Charging Parents For Children's Crimes Is The New Tactic Of The Left... This Could Go Bad FAST...

Charging Parents For Children's Crimes Is The New Tactic Of The Left... This Could Go Bad FAST... In today's episode, we dive into the newest tactic of the left. They're looking to charge parents for the crimes of their children. Whether you agree or disagree, they are going full steam ahead...
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[@andyforrest7548]

Strange how the FBI was involved in both instances!!!

[@rogerstoney2203]

Curious isn't? It does raise a multitude of questions.

[@jamie5388]

Yeah, looks a lot like all these school issues are intentionally propagated by the three letter enemies with tools like Mk U! Funny how the swat sniper at Uvalde watches the kid cross the field on his scope after hearing what the kid did to his grandmother yet doesn't take the shot to save 19 children and 2 teachers. POLICE JUST FOLLOW ORDERS EXACTLY LIKE A MILITARY FORCE INFILTRATING A FOREIGN NATION! Naaa, there couldn't be a motive behind training police with that mindset... And Trump cant assure them enough...

[@patrickmchargue7122]

Come to think of it, isn't everyone on the FBI's radar now?

[@earlahmer5528]

The police n FBI visited the residence in regards to the minor. That should have been a serious red flag for the father and his actions only reflect negativity upon him.

[@micwell2247]

they are more then questionable ...

[@jamesvatter5729]

The fact he was supposedly "mentally disturbed" and had the incident from May 2023, yet the Dad gifted the rifle is going to be very ugly for that father.

[@douglashewitt5064]

This is a case of unspanked parents.

[@grouchyoleguy]

Dad definitely has to be held responsible for giving him the AR but NOT for what he did with it

[@d.h.jefferies2191]

​@@grouchyoleguyreally?......

[@d.h.jefferies2191]

​@@grouchyoleguywhat if the kid had gotten a pellet gun??....

[@mattm402]

@@grouchyoleguy The kid is 14. How is the father not responsible?

[@michaelkutchara8816]

The school in Georgia knew 30 minutes in advance and took no necessary precaution. So who wants to press charges against them?

[@seth7745]

So basically when it comes to gender bender ideology parents have no say over their kids, but if their kids commit a crime, parents are responsible. Got it.

[@jimevans4755]

Best comment yet. Does make one think. Well..... at least those who are still able to think for themselves.

[@johnevans1969]

Spot on

[@d.h.jefferies2191]

No you don't.....

[@steveb6103]

The schools can indoctrinate the kids to be trans. But you can't tell them the truth!

[@DirkaDirka-n9j]

There are more rule changes and exceptions to come, as it is convenient to the left and their media shills. Of course, this new “common sense” rule will never be applied to gang violence.

[@jody8Tm]

I am not against this because it will eventually get to a parents defense "How can I properly monitor, secure, and mentor my child if I am not even allowed to know when they are in crisis, suffering mental and emotional turmoil, or engaging in risky behaviors and being supported by the school while purposely leaving me in the dark. how can i be responsible when they get to know more than I do? and then pose homeschool kids don't seem to have this problem.

[@jessebell1930]

If the US is anything like Australia in this regard, parents are handcuffed in parenting, child services have more power than cops do, and children are taught in school that they can donwhatever they want. And so youth crime has gone through the roof. There is more to it i.e. broken homes etc. However once your kid calls the authorities on you, or they are in trouble with the law, what you are allowed to do in order to correct their behaviour is not only limited....it is completely stripped. Ground them? "Abuse". Yell at them? "Abuse". Spank them? "Abuse". Loss of piveleges? "Abuse". You get your kids taken. Take the handcuffs off of parents and much of this goes away.

[@ranger178]

yes, the government is guilty of negligence they took authority of parents away and FBI knew kid was a danger but they did nothing so FBI should be arrested.

[@scottcooper4391]

There is a BIG difference between "Disciplining your child" and "Abusing your child" - and the authorities (especially CPS) should be aware and responsible for this.

[@steveg2406]

​@@scottcooper4391Read US Safer Communities Act (Law) and related Court Case Law. Very much like they have in Australia and England both.

[@jessebell1930]

@@scottcooper4391 agreed. There is a difference. However DOCS (department of child services) is filled to the gills with childless, feminazi lesbians, and childless soy boys. They view the world through a "progressive" lens to the point that "micro-aggressions" can get your kids taken from you. Whatever the hell they are...

[@jessebell1930]

@@steveg2406 that's an ominous name for a piece of legislation mate. Sounds like the "safe schools" bullshit in Australia.

[@independentopinion1469]

How about making the FBI and the local police departments responsible for the failure to apprehend the teenager for a psychological evaluation.

[@col.cottonhill6655]

How about when they're directly involved? They frequently are

[@JohnShea-d2x]

What should parents do about a chronically incorrigible insubordinate dangerous child? The state has hampered their ability to discipline their child. The state provides no effective assistance. If the parents will be held responsible for such a child while having no means for correction, should that child be cast out and told to become a ward of the state before he destroys the family? There may be siblings who will suffer if their parents are brought down by the justice system because of the wayward child. The state will never be held responsible for their bad parenting, or for failing to provide effective intercession when the biological parents have pled for help to no avail before a disaster.

[@grendal113]

Forth trimester abortion

[@patriotcountry4716]

And neither will black parents ever be held accountable obviously

[@eagleeye761]

Spare the rod... spoil the child... don't forget beligerant...

[@j.l.8000]

Not only does the State hamper the ability to discipline, they and their actors actively undermine any authority of the parent, and fill kids heads with their Rights but neglect responsibility and duty.

[@harryballs333]

U don't give him a gun underage

[@timmiller2943]

I wonder why that all citizens are targets, but yet the government can just do whatever and nothing happens???

[@DavidJongibo]

Do u really think government is going to police government? If u do, ur in denial

[@Akuma-jx8dr]

Back when parents were held accountable, even the worst parents made their children behave because it came back on them.

[@DonnaHarris-r2i]

this father knew his son already had the f b eye at their home already in 2023 over the said boy threatening school before and still bought him this gun that same 23 Christmas . So I would think that has Alot to do with this dad being so held....just guessing tho'...and yep! even the services knew boys threats!.... there's just so much violence going on It's Just Crazy! Stay Safe!

[@beetle442002]

"Back in the day" parents were "allowed" to be parents and discipline kids. Parents were the authority over kids and now parents aren't allowed to know what is happening in schools, school hide stuff from parents and even get medical and health treatments for kids while keeping it from parents. But as long as control is allowed to be consolidated to a single group that group is going to push their ideas and agendas and thats part of the problem. There is no balance, there is no diversity of ideas(I don't mean anything about color of skin green blue, pink, purple or any other). Say parenting styles for instance... if one group was allowed to say THIS is the right way to raise kids and anyone who doesn't do it this way is wrong and neglecting their kids, this will cause major problems because kids are each different and not one style can be used for every child by every person. A small 100lb mom yelling at a teenager is going to be significantly different than a 200lb 6'5" body builder yelling at the same kid, vastly different effects. Some kids if you tell them they messed up and your disappointed, that will crush them, and others need physical correction. I am not talking about beating kids. You can swat a kids hand or bottom without beating the snot out or them. Unfortunately more and more the "government" seems to be involved in what used to be family matters. Also going along with that the growing message is that family doesn't matter. Schooling used to be ran by the local district then it became the regional department, then a state board of education, now there's a national board of education. Stuff gets pushed down from the top now and schools are penalized for stepping out of line. Exactly the opposite of the way the country was meant to be when it was founded.

[@patriotcountry4716]

When are all those black parents going to be arrested is what I want to know! Or is it just going to continue to be White parents only

[@grouchyoleguy]

​@@beetle442002very well said

[@delball6916]

You can't discipline your kids anymore though

[@matthewgaviola8885]

Does this mean we can put Joe away for Hunter lying in his gun application???

[@brycelindley5210]

Not underage. Hunter's a 40+ year old adult.

[@matthewgaviola8885]

@@brycelindley5210 I don’t think the Dems will mind age if this is the tactic they want to push. When it comes to certain issues, such as the diminishing of the 2A, they prefer to deal in absolutes and make some examples. Obviously they won’t pursue Joe because he’s not the kind of victim they want.

[@WildCardInside63]

😂 priceless 😂

[@matthewgaviola8885]

@@brycelindley5210 With all the trouble he’s been getting into, he might as well a playboy in his late teens-20s. He definitely has about as much sense as one

[@randallreese7118]

Hunter and daddy belong in gitmo

[@grendal113]

Everyone calling to charge parents haven't been a step parent with horrible kids.

[@garettmatheis933]

Maybe don't give horrible kids access to guns they can't buy on their own? Once they are 18 and can buy it themselves then it's on them.

[@tomcruse5731]

Why is everyone crying about not being able to raise my kid, don't want to spend time, then don't have kids.

[@louispawloski9123]

Safe storage is an excuse for a gun registry which is an excuse for confiscation. This is an excuse to misrepresent facts to attack gun owners

[@Godwins47]

And WE KNOW WHY!

[@col.cottonhill6655]

Will they arrest parents who dont secure their kitchen knives when their child stabs someone at school?

[@justindurfee9375]

And facts don't matter because they don't give a crap. We're in the era of feelings don't care about your facts, and these people would rather the facts they like be the facts that matter.

[@DirkaDirka-n9j]

Exactly. One begets another

[@johnpollard4158]

This won't help with inner city crime. Even the FBI couldn't find those dads.

[@keithward350]

Parents/guardians are legally responsible for their minors.

[@jeoffreylocke3121]

No not entirely. When I was young I committed petty theft and my parents were not charged. Regardless of the crime the government can't pick and choose what crimes they want to extend charges for.

[@bobmorgan1575]

@@jeoffreylocke3121 They do it all the time. And yes, parents can be held legally responsible for the actions of their minor children. In fact it used to be pretty normal for them to be charged as an accessory to a crime that their child committed, even petty theft. Most of the time the charges got dropped after six months if the kid behaved and stayed out of trouble.

[@PrinnyKnight]

​@@jeoffreylocke3121They didn't get charged because your parents probably didn't buy you burglary tools.

[@Usmc72240]

@@PrinnyKnightback in the day the kids was. Harvard with the crime not parents. It doesn’t help that parents don’t watch their children anymore. Everything is so expensive that both parents have to work to try and make ends meet and pay the bills. Then there is other parents that just don’t want to do anything but let the kids just run and do what ever they want.

[@patriotcountry4716]

So when are all those thousands of black parents going to be arrested? Or are they just going to continue arresting White parents ONLY

[@patrickgiroux7596]

I just don't get it. None of it makes sense. I was raised in a different era. We were taught to respect firearms. But then again we had a father and a mother who loved us enough to teach us not to point any gun at any person. Kinda makes sense. This crap is the Twilight Zone.

[@patrickmchargue7122]

'It takes a village' part 2. Making everyone responsible for anything bad that happens - all while releasing criminals with no bail.

[@Ricky043]

Make it make sense!

[@col.cottonhill6655]

Remember when the teacher eould punish everyone because one student pissed her off?

[@herrent]

Importing criminals by the millions

[@darkgardener9577]

Collectivism. It's the Democrat way.

[@maynardcarmer3148]

@col.cottonhill6655 That was SOP in boot camp, too. One guy screws up, and everyone pays.

[@chaosad9754]

If the dad gave his son a car and he killed someone while driving, would his dad still be charged with murder? Nope, it's only a war against guns and freedom.

[@kubikariYOU]

So this would stop children from murdering their parents. All they have to do is commit any crime and the parents would go to jail. Following this mentality, if a politician commits a crime, people that voted for the politician should serve the prison time, not the criminal.

[@ncuellar1966]

So if a gang banger breaks the law or takes a life with a stolen gun are they going to blame the owner who reported the gun stolen. 🤔🤨🙄😮‍💨

[@fredjarosh3056]

Well, they’ll have to charge thousands of parents in Chicago for their kids crimes

[@nullface_YT]

"Chicago" and "Parents". I've never seen those words in the same sentence before. 🤔

[@mmgee]

Maybe the FBI should be prosecuted when they screw up?

[@timcarroll6795]

I think a lot of you are missing something really important. The father WEEPED, BROKEN MAN WEEPING, WEEPED through the entire preliminary hearing, out of obvious remorse, and mistake. That established, let's just be objective... It's hard for a parent to completely depart from the fog of bias when it comes to their own children, AND, if the law enforcement came, interviewed him, and deemed him NOTE a credible enough threat to intervene further, MAYBE... just maybe, the father thought that, his son wasn't going to shoot up a school. I know it sounds silly, but the point is, it's a solid defense for buying the kid the weapon. The Law enforcement didn't believe he was a serious threat, so then why is the father being held legally responsible for purchasing the weapon? Politics, Gun Control, and Narrative, that is why. Purely political, there is no other reason to charge the man. Further to that, the mother called the school in an emergency, feverishly trying to warn them, and the SCHOOL fucked up and went looking for the WRONG KID, and missed the one with the fucking gun. So there were a series of failures, and the father is just one very small part, that has VERY solid reasoning as to why he MIGHT have felt it was okay to purchase that gun... .SOLID defense to prosecution. He had no motive, no intent, and no direct involvement in the crime. That would be like a father buying a car for his 16 year old son, who had several traffic tickets before, and the kid goes out and kills someone with the car..... Never, not once in teh history of ever, has anyone been charged for something like that, the similarities are nearly identical in weight, judicially. So tell me again, why the father is being charged, unless they can prove motive, and intent. Otherwise, it's no different.

[@JES2691]

You are spot on sir. If he has a good lawyer he should get off or at the least just fined.

[@randallreese7118]

U are correct sir

[@Steve-xm3mv]

In California, my 17 yo stepson, purchased a pistol from a thug, and committed suicide with it. It was well know by his group of friends where he got the firearm and the police interviewed said thug. He admitted to selling him the pistol, yet NO charges against him. They don’t care about a child dying, it’s just a an excuse to take all guns.

[@scottshort3718]

If they’re successful in making the parents accountable, it will lead to making gun shops and manufacturers accountable. It’s a straight line, and I’m certain it will be tried.

[@KP-Pro2A]

If the government can charge parents for the actions of the child because the parent did nothing to prevent it, why can’t we the people Sue Law enforcement when they take the same lack of action.

[@alansloan7784]

The same question applies regarding crooked LEOs, as well as crooked judges.

[@MaxWray111]

Given the facts of this case, the father should never have given him a gun. Dad is screwed. But at 67, no one is going to tell me how to keep my property in my house.

[@TedHallII]

This is Old School, parents have always been legally responsible for the acts of their children.

[@patriotcountry4716]

So how many black parents have been arrested?

[@j.l.8000]

Financially, yes , criminally no.

[@jimwright8379]

There is no way this can be constitutionally legal.

[@Godwins47]

Do you think they fnnn care???? They will always do whatever the fuck they want, cause they CAN!!!!

[@patriotcountry4716]

Exactly! Arresting White parents for what their child does while thousands of black parents walk free while their child is out there murdering innocent people, innocent White people

[@choppsticc]

@@Godwins47they only can cause now most ppl are too soft to stop em

[@mattm402]

where in the constitution does it protect parents from the actions of the minor children? I mean who buys a gun, ANY gun, for their child after the police show up over concern about threats to shoot up the school?

[@tomcruse5731]

​@@mattm402 a stupid parent.

[@Whitehorze]

If they can charge parents, then we can charge JUDGES for the crimes of violent criminals they allow back on the street.

[@alansloan7784]

Charging judges for allowing violent criminals to go unpunished is an idea long overdue to put into practice. Question: who will be the first law-abiding citizen to hold such crooked judges accountable for their crimes?

[@josephahner3031]

The charge of murder is inappropriate. In this particular case the father is absolutely guilty of being an Accessory.

[@andyforrest7548]

What about the Law Enforcement personnel that knew the history of this family and did NOTHING!!!?????

[@astroboy5137]

Until the shooting, nothing the kid did was illegal. I’m against red flag laws, as you may be also. But in this case you expect the cops to kick in the door & haul the kid off for something they heard?

[@johnemge4059]

I just watched a video of the woman who's in charge of this crap with the FBI two days ago and she explained that they did talk to him and his parents but a year ago because they saw that he said he was going to shoot up a school and they investigated his website and friends and they knew about it but they just don't have the manpower to continue following these people everyday as she quoted. But yes they did know about the last two shooters which is absolutely disgusting it's not like there's a hundred thousand out there at every turn if they could put 15 useless guys on top of cameltoe watching her walk around they could at least put one on a potential mental person of interest.

[@Usmc72240]

@@astroboy5137red flag laws doesn’t pertain to him. He’s a minor.

[@jason60chev]

@@Usmc72240 Red Flags are stupid. Everyone thinks that just because guns are taken away, that the "Dangerous" person is now incapable of being a danger. The PERSON is dangerous, yet they leave them in their homes, NO Counseling, with cars, blunt garden implements and tools, gasoline/matches, knives and if they were really resourceful, the ability to just go down into the hood and get a gun. Oh....and how fast would their info be inputted into the NICS system? They could probably go down and buy another gun at the shop, that same afternoon.

[@jeepster0934]

I went to my local police station to report a possible crime [possible drug deal going down] and was told I could not report it at the police station. I was told I had to call it in. GOVERNMENT IS BROKEN.

[@zippo5052]

The murders at the Apalachee High School were not a failure of gun controls laws, or an insufficient quantity of gun controls laws, or weak gun controls laws. The murders at the Apalachee High School were due to the failures of the killer’s father, the school staff, the local police, and the FBI, who were all aware of the killer’s mental condition, and his prior threats to “shoot up the school“. Colt Gray’s mother called, and warned, Apalachee High School 30 minutes before the attack, but the school did not implement their lockdown protocols.

[@skydiver6711]

Once again, charging everything and everyone except the criminal.

[@patriotcountry4716]

NO, just White Americans

[@d.h.jefferies2191]

Ummm......he was charged. Derp

[@seth7745]

The enforcement will be very selective. For example I highly doubt they will crack down on parents letting their kids associate with gangs on the streets of Chicago.

[@matterofrights2344]

Charging parents for the crimes of their children is not a new thing. Charging the victim of crime for the actions of criminals, is a new thing and totally invalid.

[@edwardlind841]

As a parent, I understand my responsibility in that. I've been told, by law enforcement that I could be held responsible for the actions of my child, depending on the severity of the crime. The one thing I could count on is that my kids grew up with guns, understood that they weren't a "go to" to settle an issue. When they had problems, they brought them to my attention. I helped them deal with these issues as best I could. No parent is perfect, but we try to do the right thing by our kids. Did this dad make a mistake, possibility. Did the kid go off on his own and screw up, most definitely. As far as the dad being charged, I don't believe he should've been. Then again, it's the liberal/socialist justice system we live under... Just a thought

[@Kane6676]

You will not see parents of gangbangers charged with anything. Just so you know

[@RBAILEY57]

It's a flagrant violation of Anglo-Saxon legal principles.

[@kentbooth2270]

And where did you get your law degree?

[@Michael-ve2fq]

If the FBI and local police where called to this kids house and did nothing then why are they not being charged?

[@jamesmcrae5327]

It is on the criminal. Not the parents. Unless they are criminals involved actively.

[@RandyCampbell-fk3pf]

This will be another example of selective enforcement. You won't see the single mother of gangbangers being arrested. Only the kulaks had to obey Soviet laws. "For my friends everything; for my enemies, the law"

[@robertrickett7816]

When I was young, parents were investigated if their kids got arrested, and sometimes they were held responsible for not being the parental guide they should have been. Parents of a young kid like the Georgia shooter should be held to account, when it comes to raising their kids. Did they do something to cause this kid to go off the rails? Today the teachers want to control our kids, why aren't the teachers being held responsible? They think they know best, so maybe we need to hold them for questioning, and find out what they did to send this kid off the rails.

[@curtiswiley1687]

So if a 16-18 year old kills someone in a car accident, do we charge both parents for vehicular man slaughter?? If a kid uses a family owned gun to commit suicide do the parents get charged ? I raised 3 teenagers and it is not easy, every case is different and should be viewed with a unique lens.

[@McgSpook]

if your underage kid told you they were gonna burn down the neighbors house, and you then give them a can of gas and matches.... On a side note, as a gun owner, ive always believed that securing that firearm against improper use was my responsibility. The kid didnt steal it, he was given it. and it wasnt secured afterward.

[@MASTER3RDEYE]

Parents should be held accountable for their minor children’s actions.

[@No1Business-u4y]

Its absolutely unconditional and a shameful act. You don't see them going after the parents of the Chicago gang bangers

[@markbarnaart2381]

Great point !

[@xx-qv9tp]

If they want to play this game, then they’re open to all charges too. The slippery slope is slippery for EVERYONE, not just US

[@stg4478]

so when do they go after under age gang members parents?

[@kentbooth2270]

FJB should be held accountable for hunter lying on a firearm form

[@pkerit308]

By the time I was 14, I was trusted and allowed to take the rifle anywhere on the property. I was instructed on gun safety starting at age 6

[@robertrogers8221]

IF the parents are involved or responsible, then YES, they need to be charged and punished. Adam Lanza's mother KNEW that he had issues. Even his dad warned people how she was raising him. Adam Lanza was a "Prohibited Person" as per the Gun Control Act of 1968, yet she attempted to BOND with him over guns. He broke into her safe and killed her FIRST before going to the school. Ethan Crumbly's parents were aware that there were issues with him and there were numerous warnings, yet they refused to take action with him, and he ended up shooting several people in his school. The FBI was warned about Colt Gray and had local LAW ENFORCEMENT visit the father and son to question them about the then 13-year-old making threats, which they both denied. AFTER this interaction with law enforcement the father BUYS A GUN for his son who then shoots people at his school. The 6-year-old boy in Virginia who shot his teacher (2023). His mother was charged with MULTIPLE felonies for her actions that led up to the shooting. There is a CLEAR lack of logic or rationale for these parents to place their troubled children with access to any kind of weapon. They MUST be punished for what they ALLOWED to happen. Being an irresponsible parent is still wrong and dangerous. I personally believe that Ethan Crumbly; Colt Gray; and the 6-year-old Virginia boy should ALL face the DEATH PENALTY. I have done TWO 12-month tours in Iraq and three months in Afghanistan. I have handled fresh kills and decomposing corpses. I WILLINGLY went into combat zones knowing that I could be killed or injured. I believe that ANOYNE who wants to step up to the plate and conduct human kills, then you must face the DEATH PENALTY. I do not care what the person's age is. I spent 20 years Active-Duty United States Army-Infantry. You can hate me for my views. I do not care. I will not hesitate exchange lead with those who wish me harm.

[@jamesmitchell6619]

Are the prosecutors going to charge parents of gang bangers who ate brandishing illegally modified handguns charge them as well or no one at ALL

[@ronaldmatejowskyjr7096]

If the father is help accountable for his son’s actions, shouldn’t the FBI and local police department be held equally accountable?

[@CatmandoTNR]

When parents buy guns for psychopaths and don't closely supervise and retain control of the tool they are guilty.

[@markgemmill1825]

Go to jail for disciplining your kids. Go to jail for not disciplining your kids ???? Insanity !!!

[@jamescraig4719]

Trust me i am as 2A as it gets, BUT if you give your minor child access to a gun you should be accountable

[@rickyrygg7188]

Oh hell no

[@Minuteman4Jesus]

I've been warning about this for 30 years. Here we are!

[@emandejnozka1369]

Hysteria Legislation is never good.

[@williamwhite1982]

I wish that politicians could be held accountable for their crimes, actual crimes, not trumped up charges.

[@jeffmonroe2830]

So do we hold parents accountable if their kid drinks and drive, or is involved in a race, or fighting. There needs to be common sense. There are failures in this case. The father made a grievous error.

[@chlebowg]

So when are they going after the parents in the Dem cities????

[@cheekibreeki921]

They won't cause they're Black.

[@trevornetlink4715]

Its going to get bad fast when they only start charging parents with a lot of money and a lot to lose, and not charging parents who are not "privileged". There is way more money in that strategy.

[@Firedrake1313]

This a gross failure of our current mental health system more than anything else.

[@dannyhonn973]

Theyre forgetting the kids who teased, harassed and bullied colt gray until he lashed out. Theyre just as responsible. You ought to listen to how 10 to 14 yo trash talk each other, then want to beat each others heads in. Its disgusting, and goes back to parents and grandparents who do nothing about it. Usually because the state and child welfare say you cant really punish for it. So, STATE BLAME YOURSELF

[@Youtubesucks565]

There is a New Mexico case where the fathers gun was taken by his son and they arrested the father who didn’t supply the gun to the child! The son took it and they claimed he didn’t safely store it!

[@DragonJohn]

You can get out of the "Gross Negligence" charge if you say you didn't intend for the firearm to be used in a crime. Worked for Hillary, got to work for everyone, right? sarcasm

[@AkPolarbear4570]

They will use this as another means of disarmament. It will not matter whether the parents are directly involved or have no involvement. You're a bad parent, guilty.

[@strat1960s]

Can someone explain to me how the parents are not responsible for their kids actions?? Being prior military, if my kids got into trouble on base I was standing on 1st Sgt's or Commander's carpet explaining my kids behavior. It was even stricter while stationed overseas. If my kids got into trouble at school, it was us, the parents, that were called to the school. Seems like the local/state governments gave the parents an out but taking away the parents ability to make decisions for their children and/or punish the kids as needed. The police charging the parents for the actions of their kids, in my mind, is how it should be and should serve as wake up call to folks popping out babies and not raising them to function effectively in society.

[@jamesshaw5590]

As long as they allow corporal punishment, so the children face a reaction to their action. There has got to be something the children don’t want to happen if they do wrong. If the government wants us to raise our children better, let us raise our children, and be involved in their decisions at school and home. A little fear goes a long way, and won’t lead to a spanking if the children respect what the parents say.

[@strat1960s]

@@jamesshaw5590 spot on!

[@stevejlarson]

As a parent, I would not allow my minor child to handle or have possession of it unless in my presence, even if I gave it to him as a gift. He would not legally be allowed anywhere to carry it or shoot it outside of an adult companion, not at the range, not hunting, nowhere. At home it would stay locked up by me, until and unless he had a legitimate reason to handle it. He would not have access to the safe, keep it in his room, or any access to it without my consent.

[@stanhutchins4365]

So, if someone breaks into your house or a friend or even a family member steals your firearm and uses it in a crime the lunatic government wants to charge you for the crime. This is insane

[@AniwayasSong]

If-only Govt. wasn't held accountable for ITS INCOMPETENCE. Imagine how America would be today, if that were enforced?!

[@philippicphilodox888]

In the STEM school shooting, the killers obtained their firearms by using an axe and a crowbar to break into a parent's gun safe. Would that parent now be legally culpable for simply having firearms in the same home as a troubled teen? The controllers might argue, "He should have moved his safe to a friend's home or put them in storage." Sure, except that Colorado has a Universal Bacground Check law, and leaving a safe full of guns with a friend would be an unlawfull transfer, a felony for multiple guns. And most public storage facilities expressly prohibit firearms, mainly because if the renter becomes delinquent in payments, the contents of the unit will be offered in a blind auction, no background check required. At the time of the Aurora Theater killings, Colorado was ranked 51st in the nation for mental health. At the time of the King Soopers massacre, ten years later, Colorado was STILL ranked 51st for mental health, and at the time of the STEM shooting, the state was ranked 48th for mental health treatment for children and adolescents. Yet the state ranked 1st for the best state economy. This points to wanton, intentional, and reckless neglect which rises to the level of willfull negligence. If parents tried to seek mental health treatment for their child, but found that affordable treatment options are nonexistent, would the state then be liable? Somehow, I doubt it.

[@jasonvoorheis1984]

When we reach the point of taxation without representation, then what is the next step? We the people, have no representation in Congress, in the judicial system, and are victimized daily by the ruling elite.

[@DemocratsRPedos]

If your kid is threatening people don’t buy them a firearm. If you have kids and guns, keep them both under lock and key.

[@randallreese7118]

As a parent we are responsible for our children till the age of 17

[@astarothk2273]

its not about charging parents, its about finding ways to make all citizens criminals to remove their rights, while ensuring young people dont know they have rights, and ensuring the replacement population will never have rights

[@tomygun1585]

As a rule I agree. The recent shooting Barrow County is an exception. The father KNEW this child was mentally unstable. The FBI had already been to visit them a year earlier and the father bought him a rifle anyway.

[@kmtabq617]

I had a stepson and a grandson with severe anger issues. We ensured that they didn't have access to our firearms. We considered that a responsible approach to addressing a potential problem. However, safe storage laws are an incredibly stupid approach if no threat has been identified.

[@spuds416]

KNOWINGLY is the KEY Word

[@naimreed8247]

Discipline the child CPS comes, left undisciplined, shootings happen, you get charged?

[@defenestrationfan]

In this case I think it was fully warranted - the father was criminally negligent letting his disturbed son have access or any involvement with firearms. Common sense people!

[@wizardofahhhs759]

If they're gonna start charging parents it should only be done on a case by case basis.

[@tc4302]

Its weird how the government and teachers unions have removed all parental rights but want the parent to be responsible for everything the child does.

[@sherriew3448]

These are the same people that do not want parents to be able to discipline their children or be in charge of their education. Letting schools transition kids with parent knowledge.

[@clydesmith5530]

So are they going to start charging Parents of Gang members for their children shooting?

[@DonWill-rk4xn]

All government laws are created and applied arbitrarily without a single exception. Let’s go voluntary.

[@robertsahli9998]

Spot on Brayden

[@McgSpook]

Lots of these getting posted. Here's my take. As a gun owner and father, I've always believed that it was my responsibility to secure my firearms from improper use. That included my own children and their friends. In this scenario the father was warned about his son, he knew he was getting bullied at school. And he then gave him a firearm and did not secure it. It wasn't a theft, he was forewarned. Of course he's partially responsible. Thats negligent to the point of criminality. No different then if say your neighbors told you that your son said he was gonna burn down their house, and then for christmas you get him gasoline and matches. Or you letting your kid throw a party, providing alcohol to minors and then they drive drunk and kill someone. While i distrust the politicians and what they may try, it is borderline crazy to speak as if the father is blameless here.

[@kevinaraujo2641]

Mother called the school like 30 min before the first shots.. why wasn't school locked down immediately??? Nothing would've happened..... SMFH

[@stevewagner2552]

If an parent provides alcohol to a minor, and they drive drunk and kill someone who is held liable? Yet if a parent provides a gun to an unstable minor and does not proper secure the weapon, who is liable? It seems as if most of these school shootings were done by unstable youth and were known to have issues, but these issues got looked over with nothing being done about them. With that said why aren't the agencies that did nothing held responsible also?

[@Stevarooni]

The Crumblies seemed a lot less reasonable than a man who bought an AR "for" his kid after he was told by the FBI that his son was making threats.

[@jerrythomas463]

I thought there had to be “malice of Forethought “ to be tried with violent crimes?

[@Lutz101]

The father Illegally gave a child a gun who had expressed homicidal desires and then murdered people.

[@kennethwalton5582]

Actually, they’re charging parents for their own crimes in relation to their children actions, which were also criminal. This is definitely appropriate. We can’t sit back and say, hey, I have the right to my guns and I’m also not responsible for anything that my child does with my guns, even as I’m negligent of not keeping my guns secure. As gun owners, we MUST take responsibility for what we do.

[@MikeMorrison-lw4gz]

The person who provides a gun to an underage person, whether a parent or the head of a gang, should be charged with providing an illegal gun. If the child steals the gun then he or she is responsible

[@Chris-pz4mb]

I'm a bit conflicted on this one. On one hand a 14 year old should absolutely understand that gunning down people for no reason is wrong. What he did should be on him and no one else. One the other hand, dad had to know his son wasn't right and never should have made the weapon available to his son but at the same time dad didn't pull the trigger. Why aren't the school officials being charged since the mother of the suspect called the school to warn them and they did nothing. Why isn't mom being charged since she also allowed her deranged son to have a rifle? Lastly, the fact that federal law enforcement knew about this kid, knew he made credible threats and didn't do jack shit both infuriates me and no small part of the blame should be placed squarely on their shoulders as well because at the end of the day their negligent disregard for the safety of everyone at that school makes them culpable.

[@AstanaxKnight]

My own dad has been starting up the rumor mill that I was afraid of my 9 year old son, but bought him a gun anyway. First, I would never buy a gun for my underage son because it is illegal. Second, they are guns that I legally own that he is not allowed to touch, let alone shoot without me being present. Third, I was not scared of him. I punished my son for doing wrong, and the privilege of shooting that new antique gun with my supervision was taken away from him until he corrected his behavior.

[@jamesmitchell6619]

Both my sons guns are kept in my room More importantly my boys aren't insane

[@RealRandomReview]

Whenever someone uses the weapon of war statement they should be questioned about civilian ownership of military style pump action and bolt action weapons.