Right bro omori is not even real entity

[@cherrydude.378]

No it doesn't. Chara, in nothingness, under the player's control killed the Player himself and erased the world of Undertale. It doesn't mean anything because Omori is just Sunny's guilt alter ego, he won't erase Chara because not even the player of Undertale can do that, they not only took control of Asriel's Hyperdeath form as seen by his dialogue during your last moments saying goodbye to everyone, but they erased reality and created it once again because you sold your soul. This fight is extremely poorly researched.

[@bitchgetter2000]

​@@cherrydude.378Yeah it does, Omori controls EVERYTHING in headspace, Chara tries anything there and they'll end up like Basil. Think you dont know much about Omori, that or you're biased

[@cherrydude.378]

@@bitchgetter2000 I played this game for 18 hours and I think you don't have any idea where they both scale. Chara will kill Omori, because Chara has killed the player, the player who controlled Frisk and killed every monster. And what is the logic behind Chara losing to Omori when all it took to take Omori down was a damn song by Sunny and acknowledging his mistakes, moving on from his guilt and that he will tell the truth? Chara has erased the universe of Undertale. Omori has absolutely no feats whatsoever and everything that happens in Sunny's head and headspace are literally only happening on his head. Omori does not affect anyone else but Sunny, whereas Chara affects the player who is in another separate dimension/reality as well as It's own game, Omori, on the other hand, doesn't. So before you say I'm biased and haven't played the game, play the game yourself.

[@Salibascored]

@@cherrydude.378Blud Omori has destroyed and created a multiverse every 3 days for 4 years. And Omori can emotionally break Chara, they show emotion in true Pacifist (helping defeat Asriel). Omori can straight up erase things in the real World. He erased the closet door, Piano and Basils room. He even made Sunny think he was Omori. And made Sunny kill himself. Omori negs. And Chara is shown to be Suicidal 2 times? Omori could pull a “Asriel loved you, he loved you and you killed Hin” Keep in mind Chara has never canonically destroys Universe? They Destroyed the Underground. There is no evidence of them destroying a universe. Where as Omori has done so every 3 days for 4 years

[@CynTheSilliMurderDrone]

Omori is just a very powerful being not being able to die, Chara is powerful but Fragile Chara gets all the power but omori would still fight chara until chara gives up

[@dannystrong2074]

I can deny this entire video in the matter of a smaller video.

[@ldorganics]

Who chose to put Lucifer’s theme? 💀😭

[@PokeTrainer56]

I mean this matches up with the fight

[@ldorganics]

@@PokeTrainer56 I guess

[@sabine2819]

Chara slams bro💀💀

[@Michiboy]

Not even uni.

[@user-dd7hv2sx5b]

Chara Can Just Erase His World

[@dnte_cancer]

Omori using his ultimate attack-push chara down the stairs

[@blackowl110]

This fight will go for ever ☠️

[@VirusOfCheese]

Chara destroying a type 4 multiverse:

[@Usanace]

Imagine saying that an Asriel victim destroyed a type 4 multiverse. UT caps 4D and I'm still yet to see something proving that Chara destroyed more than one timeline

[@Salibascored]

Omori Has created and Destroyed a Multiverse every 3 days for 4 years in a row

[@maila319]

​@@Salibascoredthere is no multiverse in omori since omori takes place in a dream that sunny had which isn't real

[@sans101]

​​​@@Usanacechara destroys asrial and its in the game and the Undertale wiki but it's a tie.

[@josetarin8824]

​@@maila319man- its like saying that chara Is just from an pixel world- On this battle they probably have Equal dimensionality, because if It was on the underground chara would one shot Omori, and if It was on headspace Omori would one shot chara-

[@nelopprime1573]

a true unstoppable force vs immovable object situation. Omori, as he exists in RED SPACE, is tthe god of this dream world. This truth stays under wraps, anything that threatens its discovery is simply bainished to black space. It takes Sunny actively getting outside back into business in Faraway Town for this to come crumbling down. And even then, it takes Sunny's own persistence to overcome an Omori who will never succumb. And Chara? At first, in universe, Chara fills the completely diegetic role of the first fallen human, who lived and died with Asriel. Didn’t fall down for a very happy reason, and didnt go out for very happy or stable reasons either. It is our power that awakens them from death. The more diegetic angle would have Frisk as the "our" in that, though by the point if LV 20, Chara is more of a metanarrative being than one only in the narrative, the culmination of Our will. We, as the Anomaly, Player, however you put it, have brought this world to its limit, the absolute. Its inhabitants have been killed, the narrative have been killed. And so it is Chara who brings this to its true end, kills the world with a slash. Depending on what we say.... we may or may not see ourself as above consequences.

[@Sunnyomori51]

To put it simply. Chara will defeat omori in undertale world. Omori will defeat chara in his world. Both can’t die. Both have the ability and to erase things from existence (but omori scales higher than chara in this) And it’s a tie outside their worlds so

[@kilato9649]

Massive W Omori is underrated sadly

[@filio2575]

Great vid, as a real battle I think it's hard to choose who would win so I like your opinion of a draw, if we are talking ABSOLUTE PEAK, omori cannot die so I feel he would win, if we are talking realistically (ofc based on their reality) chara easily wins, after all omori is just a personification of emotions inside Sunny's mind

[@sanzharsalykov2440]

Стоп но чара в теле фриска тоже бесмертна

[@sanzharsalykov2440]

Типо, бесконечная битва у них может быть на пике сил

[@animeisbadngl]

omori can die from an attack that surpasses his dimensionality especially when chara can delete games off your computer

[@Salibascored]

@@animeisbadnglThe delete games was scrapped so not canon

[@animeisbadngl]

@@Salibascored it wasn't scrapped its still in the game its just bugged

[@rabbiray1314]

Remember when Omori did not succumb he still didn't die or defeat

[@-Sansy_UT-]

Both will keep fighting until it's Stalemate.

[@sophia_gamerxd7737]

Omori spoilers i think- Yall omori and headspace is literally sunny's creation, so if they battle in headspace, there is like no chance chara will win. (Sunny will make sure of it) However if they battle somewhere else, (which is highly unlikely being that omori can only exist in sunnys mind) it will be a very close tie

[@orrorsaness5942]

If it is in The Abyss (Undertale’s Hell) then Chara Wins If it was somewhere Random then It’s a Tie/Stalemate If it was in Headspace, then Omori Red Hands Chara.

[@sophia_gamerxd7737]

@@orrorsaness5942 this is a perfect explanation

[@orrorsaness5942]

Thanks, @@sophia_gamerxd7737

[@manrajkaila476]

Level 99 💀

[@bloxxerblocker]

bro gave Chara a false head start

[@TheImmortalSnaiI]

Depends on who’s universe they’re fighting in. If they’re in OMORI’s HEADSPACE, OMORI wins no diff because he can manipulate the fabric of space and time since he’s essentially god. If they’re in UNDERTALE then chara probably wins since humans have more determination, although, I’m not sure if omori would be classed as a monster or a human, since, he isn’t real and his abilities are impossible for a human.

[@chronosfearedits]

W edit 🔥

[@VGames-123dwp]

Smash both, anyways next question

[@nzqarc]

First of all, 🤨📸 Second of all, they are minors 💀

[@VGames-123dwp]

@@nzqarc i see this as an absolute win 💀💀💀

[@nzqarc]

@@VGames-123dwp 👮👮😐🫵

[@rBrianRanlehididiodof]

@@VGames-123dwp Hello I’m your local FBI agent please step outside to proceed arrestation for conspiracy to rape

[@fireball9403]

@@VGames-123dwp bro you are something

[@omorisballs]

The plot armor of OMORI is “OMORI did not succumb”

[@charadreamer6704]

But so is Chara plot armor? Chara plot armor is literally "But it refuse" and "Save/Load" with her plot attack being able to erase the entire universe

[@sparrowpillow]

@@charadreamer6704 to be fair, that is Frisk’s determination. However, if it is Chara with their determination, then you’re right.

[@charadreamer6704]

@@sparrowpillow Chara also has determination soul tho

[@granny_gaming3213]

As an Undertale and Omori fan, you made my day.

[@CEOofSachi]

Technically omori would lose, but yeah if we only talk about abilities. Let’s ignore the fact that Chara can load the save file whenever she wants, restarts after dying, learns from their opponent and keeps struggling until finishing the job.

[@Sosa-again]

Well, we never see Chara do that, they actually turn back to genocide soulless neutral, just cause Frisk and Chara, now is unite, probably Chara can't do that. And meanwhile, the Stranger say that actually Omori in headspace is a time loop cause when Omori enter in the red maze, he just reset the whole headspace, Who contains more reality, and even if small, planet and an existence of universe. Meanwhile, in Undertale is confirmed Just the sun, so.. Chara's HAX: low-solar system level. Omori's HAX: multiverse level But besides, we don't know if Chara can, is difficult make debate with a featless chara-cter (laugh) like Chara, they would just stop.

[@CEOofSachi]

@@Sosa-again omori outside of the head space got no power though

[@Sosa-again]

@@CEOofSachi and Chara outside the Undertale verse who is a game in a game, don't exist.

[@CEOofSachi]

@@Sosa-again eh, first, deltarune is an alternate universe, so we’re talking about different universes

[@Sosa-again]

@@CEOofSachi you know that Deltarune doesn't change anything here you know? Besides, Kris seems more controlled by the player, so this just say, once for all that all this is a game in a game.

[@igorjaksim-kirejczyk5647]

Omori takes Biq becouse bhe actually has some fightning skills. Chara still negs due to them having a higher cosmology

[@fireball9403]

@Mystery Nexus i mean one is headspace while the other is not from someones mind other than that. Omori is cool

[@fireball9403]

@Mystery Nexus headspace is in sunny head. chara is in the underground

[@fireball9403]

@Mystery Nexus alright i guess you do that.

[@fireball9403]

@Mystery Nexus this has the same vibes of the undertale fans explaining chara is multiversal because every save point produce massive timelines. and the destruction was multiversal or some shish

[@fireball9403]

@Mystery Nexus ​ good. yeah undertale gets debunk alot to wall level is infuriating. like even if asriel broke timelines they say nah he lost to a kid with a stick he will lose easy. when that kid is no ordinary kid and has the ability to tank infinite damage made it less weaker with hope and create dreams into reality and tank getting erased from time.

[@Itzabiscuit]

Chara has the power to reset and do everything again while still commiting genocide. Chara doesn't die she stay DETERMINED. She learns on what they do every death. She learns but they don't. She relies on a heart OMORI doesn't. So it would be fun to see who would win. Omori can well you can't exit his battle untill you beat him but the thing is "OMORI did not succumb" which causes you to see a harder boss and this "YOU loved her YOU killed her, HE loved her YOU KILLED HER, SHE LOVED HER YOU KILLED HER. Poor Sunny

[@Jackatjack-3-I-Think]

OMORI to Chara: "TORIEL loved him, and YOU KILLED him" "ASGORE loved him, and YOU KILLED him" "ASRIEL Loved you, and YOU KILLED him" "The Whole Underground Loved him, and YOU KILLED him" "You loved him, and YOU KILLED HIM"

[@underfan-101]

Where am I how did I get here I probably shouldn't have been awake for over 24 hours because I literally don't know how I got here

[@cherrydude.378]

After coming back with a better structured argument: It's like no one even played both games. Omori cannot affect Chara nor anyone for that matter in any way, shape or form, did you guys forget that Omori is Sunny's guilt personified? He's an alter ego. His only purpose is to serve as Sunny's reminder as to why he is unhappy and why he needs to stay in his dream world. Omori has absolutely no power outside of Sunny's mind, and he has never shown any feats of erasing others nor the player, the ending where Sunny loses is not Omori erasing him, it's Sunny giving up to his depression and suicidal thoughts. The "Omori cannot succumb" argument is also flawed. It's still Sunny's guilt overwhelming him, and even Sunny himself beat Omori by letting go and finally accepting that he has to tell the truth and can't hide it no more. He gave up on his dream world and pulled through the severe guilt. And he has absolutely no fight feats. Chara, on the other hand: Through the player's hand, became your L.O.V.E personified, is not only a demon by the looks of it, but was always evil. As seen by Asriel's dialogue during the end of the Pacifist Run if you visit him at the Flower Bed that Frisk wakes up: “ And then... When we got to the village... They were the one who... Wanted to use our full power... I was the one who resisted. ” This is more insight that Chara has no remorse and only hatred. Not only can't Omori take advantage of that because he's not Chara's hatred, only Sunny's Guilt, but he will Succumb because Chara kills the player by the end of the genocide run, and even resets/erases the world of Undertale via game files, and rebuilds it because YOU sold YOUR soul. Chara even calls you a Psychopath if you do the Genocide run many times, it shows that Chara is controlled, it feels no remorse, but even after all they do, You, the Player, is still a bigger monster than Chara itself acknowledges. Chara kills the player, Omori "kills" (more so Sunny incentives to kill himself) a character. These are the differences none of you are getting, this fight is not even close. And I'm not even mentioning the gameplay aspect of Chara being able to do infinite numbers of "999999999" damage. Omori is losing no concept of Diff, not even being in the Headspace, Dreamworld nor Blackspace would help. Some people are even saying Omori is Universal.

[@_Reginaaa]

Fax, fax, And FAX.

[@pikafanone]

This argument is flawed in the purpose of the whole point of the fight. Omori can actually indeed effect Chara via manipulation and world manipulation because the fight needs to take place in Sunny’s head as Omori can only exist in Sunny’s head so your argument of Omori not effecting Chara is flawed because outside of Sunny’s head would just be Sunny not Omori. Omori has feats of erasing and recreating the world which is proven in the Hikkiomori route of Omori which is a feat above Chara who can only destroy a timeline which is a universe, Omori is multiverse level of power because it’s a entire multiverse in Sunny’s head. And Chara has not erased the player, not sure where you got that proof as it’s obvious the player still exists in the black void at the end of genocide route of Undertale, there’s just nothing left so they can’t do anything. The Omori cannot succumb argument is not flawed because we are comparing Red Hands Omori who cannot die, Chara can die, they have before which is why they are a ghost, saving and resetting will not stop the fact they will continue to die to Omori because Chara cannot do any damage to someone who cannot die in the first place. And he has no fight feats? Have you not seen his skills and abilities in Omori because it’s a RPG, no shit he can fight. He fights Sunny at the end of the game. And he has the manipulation feat to make someone end their own life shown in the bad ending of Omori which is a canonical feat because all the Omori endings are canon confirmed by Omocat on Twitter or X. Now when you’re explaining Chara, you are right, they are technically love personified but they aren’t as evil with no emotions as you think. Did you forget Chara had to have a reason to fall into the underground was to end their own life? And Chara hasn’t killed the player? They still exist in the void at the end of undertale? They don’t kill the player they simply erased the entire timeline. And Chara didn’t rebuild the whole timeline, they reset it which is different from rebuilding it like Omoris feats of completely recreating the multiverse in Sunny’s head. And this was already a ability Frisks soul had which is why you give it to Chara they reset the timeline using the same soul with the same abilities. Your entire argument is based off Chara killing the player when that doesn’t actually happen and ignoring Omori’s feats all together because he’s only something made for Sunny which may be true in the game canon but based on a fight against Omori and Chara, something made to have them both against each other no matter what at full strength it’s obvious Omori wins. And Omori can win through manipulation to make Chara end their own life because guess what, Chara tried to do at the beginning intro of Undertale, so Omori would effectively make Chara give up because Determination won’t save them because that’s Frisk’s feat not Chara’s they’ve never survived via determination, that was Frisk. TLDR: Your argument is flawed, Omori wins because all you’re saying is Chara killed the player when it never happens in game and bring up poor arguments to devalue Omori’s feats. Please play Omori or watch it completely before commenting why they can’t beat Chara I am begging.

[@Tailsftn]

​@@pikafanoneong bro

[@LocalLightskin]

wait doesnt that give him abstract existence

[@CynTheSilliMurderDrone]

This doesn't include Sunny but Omori itself being alone without sunny makes him immortal because suicide don't effect to Omori but Chara do

[@H3LL0FR1END5]

*W Edit, this is something I did not expect.* 🗿🔥

[@beryreby6517]

A max level omori could 1 hit chara, considering both of them doesn't die it's just the matter of who will gives up first. The question here who'll dies first? Here's how i see the scenario. Omori has more hax he could first use his Red Hands to capture chara, technically we all know chara would speedblitz and dodge his Red Hands, but chara can't attack him unless chara gets close to him so chara will try to get close to him by dodging and slicing up the red hands when chara gets close, Omori will parry chara's attack with the "Red Knife", now that's an disadvantage for chara to get close on Omori's range, now that once chara's captured by the Red Hands, Omori could just slash her with the "Red Knife".

[@Almost_PerfectCell]

WE GON MEAT RIDE WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@Sosa-again]

I laugh so hard, help.

[@InsomniacOnMeth]

where can i find the Omori clips?

[@PogaltaEditz]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4jdZ2V6oNabaaM

[@InsomniacOnMeth]

thanks

[@higashikata_gappy]

Chara literally breaks the fourth wall, they win easily, even if Omori has some vantages they win, I mean, they can say "no, I'm too tired to fight" and close the game

[@sans101]

Chara has no pronouns Chara is a she.😅 But I agree with you tho👍

[@Salibascored]

Omori is Immortal and has Influenced Things outside his Dimension. A charectar in someone’s mind influences the real World

[@frogchamp.4697]

it also kind of depends on where they're fighting. for example, if they're fighting in headspace, omori can literally manipulate reality. the only way he can be defeated is if you're sunny, since he literally lives in sunny's mind. on the other hand, chara can literally reset time, so it's kind of a draw.

[@TheG-qt4bt]

did bro forget that chara can just reset the whole timeline not only that but she can also come back even after dying

[@axiomjoever]

Literally Omori's feats

[@sillysillypaper]

@@axiomjoever Fax

[@Bobboi]

Omori destroys Chara can't come back if its not her universe, her determination is simply not enough in other universes Plus that doesn't even matter cause all omori needs to do is touch that child with them hands Chara's scaling is so whack honestly

[@Jiji-ut9lg]

Yes but what if the is in the real world ? I mean Omori it's not even real . But I agree with you

[@Bobboi]

@@Jiji-ut9lg Neither of them exist in the real world

[@ulektz1252]

​@@Jiji-ut9lgexactly

[@gok5471]

@@Jiji-ut9lgTHEY dont have enough money to the real world or husker university

[@coreclams40312]

To people who say chara will just come back They cannot fix emotional damage💀💀

[@miyaobviouslyishere]

Also how can chara come back? Determination? That wasn't Chara's determination that was frisk (or the player). Chara is literally dead, the fight is over 💀😭

[@charadreamer6704]

​@@miyaobviouslyisherechara soul was also determination, this video is base on what if they both are alive and real with full power

[@unpatohespecial2355]

Omori ni siquiera llega a la escala universal de Chara, el tipo vive en un espacio especial en la cabeza de sunny y en su enfrentamiento ni siquiera el whitespace o el blackspace realmente se vieron afectados, esta pelea la gana Chara con dificultad baja, da igual si Omori se niega a morir a Chara le bastaria matar a sunny para borrar ambos espacios incluyendo a Omori, aparte veo muy dificil que Chara enfrente a alguien que vive en la mente de una persona.

[@josetarin8824]

I can debunk chara to country level and i can scale Omori to low complex multiversal 😀

[@5e12laukaho8]

Bro thinks he’s Edgar 🤣

[@Pasidal]

Chara (Winner): +Faster +More Equipments +Save and Load -Not Durable -Weapon Deals Less Damage +Can Restart if they get BFR'd =Can Comeback whenever they want Omori (Loser): +More Durable -Not as Fast +Weapon Deals More Damage +More Hax -is Protective -Chara's Save And Load Makes Them Hard To Kill =Can Comeback whenever he wants

[@thuythuy8521]

Hey no chara win

[@thuythuy8521]

Omori wiki power To winning

[@Salibascored]

Chara takes 5 seconds to do their 99999 damage attack which is pretty slow can’t lie. Plus Omori has emotional manipulation which would be pretty easy on Chara since they have canonically Committed Suicide, Shown to be suicidal 2 times. And heavily hinted Self Harm

[@miyaobviouslyishere]

Kel soloes with orange joe >>>>

[@Pasidal]

@@miyaobviouslyishere 💀

[@lxrnq]

W edit but chara negs

[@PogaltaEditz]

Fair

[@sans101]

Ya she can come back like springtrap😅

[@MrMiloBoy64]

​@@sans101"Omori did not succumb"

[@sans101]

@@MrMiloBoy64 same with omori too

[@JamesCruz-dl6og]

So let's see Chara is fast, they are also strong in lv 20 and they keep coming back with resets and loads, they also have high defense just by a single heart locket, have good battle iq. Omori is strong, he is basically imortal and he keeps coming back everytime, he have good defense but have no agility because he just takes it, he have high BIQ because he was literally in a RPG where you need to strategies, and he also have good abilities. In comparison chara wins. Overall i think omori wins in a true fight because his hands are enough to stop them.

[@orrorsaness5942]

Yup 👍

[@ardievingwani3584]

Chara has never been level 20 she’s never killed anyone every thinks chara takes over frisk in genocide witch she doesn’t she just watches in the background as you kill monster because you bored for a different ending and at the end she is disgusted by you and at the end if you decide not to erase the world she kills you and if you do the world gets erased because yeah

[@sillysillypaper]

Bro's speakin fax

[@XeNonxyz]

They will ended up falling love - Some fangay

[@DraconicInsomniac9815]

This edit is godly!!!

[@BasilTeaLeaves]

Omori won't succumb and chara will just come back lol

[@Connor_Top_Lad]

I'd say this is a tie, because both are so powerful that they can't really beat each other Also the destruction this fight would cause would be insane

[@SavageTrex18]

Bro gave chara one point for durability when Omori can literally sad poem himself and stab and cannot SUCCUMB

[@mydadcanbeatupurdad]

Chara is a ghost... technically unkillable... they deserve durability lol

[@miyaobviouslyishere]

The fight is pretty pointless, chara is dead and can only go back up with frisk's determination, omori is pretty much just Sunny's alter ego, a personification of his guilt.

[@Clap185]

@@miyaobviouslyishere if they werent dead though, i think it would be a fair fight

[@miyaobviouslyishere]

@sepzgamin3518 you are correct lmao

[@Clap185]

@sepzgamin3518 yes, and i think the fight would be equal/tie if they both fight

[@neofortrix6094]

My God, I never imagined seeing something like this, they are so similar, but I never thought of researching about

[@AlanSchwinn-505-]

I know both of them are extremely powerful but i give this a tie since they can't die no matter how many times you kill them

[@Sunny_omor533]

Guy just started a war between my past favorite fandom (undertale) and mine now favorite fandom!!

[@Jackatjack-3-I-Think]

Honestly it depends how chara does this fight, if chara just tries to endless brute force by attacking it is a draw because "OMORI will not succumb", HOWEVER if chara tries to ACT, I think that chara could win (like how sunny beat omori)

[@denymuiambo6781]

chara gangsta till the player turn on the lore accurate mode

[@amlopresidente6357]

WHAT TAKES PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND LEVEL 20 IS FRISK, CHARA IS EASILY WAY STRONGER, chara no diffs omori, omori is literally confined within sunny's dream, chara is multiversal, she no diffs

[@MaxsDomain65]

Damn this isn’t even fair OMORI can just push her down the stairs-

[@MaxsDomain65]

@sepzgamin3518 LOL

[@goofierdude]

Meanwile sunny just chilling in bed while these guys have a "fierce" clash

[@egocin193]

yes yes soo right. a ghost vs depression

[@bombazat4532]

Chara canonically destroyed a universe and the time line and if we are playing by Undertale rules its turn based so chara gets hit pnce and destroys the time line

[@comealongwithangello6653]

Chara can also Reset and Reload timelines I think it be a fair fight but if you remove those abilities then Omori could mainly win the fight with red hands and Chara would still lose with LV20 but if it is the glitchtale AU then what could happen is that with the 7 human souls Chara could have a more powerful chance thx to the souls so if it’s only LV20 without anything else yes Omori would win but if Chara has 7 of the human souls Chara would win

[@UnripeOrange]

Theory (shortened. Actual theory after shortened): Chara has capabilities and abilities beyond Omori's power and she could struggle at first but then be victorious. Actual theory yaasss: Chara can seem weak as she is smaller in size and (maybe???) Age, but like i said, she is capable of doing the unthinkable. She was able to even kill not only frisk, the main character, and also the player. Also she can save mid fight when both of them are out of breath, then die intentionally and load with replenished HP and stamina. She also has a shit lot of DETERMINATION. She could also slice his red hands with a single middle hit. She also can dodge his attacks easily (if she has the attack box). That was my theory and goodbye (Also don't "correct" me about anything like omori being strongr and abt typos. This was a theory only.)

[@axiomjoever]

Cool theory, but It's possible for Omori to do beyond that via reality warping

[@The_Hikikomori]

Assuming it's Omori fp, he negs if he has all the power of headspace, because nothing can beat Omori in headspace apart from Sunny

[@nurayksakol8566]

Level 100 chara can survive a solar system

[@sillysillypaper]

There is no such thing as LV 100 Chara, the only max in LV20

[@anneraphaelleeenzo3254]

If chara is level 20 murderering 109 mosnters.... i am level 40-